Post artists who have significantly changed their art style over time
Manga Artists and Their Stylistic Progression
Carson Green
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Gabriel Sanchez
Easton Nguyen
takei(shaman king) is also one but I dont have a progression chart.. his art has become more mechanical
Leo Harris
Camden Parker
Don't have a comparative pic, I like early Naruto art way more than the Shippuden once, it had more personality imo
Anthony Lewis
fights have much less impact as Kishi's art style changes
Eli Moore
Old Kubo was better.
Matthew Lewis
Jacob Reed
He started drawing because he was inspired by Hirohiko Araki, and in time he managed to surpass his idol.
Juan Rivera
but clearly it looks like he had his own style even if he was inspired by araki.
Lucas Gutierrez
I love these threads
also thread predictions
>someone would post Murata. well deserved that guys a legend
>the thread will flip at some point into "artistic degradation" and style regression
>there would be some trad vs digital talk
>soul vs soulless talk
>someone would post something really obscure
>some kid would post some awful shonen artist that stagnates for years and go full retard for anyone who points out there's no much improvement.
>someone will post toriyama, people will ask what happened. he's retired, that's all that happened
>someone will post something from a manga that had an anime this or last year.
Gabriel Cox
Miura evolution of Guts across the years.
This is from 4 years ago though, so it's missing the last 10-ish chapters of Berserk.
Julian Howard
Just post some progression you like.
And learn to ignore shit you don't.
Blake Bell
>inb4 soul/soulless fags show up
Luis Brown
He's not copying, no, but Kaz said he fell in love with Araki's work, and wanted to emulate it. Even though it's all-Kaz, Araki's influence should be recognized, even if Araki's gone full-homo in his old age.
Easton Turner
I hate seeing this pic becaue it always makes me realize how rough its been for him.
Easton Baker
where my pogeymanz at
Kevin Adams
The picture of Vol. 24 Guts looking behind reminds me of Nero from DMC 5
Jordan Butler
the thread started good, why are you fags trying to derail it?
Matthew Brown
Logan Adams
Isayama has progressed quite a bit, though I think it had something to do with not having editors in the past and doing it all by himself.
Julian Phillips
I love these threads, seeing how much some authors improve is fascinating
Evan Wilson
Paru's improvement was extremely sharp and fast from what i remember.
The manga lost some uniqueness of its early panelling though.
Jayden Taylor
Liam Kelly
And most recently.
Oliver Harris
Ain't complaining
That's why I said I love these threads.
Couldn't skip out on making myself a bingo though.
Wyatt Lee
this guy is the father of her
Jason Watson
That's some beautiful progression.
Jackson Davis
man early belldandy was ugly
second belldandy and on where gud
Nathaniel Nelson
Being honest, I don't like the third evolution. Everything became weird and fat.
>but fairy tail and hiro mashima is shit
Yeah, but his art changed a lot over the years, so it is worth to quote.
Brody Sanders
second panel seems the best.
Lucas Morales
Early Naruto had so much weight and solidness to the movement, fuck
Levi Nguyen
You can say that again.
Brayden Williams
is this series worth picking up? ive seen a few threads here about it.
Hunter Moore
>Characters look absolutely the same.
>Only difference is the background made by assistance
Yeah im glad he is hiring competent assistance, Togashits drawings still look awful and blank
Christian Collins
Be quiet, pet.
Andrew Gray
Araki is one of the few artists I've seen improve over long periods of time instead of just plateauing.
Michael Ross
>comparison shot
>two completely different expressions
Sigh
Aaron Flores
>art gets better
>then it gets worse
Sebastian Allen
I think I prefer the way her earlier art looked. It was rougher and felt like it reflected the more feral and animalistic themes of the manga.
Wyatt Reed
In the most recent chapters outside elf land, and inside casca's dream it's gotten back to normal
Noah Rivera
>entirely different facial and head shapes
>i-it's expressions
Brody Nelson
It also had way more charm
Christian Robinson
It doesn't make for a good comparison regardless my guy
Connor Mitchell
The fuck are you talking about, right is still soulless digital shit.
Nolan Cox
Those Manben videos by Urasawa show lots of art progression of various Manga artists. I was surprised to see what Ryoichi Ikegami's pre Spider-Man art looked like, especially compared to his modern hyper realism stuff.
Sebastian Thomas
>Released July 2010
>ZUN and Azmaya somehow kept this going for 10 years
Really not what I expect from him.
Ryan Howard
Yeah it is. It is a bit of a wild ride and best read with minimal spoilers
David Harris
It is worth?
Jeremiah Stewart
Kevin Ortiz
Ice Hockey Club Volume 2 and SZS Chapter 295.
Mason Sanders
Man, i wonder what naruto would have been like if it was wizards instead of ninjas as originally planned.
Gabriel Flores
Based
Cringe
Josiah Gomez
Camden Stewart
>went from having his own artstyle to just copying One Piece
It's a real shame
Oliver Ross
>chapter 4
jesus christ, 73 is still shit but that's horrendous. i knew kids in 6th grade that could draw better.
Ryan Stewart
Isaiah Garcia
Tosh has been pretty consistent.
Camden Cruz
Again fucking doodles in a pice of art. It's like he scribbles a few lines and try to let them look humanoid, throws them at the face of the assistant and says "Put that into the panel you made for hours I go play dragon quest"
Benjamin King
wow if only kishi knew how bad it would get. early shit has so much promise
Brayden Rivera
David Allen
i must have pure garbage taste because i enjoy both parts artistically
Dominic Long
wow this series has no consistency
Joshua Gomez
You were commanded to be quiet. Don't make your master repeat himself, pet.
