One Piece

This.
Also, even Doflamingo recognized than Sanji was really strong, but not as strong as him. That would hardly be the case of Franky.

If there was a 1v1 between the two Sanji would win because he has better fundamentals and his basic kicks are on a higher tier than anything Franky could put out, not to mention he outspeed him and has better mobility thanks to his sky walk.

>Technically Sanji is still stronger since he's still listed as in the monster trio.
Was this concept ever mentioned post-TS? It really stopped being relevant once Franky joined, since he was also fairly strong guy that would jump into a fight head first. It was visible when we had just them, coward trio and later Robin who mostly kept on the sidelines and jobbed whenever she tried to do something. The last thing we had about them together was them being the only ones with Haki, but with Usopp learning it and Jinbe joining, it gets even less relevant. I mean, it's possible they're three strongest, but they're not as much of a trio anymore.

No, he's only slightly above Zoro.

Alright shitposters. I need your help. Remember, the faster you get in on this thread and post "Wano is shit" and reply to yourself, even if you have to add "though" at the end of it, the better.

Wano will ONLY be about Yasu and Hyougoro. This is the narrative we need to push. Even if you pretend to ignore this post, every time you shitpost, I'll know you're silently tipping your fedora at me saying "We'll be okay."

Who is it?

Wait why are we certain that's his strongest? Franky Shogun exists.

survived with out the need of a tetanus shot, that is impressive.

hard cope

Okay this was good, keep it going.

Yes, but Sanji's sheer power isn't what makes him a better fighter than Zoro and Franky

Sanji has boosters on his feet now, he'll be able to go even faster, and he had a ridiculous speed feat in WCI already.

>Was this concept ever mentioned post-TS? It really stopped being relevant once Franky joined
It was only ever mentioned after Franky joined. In Thriller Bark and Fishman Island.
In Enies Lobby Oda used Doriki to establish the power dynamics of the crew.

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>his basic kicks are on a higher tier than anything Franky could pu-

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damn sanji looks absolutely exhausted here after that kick

Sorry, Zolofags already reserved the Yea Forums shonen's "he just holding back" excuse.

>Implying Zoro would’ve been able to do anything to that door
That door had literally plot armor. Oda wanted them to stay there.

Didn't know Luffy was #4.

>he had a ridiculous speed feat in WCI already.
Dodging the bean? Wasn't that more a reaction thing than a speed thing? Yeah, the two are interlinked, but not interchangable.

Nope.
Man I make the scholar's fallacy too much here.

By that logic you can say Franky not knocking out Buffalo and Baby 5 was due to their plot armor as Oda wanted them to stay awake (so Usopp and Nami could get their moment too).

What's wrong with Baby 5?
She wanted to marry strange ugly men?
Luckily doffy killed the guys
She betray her family because of Sai dick ..
She is so ungrateful

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From what I recall Caesar said it was a material meant to absorb all physical attacks, he deduced it must've been Vegapunk's laser that melted it.

>tfw oda's into those doujins where utter babes get violated by ugly old men

Sai's dick was 500 million bounty plus continent splitting
She knew she reached her peak and no other man would satisfy her

Oven

why did oda make the cook whose job is too cook and trained by trannies stronger and more relevant than the swordsman whose only purpose is to fight

When was it mentioned? I recall them being collectively called monsters back in Alabasta, but nothing later. And by Thriller Bark we had new status quo with the "weak trio" running from zombies and the rest fucking them up, Chopper even cried for Franky to help him later on. And as for your example, I'm not arguing Franky is stronger or as strong as them, just that the concept doesn't really makes sense anymore when we have more superhumans who love to brawl than just three.

I can´t believe Buffalo is taller than Katakuri

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He's definitely more of a chad.

In TB Nami was upset that that whole monster trio had been caught first.
After timeskip Caribou called them that after they were taken by the currents while fighting the kraken.

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Help me out here for I have speedread. When he kicked him down before Oven could stop the cart?

>wielding baby 5 by the legs
god he was lucky
should've married her while he had the chance. doffy would've been okay with a member of his crew, surely.

Oh, I see. Forgot about those. So I guess it does exists still, aside of the fact they haven't been together for lie 240 chapter, but it might get resurrected on Onigashima. But we don't know how Jinbe's inclusion will affect things.

ch 886

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Because Sanji is just more superior

Ah ok, that Sanji shitposting image is debunked then, huh.

Part of the reason Jinbe's inclusion has been delayed so much is probably due to his strength.

Attacking without being seen isn't super unique.

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Oh yeah, that. Thanks.

God those panels were badass.

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High school AU spin-off when?

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Seems more like he's dead.

Reminder Brook is still better than all three in speed department to the point of blitzing a Yonko.

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modern one piece art looks like shit with messes of black ink and cluttered panels

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Okay, quote some examples of that when you're ready.

I mean, not to say current OP isn't more cluttered, but if you want a fair comparison, you need to post an action scene.

exactly this. jinbe would disrupt the "monster trio" system.
raw strength - probably on par with zoro, and above sanji.
speed - below sanji, close behind zoro
special abilities - best in water, and has real water attacks (sanji can only blue walk).
haki - took a punch from akainu, i doubt the water had much effect against it.
zoro has cutting feats that might match it, while sanji has bone-breaking feats (his own)

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OH NO NO NO
From the same chapter.

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>t. edgy 15 years old

To be fair, Rayleigh said people usually specialize in one haki type, and Sanji is an observation specialist.

>Zoro is a speedlet
The absolute fucking state of this sorry character

Speed blitzes will always be cool, I'm into the politics and worldbuilding and all that too.

There you go. It's much cleaner and easier to follow in my opinion
This looks better than anything we got in the current arc

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>edgy 15 years old
Her onii-chan disappointed her so much she idolizes enemy pirates now?

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Disagree but you're entitled to your opinion.

Seriously, Usopp being the weakest straw hat was always a shitty meme (even if it came from Oda). He's not only about as durable as Zoro (inb4 Kamazu scene), but also has borderline superhuman speed (was able to get Robin from Aokiji in an instant). Even taking him being the best SH when it comes to versatility and tactics, Nami really had nothing on him before Brook gave her Zeus.

>sanjifags can't read
Sasuga.

I mean, Usopp was the one with an inferiority complex during W7.

One Piece Race ranking

1.Humans
2.Giants
3. Long arm
4. Long leg
5. Fishmen
6.Minks
7.Wano

Wano peeps are human.

Yeah, but this hardly changes the fact Nami has always been the weakest before WCI (and who knows now). Usopp probably developed it since he's a man and his goal was always to be a brave warrior of the sea, Nami never cared abut strength as an element of her persona.

0. Three eye tribe

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damn, One Piece used too look like THIS?

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Why is Doflamingo not making an alliance with Big Mom?
He is the boss of the underworld and has many connections
Baby 5 can marry Montdor

Why is she so based? Sanji is so lucky.

He blocks his path to the woman's bath - he eats dirt.

She single-handedly beat Doublefinger and Kalifa, what did Usopp do ?

She probably didn't care for smile abomination. Plus, by getting close to Wano he can participate in the seastone trade.

Usopp has more victories under his belt though with Chuu, Perona and that FI officer.

BM's goal is world peace. Kaido wants to destroy the world like Doffy.

IMAGINE
HER
MASSIVE
DUMPS

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>too
All I really needed to know.

Please stop being such a disgusting fuck.

Franky will beat Queen.
He's not overall stronger than the monster trio, but his destructive capacity when he'll go all out will be absurd.
Also, he's the chaddest of the SH, period.

When Doffy said he wanted to destroy the world, it was in quotes. Contextually he meant the world of the Celestial Dragons, aka the upper world.

I could see Franky and Sanji tag-teaming Queen but not solo Franky, unless BM leaves him in a wheelchair.

So the real question is, why didn't Doffy team up with the Revolutionary Army?

