Who was wrong? Incest or society?

It was fine up until she wanted to have his child

That's when it felt wrong

That's only if its multiple generations, not after one

>Because the offspring has a big chance of coming out retarded.
As mentioned, that requires multiple generations. An middle-aged woman is more likely to give birth to a defective baby than your young sister and/or cousin.

i mean, as brother and sister/parents, what morals would you have to stop your children/grandchildren from doing the same. It will happen no matter what.

That's like saying you'd love girls just because your dad is married to a woman, yet here you are being a homo.

Typical bourgeoise scum, looking at the country and individual as an economic unit, how much money they can make as if that’s the only thing that matters. Neck yourself.

>b-but ur homo
faggot

>188357870

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Yeah all the retards on the planet are the result of inbreeding.

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This. Incestuous pairings don't happen often enough to give a shit about the ones that do. It's definitely no worse than allowing people with family histories of genetic conditions to breed.

Should I watch this anime with my sister?

>wojak

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Back to Yea Forums you go.

Incest doesnt = inbreeding retard also you're making a eugenics argument which isn't accepted in society. So you want to stop people that have chance of passing down their shitty conditions to their children from having children? Only young women can give birth? etc

Well, I mean...

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Selfcest > Twincest > Incest >>> soiling your blood with outsiders

"Society" has to have some rules which will inevitable be unfair for a minority to mantain some kind of order, if you are a part of the minority you can see that as society's fault and try to change it or whatever, and you wouldn't be wrong, but that doesn't mean "society" is being bad per se, that's the way it is

>muh inbreeding
>muh retarded children
It's like people never heard of artificial insemination. In the current year having healthy children with your sister or cousin is more than feasible, but society is too busy caring about building mosques than trying to improve the hospitals and any sanity-related facilities, in addition, since the feminism fad a lot of people wasted their life in retarded degrees like gender studies instead of studying actual medicine or biology, it's not an exaggeration to say that scientific progress has degraded by a magnitude in last 5 years, it's not completely halted yes but it doesn't mean it's doing great.

tl;dr society.

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You're fucking stupid lol

Incest has been widely accepted and sometime even encouraged for millennia. Modern society is just too eager to hate

Jokes aside, incest is morally wrong and humans are just not made to fuck their siblings or parents. 9 out of 10 times is not consensual either. If you seriously need to blame society because you can't see anything wrong with fucking your sister, there's no hope for you.

Also, I'm not saying it can't be consensual or that cases like that don't exist, but the ones in which both parties consent to it and have a healthy relationship are rare. I remember reading about a guy getting a divorce to enter a relationship with his mom (an old lady, mind you), siblings that were separated from birth and falling in love later and finding out after the fact. Some very special circumstances have to take place for it to happen in a way nobody gets hurt, but that's not the case always.

And I'm not counting cousins or distant relatives. Just siblings, aunts or moms, which is what most anime aim for.

You're absolutely right. I dream of a world where an onii-chan can father children with his imouto in peace.

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It was encouraged because of false beliefs of purity of blood and to preserve family bloodlines or status. Many times it proved to be fatal and the practice ended for a good reason.

nice rebuttal user

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Even with artificial insemination, your sister would be grossed out by the idea.

Gotta keep the blood pure.

Degeneracy is still degeneracy, no matter how hot it looked.

That depends on the sister, though.

RISE UP

That's because society influenced her to feel uncomfortable about it. Still, there're also sisters who would gladly do it with their oniichan but can't because he's already taken or simply because they fear rejection, not all siblings have a bad relationship.

What's wrong with making an argument from eugenics? Also, inbreeding is literally incest.

> there's people that ACTUALLY believe royals married their sisters because of lovey dovey incest
> not because of political ties and to prevent the family bloodline to be tainted with pleb blood and maintain power
Read your history before spouting shit like this, kid.

Yeah, it was widely accepted back then. But then the defects started pooping up, and people wised up and thought that maybe banging your relative wasn't such a good idea after all.