Gabriel Powell
Just note that these limited comparisons are misrepresentative when it comes to HxH. Togashi intentionally doesn't keep character models consistent from page to page and shifts faces in a wide variety of ways depending on the goals of the panel. For example pic related from the most recent Hisoka chapters look closest to the 3rd Hunter Exam example in your pic and nothing like the latest example.
Matthew Allen
stupid sexy no clown makeup hisoka
Ian Cooper
is vol 13 peak androgynous kurapika
Isaac Gonzalez
wow 2nd and 3rd to last has so much more character than last
Jayden Torres
Depends on how much you can deal with the fact that it's never going to be finished and get out of hiatus.
It's one of the very best selling SJ manga for many reasons, but it's hard to deal with the fact that Hagi is never going to end it.
Also, it's pretty much the manga that inspired all the comedy battle shonen like Gintama, so if you like some fantasy/ecchi DBZ mixed with Rance and the author taking the piss of pop culture of the time including other mangaka, it's very well worth a read.
And Dark Schneider is such a massive chad it might spoil your taste about 99% of MCs around, bear in mind this is a series that has official porn sidebooks made by the author, which are also absolutely canon.
Luke Wood
God Erina is a godness.
Joseph Johnson
wans't there talk of it turning into a LN?
Lucas Hughes
Pic related is. From the volume 1 extras.
Daniel Perez
Cope
James Anderson
Second has the one piece vibe.
Third is Mashima going full fanservice and it's shows on all of his characters even males.
Elijah White
Togashi is a hack, got it
Jose Peterson
I know its kind of a meme term, but I think that late Naruto art looks kinda soulless
Joshua Young
Yeah, but outside of the Gara LN that came out four years ago or so, nothing else came out of it so far.
Hagi's also being busy working for mobage, games and anime so that might be the reason.
Camden Parker
Yet another thread is ruined by huntards.
Fucking hell i hope they dissapear
Levi Fisher
Kneel at mine illustrious feet, pet. Your master has no more time for your jejune and contumacious antics. KNEEL.
Lincoln Kelly
Quite the opposite, his grasp on expressionism and stylistic range is at the absolute height of the medium. Togashi’s range in style really allows him to shift tone and transition between genres more seamlessly than any other mangaka.
James Martinez
oof
John Turner
This. Togashi is a master of fundamentals, paneling and creating memorable page composition. The man is a genius who can set up his scenes from interesting pov angles that are able to put in contrast what each scene is exactly trying to portray.
Carson Hughes
weird how much I like the show and can't find anything to complain about even if I stopped watching when the dragon showed up. I guess hearing non-canon is a big turn off
Adam Nguyen
Ishida's heavily improved his art throughout the series. Too bad the writing went to shit because he was burnt out and couldn't handle the weekly schedule.
Robert Rodriguez
Just ignore and stop giving them attention
Jayden Lopez
What a bunch of crap
Daniel Morris
Non-canon? Right's from Volume 16 released last year. It's Rui's work.
Levi Brown
>because he was burnt out and couldn't handle the weekly schedule.
no sympathy from me, unless he got burnt out AFTER starting part 2 then I guess its ok but if he was burnt at the end of part 1 he should have take a break.
I dont read LNs im talking about the anime I am in the part when the dragon with a bow appears
Dylan Long
Cringe
Caleb Powell
Togashi is a Master at utilizing paneling, composition, page-flip and varying art styles for pacing, emphasis, and tone-shifts. His art style is extremely subtle and flows well into his top tier paneling and composition.
Jaxson Thompson
First 3 rows wouldnt even be accepted in /beg/
Great stuff after that though, gives me hope
Aaron Johnson
Did your superior master ask for your input, PET?
Parker Brown
>It's crap
>Cringe
Is this as deep as brainlet arguments go?
Christopher Morris
it's pretty obvious from reading that he started getting burnt out around the second half of :re
Kayden Wright
Beautiful page. Palm’s positioning here and the way her cheeks are drawn remind me of Da Vinci’s sketches.
Mason White
he could have put it on hiatus at the time ishida was riding the gravy train so im pretty sure he had that pull to at least take a month break
Samuel Perry
>no sympathy from me, unless he got burnt out AFTER starting part 2 then I guess its ok but if he was burnt at the end of part 1 he should have take a break.
Regarding taking breaks, this is what he wrote in his afterword
>I felt that if I took a break I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to draw again, so I refused to give myself a break.
Honestly, if he stopped working on so much other shit alongside TG's serialization, who knows how much better the writing could've been. Now it remains a wasted potential and I can only hope he goes with more preparation into his next work.
Josiah Brown
Seething
Samuel Long
This thread went to shit fast
Jonathan Price
she cute
Thomas Parker
who's to blame for this?
Liam Richardson
Because people still, after all this time, reply to the hunterfags.
Xavier Brooks
he honestly should have done those extras after except the omakes since they actually built character but those extra drawings and calendars should have waited. blame his editor and peers no one told him to pace himself.
Noah Cruz
Someone should make one for Kaguya-sama
Evan Brown
Luke Green
If there is one thing I dislike about Araki's modern style is that many characters have the same face. Aside from that, I love it.
Carter Moore
Which Gokek is your favorite?
Anthony Adams
How can Togashi draw 900,000 faces when most mangaka can only draw a few at most?
Nathaniel Lopez
89
round eyes > sharp eyes
Dylan Allen
It's easy to draw many different faces when you don't even try having your characters remain in model in the same page.
Levi Walker
Tits version, just made.
Brayden King
>cherrypicking
pathetic
Cooper Adams
Man, if it only were those two things. That fucker also wrote/drew a hunded pages long storyboard for root a, and also did tons of illustrations specifically for the ED song. Then he started working on that psp game, where he drew a 550 pages long scenario book all by himself together with new illustrations. Further, he also drew tons of illustrations for zakki 2 (art book) and now a short while ago, we've been told that he has also been working on the new switch game for the past 3 years. All the while working on :RE. He can only blame himself for not prioritizing his main work, it's a shame really.