>yfw Raid Suit 2.0 is designed to dock with Franky Shogun

>Sora in the comic has a transforming robot ally
Wait...

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Doffy was a crazy motherfucker. Dialogue would suggest he still found the RAs beneath him. And he still was the ruler of Dressrosa, couldn't be hanging out at the secret base of Baltigo all the time.

Anyone miss the Sanji-Zoro Tagteam?

Stop manufacturing hype, the Germa suit we saw is the only one we're getting.

Who's the seagull in the scenario?

Borsalino!

By the way, how's Sunny doing? Did anyone attend to it or is it still lying on that one beach?

Zoro

Big News Morgans

One would assume by now some of the minks or someone with Tama's group checks on the Sunny, probably need to stock it with some weapons if they're using it for the raid on Onigashima.

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None of these opponents were as strong as Baroque Works / CP9 at that time, and Usopp mostly rely on pranks and hit&run to beat his opponents (Chuu, Perona, Sugar...) while Nami beats them fair and square.

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Dumb speedy

Damn I forgot Nami could actually withstand the use of an Impact Dial.

Vivre Card Databook is not canon

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Oda it seems gave u p after the timeskip everything story and art got sloppy. I can't even take wano seriously

>that guy on the right
Illuminati confirmed.

What did they screw up this time?

Nah, the effort's still there, the art's just scratchy again like pre-peak-art days.

Instead I can see it. Franky didn't fight seriously until now, we don't know the extent of his capabilities and new weapons. (Vs Senior Pink was a manly punch out, he could just've lazored him)

I can see Sanji vs King for the themes fire and flying, while Zoro gets Kyoshiro

So since an important body already dropped, what's stopping Orochi from dying soon? Wanoese people are going to hate him for what he did to their beloved Yasu.

Usopp could use the dial too, remember he defeated Perona's second strongest zombie with it. And Perona herself was fairly strong too., I wouldn't say she's worse than CP9. Definitely more dangerous. Furthermore, he defeated Daruma via sheer power too (that's why the fight was shitty, by the way, that's not what I like Usopp for), Chuu was also mostly beaten by hitting him with a hammer enough times. Perona and Sugar were beaten through pranks probably because Usopp didn't want to beat up girls (he had large enough arsenal to kill them once they were at his mercy).

Nothing really, Zoro or Kyoshiro may kill him pretty soon.

He'll get Gomu Gomu no Bazooka'd out of Wano or something and then get a cover story like Buggy or Wapol.

The very fact that Orochi killed Yasu reinforces his position as one of the central players of the arc.
The fire festival plan is also reliant on him leading the shogun procession.

Can't wait for the rise of Orochi's toad oil business

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Yes, you have proved Oda is the most overworked mangaka in the industry and shades less now, congratulations.

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Post timeskip One Piece is soulless

So surely his dragon form can do more then? He's right there, and Zoro's pissed that he killed his buddy. What abilities do Yamata No Orochis have in mythology?

Disproveable within 3 chapters.

Basically the only opponent Usopp has beaten fairly is Daruma who was fodder for post-TS strawhats. He uses unfair tactics to overcome strong opponents because he simply cannot beat them in a fair fight unlike Nami or Chopper. Usopp is the weakest, there should be no debate on this.

I'm not even sure what level of irony this post is on.

Yasu just sacrificed himself to make Orochi look delusional about the rebellion.
Zoro shouldn't interfere as it would prove Orochi's claims legit. Though if Orochi notices Toko or Hiyorisaki then it's a different story.

Or that Sanji couldn't even beat the weakest member.

Ahhh ok I see where this is going. He's gonna see "Komurasaki" and get furious. And Zoro's not gonna let him just slay his fuckbuddy.

Cannot wait for Big Mom and Zoro vs. Kaido

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What the fuck? In the manga Sora looked like a kid to be reminiscent of the old 70-80s newspaper manga.

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Zorojuro

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Hard to tell with the cape.

You can still tell he's much shorter and got gangling limbs.

How huge is Otoko's penis?

Post your fanfiction somewhere else!

I think since he's a mythological beast that lives in the rivers he can summon water, but other than that he's just a lizard with eight heads and eight tails. He's pretty much just a Japanese version of the Hydra.

Law is hot

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He can control Kaido

The size of a jellybean.

One piece handsome men

1.Law
2.Zoro
3.Doflamingo
4.Ace
5. Katakuri
6.Senior Pink (young)
7.Shanks
8. Hawkins

Well, I for one cannot. He's bending on his knees, and due to his arm being bent too it's hard to tell how long it's supposed to be, as it may be a perspective thing. And the image isn't very detailed. He definitely looks taller than most kids in OP do though.

So it's essentially like Orochi's controlling an Ancient Weapon.

Good Early Morning! Is anyone hungry? If so, here are some exclusive character specials from the Mugiwara Cafe that will make you even hungrier.
Which character's dish is your favorite?
1. Luffy's Meaty Bun Burger and Zoro's Meito Green Tea Soba

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How the fuck do you miss the one character who is considered so handsome, women constantly faint in his presence?

2. Nami's Creamy Custard Orange Pizza and Sanji's Swirly Sausage Burger

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3. Chopper's Cherry Blossom Waffles and Robin's Hana-Hana S*ybean Pudding

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I'll be picking Nami's already.

4. Franky's Super Meat-Wrapped Onigiri and Brook's Teriyaki Chicken Pizza

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Hawkins has the best design in One Piece

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5. Whitebeard's Gura-Gura Gratin and Shanks' Mixed Pasta

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6. Ace's Tomato Curry and Sabo's Fire Fist Shrimp&Chilli Carbonara

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7. Pudding's Sweet Pudding Parfait and Katakuri's 'Mochi-Tsuki' Sweet Donut

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8. Carrot's Garchu Mont Blanc and Perona's Ghost Wraps

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9. Hancock's Love-Sick Brûlée Pancakes and Crocodile's 'Ground Death' Curry

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Reminder

10. Mihawk's Pasta Pescatore and Law's Grilled Fish Set

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By the way, Hawkins is notable for having the biggest gap between Viz and Jump popularity polls (20th vs 75th) from the top20 ones in the west. Guess Japan doesn't care for edge too much.

Sanji can't use hardening

oh ho, it seems nostalgiafags are at it again
post wanokino

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He's still the least physically resilient guy on the SH crew, or maybe he's tied with Brook just because he's only a skeleton, but Brook at least has the speed to dodge the damage that would incapacitate him.
Though I would argue with his new plant based arsenal he's at least stronger than Robin (unless she has another new ability hidden other than using giant limbs to hit people with), who is the current weakest member of the SH crew.

What killed the hype?

Um, sweetie, OP takes a 1-2 week hiatus every other chapter.

>He's still the least physically resilient guy on the SH crew
He took a 4 ton bat to the head. And Ms. Valentine also went with a ton on him I think. I don't think Sanji has shown to be more resilient than him. Enel took them both out just as easily. Though there's Thriller Bark when Sanji got roughed up the most aside of Zoro. Anyway, Nami definitely can't compare to him in this department from what we've seen and he can stand alongside the male crew members when it comes to durability even if he's somewhat worse. He gets beaten up a lot, but he's usually quite fine afterwards, just losing motivation (the best example being Mr. 2 fight).

Sweet.

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What's "kino" about your page? The only great part of Kaido's attack was him trying to recruit Shutenmaru while drunk and his underlings trying to damage control,

They look so bad. Would not eat.

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>oda wastes his time on snapchat when he should be slaving away 24/7 working on one piece
Why do we defend him?

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Fuck off.

Who inspired him to be the best?

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Hawkins' sword is wearing a straw hat

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he's a secret fan and the next nakama

That's mighty cute.

noticed how he recognized nami when her towl dropped

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His power is literally made of straw.

>crossed swords on his shirt
What is Oda planning this time?