Incest is wrong and so is society

Nah, it's in your genes to not fuck your sister. If you otherwise think so, the deviant is nothing but yourself.

You retards parrot this shit in very thread despite being proven wrong constantly. You keep using data about cousin incest and applying it to siblings. That's not how it works. You're delusional.

>Nah, it's in your genes to not fuck your sister.
[citation needed]

If my sister looked like Sora, you can bet I'd be dicking her.

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School life is hard, there are a lot of expectations on teenagers, how they are supposed to live, and everything.

If the two sibilings were both 25 years old, I think nobody would care that much that they're fucking. They would say it's weird and gross, but that's it.

There was a Friends episode about this, it was consensual but they still said it was gross.

>in your genes
How do you think humanity spread from a few millions to 7B in 40'000 years? by cell division?
Underages not welcome, the site is 18+ for a reason. Shoo shoo.

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Pretty sure they'd be alienated by society if people found out they fuck each other.

Yeah, fuck genetic diversity, we obviously made it until now by fucking our relatives.

Well where's YOUR data, bub

>How do you think humanity spread from a few millions to 7B in 40'000 years?
The industrial revolution? Antibiotics?

Inbreeding was always part of evolution and it was all that happened in the first hundred thousand years of human evolution, dumb underage plebbitor.

Even if you fuck your sister and create a handicapped offspring, so what?

Are you saying handicapped people don't deserve to live?

I actually know a blind woman who is dating another blind man.
Are you going to forbid that too, because there is a chance they will pass on the "blind" genes to their children?

>Are you going to forbid that too
If I could, yes.

>9 out of 10 times is not consensual either.
Where'd you pull this statistic from?

here
genetic-genealogy.co.uk/Toc115570144.html
Typical inbreeding coefficient percentages are as follows, assuming no previous inbreeding between any parents:
Father/daughter, mother/son or brother/sister 25%
Grandfather/granddaughter or grandmother/grandson 12.5%
Half-brother/half-sister 12.5%
Uncle/niece or aunt/nephew 12.5%
Great-grandfather/great-granddaughter or great-grandmother/great-grandson 6.25%
Half-uncle/niece or half-aunt/nephew 6.25%
First cousins 6.25%
First cousins once removed or half-first cousins 3.125%
Second cousins or first cousins twice removed 1.5625%
Second cousins once removed or half-second cousins 0.78125%
Third cousins or second cousins twice removed 0.390625 %
Third cousins once removed or half-third cousins 0.195 %

Antibiotics definitely played a big part during the paleolithic period.

Both.

Your need to reduce humanity's achievements to incest is pathetic. Obviously there's way more things that factored in human success, not just fucking relatives to increase early population. Your obsession with a weird fetish shows.

They'd just be a waste of resources, if they're unable to become productive members of society.

Common sense, maybe you should look it up.

Many Arabs and Africans did. And look at them, they're doing great. Right? Real beacons of functioning civilisation, right guys?

So out of your ass then. Good one.

What is safer, doing it with a cousin or with a 40+ milf? I wonder if there're any stats about milfs by age range.

It's called being a responsible human being and not having children if you know they'll face way more hardships than it's worth it.

Your example doesn't make sense because you're assuming people would know their future children would be handicapped. Most of the times parents don't have any idea. Also, blindness is hardly comparable to genetic disorders caused by incest. So that argument isn't valid either.

Downies shouldn't be allowed to breed either and should be aborted at birth.

This argument of yours only works for people who are afraid of eugenics because TV told them nazis thought it was cool.

kek, those retards with their incest fetishism are exactly like those lunatics with "gender is a social construct".

You can fuck your sister without impregnating her, user.

This will just be ignored. Just like every other thread.

We've even had geneticists come into these threads to break it down and explain to these cretins why it's statistically a bad idea to fuck close relatives. They just turn on the reality filter every time and go back to posting the same false rhetoric in the next thread.

Inbreeding is bad, retards. 2D only.