Lincoln Perry
Togashi is a true Master.
Jackson Flores
>posting Axed manga
Nathaniel Cox
Why is the coloured stuff such trash? Everything up to and including '95 looks good.
Jaxon Hughes
I am pretty sure that it is either someone talking to himself or two hunterfags with one falseflaging
Eli Carter
> source: my ass
Michael Ward
>Post artists who have significantly changed their art style over time
stop being a cancerous faggot and contribute to the thread retard
Daniel Perry
Why would he dumb down his art to appease brainlets like you who have read less than 5 manga?
Carter Bell
The current HxH thread has 100 IPs. HxH has one of the biggest fandoms here.
Alexander Campbell
Kubo could be picasso-tier (which he obviously never will be), but I still wouldn't take him seriously, just because of the fact his series got axed.
Gabriel Morgan
Wonderful page. Togashi is incredible at conveying tone with his artstyle even when completely freehanding.
Bentley Davis
kek at that pitou face
Noah Hall
...
Asher Butler
Imagine getting axed and replaced by MHA. He's gone bald now and makes his living drawing one shots for gatcha games.
Michael Russell
Imagine being in permanent hiatus and being replaced by chainsaw man
Grayson Parker
Imagine making the same desperate shitposts about chinese cartoons every day
Brody Rivera
Bleachfags SEETHING
Jose Rogers
HxH sells 1.000.000 per volume, Chainsaw sells 20-30k.
Bentley Roberts
why is one piece so popular? i don't get it. it seems like an absolute shitfest of nonsense and le random chaos.
can some please explain to me, in small words, the allure of one piece?
Camden Powell
You can sell if you dont release volumes
Aiden Sanders
Correct, Bleach got the axe so it will NEVER release another volume again.
Julian Rogers
>120000000
It doesnt need to.
Henry Allen
Oh also
>source: my ass
Xavier Thomas
>HxH
75 million copies/36 volumes that's 2.05 million copies per volume on average
>Bleach
120 million copies/74 volumes that's 1.62 million copies per volume on average
COPE with the state of your axed irrelevant manga.
Nicholas Perez
i fucking hate hxh falseflaggers and newfags replying to them, you derail every single thread
Christian Sullivan
it's just one guy responding to himself
Hudson James
>not a new IP
Seething Bleachturd can't cope with facts and numbers.
Noah Watson
It's one of the biggest mysteries in manga history. It just sells in Japan, though. Outside of Japan, it only has 70M total sales.
Connor Richardson
>3 years head start and 2 adaptations
>not even 100M sales
Pathetic
Aiden Bailey
How the fuck do you even counter this argument? You hunterchads have no mercy. Damn.
Caleb Morgan
With every new volume HxH average goes down.
Robert Thompson
>you can post ONLY ONCE per thread
OBSESSED
Jose Russell
>How the fuck do you even counter this argument?
Say ONE PIECE and "Hunterchads" starts to cope.
Dylan Wood
Anthony Garcia
I´ll give you a better one
>slam dunk
Jace Green
False:
HxH 28 sold 1,011,766 in 2011
HxH 29 sold 1,043,782 in 2011
HxH 30 sold 1,090,309 in 2012
HxH 31 sold 1,193,383 in 2013
HxH 32 sold 1,186,245 in 2013
HxH 33 sold 1,272,692 in 2016
HxH 34 sold 1,258,337 in 2017
HxH 35 sold 1.090.958 in 2018
>HxH 28 sold 1,011,766 in 2011
This was the build up phase, just like:
>HxH 35 sold 1.090.958 in 2018
Is aslo the build up phase.
Ian Gray
You're not serious are you? The left actually looks better because there's overall harmony. The right has so much jarring between the characters and the background it breaks reader immersion on first glance.
This is frustrating to see because all that meticulous labour invested into background ended up deducting marks from the final product. That effort could've been saved for something else.
Brandon Cook
Slam Dunk is irrelevant and forgotten, tho
Julian Ortiz
I really liked the 3rd uniform era, it was a mix of early goth vibe with appropriate anatomy, without the "stiffness" of the beginning.
But now, everyone is just a shining example of ikemen and pandering towards the main public of this manga: fujoshis.
It's really sad.
Jonathan Kelly
>HxH 34 sold 1,258,337 in 2017
>HxH 35 sold 1.090.958 in 2018
Oh no no no no no
Owen Richardson
>coping
Nolan Peterson
>that's 2.05 million copies per volume on average
>sells around 1m
It goes down just accept it
Jordan Gutierrez
>this thread
We can't stop winning, bros.
Noah Adams
>fogotten
Not in nipland when it had it reprint it scored in top 5 of the month
Jaxon Mitchell
>cool art thread digresses into a sales war
i love nu-Yea Forums
Jace Smith
The trend is that build up volumes sell 1M and climax volumes (34 was Hisoka vs Chrollo) sell 1.2M. The average is always 1M. 200k drop is nothing compared to One Piece that has lost 2M, MHA that has lost 300K and HQ that has lost 500k
Caleb Stewart
>subhuman brainlet doesnt know how average per volume is calculated
Matthew Russell
>consistent 1M per volume without an anime airing, with the manga on hiatus most of the year and without any artificial hype
Is it even possible to be more CHAD than this? Holy fucking based
Matthew Sullivan
Is that from DeviantArt?
God I hope so.