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>Zoro gets beaten up soon
>gets a flashback to his first meeting with Kuina after the first fight
>"Heh, you're so weak, why would someone like you want to be the strongest swordsman?"
>"I want to..." *panel outside*
>Kuina confused,then bursts out laughing
>"What a ridiculous idea!"
>x years of headcanons follow

>Big Meme was underwhel-

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Why did his sword suddenly disappear the page after?

She needs Perospero to do this tho.

She could have just used any homie to ride the wave.

She needs Perospero once to make all that candy and the rest of the time the candy belongs to her

I love Mama with all my heart

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I love her so much more!!! I would gladly give Mama all of my lifespan

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Listen. The exaggerations are fun. But how does it do your side any favors to lie?

Can't wait for Kaido's hybrid form, cause while boro breath is cool, his full zoan form seemed to be less suited for fighting than his human form desu

Factors to consider:
Dragon form: was drunk
Oni form: sobered up

Kino indeed.

Fuck off

True, but he still switched to handle Luffy

I'm not here to fit into your contrarian narrative mate, sometimes a spade should just be called a spade.

I didn't get the impression him transforming back was on purpose.

Please, do not try to argue with the Wanormies. They lack any form of critical thinking and they probably jumped into One Piece during Dressrosa.

I can't remember it suddenly disappearing, what chapter?

Wanofag here, been reading weekly since Impel Down.

Nope, he recognized her from her feet.

936, his sword pointing toward Nami then we don't see it next page

>"CARROT IS GOING TO JOIN THE STRAWHATS AS LOOKOUT"
>Couldn't spot a giant fucking wave the size of a castle until it was right next to the ship
lol

Ah ok, I just reread it. The sword's out, then Nami uses her Happiness Punch, it impacts Drake and Hawkins checks up on him instead of fighting Nami.

I think you reread too fast, Drake didn't get affected by the happiness punch

He’s the strongest strawhat if we go by strongest metal destroyed.
Zoro can’t vegametal either.

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>3. Long arm
>4. Long leg
Since when they are that strong?

Also you forgot Sky People

Who would femanons rather get with, Franky or Sanji?
And reminder that canonically Franky does have genitals.

Goddamn, that sounds fucking metal and badass as fuck!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamata_no_Orochi
Basically just a giant fuck-off eight-headed mountain-sized snake. It had a sword in it's tail after Susano'o kills it.

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OH FUCK.
Hawkins recognizes Nami from her true origin.
Just before this he’s cut off saying “She is...”
Then he’s asking Drake about a world region.
Nami is a princess of a destroyed kingdom, and Hawkins is gonna lore drop it.

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Cute.

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Ah lame never mind, Okyot Island is in east blue.

You realize that on Skypiea Zoro could not cut the giant snake?
Do you realize what the legendary eight headed snake having a legendary sword in its belly implies about how it does vs swordsmen?
I bet Kinemon can create any kind of fire, even “susanoo” style Fire, and that this is needed to defeat Orochi.
Norland could cut god snake scales but Zoro tried and could not. He needs a different method to win.

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uh oh

Kinemon can cut “all” fire. This means he can nullify Marco’s regenerative flame, he can nullify Sasuke’s susano’o flame.
Luffy’s couldn’t hurt the snake on Skypiea with punches and Zoro couldn’t cut it.
Orochi/Kaido are the same.

>“susanoo” style Fire
this isn't naruto
fuck off

Why the fuck are these threads so goddamn autistic?
Like who gives a shit what Drake got knocked out by whether it was Nami or a random woman. Every fucking thread some mega autistic discussion about a single panel breaks out that ultimately really doesn't fucking matter in the slightest.
No one cares what sword Zoro used to cut that dragon's head.
It doesn't matter. You're all missing on the bigger picture with your massive autism.

I wasn’t even referring to Naruto, I was referring to a specific post in the thread which said the eight headed snake of mythology was beaten by super elite fire.
I took note of how a legendary samurai has a fire ability, and how Zoro can’t cut god snakes canonically.

than start discussions about what you want to discuss faggot

If Oda gave a fuck about him then he could be. Dude could make god-tier tech instead of toys, make a body of Kairoseki , copy germa's tech and use it on himself and so on

Naruto copied the myth not the other way.

>specific post in the thread which said the eight headed snake of mythology was beaten by super elite fire
Wherever that post is, it's bullshit. In the legend Susano-o just distracted each head with a jug of sake and cut them all off with his sword.

Sanji is a jobber and quite frankly, nothing would be lost if he was removed from the series.

He doesn't even have a fan base or anything.

That’s important though. There’s a lot of speculation about Nami being a princess/ancient weapon.
>When I look closer, I see there is a REAL princess here.
>Brook/Ryuuma looking at Nami.

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But it wasn't
orochi was defeated by susanoo baiting it with booze and than cutting it's heads off
there's nothing about fire in that story

It's impossible because the conversation will always be taken over by Kinemonfags discussing about how he's gonna beat King because he uses fire or some dumb shit.

that's a shitty translation

There's no chapter this week, so there's no new material to discuss. Furthermore, we've been reading for years, so most of the big stuff has been discussed already with the current material available. Little stuff is all that's left aside of repeating the same point at infinitum. If you don't like, you don't have to be here.

>There still people falling for the Kinemonfag retarded headcanon
You guys never learn, huh

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Ah ok, I reread and it’s my mistake. Zoro still can’t cut those scales though, if he can’t cut Doflamingo’s string. And there’s the issue of “Oden was stronger than Zoro and still lost.”

than ignore them and continue your own discussion

Sake is alcoholic which and can be considered to be "fire water", another similarity to Kinemon as he was captured by a shark underwater at one point. Thanks this is all definitely pointing in the right direction.

Maybe you could at least try instead of whining about it.

>if you look closely there is a princess here
Seems hard to mistranslate

Please do not respond to schizo-user.

>adding headcanon to millennia old myths
sasuga kinemonfags

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What are you discussing that’s a better topic than Kinemon in the land of the samurai?

Oda likes to use popular culture and reference his peer manga, though. Kinemonfag didn’t invent orochimaru going down to fire, it’s already a pop cultural thing from Baruto.

Franky is the worst character ever.

>Zoro could not beat a snake 15 years ago in the story
>Must mean that he's definitely doomed to lose to Orochi and that Kinemon will save him because he knows how to use fire and fire is stronger than snakes as it was pointed out by Luffy losing to Akainu which is "fire" and Luffy being able to stretch like a snake.

So this is what living with Schizophrenia feels like.

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Zoro couldn’t cut Doflamingo’s strings a few weeks ago in canon time.
It’s a pretty clear obstacle presented by Oda.
>Zoro can’t cut the snakes and now he’s against one.
Sorry if that is too much for you to grasp.

It's not ok to let misinformation float around, user.

On Skypiea Zoro couldn’t cut the birdcage string or the snake scales.
On Dressrosa he couldn’t cut the birdcage strings again.
On Wano there is a new snake.
You are the retard.

Who wins the following fights?
Kinemon vs Kyros
Kinemon vs Pedro
Kinemon vs Judge
Kinemon vs Denjiro
Kinemon vs Diamante
Kinemon vs Pica
Kinemon vs Cavendish/Hakuba
Kinemon vs Kamazo

Who are you quoting about Luffy being a snake? Are you ok user?

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Is this page kino?

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Pretty sure Kinemon would win all of those. The Pica one would be hardest probably, for his style.
He’s the leader of the red scabbards and Oda draws him with perfect form.

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I wonder how much time Oda spent on those fingers, they look perfect and have a snake-cutting aura to them.

Yep.

You are canonically the most annoying and retarded piece of low IQ shit that has ever cursed these threads with your autistic presence.
Kill yourself Kinemonfag your theories are utter dogshit and you are too fucking stupid to understand a children's comic book. Shanks hair color has no meaning either, fuck you.

What is this mental illness?

One of the most kino pages in many years, yep. Got posted on other boards for how awesome it was too.