>Unironically says "kek"
>Calls others retards
Cringe

Someone paste this in every incest thread just to see how pissed the imotofags will become.

Down Syndrome is almost always not an inherited condition. Although I agree that they should be aborted or euthanized.

There’s no justification for opposing incest if you are indifferent to promiscuous pre marital sex and sodomy.

>i-it's society's fault my sister finds me gross and doesn't want to fuck me
>watches Yosuga no Sora while crying and masturbating furiously
hahahahahahaha, i always lmfao in those threads.

Is that really the case? the inbreeding went down once humans realized that it was affecting their children negatively, whether you want to fuck your sister or not is unrelated to your genes. If two long lost siblings that were separated a birth ended living by chance in the same town, going to the same school and having the same hobbies, there is a high chance they would become friends and also lovers.
Do you think the moment they get in bed they go "eww I can't fuck you, sorry! my genes detected you're my sibling, our relationship ends here." or something like that? in reality they would fuck, have children and maybe years later find out by some dumb chance.

Great anime thread.

Well you are entitled to your opinion, but I am going to continue to fuck my sister regardless. Chapeau.

>b-but you said kek
ok, how about hahahahahahahahaha?

I love how incestfags beg for statistics and studies, yet they don't dare to tell their sisters they want to fuck them to see if their precious statistics live up to reality.

this butthurt

Thanks father, but I don't feel like going to church today.

Why do you people even bother trying to make up justifications for doing something you're never going to be able to do?

Your sister will never fuck you. She would be disgusted by the thought of it.

Unless you're some 3rd world resident living in a dysfunctional shithole. Those are the only people who do that sort of thing. And it's most likely a manifestation of hyper-sexuality caused by the girl being molested. Which if just a tragic situation that no one should want to happen.

Then why do we let niggers live with us?

hahahahahahaha so funneh dumb weebs

>you're butthurt because my sister won't fuck me
lmao, please, don't stop

It depends on the mechanism by which inbreeding avoidance activates. If it’s olfactory then even in the situation you bring up they wouldn’t become lovers. If it’s proximity during childhood development that would be different. Although I don’t think it’s that because the childhood friend is not taboo.

> Are you saying handicapped people don't deserve to live?
yes

I’m not wrong. How can people who constantly repeat “two consenting adults” and “it’s just sex” get offended by incest in anime?

>Fuck my sister
>She takes the pill after
Gee that was hard

>the inbreeding went down once humans realized that it was affecting their children negatively, whether you want to fuck your sister or not is unrelated to your genes.
See Inbreeding was a practice that was done out of necessity or political gain, not because there was an age where brothers and sisters married because they were in love. Indeed, it was ended after it was proven to be damaging to families, not because there was any societal construct. It was never done out of love, which is what incestfags refuse to understand. It was just politics or in the case of early humans, necessity to spread population. Once there was no need, it stopped.

>trollface

> comparing apples to oranges

fucking retards think you can't have sex without having a child

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>not cumming inside your sister with the intent to impregnate her
Gay.

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Having kids with an immediate family member is irresponsible. You're setting the kid up for potential health complications and a shitty QoL also because of the way society will view your family.

But if you just want to fuck and not have kids and do your thing there is realistically nothing wrong with that.

>inbreeding is good!
>no, it's actually bad
>well what If I didn't inbreed? ha checkmate!

So why do you people keep trying to make pro-inbreeding arguments if inbreeding isn't a factor?

You people keep hanging this albatross around your own necks while insisting you don't want to.

b-b-b-but muh inbreeding
b-but society said that's bad

True, there's only a 25% coefficient so the odds are in our favor.

What is the percentage for incestuous daughter and her grand/father?

>similarly aged
Clearly you yourself are already a slave to society's backwards norms.

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Angry

Are you? Is it because your sister will never ever fuck you or feel physical attraction toward you and the thought would disgust her?