Ethan Allen
Yes, be Takehiko Inoue
Jace Reed
Joseph Evans
I'm sure this will eventually be updated once the hiatus' stop
Brody Reyes
last proper adventure series left it has no competition and fills a large need
Jayden Morales
left is better, i wish i was joking
Ethan Flores
Jordan Reyes
That's actually more praise for Isayama because there's flow and clarity in his scenes even when his penmanship remains lacking.
Contrast that with trying to read Alex Ross's panels, for example
Henry Baker
Elijah Allen
>>Every female character became hippy with thicc thighs
Mashima is a gentleman whose taste became more sophisticated, like fine wine.
Jack Garcia
It's like how you can recognize Shinpachi just by seeing his glasses. You don't even need the rest of the body.
Parker Hernandez
I can understand if you do. Kishimoto's panel and line work began to shift their focus in later Naruto - he began to construct more crisp lines depicting complicated jutsus. You may approve of this if you enjoy artists like Oh Great, since that's what he does. I find it detrimental because the character poses lost their quirkiness and actions less dynamic.
I wish I can personally tell him how much I miss his old line art style
Julian Peterson
One Piece is a genre manga/anime. I already addressed these points before but I didn't save my posts to prevent copypasting. I don't feel like writing paragraphs again so I'm gonna keep this short.
One Piece complexity is not on the level of plot like in HxH, it's on the level of worldbuilding/lore, visible if you analyse the whole manga in the macro scale. In terms of plot it's a simple genre manga. The best analogy for it is LOTR where the fellowship travels kingdom to kingdom, explores local issues and politics experiences some personal drama, has some adventure and moves on. There are two appeals to both works, the "action" which is what happens here and now and the "exploration" which is witnessing the past and the world as it is. The latter appeal comes from exploring the well crafted world full of metaphors and parallels to the real one which gives the story depth and wisdom. But just like LOTR you have to find the symbols (which can be various degrees of hidden) and metaphors before you can even begin the analysis.
Hudson Carter
going by the stuff posted in this thread, which artist has improved the most?
Henry Ward
>looks exactly the same
Caleb Bailey
god you're a faggot.
Cameron Gutierrez
Looks like his style got a bit simpler to be able to push out more panels.
Noah Cox
black clover but worse
Kayden Garcia
Sebastian Russell
I'm not even a huntard but is that seriously the best you've got?
James Morris
God Kumeta just keeps getting better and better too. His compositions and designs are so good.
Logan Evans
t. huntard
Joseph Evans
88 is best dubs confirm. 89 is also great.
Joseph Wilson
That 4th one looks like that Junji Ito chapter
Nolan Hernandez
2005 is probably my favorite Kubo era
Ryder Howard
I really like how some artists progress over time and others keep their style consistent.
Ryan Martinez
It's like the modern art of anime.
Adrian Robinson
Weak bait
Gavin Bennett
Luis Wilson
500 hours in ms paint
Gavin White
can this even be called drawing
Liam Gomez
someone post a nihei comparison
Carson Campbell
I like how "weighty" this feels
Ryder Diaz
Is this real?
Isaac Ward
>early part 4 vs late part 4
what the actual fuck happened
Zachary Parker
Like that is possible.
Levi Powell
Even huntards wont defend this.
Ayden Thompson
>being this blind
Henry Gomez
>le reddit-tier strawman
Christian Ward
Isayama
Adrian Myers
no but black clover copied the best parts of naruto and skipped the bullshit so it'd be better on account of coming after
Christian Myers
Cope harder huntard.
Nathaniel Ross
Mason Sanders
OGUREITO
Daniel Howard
I just want to say that Togashi got worse, this looks better than anything in HxH
Jose Perry
Lol, even huntards are better than you.
Julian Morgan
Araki started doing his own thing rather than stick to the Fist of the North Star look.
Noah Green
I hate how much of a mess D.gray-man has become, doesn't help basically every chapter released the last few years has a different art style
Charles Price
I'd post Murata but I don't know what images to use for comparison
Jacob Martinez
They look the exact same
Charles Turner
t. huntard
Liam Price
Ubizo years ago
Carson Harris
I didn't realize this was initially a one shot
Camden Green
Ubizo now. I wish someone made chart how his art progressed during his manga.
Aiden Jackson
can't improve on perfection
Isaiah Flores
>evolution of anime max stirner
the resemblance is uncanny and I can never get over how similar they look.
Benjamin Hall
> not being a fan of HxH
wew lad.
David King
Angel Taylor
t. untermensch
Wyatt Bennett
makes me proud considering hxh fans are responsible for threads like this
Josiah Murphy
>hunterfags screeching about themselves again
is it a fucking requirement to be a prissy 15 year old self-obsessed teenager to like the fucking series or something? why are you people so fucking sensitive.
Juan Long
I like how murata is able to capture saitama as a character so well. people dont give him enough credit for really nailing his cartoonish look while also making him fit with the rest of the redesigned cast.
Caleb Turner
>MHA that has lost 300K
That is false. MHA is still in its peak sales
Isaac Gray
Mine too
Kayden Hill
> links to a blatant bait thread
> the bait thread worked exactly as intended
> thinks that the posters are HxH fans
Justin Evans
I know that it embarrasses you to admit it but this is what characterizes your fanbase. Just take a look around and you'll clearly see that hxh is a shit stain on the fabric of Yea Forums.
Brayden Garcia
Status: REMINDED
Lucas Brown
stay mad
Jayden Foster
More like the evolution of Gut's chin
Easton Russell
father daughter duo?
Thomas Powell
i recognize all of one piece's faces besides 12 and 27
Asher Flores
Jaxson Hall
Did Illumi start balding or did he just start wearing his hair different after Yorkshin?