To be fair Zoro never tried cutting them. Now, I'm not saying he can, but the only thing he ever did was push against them, he never tried hitting them with any momentum, use flying slash, Asura or any other named technique.
>inb4 then why woulldn't he
I don't know really. The thing is, he just didn't. Zoro can be quite autistic sometimes, like when he decided to leave Moria to Luffy even though they had to finish him off within a time limit and had nothing else to do. Or maybe he thought it was too big. Or maybe he just knew it was too tough and he had no hope of cutting it. The case in point is, we don't know.

That’s a mere zoom in on this page:
So he spent quite a bit of time drawing him in his info box page.

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Kyros
Kinemon
Judge
Denjiro
Kinemon
no idea(depends of where tehy fight)
Kinemon
Kinemon

It’s your mental illness user, we are having an on-topic discussion and you keep spamming about disorders, projecting.

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Stop samefagging Kinemonspic

It’s not the color that suggests it has a meaning, it’s the greytone shade which s exclusive to Shanks hair for 20 years, which only the red Poneglyphs also have.
Only Shanks hair and the Road Glypha are not shaded black or white in the whole story, its true that Shanks hair is also identical in color to the road glyphs though.

Why are you always so angry and always posting about mental illnesses? Recently diagnosed?

Reminder that the kinemonspic thought Wiper had seastone in his bazooka

Reminder that was proven true.

Ya, he also thought “Mr. Bushido” meant Zoro would be associated to Wano, what a retard!

The only thing to make this thread reach peak autism now is to argue which sword Zoro used to cut the dragon

>A schizophrenic may find meaning and patterns in places where it is not present. He sees links and correlations in the mundane, where a normal person just sees a coincidence, a schizophrenic sees a conspiracy theory, that only he will understand as truth.
Deepest Lore.

Did you literally not read the part where he locked his skates around Enel and used his Reject Dial? Or when Zoro grabbed his skate knowing it will nulify Enel's logia ability?

Can you explain why only Shanks hair and only the road glyphs have greytone shading in the whole manga?
That seems unlikely to have a meaning to you?

Is it a coincidence that the Kinemonfag fits all of those criteria to a tee?

Yes.

We had a huge discussion about this, the skates are literally named something other than “shooter” earlier in the arc. You can’t “wrap your legs” around Enel before he’s affected by the stone.
It’s true the skates had seastone, it’s also true he “added some to [his] shooter.”
We even looked at raws and confirmed.

He could wrap his legs around Enel exactly because his skates are made of Seastone.
It doesn't make any bit of sense that his bazooka would have seastone in it, because it violates common sense.

Well that’s your opinion, I think that foreshadowing is a very real technique in literature, and that Oda claimed he knew the last chapter in the first.
In a black and white manga, only Shanks hair was grey for 20 years.
Then the road glyph was shown, and it was in greytone.
I didn’t just recently marathon the story as my first read, so it seems very notable to me through over a decade of following. I’m pretty sure it means something.
>opinions
Schizophrenia is a thing, but so is low IQ.

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>You can’t “wrap your legs” around Enel before he’s
And how does that change the fact that Wyper never directly touched Enel with his bazooka?. The weapon part of wyper that ever directly touched Enel was his skates, kill yourself you schizo.

So when will we see a timeskip Miss Goldenweek?

Actual insanity.

user that’s your opinion but in the manga Waiper tells Enel he “added” the seastone to his “shooter,” not that he merely used something that already had seastone by default.

Zoro got a boner right there

Shooter (シューター)was referring to the skates. The name of Wypers weapon is Burn Bazooka (燃焼砲) not Shooter

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Kyros is stronger than him, he beat one of Doffy's seats with mid difficulty at best . Kinémon got fodderized by both Law and Doffy and was less threatening than Vergo.
Kinémon hasn't beaten a single person in the entire manga. He also loses to Judge, Pica and Denjirou who should be Shutenmaru level.

I though this guy was just really fucking stupid or a troll but he has been doing this for years. He might actuallty be a schizo no one can be this blind to reality .

he shot enel with the burn bazooka, which he explains later that he added seastone too.
He literally says on panel he added seastone to his shooter. We looked at the raw and it was accurate as well. The skates don’t need seastone added, they always have it.
Small traces of seastone or small concentrations of it are slower to take affect. Luffy didn’t notice he was weakening until he collapsed when he held the bars at Alabasta.
Going off what’s shown, Enel is shot by burn bazooka, which Waiper ‘added seastone’ to as shrapnel, and then Waiper is able to grab him as a result. It’s true the skates all use seastone, but they are named in the arc and their name is not “shooter,” but as skates.

This is stale pasta. Kinemon is Shutenmaru’s superior, and can cut people too.

And yet, Zoro went to pick up Wyper's skates after he said this to Enel. Enel also first and foremos destroyed Wyper's skates after he revived himself. Let's take your argument that Shooter specifically meant his bazooka, then that means Wyper never once mentioned his skates had Seastone in them, if we take "Shooter" meant bazooka.
Which meant, somehow both Zoro and Enel completely misunderstood Wyper saying "Shooter" as his "Skates", for some unexplained reason.
Or, Oda intended for "Shooter" to mean skates all along.

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Who’s defeated Doflamingo and Law? For fucks sake Law’s ability also worked to escape Fujitora and short of an asspull, kill Doflamingo.

This dude is insane

I've been literally saying this dude is legit insane since I first heard him talk about Wyper months ago. You people are speedreading Yea Forums, no one can be this fucking dumb.

Not pasta, it's the truth.
>Kinemon is Shutenmaru’s superior, and can cut people too.
Fucking Morgan can cut people too, how is that supposed to prove anything? Kin only cut fodder white Ashura cut a Yonko commander with a bounty of 1 billion.

Zoro picked up the skates because those have a permanent source of seastone. Wiper never “added” seastone to his skates, the material of the blade of the skate was always seastone in the first place.
It’s not one or the other. He couldn’t pick up the shrapnel from the bazooka blast.

Take your pills, that made no sense. I suffer with severe depression, paeranoia and agoraphobia barely havign any human contact in the past decade and even i can see you are unstable.

And he is Kinemon’s subordinate samurai.
So far only Kinemon has brought something new to the sword table, and years later it’s revealed Oden is from Kuri just like him, and that he is the leader of the red scabbards entrusted to fulfill the prophecy.

Nah man, she's like a sister to him.

>This is stale pasta. Kinemon is Shutenmaru’s superior, and can cut people too.
The story so far:
Kinemon: ''Hey Shutemaaru, wanna join us and avenge Oden..?''
Shutenmaaru: ''Who are you again? Fuck off, I only served Oden because I respected him only''

The exact opposite of what you said. Kinemon is such a weakling that Shutenmaaru doesn't recognize him as leader.

Zoro can’t beat Doflamingo or Law. Kinemon never “fought” either of them.
He ran from Law trying to avoid fighting, and Doflamingo + Fuji ran from Kinemon and Zoro.
Kinemon was barely damaged by Doflamingo’s attack.

Neko, Inaurashi, Kanjuro, and etc all do though.
Shutenmaru is a defeated man, Kinemon’s will stayed strong this whole time. Shutenmaru is a bitch coward in comparison.

Wrong. Neko and Inuarashi obey Momonosuke. They stopped fighting because he asked. Not Kinemon.

>thunder-clap
literally clapped

The story so far is Kinemon stayed fit and never gave up while Shutenmaru is defeated and fat and whines about how no one is like Kinemon.

You are wrong in many fundamental levels, and speedread the entire fight.

First off, his skates aren't made of seastone, the screws in them are. Otherwise Enel wouldn't have been able to destroy the skates so easily.
Second, ask yourself this: Why did Zoro try to take the skates? Well, because they had Seastone in them right. But then you have to ask a second question: HOW DID HE KNOW. If Shooter did indeed mean Bazooka, then that means that Wyper NOT ONCE mentioned that his skates had Seastone in them. Never, and yet everyone seem to knew the moment he said "I added Seastone to my Shooter". It makes no sense if we take Shooter meaning Bazooka.