>political gain
I'm sure there were a lot of political issues during the paleolithic period.

incest isn’t inbreeding
also your post is anti semitic

>incest isn’t inbreeding
That's my point. Why are you people always trying to make pro-inbreeding arguments until you get BTFO and suddenly claim inbreeding isn't a factor? Until the next thread that is, where you start all over again at step 1.

>also your post is anti semitic
I don't see how. Is it because jews are inbred? Ever wonder why they have so many genetic illnesses?

Fuck society.
You can fuck someone without anyone finding out perfectly fine. Society can go fuck itself. What are they gonna do? Tell me I am to close to my sister because we hang out and have moderately intimate contact in public? Fuck them they can't do shit if we just fuck in private.

Here is my proposition. If both siblings really consent and both are not complete idiots there is no way for anyone to find out about any kind of relationship they might have, even if they still live with their parents. I want to know how high the dark figure of discret incestual relationships is.

Is it an american to think that you HAVE TO have kids when you fuck someone?

It's a moot point as your sister will never consent to fucking you, she thinks you're gross. Also "incestual" isn't a word, retard.

Except the first one to bring up a eugenics argument was someone trying to equate incest to inbreeding. Imagine being this angry you make all this argument, but it isn't even relevant to the original question.

fuck off plague

>there is more incest in most of europe than the usa
Let's hope the merryfats never find this picture

I've seen this same thread dozens of times. You losers always defend inbreeding regardless of which side brings it up.

Reminder: You probably don't have a sister, but if you do she will never ever fuck you. Never ever.

Her onii-chan was wrong.
What is with onii-chans not loving their sisters properly?

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Is not 100% safe and will still fuck with genetic diversity.

I wouldn't want my sister to fuck me though because I'm not gay.

I'm gay. Can I fuck you sister?

Thanks for ignoring half my post.

Thanks for making a post so easily half-ignorable

Fucking retards think that legalizing incest at large scale wouldn't result on thousands of incestuous mutant babies every year.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect

Neither is normal pregnancies, if you care so much about genetic diversity then you must also be against race mixing

1) that's been disproven
2) that has fuck all to do with genes
3)
>m
You have to go back.

>it's genetic hardwiring, bucko! huge amounts of proven data! clean your room! bloody postmodern postmarxist feminists!
yeah, sounds plausible

>m

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i dont think potatos make good parents.

>genetic lottery grants you the perfect soulmate at birth
>society is a jealous faggot that makes it a social taboo because apparently everyone else has to fuck around and go through two divorces before landing on a partner that sticks
Just listen to the heart, and the fact that first generation inbreeding rarely produces deformities.

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That's technically selfcest

it would be weird to see a sister-brother couple drop off their kids at school

They probably call eachother nii-chan and nee-chan when they have sex so close enough

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>nii-chan and nee-chan
Now that's wrong.

Not if you don't know which one came out first.

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how disgusting!

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Doesn't matter, gotta have hierarchy in Japanese, otherwise it doesn't compute. What if someone asks which child you are? Are you just going to say "Oh, 1.5th, I suppose"?

What's the best Yea Forums?
Onii-chan x Imouto?
Onee-chan x Otouto?
Twins?

I dicked my cousin a few times.

ama

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Did you give him a reach-around?

sorry user I don't swing that way

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>implying they have offspring
>implying adoption doesnt exist
>implying ovules bansks doesnt exist

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yeah women 35+ years old shouldn't have kids!

Back to you go

Russia is full of retards though.

actually what this maps means is that we all come from the 2 or 3 lineages that came out of africa

Twins are the best but they're so underutilized

The former.

>it's bad because it's taboo
for fucks safe when did Yea Forums turn into moralfags? MAL and reddit have leaked so much into the boards here

So you want to prosecute every 40+ women that tries to get pregnant? They have significantly higher birth defect chance.

How many people don't realise that this 'coefficient' doesn't mean that 25% of children will have birth defects? Did anyone bother to read it?

Square is rectangle but a rectangle is not necessarily a square, laddie. You can have incest without interBREEDING.