Ryder Anderson
based and non-spooked
Camden Ward
'94 thick neck goku
Evan Sanders
to be honest, murata hasn't improved at all since starting opm, it's just kind of stagnating even though the skill is still really high
Jaxson Ross
no each year they are a little w i d e r
Xavier Rodriguez
>the fucking oneshot looked better
Logan Allen
what a downgrade, character design wise
Jordan Gonzalez
How about a Eyeshield21 comparison
Wyatt Thomas
is Hunter x Hunter the OK KO of manga?
Jonathan Garcia
it's a good read
I thought it was gonna be like zootopia, then I realized fire punch is a more adequate comparison
Christopher Green
Katsura is such a mad lad.
Xavier Watson
the latest chapters of eyeshield are some of his best work characterwise. he's improved technically a lot since then but his character designs/features have suffered (though mostly that's one's fault, goofy designs dont always mix well with murata's realistic art)
Brandon Morales
Ethan Martinez
nigger you're crazy
Eli Bell
early saitama is so weird
Joseph Evans
I dropped Bastard pretty early on because of how dumb it was, holy shit
Ethan Garcia
how can you improve when you reached the sky's ceiling?
Liam Gonzalez
YYH > HxH
This is undeniable
Jack Clark
>And Dark Schneider is such a massive chad it might spoil your taste about 99% of MCs around
he's literally Inuyasha written by a man
Camden Foster
Vol 14 Guts the best
Lincoln Cooper
You do what Inoue did and learn to paint. It happened with a couple western comic book artists too, Bill Sienkiewicz for example.
Tyler Carter
Murata know how to paint though. Both Vol 4 and 16 are painted
Jayden Nelson
Brayden Barnes
I actually like the early art just as much. It has such a quaint, sketchy feel to it.
Jack White
How does someone become as much of an art chad as Murata?
Ryder Lopez
Right is way more aesthetic
Tyler Gonzalez
>1999
>it's 20 years old and we've had like fucking maybe 4 arcs since then
Lincoln Watson
No fucking respect for God himself in this thread, putrid.
Asher Hall
Be born kino
Jordan Moore
>he thinks Berserk is only 20 years old
user it started in 1989...
Jack Hill
wait why is this guy on the cover of 16? did they really run out of characters to put on volume covers at only 16?
Jace Ross
He was in Vol 16
Parker Hernandez
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
Daniel Brooks
It's very worth it, I'm really glad I found out about it.
I second the other user's recommendation, don't read spoilers.
Jace Cruz
Asher Martinez
I only started reading One Piece in the last couple months and I'm finally current.
I enjoyed it; overall, it's consistently decent (not amazing) but a lot of its arcs are really well put together and have a few transcendent high points that make them stick in readers' minds
David Green
>le random chaos
Have you literally NEVER read a single chapter of it?
Cameron Lopez
HxH fans are so delusional that if shit hit their face they probably think it's chocolate.
Sebastian Baker
The comedy and nakama feeling used to be nice.
Also the freaky fruit abilities utilised in different ways.
Isaiah James
Please stop discussing HxH, it's completely irrelevant.
Isaiah Price
Gakkou Gurashi is an actually good example of improvement.
Noah Anderson
Jaxon Murphy
Griffith has gone from very attractive beautiful man to looking like a man who wants to look like a woman and for it he has gone through some facial aesthetic operations, like silicone on the lips
Evan Hill
How so?
Owen Bennett
Well he did get reborn.
Joshua Sullivan
>Silicone
Not only Griffith, everyone is with sex doll lips with the recent style.
Maybe he's gone senile or he just don't care anymore.
Lincoln Gutierrez
Or maybe he's drawing what appeals to him because it's his manga and he can get away with it now that he's old and rich (?).
Ayden Gonzalez
At least it was some fun fetish stuff, like the rape horse.
Now, if it's a fetish, it's just way too shitty with his style.
Andrew Baker
She didn't seem that keen on drawing the characters in a non-chibi way though. I also think she made the character's faces primarily look less uncanny, too.
Nathan Long
how does "it's crap" say any less than
and ?
all that's being said is "togashi good". there are no examples or specifics to be found
Aaron Howard
The hair is too curly now too. It looked better before
Asher Price
Very early FT was very reminiscent of OP. Very late FT is something else entirely.
Ryan Robinson
No, that is not true.
Grayson Flores
Femanon spotted.
It's a swashbuckling adventure of misfits who kick reason to the curb, subvert authorities, and accomplish extraordinary acts of heroism through extraordinary displays of comaraderie. It's "How to Sell Stories to Young Boys: 101". It helps that Oda really is pretty good at what he does.
Hudson Hill
Togashi is just a little too smart for you, user. That's okay, you'll get there eventually. Start with the Greeks.
Charles Scott
He isn't you retard. Same surname.
Julian Wilson
At this point you can't tell the difference between fans and shitposters.
Kevin Russell
I'm surprised no one posted Captain Tsubasa
Charles Rogers
The earlier art in all of these looks better..
Blake Johnson
>handsome Griffith at the ball never again
David Rogers
>Huntard selfinserts as meruem and gives cringy "pet be quiet" orders
>CaNt YoU tHiNk Of SoMeThInG bEtTeR??
Blake Baker
Some of these early arts had huge heart on them. Why artists have the need to change it? just improve the pacing or structure
Connor James
(you)
Jeremiah Price
Hve to hand it to Takahashi, even if you're not into his card game. The guy can draw and his colouring is great.
Jaxson Diaz
Toriko, Chapter 1 vs Chapter 396
Jack Green
Fuck realism, I actually like the style of the top
Bentley Edwards
David Barnes
Until the ship to Japan arc (with the introduction of the Akuma level 3), I held this manga as the best. Oh boy, how wrong was I then....
Nathaniel Wilson
Yea, its like he changed the artstyle as the MC became a more open friendly guy, but then it bled out over all the chars even though its still an overly pretty dark and messed up world. The old art fit more. It just looks less detailed and too clean now.