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Sure is strange they let Kinemon be his bodyguard then.

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>if “shooter” means “shooter”
You’re being retarded at this point.
The skates are named in the arc and their name is not “shooter.”

and that somehow should prove that they obey him? Are you retarded?
Kinemon is Momonosuke's bodyguard because he serves the family and Momo is the head of the family (considering everyone else is dead except the slut)

Who else is Kinemon supposed to serve?

zoro episodes are best episodes

that still doesn't prove Shutenmaaru accepts Kinemon's leadership

all evidence says the contrary

fuck off Kinfag

'Shooter' is literally written out in hiragana, yet people still believe it's referring to the bazooka?

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Him being the literal leader of the red scabbards as decided 20 years ago implies it, not just the scene there.
Him being the specific bodyguard to Momonosuke also implies it. Otherwise Inaurashi should have guarded Momonosuke.

Then please explain the argument at hand. You keep avoiding the issue.
Wyper never once mentioned his skates had seastone in them, how did Zoro know then? Do you, with your superior reading and knowledge, think of it as strange that Zoro knew despite no one ever telling him?

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Because Kinémon went into the future with him while Neko and Inu spent that time on Zou unsure if Momonosuke will ever come back?
Trusting someone doesn't mean that said someone is stronger than you either you schizo.

I’ll concede about what Shutenmaru “accepts,” but it’s because he a fat loser who already surrendered his will and gave up. He can cut a guy and not KO him though, and then get bested, wow!

Wasn’t Kinemon drawn outside the castle, “too late,” as it was being burned and Momo, his sister and his mom were inside, with the page saying they were too late?

>people
Just one mentally ill spic.

And yet, Kinemon DESPERATELY wants him to join the Alliance. Kinemon's objective this entire time in Wano has been to get Ashura to join.
He is even okay with the entire forest burning down, one of the only left in all of Wano, if it means current Shutenmaru will join.
What does that say about his strength as a warrior if Kinemon needs him that much?

you fuckers need to shut up

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Oda often uses real English words with real English meanings in hirigana. That supports the argument that it’s not the skates which Wiper names differently i his fight with Luffy.

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Please don't post this spaz anymore. I am of the opinion that SchizoAnon is legit insane but this Ohara guy is even more so.

ok retard

See:

thelibraryofohara.com/2019/04/14/vivre-card-databook-vol-8-all-the-new-information/
At least read the fucking vivre card.

No, only the Kinemonfag and he is schizophrenic

kaido's weapon is impregnated with haki just like black blades

>thinking “I added seastone to my shooter” means “my skates that always have seastone.”
That doesn’t make sense, are the vivre cards even written by Oda?

Well, both Zoro and Enel also understood that line as "my skates have seastone in them", seeing as how they reacted after Enel was revived.
Maybe you're the one who doesn't get it?

>consistently 3-4 on Jap poles
>3 on US pols
>doesn’t have a fanbase
Ok

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Yes they were written by Oda schizo spic-kun

Wiper took seastone from his skates and added them to his shooter, and then Enel arrogantly didn’t dodge “burn bazooka.” Because of this, Wiper could be fast enough to wrap Enel.
The skates always have seastone so it doesn’t make sense to “add” it to them and call them a “shooter.”
In Luffy vs Wiper, I think Wiper actually makes his skates as well. Their name isn’t “shooter.”

I'm pretty sure that the schizo knows he's wrong but won't shut up out of pride

Wiper *names his skates in the Skypiea arc before the Enel fight and their name isn’t “shooter,” I meant to say.

No one has addressed that the skates have a different name than shooter, and that Enel also destroys Wiper’s shooter.
Maybe Wiper’s shooter was named “shooter?”

That doesn't answer the question SchizoBro. It seems to be you are avoiding the question here. You might be mentally unstable, but you're smart enough to understand what I'm getting at right?
If "Shooter" = Bazooka. Then Wyper never once mentioned his skates had Seastone in them. Then it makes no sense for Zoro to hurridly pick them up, since he shouldn't have known.
But if "Shooter" = Skates. Then it makes full sense that Zoro went to pick the skates up, because Wyper had just revealed that they have Seastone in them.

I'll give you this explanation for Wyper. He wants to hide the fact that they're special, that hey have seastone in them. So he names them what everybody else names them. But when he says that they have seastone in them, then he changes the name to their proper name, "Shooter", since they no longer are normal skates but seastone skates.

Depends on what you mean by strong. In terms of destructive power, probably, but if by "power" you mean "combat capability," then no, Sanji is. Whether it's because of his new raid suit or not is besides the point. The Straw Hats have a pretty solid fighting hierarchy and characters may move around sometimes due to situational power-ups or nerfs, but they will inevitably move back. It's possible that Oda used Sanji the way he has post-timeskip, even putting him in a situation where Franky could save them but he could not, specifically to show why he needed a power-up like the raid suit. Even without the raid suit, he acted like the #3 of the Straw Hats, attacking Vergo (a Vice Admiral Smoker had trouble with), attacking Doflamingo (a character on Luffy's level), fending off Daifuku and Oven (characters only a tier below the characters Luffy fought in that arc), teaming up with Jinbe (who should be right below him in the hierarchy, but is obviously not, which is why he hasn't joined yet).

So, regardless how you feel about the raid suit, I think Sanji should be stronger than Franky now - which is where he's supposed to be. This is similar to how Nami was pretty much useless before Usopp gave her the Clima Tact and now she's obviously stronger than him (I say "now," but I mean, "since she first got it").

I'm actually really curious what Oda's intentions were with the raid suit. Perhaps he thought it was unfair for Sanji to be so strong while everyone else around him had a Devil Fruit or used a sword. Or was a fishman, I guess. Oda has done weird stuff with his character like this before, like when he used knives against Wanze.

yfw Kin'emon is a better swordsman than Zoro

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>[海楼石入りのシューター】
>ウェイバーの一種。

>zorobrainlets

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OHNONONONONONO

Imagine being overwhelmed by Trafljob Loss' ""strength""

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This is just Kin'emon being impressed with Law's strength. Not that Law is stronger than himself.

You are making up “explanations” for the skates not being named “shooters” in the arc and ignoring that the bazooka is Wiper’s primary weapon.
It’s irrational to name your roller skates “shooter” when your primary weapon is a shooter. When the skates are introduced in the story they are named and their name wasn’t “shooter.”
You haven’t explained how Waiper could manipulate seastone like only a Wano Blacksmith can, other than just putting chunks into his bazooka barrel.
Wiper literally did not have the ability to “add seastone” to his skates, they just always had it,

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You did not argue against a single one of the arguments.
I'm sure you're smart enough to understand what I'm getting at right? Either admit that you do not know how Zoro knew about the seastone, or don't respond to me at all.

Law cuts bigger mountains than Zoro.

Zoro going for the skates after seeing Enel downed is his only option, he can’t find the shrapnel.
Zoro famously misunderstands things as a trope in the story, like when Koshiro taught him the secret to cutting steel.

why are people entertaining this troll again?

Hit and a miss.

Your argument is literally that wiper, a bazooka user, means “roller skates” when he says “my projectile launcher.”

You also missed addressing these points:
It’s very cut and dry the difference between “projectile launcher” and “roller skate.”

A-user, don't you think that if Oda was trying to make a joke here, he'd go with a... joke or something? Like, deliver a punchline?

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You are reaching so hard right now

Don’t you think if Oda meant the ice skates and not Wiper’s projectile launcher, he wouldn’t have Wiper say “I added seastone to my projectile launcher” (which Enel had just destroyed)? And which he just hit Enel with?

It’s a huge reach to claim that a guy with a gun saying he added special ammo to his gun actually meant he’s a Wano blacksmith and forged seastone into his skate blade.