Anal is literal shit

>implying that they will not have offspring
>implying that millions of fertile immature young couples will simply choose to avoid having their own kids

If that were the real reason incest was discouraged we would stop 13%ers and old women from reproducing.

I mean they're already avoiding

That's what happens when you drink an entire bottle of vodka for breakfeast while pregnant

They aren't, they are having less babies but every couple even in countries like Japan and China dream about having a baby with their loved one.

Also, some of the first cousin relations are done by Middle Eastern migrants or the native born children of such migrants.

Not in current society. There's no advantage to having kids whatsoever. They'll avoid it even if they don't want to.

The number of adults without kids decreased in US from 20% to 15%, more people are having kids.

The fact is there is no possible way to effectivelly shame incest couples to not have kids once you break the incest taboo and even if a minority of those sibling and parent fuckers have kids it will still cause a damage to mankind genetics.

It's not false, incest exacerbates both negative and positive traits. You just need to kill all the defective ones.

Is Pajeetistan really the only country with varying regional differences?

No political ties gained from marrying your sister you retard. Muh bloodline is true though.

So we should kill or at least force vasectomy on all the niggers? They are a net loss of resources as a race.

>that ugly bastard
I remember that thread where you post a waifu, then OP rate her with "golden coins" whit the face of that Buddha.

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Quit projecting, I don't even find my mother or my sister hot, doesn't mean I can't speak out against evil.

the kind of which causes you to be your own mother and father
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Zombies

If you care so much about your taxes being wasted I could agree to mutant incest babies not being eligible for disability support. Happy now? Or will you cry some more?

>traveling back in time to fuck yourself so you give birth to yourself
wow

Edgy /pol/tard bullshit aside comparing Blacks to literally functionally retarded people makes no sense.

Blacks works, pay takes and are able to do any kind of job. Literal clinically retards can't even use their home toilet.

So stop this race comparison to justify incest while being racist you redneck.

Pill, condom, vasectomy, calendar, etc.

based

i mean, that's only reasonable, but people lost their shit when african doctors suspected bill gates was doing that through vaccine. Why the hell wouldn't people want that? all that fuckers do is suffer and make others suffer. why not just sterilize them? do they find it funny seeing they live like that?

>Blacks works
Yeah but they take more in benefits than they put in taxes when taken as a whole. They are a drain as a race. I say we kill them, or at least all of them who are a financial burden. After all money is all that counts when it comes to morality.
;^)

At least you are consistent.

>Yeah but they take more in benefits than they put in taxes when taken as a whole.
Source?

Coolface*

>that's been disproven
Nope. Criticised =/= disproven.

>comparing Blacks to literally functionally retarded people makes no sense.
Considering the average IQ of multiple African countries is literally in the retarded range, it makes perfect sense.

It's as unscientific as it gets. If you want to argue a mechanism for avoiding people you grew up with as romantic interests you might as well say it's a cultural thing and it'll make more sense.

>Who was wrong? Incest or society?

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Reminder his direct little sister was literally perfect

Actually re:evolution, there's pretty strong case that modern humans are a result of many homo sapien species. It's not a race thing either, we all Neanderthal genes in our DNA.

>multiple generations of incest
you got me there

Also he was the result of several generations of incest.
Technically speaking if you have no recessive alleles incest would result in perfectly fine babies 100% of the time.

>Technically speaking if you have no recessive alleles incest would result in perfectly fine babies 100% of the time.
Hmm yes, because of the 20k genes and 40k alleles in just a single human, not a single one is recessive. What a very likely and very relevant technicality.

>t. Untermensch

love between fraternal twins is the purest form of love

>not identical yuri

If you really wanted to make the eugenics argument, you'd come to the conclusion of killing all men since men are way more likely to have shit genes than women across the board, and the difference in quality and quantity of diseased genes between the sexes far exceeds the differences between race or class.

smoll bochi approves incest

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>entire classroom with 10 students
>only four female students: Generic rich, Class Rep, Crazy priestess, and Sister

Sister is the better option because he live the shitty, poor japanese countryside

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