Kayden Wilson
Hunter Sanders
He genuinely looks like he turns into a black man
Brayden Lee
Same.
Jason Walker
Why do all of them have the same face?
Hudson Martin
Soul Eater looked weird in the first chapters
Jordan Richardson
What is he doing?
Jack Scott
not him but 99% of all mangaka have a sameface syndrome
Isaiah Cox
whats up with dark continent were they all turned into kids or somthing
Benjamin Thompson
Feels good to be part of the 1%
Ayden Perez
Fate/stay night 西脇 だっと
Alexander Allen
>99% of all mangaka have a sameface syndrome
and Isayama's not one of them
Anthony Flores
reminder that Dobson is triggered by ONE.
Xavier Sanders
Tell me the lore
Wyatt Gomez
They all have the same face and they aren't expressive. All of their faces look cartoonish. Isayama is an amateur when it comes to drawing, that's the main reason why he got rejected by Jump
Jacob Martin
Lol what. Basically all Jamp mangakas have a sameface problem. Isayama's art is shitty but not a sameface.
Camden Allen
Asano Inio Art Progression
Eli Peterson
Humanity received an unpleasant update..
Josiah Anderson
Everyone in the bottom left panel has sameface tho
Jayden Thomas
Araki’s actually curbed the homo shit in Part 8, there’s surprisingly a ton of hetero stuff for once. He drew tits for once too.
Daniel Adams
face blindness is linked with autism you know
Jace Watson
There was no need to tell me. I knew you were autistic the moment you started posting SnK.
Carson Green
lol I think you are overthinking it.
Oda knows its audience and draws the biggest tits on any shounen.
Don't even compare OP to LotR please
Colton Brown
His attitude helps with that. Apparently as he got close to the end of Stone Ocean he felt like his writing and art were at their peak and like he couldn’t possibly improve any more, and he felt completely satisfied with one of his mangas for once. He was terrified of the thought that he’d hit his peak and that it actually felt ok, because there was still so much he wanted to draw and if he can’t get better it’s not as enjoyable anymore. So he had the idea to ‘go back to the beginning’ and decided Part 7 would be a reboot (because he felt Stone Ocean was a perfect ending but still wanted to draw more JoJo) and he’d shift to a monthly seinen magazine since he’d peaked with the weekly shonen format. Double size pages, four times as much time to produce a chapter, no limit on how long it had to be and going back to basics and trying to do everything again but better let him break past what he considered his peak and keep climbing higher, which he’s still doing to this day.
Carson Wilson
That fagget is getting better and better hhhnnnngg
Jason Allen
early VA and late SBR are king
Adam Davis
Jaxson Kelly
Charles Thompson
Akira Hiramoto 1
Leo Price
Akira Hiramoto 2. Clearly he sold his soul to the devil to allow this to happen.
Julian Garcia
>he's literally Inuyasha written by a man
You don't know what you're talking about.
Jace Allen
She looks like she has down syndome in the early style.
Chase Perry
Oh ye of little taste.
Levi Bailey
he became who he loved
Nathaniel Perry
So more Me and the Devil Blues when you stupid hack?
Benjamin Moore
I mean, you can avoid sameface if you avoid consistency altogether I guess
Luke Collins
This thread makes me feel like I should start drawing, but I'm 26. Is there even any point in starting anymore?
Grayson Ramirez
inb4 Casca is Donovan's daughter
Jason Foster
what's the point? how many artists can make a living off of it by your estimates?
even if you get good you won't earn as much as someone who spent that time learning a trade
Camden Lee
in a review I can't find on his twitter, his website, or archived footage dobson claimed he watched five episodes of one punch man and stopped watching because he claimed it was too violent, he was probably upset that mosquito girl died. He then kept trying to goad people into responding negatively so he could claim to have been harassed over not liking it, and then to the twitter of one of the women he orbits around who said they were watching one punch and warned her that it was violent and that he was harassed over not liking it. this concluded by dob comparing himself to one.
Nicholas Edwards
I'm not looking to make money off of it, I have a job that I went to school for. I just want to be able to make my own porn
Ayden Powell
>drawing as a hobby
literally never gonna make it unless your livelihood depends on it
go browse deviantart to see others who wanted to draw their own porn and understand that it's always cheaper to pay an actual artist instead
Bentley Sanders
My mom and dad are really good at it though, can't I just inherit their skills?
This is my current level btw
Lincoln Wilson
>can't I just inherit their skills?
this isn't pokemon, of course you can't
Landon Bailey
I'm 29 and just finished drawing a moth lady. I enjoy it. Wish I had a way to uplaod online though, to get tips on the **** I struggle with. Give it a go, why not.
Rather than think ''why start'' think ''why not'', you ain't getting younger.
Nolan Evans
the real progression here is seeing Hamada's looney setups get more and more complicated for the sake of proper working posture
Daniel Flores
>I don't want to end up like Togashi.png
Landon Phillips
Complete lack of focus on the bottom image, the fuck do you need white outlines on generic trees for?
Ryan Lopez
>murata
Yikes
James Rivera
Gavin Sullivan
>drawing a moth lady
Nice taste.
Juan Turner
Wasn't the MC magically castrated so he would not hit that?
Isaac Murphy
What's the point of that raised chair?
Dominic Price
A god amongst men
Isaac Hernandez
Blake Nguyen
Wyatt Gray
>mah soooul
Kys brainlet
Adam Hernandez
>start with the Greeks
ask me how i know you've not done as much, nor read any philosophy in your miserable, shounen-loving life
Jordan James
>Leorio's first design was literally just Max Stirner
kek, based Togashi
Zachary Lopez
Oh my god you're retarded
Jordan Parker
soul eater manga has one of the most drastic changes in art style I've ever seen
Evan Hall
The potential for memes is great enough to be worth it
Connor Harris
A classic.