Yes, because Shooter is the literal name of the waver skates he rides on. I don't understand why that is so hard to grasp. Wyper always refers to his weapon as 'Burn Bazooka'. Not once does he call it the name 'Shooter'.

Oda has used literal English words like that in the past but they always meant what they said.

My argument is that you're translating from a language you do not understand. All context is being missed on, the change from katakana to hiragana, the english word being used, etc.
If we take the words for what they mean literally, the story crumbles and doesn't make ANY sense at all. If we go forward knowing that Japanese is not easy and smooth in translation, then it makes sense that a SINGLE word might've been forgotten by Oda. And if we do that, then the entire story makes sense.

Why would Wyper have Seastone shrapnel when it's unbreakable? How would he be able to remove it from his seastone skates if they're made from seastone? How would he "add" them to his shooter, and when? Why would Enel be able to turn into lightning if he has seastone inside him? It simply doesn't make any sense, all because you're desperate in assuming that by Shooter, he meant his Bazooka.

>seastone screws in skates
>take some out, shove them in the barrel of bazooka
>burn bazooka!!!
>skates now easily break
This is the only way Wiper could manipulate seastone as he describes and “add” it to his “shooter (singular not plural).”

Luffy punches the skates and they don’t break them.
Enel easily shattered them because Enel unscrewed some bolts to put in his gun.

*Wyper
The skates are never referees to as shooter EVER except allegedly in this panel.

And the burn bazooka was able to melt the seastone?
It was able to lodge a giant screw inside Enel, which are way bigger than tiny shrapnel.
And Enel didn't notice the screw in his body at all, nor did he pay any attention to the screw not phasing through him?
No sense.

Same for the Burn Bazooka. It has always been called Burn Bazooka before this panel.

How would he “add” seastone to the blade of the skate such that it could affect Enel?
I’ve explained how he could add it to the bazooka.

>7.Wano

Wano is a race?

So that point neednt be addressed by either side.
The manipulation of seastone and how Oda almost always uses hirigana to mean the thing it says does though. It makes sense be able to remove the pins and stock them in the barrel of the bazooka, and then the skates easily break, so Zoro realizes what Wyper meant.
The idea that Wyper forged a seastone blade and meant roller skate instead of “shooter” is nonsensical.

Psst, user... don't tell anyone, but he made a joke.

Zoro fought a guy with those skates, and he couldn’t break them. Luffy punched them and they didn’t break.
Enel easily broke them, so Zoro realized that that’s where Wiper got the seastone to load his shooter.

Reaching.
Wyper was never shown adding anything to his bazooka.
Zoro did not know anything from the skates, so it makes no sense that he knew that they'd be able to break easily or not, all he saw was Enel breaking them. And then reaching for them saying "The seastone is here!". Again, for no reason at all.

Wyper was never shown adding anything to his skates.
I am not teaching to say Wiper meant what he said when he said he added seastone to his shooter.

Zoro already fought a guy with those skates, they don’t break easily. Enel can only break them because Wyper took seastone from the skate and added it to his shooter.
Also even when Luffy punches Wyper’s skates they don’t break.
Also when Wyper says “shooter” it’s not plural.

>when you can’t admit you were wrong.
Reread Zoro vs dogbro and Luffy vs Wyper.

I stopped watching when zao started, does franky ever become relevant to the story in a big way later on?

Zoro had already defeated someone with the skates at that point, so you are wrong. He learned his wind strike doing it.

>wiper noticeably drops his bazooka
>wiper wraps skates around enel
>enel very clearly trying to use his devil fruit powers
>he only starts using devil fruit powers after wiper gets off him

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Yes, because the explosion of powered up Seastone Bazooka has already taken hold of Enel. He has seastone shrapnel inside him and it just now is reacting in his body so he can't move.

He technically should be since he had vegapunk info plus his own to make super cyborg parts but he isn't some super special bloodline and it even though it's vegapunk tech it seem like outright humans can just go to infinity strength unlike tech which has limits

Law literally defeated Kin'emon without getting a single scratch it was likely a one shot. Kin is a joke compared to Law, Doffy, Zoro and Shutenmaru
He is Pica level at best

>enel has seastone shrapnel inside him

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You can’t reconcile that “shooter” most likely means “shooter” in common language and that Wyper’s main weapon was a bazooka.
You cant reconcile that you speedread Zoro’s prior fight where he defeated a user of those skates, since you keep claiming Zoro wasn’t familiar with them even though he was.
You can’t reconcile that the skates DIDNT nullify Luffy when he was hitting them, and that Luffys punches couldn’t break them in normal condition.
Wyper took some pins from his skates, compromising their integrity, and loaded them into his shooter.
It’s the only way he could “add seastone” in the timeframe between his fight with Luffy and his fight with Enel.

Nigger, are you serious?

When Japanese say “roller skates” is it singular or plural?

Let's change the topic.
Which arcs do you feel are underrated? I would have to go with Thriller Bark. Thriller Bark is probably the funniest arc in the series thus far. While also having some of the best fights and character moments. It's an easy top 10 for me. Why doesn't it get more love?

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>get blown out so let’s change the topic
Do Japanese people differentiate singular and plural nouns?

Punk Hazard, it was better than FI at least.

Luffy's pretty damn chad, but yeah Franky is up there.

???
I'm not the person you're arguing with. I'm just sick of seeing the same arguments over and over.

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twitter.com/ashitanogin/status/1129319340099231751?s=21
What do we think about the Film Z and Broly movie director taking over the anime in Wano? Good thing or bad thing?

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No, Sanji only has one thing but he does it right.
His kicks are stronger than any of Franky's weapons, though Franky is more useful for taking down lots of smaller enemies.
Also that was before Sanji got his raid suit, he should be even stronger now.

why are you assuming your arguing with a single person
Besides, your the one who's making baseless without real evidence to back you up
burden of proof is on you

Reminder that one piece is not a fighting manga and if you read it solely for the fights you’re retarded

Oda writes fights like he draws women. Same shape, slightly different features

Why are you assuming you are arguing with a single person (you aren’t)?
80% of the manga is written in hirigana. I’ve provided so far completel dishes and unrefuted arguments:
You can’t address these because when Wyper said he added seastone to his shooter, he meant it.

Davy Back Fight

The burden of proof is on you to show that Wyper didn’t mean he added seastone to his shooter since that’s what he tells Enel he did.
When Oda makes an English word phonetically in hirigana he means that word.

A little more complicated than that.

Very good thing. Chief Animation Director from WCI is staying too.

Either Luffy knocks out the enemy with his BIG PUNCH MOVE or gets knocked out
Everyone just uses their big super cool ultimate move unless they’re dealing with fodder

Sigh. Straw Hats vs Sentoumaru & Pacifista. Usopp vs Sugar.

The hype's real, Wano will be beautiful in color.

Exceptions that prove the rule
Last good fight was Oars vs the Straw Hats

Knocking someone out righteously is an invigorating experience.

I'd say Thriller Bark too, one of my favourites. It was hilarious, had awesome art, the theme was interesting, the villains (Moriah and Perona) were fun and had cool powers, it gave the main cast a great addition in Brook, pulled at heart strings, and resulted in a great climax with "Nothing happened"

I'm surprised many found it boring

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Based pretending to be retarded not realizing you actually are retarded poster

franky and brook chads report in

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Disagree on both lines.

Think about this logically
What your claiming is that wiper added seastone to his bazooka, shot enel and did no damage, then he proceeded to THROW AWAY THE BAZOOKA THAT HE JUST SUPPOSEDLY PUT SEASTONE IN, trapped enel in his skates which are ALSO seastone, and then proceeded to pointlessly tell enel that he put sea stone into the weapon he isn't using to trap him
How does that make sense in any shape or form

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So we can all agree that doffy was and will be the best warlord to ever exist yeah?

Caesar vs Luffy round one.
Caribou vs Robot Boss.
Brook vs Jora
Brook vs Big Mom
Bellamy vs Bartolomeo
Burgess vs Sabo in the Arena
Probably more I can’t recall.