Oliver Brown
Kokou no Hito is one of my all time favorites. In no small part thanks to the artwork.
Jaxon Butler
Kawada
Ch 228 on the left vs ch 43 on the right.
Thomas Gray
Source or gtfo
Aaron Foster
which version of OPM should I read
Cooper Scott
Ian Torres
Read Murata's version until you're caught up, then the webcomic to move on.
Christian Nelson
none of them because the wait for new chapters is unbearable
James Barnes
who is she?
Dylan Jenkins
Easton Phillips
bottom one hurts my eyes. and the guiding lines in the background are gone.
Jaxon Lewis
Yeah, he could actually make more chapters.
Evan Foster
Togashi's art style consistently changes between volumes. Kurapika looked like this in the same volume if I recall
Isaac Price
Main girl from Hanebado named Ayano. Badminton manga, got an anime.
youtu.be
Brayden Adams
>this is from 4 years ago though, so it's missing the last 10-ish chapters of Berserk
When you put it like that, holy shit Berserk readers have gotten cucked so hard
Nathan Gray
12 is Viola and I'm not sure about 27, but I think it may be Kaya.
Jordan Jackson
>can't I just inherit their skills?
You can't inherit anything
No one is born with talent
Only hard work exist
Jose Perez
user...
Logan Collins
kubo draws such fucking handsome dudes
Brayden King
When did he draw the right one? I hadn't seen it before.
Caleb Gray
Exactly.
Jace Myers
unironically better before
Christian Reyes
Why does the look of jojo protagonists get progressively gayer
Blake Allen
Because Araki's artsyle improved with time.
William Hall
>no argument
dumb herokek
Jaxon Cooper
Araki thought Kenshiro was no longer cool.
Ethan Moore
The characters actually got manlier as time went on
Elijah Parker
Michael Turner
I like that they actually like ugly stupid kids.
Christopher Scott
There's never been anything like it and there probably never will. Give it a try.
Ethan Cooper
It leaves a stronger impression than 90% of manga and anime on the market.
Easton Baker
>terrible at remembering things
>legit learning disability
>still immediately recognize a secondary character from a manga i read like 7 years ago
Weird which things that sticks with you.
Easton Stewart
That's some beautiful progression.
Adam Campbell
honestly prefer 2nd one
has way more charm to it
Blake Reed
Hunterfag (yes, singular) isn't even hiding his pleb status anymore
Mason Morris
>I* can't stop winning
Stop pretending there's more than one of you
Andrew White
It's one of the extra pages on the final chapter of the series
Wyatt Carter
seethe harder
Owen Myers
Bump
Juan Sanders
Cope
Josiah Turner
this was at his 7yo, right?
Robert Flores
Volumes 8-10 are the best. He's got a sort of Monkey Punch character face in those and it helps keep him distinct. Volume 33 is the worst, seriously what the fuck happened to his chin and jaw?
Lincoln Cooper
>Giorno with visible forehead
god no, his hair looks like a damn flat top with a rat tail.
Oliver Collins
I can't see the whole post. I need a wider monitor.
Daniel Barnes
No, it won't be.
Jordan Rivera
Practice until your fingers bleed, then bandage them up and keep practicing. The man's work ethic must be insane.
Parker Gomez
And now it looks like shit.
Brody James
>improved
Fuck no.
Jaxson Diaz
Adrian Mitchell
>artists who have significantly changed their art style over time
Sure thing
Isaiah Campbell
Why has Ken Akamatsu's art not changed since Love Hina?
Jordan James
ONE came a long way from scribbles to creating kino with it.
Ryder Fisher
masami "sake" kurumada
Camden Martin
I've reread Berserk recently and wanna know what astounded me?
MIURA DIDN'T GET BETTER AT ALL!
He didn't get better in 30 years!
How is this even possible?
Austin Smith
13
Asher Cruz
>using less and less screen tone
That's called getting cheap and commercial.
He just started mass producing that shit efficiently instead of putting actual effort into it or paying his assistants.
Evan Gutierrez
That's no progression.
The first one was actually drawn with pencils and marker, the later one is CG.
Jaxson Jackson
it's called.
"stop hiding mistakes with colors" too.
Thomas Hill
Middle one best.
Jaxson Stewart
>from badass to gay
Which is why I never picked up this show/manga.
Bentley Wilson
The power of hiatus.
Adrian Morris
Nah, he's very androgynous at the start 2bh.
Brody Green
Middle and second to last are the best.
Dominic Reyes
Big improvement. Though both a qt.
Lincoln Nguyen
How does your art style change if you never fucking draw?!
Josiah Kelly
Perfect now.
Sebastian Jones
by forget how to draw because you don't do it.
Ryan Wright
>dat feel when nihei learned how to draw attractive character for his least popular work because daughter made fun of his earlier ones
KNIGHTS KNIGHTS KNIGHTS
Landon Campbell
Kinda hard to improve when you started at god-tier level, though.
Jayden Cruz
I admit it wouldn't be easy, but 30 years...
another matter is consistency of style, of course:
Miura is incredibly consistent, but he sacrificed his improvement potential.
I'm not too critical of his epic spreads and such anyway, but his QUALITY is very much the same still. The basic panels still are basic as before.
Angel Cruz
lmao what is this deviantart shit
Noah Smith
user, you might be retarded
Josiah Taylor
20-24 a best
Jonathan Price
>The basic panels still are basic as before.
I think that's just the paneling he wants for Berserk. Check out his Gigantomachia if you haven't already. It's a lot more dynamic.
Jace Kelly
>Gives Sidonia a shitty, rushed ending because his family were too stupid to understand it and his daughter asked him when he was going to make a good manga, like Shingeki no Kyojin
I will never not be mad.
Juan Brooks
Murata was still building the new foundation for OPM during the first few volumes. You can see that he played with lots of effects and character features until he found the designs that clicked.
But yeah, Murata has always been consistently high-tier since Eyeshield and doesn't seem to have sloped downward once in his career of illustrating. It's quite impressive. I think it's because he probably still takes classes.
Togashi has to be the most disappointing, going from Miura-level work in YYH to very simplified forms and designs in HxH. Miura himself remains a mystery. It's like he just got tired of drawing and is now looking for shortcuts, but oddly enough he still wants it to be high quality, but it looks 'off'.
Julian Rivera
>going from Miura-level work in YYH
I wouldnt go that far.
Isaac Roberts
Vinland Saga is one of the more radical examples, but came more down to manga not being on weekly schedule like it used to.
Cooper Thomas
That doesnt even look like the same character.
Elijah Morales
Someone post sui ishida's declining art in tg and tg re
Landon Evans
Plebs who have only read 5 manga like you shitpost because you are unfamiliar with advanced composition, this doesn't make Togashi a bad artist.
Now, let me dissect, both the art and storytelling of this very panel from chapter 352 page 19, to demonstrate why Togashi is seen as one of the best artists in the industry.
>A. The general clutter of the panel and floaty-ness of the character art shows how chaotic the setpiece is, and how Hisoka's mind is narrowing down to focus solely on Chrollo's devious tactics. As if time was slowing down for this train-of-thought.
>B. The white space behind Hisoka's head is used to show how empty of other subjects besides this battle his mind is. Narrowing down to the basics of the fight.
>C. We are then brought back to Hisoka's face, which expresses a mixture of smug surprise, and devilish determination. And swirling in front of him and as well as (seemingly) to his side is a menacing smog. Which has typically been used to communicate blood-lust in this manga.
There is much more into the art of drawing than having detailed realistic figures, fucking retard knows nothing about paneling and composition. Suck Osamu Tezuka's rotten, worm-dwelled, dead dick.
Nicholas Kelly
You're right, it's better. And so is Level E + HxH.
Cooper Barnes
>Gigantomachia
hold on, bakayaro. you're telling me miura has a new manga?
Hunter Nelson
I read it and enjoyed it very much.
Good argument actually...
Gigantomachia showed his growth.
It's pretty short, but yeah, he made it as a side project some years ago.
Henry Butler
What's he doing working on things that aren't Berserk?
Adrian Thompson
>plebs ... like you (assumption) [I-know-better]
>[I-like-the-sound-of-my-own-voice], [I-like-the-taste-of-my-own-cum], {let-me-tell-you-why}
>[broad worthless statement] {extreme comparison}, (insult)
Your composition sucks, user. You should see an editor about helping you draft you properly draft your story board.
Easton Jackson
Evan Gonzalez
I've never actually read the manga so this is new to me.
Hunter Bennett
I will never forget an user who summarised Jojo as follows
>JoJo is about a mangaka struggling with his latent homosexuality
I will never stop posting to remind you that if you like jojo, you are a latent or outright homosexual.
James Bailey
>U suck
Is this how deep brainlets arguments go?
Read it. Togashi's stylistic range is breathtaking.
Owen James
He is known for publishing sketches in JUMP and polishing them later for the volume releases. His sketches are really poor, and not really excusable.
Dylan Green
Absolutely seething
>S-SHUT UP!!!
So this is the intellectual peak of mumblers.
Andrew Long
>I will never stop posting to remind you that if you like jojo, you are a latent or outright homosexual.
That's actually you though. You're projecting, you see?
Ian Smith
Christopher Evans
I unironically like i've and never touched anything related to HxH
Jayden Brooks
ONE (2010) is still better than mines.
Samuel Hernandez
>malepatternbaldness.png
Julian Sanchez
>Togashi is a bad arti-
Jayden Brooks
Shame Erina Shrank because she's pretty much all but confirmed to be winning the Soumab owl
Kayden Ross
but he went from generic bland faces to actually finding his own unique style. the problem is, he's rather inconsistent and often times just drew lazy sketches with cluttered panels towards the end. it's why cochlea arc is seen as peak tg art see
Landon Bailey
>i knew kids in 6th grade that could draw better.
There are people that can draw photo realistic drawings and paintings, doesnt mean they make good manga. And I hate SNK.
Nicholas Jackson
Ian Lopez
Bald Sena on the left.
Blake Thompson
Brainlets/newfags tend to think realistic illustrations = good manga artist, that's why all of those "manga art" threads are nothing but overdrawn digital two page spreads.
It's also why normalfags think Berserk has good art when Miura can't compose a page to save his life.
Charles Green
Err, well, copying some dude from 500 years ago and doing a worse job of it.. is not exactly impressive, although those old masters sometimes spent years on a single piece.
Jose Torres
How a piece of art looks isn't the only way to judge how good it looks, retard.
Jeremiah Thomas
Not only is the lineart, shading and use of watercolors masterful but it's intertwined with the narrative beautifully.
Jacob Price
Nihei's old style would have been awesome for a manga set in the Alien universe.
Thomas Bell
Gabriel Cook
Are there any for Kazuhiro Fujita? I might make one myself it not, just to see how he's changed over the years.
Benjamin Foster
>how my painting looks doesn't matter
Excuse you?
Is this a joke?
I detest this word but, man, this is pretentious.
To such an extent that I will save the picture for future use in cringe threads.
How is copying stuff or including established symbolism remarkable anyway?
I'm not saying it's bad but you're acting like one of the people going nuts over Evangelions symbolism.