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Once he shot the bazooka, the seastone exited it, so it wouldn’t make sense to shoot it again user.
Why do you keep avoiding the argument and trying to side track?

Pedro vs Tamago was pretty solid too

What the fuck are you doing?

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He's the hero we don't deserve

You don't get it, Zoro had fought previously with a skate user so he knew what to expect from Waiper, but he saw his skates get destroyed, meaning he reached for the broken skates knowing they had seastone in them.
Shooter.
Bazooka.
How can you not see it?

TB is okay, although I strongly dislike Absalom vs Sanji which affects my enjoyment of the middle part of the arc. His character went from gentleman with a thirsty side to creepy incel

DID YOU NOT NOTICE HOW ENEL IS COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY UNFAZED BY THE BAZOOKA AND TOOK NO DAMAGE FROM IT?
IN FACT HE EVEN USED HIS DEVIL FRUIT POWERS TO STOP WHAT IS SUPPOSEDLY A SEASTONE WEAPON
HOW DO YOU EVEN ADD SEASTONE AFFECTS TO A LASER BEAM ANYWAYS?

Wow that's great, if the WCI dudes are there too it should be fire.

He can he just won’t admit it.

Mad because he doesn't understand it.
Reread the entire fight, slowly this time.

this thread sucks, it's full of that Kineschizo

we need a clean one

Did you not notice how Luffy was unaffected when he punched the blades of the skate?
>how do you add to a laser
You need to reread, the burn bazooka uses combustion to the extreme, it’s a super shotgun if you stick stuff in the barrel as it will get blown out as hard as you did in this thread.

Best skelly
>fought one of the yonkou twice, one time by himself
>survived both encounters and even slept with the big bitch
>mature enough not to tell katakuri he slept with his mother
>copied the poneglyph, arguably a more important gain for the crew than the retrieval of some shitty cook, making him the most useful crew member during WCI
>rescued the bun after her su long tired her out
>smashed mother caramel's picture
>all around bad ass skeleton
And all that in just one arc.
The other Straw Hats need to step up. Looking at you especially Robin.

The page schizo-kun DOESN'T want you to know about!

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I’m not the one posting in all caps user.

What’s the point being made with this page?

>Robin spent 20 years of her life running away from getting caught
>still slower than Usopp and Nami
Why is she so shit?

that's not how it works at all
wiper is using dials

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Is he ever coming back?
All the major villains since the grand line have returned at some point except him.
Well, him and Foxy.

It blows out gas and flame just like how a real shotgun works; adapted for a fantasy manga with dials.
If you put stuff in the barrel, the gas and fire blowing out at explosive speed will also launch the stuff you loaded in there.
It’s launching fire and gas out of the barrel at high speed, it’s not a laser beam, you are retarded.

I understand that, but still, way too early. Just bear through it.

Yes. Enel will invade the world with his alien army

If the bazooka had launched sea stone then how come enel was able to stop the wipers shot and come out of it completely unharmed
How come he started using power immediate after getting shot at by the bazooka

that's head canon
wiper never once mentioned his bazooka EVER having a feature like that

>posts page describing gas explosion in the barrel
>I-it is a laser beam, not gas operated like a shotgun.

He does on the page you posted. Fire + Gas in the barrel is how firearms work.

I don't think firearms use gas at all man.

You don’t know much about them then. The M-16a2 is an example of a gas operated firearm.

but you make up new feature for the weapon that wipe never once said existed or used

Wyper added the feature when he says he added seastone to his shooter.

No. That's not at all the same thing. Gas-Operated firearms does not mean the gas causes the burst. It's merely a system to reload quickly.

he never once called his bazooka a shooter
you're also claiming that he pointlessly added sea stone to a weapon that he then threw away

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True, but the way the ammo flies is with a gas powered explosion.
Modern ammo explodes in the barrel (air and fire), and follows the path o least resistance, which is out the barrel. This is what pushes the bullet out.
Wyper’s gun uses “wind dial” instead of “oxidizer”

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He never once called his skates a “shooter.”
Before he added ammo to the burn bazooka, that’s what it was.
Once he added ammo it became a “shooter.”

He used the word "Shooter", written in Hiragana. Oda has been known to use hiragana when referring to the English word, so by Shooter it was obviously the Bazooka he referred to. He had added seastone in the form of shrapnel which struck on Enel and loged in him.
Read slower.

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>add seastone
>shoot seastone into enemy
>move to reject dial him
Why would he keep the bazooka after he expended his special ammo and it achieved its purpose. Also, Enel blasts it before that I’m pretty sure, so you are even lying to argue now.

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but shrapnel didn't get stuck on enel
enel used his devil fruit powers several times over after wiper shot him

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I still feel like a guy who can fly around freely at lightning speed AND predict everything that is going to happen should never EVER lose in a fight, unless he somehow get trapped/immobilized.

No, what the fuck? So the bullets are loaded with an explosive gas?
And what do you mean "the bullets follow the path of least resistance", are you fucking stupid?

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where is the scene where wiper supposedly shoot enel with the seastone

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You can even see Enel slowly losing control of his powers as he can slowly not fully transform his whole body. It makes sense.

Slow to take affect and didn’t last long because it’s miniscule and traveled through his body from the force of the explosion.
You keep avoiding the central points of why Wyper meant “shooter” when he said shooter, and how he’s not a Wano blacksmith so he can’t “add” seastone to his skate blade. At best he could take some of the little screws and use them as an ammo, which is clearly what he did as you still post in denial.

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that's not how seastone works
every time seastone has ever been used the effects where ALWAYS immediate

Anti-Kinemonfag blown out again. He cancers up the threads worse than anyone because he doesn’t contribute except to talk shit angrily, in the end showing he’s the actual low IQ schizo.

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Reread Alabasta when Luffy and Usopp talk as they hold the jail bars.
Reread Luffy vs Wyper where the skates have no immediate effect on Luffy when he contacts them.

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>You keep avoiding the central points of why Wyper meant “shooter” when he said shooter, and how he’s not a Wano blacksmith so he can’t “add” seastone to his skate blade. At best he could take some of the little screws and use them as an ammo, which is clearly what he did as you still post in denial.
the vivre cards already tell us where he got his skates from

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Luffy doesn’t collapse when he punches Wyper’s skates.

The entire basis of the schizo argument
>Oda used the word "shooter"

The entire basis of the mentally stable:
>Why would Zoro pick up the skate?
>When did Enel get hit by the seastone?
>Why did he show no signs of being hit?
>Why did Wyper point out his bazooka had seastone in it, while holding Enel with his Seastone Skates?
>Why did Enel specifically broke Wyper's skates?
>When exactly did Wyper load seastone into his bazooka?
>Why would he use the word "shooter" when referring to his burn bazooka, a word he has used time and time again to specifically mean his weapon?

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Luffy>Law>Jinbei/Sanji>Zoro>Franky>Brook>Chopper>Nami>Robin>Usopp

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When I argued Sabo was alive and totally refuted by opponents, they’d rely on the databooks too.

the effects are immediate

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If you are butthurted enough be trolling to actually create new thread then you are literally admitting defeat

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Alright, I'll come clean before the thread 404s.
I've been one of the Anons pretending to be on this insane guy's side, because I thought it was funny seeing everyone's reaction as well as his arguing for a completely senseless idea.
I'll probably keep doing this across threads as long as he shows up because it's fun.

You aren’t arguing with one poster.
Zoro picked up the skates and realized they were the source of the seastone that Wyper had loaded into his shooter, since he’d fought an opponent who relied on them just before, when he learned his air slash to win.
He changed the name of burn bazooka to “shooter” because before that point, it didn’t shoot projectiles.
Enel also broke Wyper’s Bazooka.
You still have not addressed:
You keep trying to frame the argument as “my opponent is crazy” and “it’s only because of the word shooter” even though I’ve clearly addressed every aspect of this fight and shown that Wyper added seastone to his shooter like he claimed.

>people think when Drake says Vegapunk was able to give the Pacifistas Kizaru's power he meant it literally
I hate this fanbase.

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I want someone to capture General Franky and bring it in to collect the bounty.

>Zoro picked up the skates and realized they were the source of the seastone that Wyper had loaded into his shooter, since he’d fought an opponent who relied on them just before
How does this thought process make any sense? Only an insane man would think this is logical. It's impossible to argue with you because you simply are not making any sense. It's all gibberish, like trying to speak to a seagull.

don't do that
From time to time I was posting Carrot to create butthurt but I eventually become a Carrotfag for real

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Other anons posted this as well, so perhaps it is you lacking mental clarity and being a speedreader.

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>still just keep saying “I can’t make sense of it!” instead of reciting the points made.

What was the point of taking a screenshot of a post that's already in this thread?

>The skates didn't nullify Luffy
>But they nullified Enel
Thus, meaning that he must've "added" and upgraded the skates with Seastone AFTER fighting Luffy, and before fighting Enel. So when he mentioned "adding seastone to his shooter", it meant his skates.
Yeah, that makes a lot more sense thanks for that post and thanks for proving me right.

Easy access.

Fuck off you illiterate spic, arguing with you is like arguing with someone saying that grass is blue and you are so stuck in your own autism that you refuse to accept manga facts no matter how much everyone tries. Everyone here sees believes you are retarded, shouldn't you be asking why?

Where did Wyper get the seastone to add to the skates?
What forging technique did he use?
I propose that he took the seastone screws out of his skates and used them as projectiles in his shooter.
You propose that he forged seastone skate blades between his fight with Luffy and Enel?
Get help.

>can't even explain his reasoning
ok ill take that win, good luck next time

Please, explain how Zoro knew the skates were loaded with seastone if no one had pointed this out before.
First, you mentioned Zoro was aloof so it made sense for him to reach out to the seastone because he's desperate.
Now you mention he reached out to the seastone because he had previously fought someone with skates. It still doesn't answer the question, how did he know the seastone was in the skates if no one had ever mentioned it?

I just like baiting him with random Kinémon matchups or calling his Shanks theory retarded. He lives in these threads so whenever i do it there's a guaranteed thread ruination.

Why are you like this?

Actually, I was the one to mention that the seastone was in his screws because Enel broke the skates easily.
Before that, you were arguing that the skates where all made of Seastone which of course didn't make sense exactly for the reasons you are pointing out.
Which is pretty weird considering how you just right now are acting as if you knew all along, when you didn't. And it's all in this thread.

Zoro fought a guy with seastone skates.
>they were strong
Wyper said he added seastone to his shooter.
>he barely/didn’t use their ability to fly vs Enel and they broke easy as shit.
So Zoro realized that the seastone originated in the skates, and was added to the shooter.
Earlier it was argued that Zoro had never seen the skates before, it’s fun to see you shamelessly move goalposts and squirm.

He's clinically insane.

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Haha y-yeah, imagine

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It's just because he'll get lost on the way.

It makes sense that the blades and screws are made of a concentration of seastone, which is why Luffy’s punch didn’t break them.
It doesn’t make sense Wyper could pull seastone out of his butt and forge it onto his skate.
If it was only the screws, wrapping Enel wouldn’t stop him from using his power in the first place, unless they pierced him from the bazooka blast.
So either way it’s still his shooter he “added” the seastone to.
are you unironically arguing that Wyper forged seastone screws and added them to his skates?
That requires a high level of ignorance and delusion.

>Zoro fought a guy with seastone skates.
Never happened.

please anything but the Bonney vore pasta

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>all the anons who disagree with me are one crazy user.
Kek.

Stupidity or autism would not explain it so i am inclined to believe. His mental state is becoming worse, saw him posting for years now but he has become unbearable the past few months.
Hopefully his parents takin him to a doctor so he can get the treatment he needs before he starts murdering people on the street with a katana he set on fire.

Spee D. Reader
Look real close retard.

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Everyone is wearing those skates.
Do all of them have seastone in them?
Where is the proof?

You honestly sound delusional if you believe you recognize anonymous posts over years, or even that only one user has said Wyper meant his bazooka when he said he added seastone to his shooter.
You are literally wrong about both things.

Please user I'm sure your family is worried.
I'm sure they want the best for you, listen to your family get some help.
They love you.

>I will move goalposts over and over and over and keep calling you crazy as a my argument tactic.
You are legit cancer.

BRUH I DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHY DIDN'T LUFFY FIGHT THEM??
I WOULD'VE BOPPED THEM AFTER SMASHING A CREATINE SHAKE BRO

You claim Zoro fought someone that was wearing seastone skates.
I'm not arguing for anything, I just want to see the proof. Where is the proof?

>Zoro never fought a guy with skates
>proved wrong
...
>everyone wears skates!
You are like a kid that keeps asking why no matter what.

You are the only one insane enough to do that. Please user, get help.

No, the argument is that Zoro had fought someone with SEASTONE skates.
Big difference.

Zoro had a realization after the Enel fight that the skates had it, as a culmination of his previous fight and Wyper saying he took seastone and loaded his shooter with it.
Can you explain how to load seastone onto the skates?
The hirigana used was “shooter,” and Oda usually means the word he does that with.

You are reframing the argument user, the skates are never differentiated from each other. They are drawn the same, Wypers skates have no added seastone drawn on them, and he tells us that he just added it to his “shooter.”
When Luffy fights Wyper, his punches don’t break the skates.
See:

Why do you do this user? Why do you pretend to have autism like the other guy? The thread is 404ing now so you can explain it to me.

Schizo-kun can you do me a favor> ctrl+f(you) and post results,
Genuinely curious how many you have gotten while repeating the same retarded question over and over and constantly getting proven wrong.

Okay but where is it mentioned that Zoro fought someone with seastone skates?

So far unrefuted and multiple anons agreeing in the thread. I guess your best tactic left is to claim victory lol.

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When we discover that the skates have seastone built into them because Zoro tells us so.
Wyper got the seastone for his shooter from the pins in his skate.
Now you explain your theory that he added seastone to his skates, explain how.

Same way he added the seastone screws to his bazooka.

Seastone nails are impossible for anyone but Wano to make.
And you're telling me that some random skyniggers managed to make seastones screws, which would be 100x harder?

Schizo user originally argued that Waiper knew how to secretly make seastone bullets and shrapnel which he added to the bazooka.
So he was even crazier back then.

He did that by loading them in the barrel and letting the explosion push them out of of the barrel though
So you don’t have an answer?

He switched the real screws with seastone screws.

I’ve been arguing that he’s not a Wano Smith and just used pieces he could fit into the bazooka barrel. Once someone pointed out the pins that made sense as the ammo.
I’ve been arguing that Wyper can’t manipulate seastone, so he can’t forge it into his skate blade, and literally means his shooter when he says it, since he just used it, three it down and explained it.

Where did he get seastone screws? Those skates and other devices are centuries old tech, the Waiver is in Norlands flashback even.
He can’t forge the screws, your idea is retarded and contradicts what Wyper directly says.

Why do you tell him what someone else said instead of answer his question?

But... you're arguing for the same thing. You say he took the pins from his skates and added them to his bazooka. You have already agreed that his skates must have seastone in them in some form.
I don't understand why you're arguing against yourself.

>unscrew pins
>drop them in cannon barrel
>detonate cannon
VS
>forge seastone screws that’s perfeectly match non seastone screws in the hour between his fight with Luffy and Enel
Just concede dude, holy shit.
Reminder that the actual schizo is the one who keeps posting it accusing other anons all thread, lol.

So where did he get the original pins? You're still arguing against yourself man.

He got the pins from his void century era hoverskates, and dropped them in the barrel of his bazooka.
It’s the only reasonable way he could do it, since he’s not Hitetsu from Wano.