I find it very hard to believe that Homura is the only person who ever fell in love with Madoka...

I find it very hard to believe that Homura is the only person who ever fell in love with Madoka. She has the sort of personality that easily draws people in. Calming and soothing, yet sexy. She's the best of both worlds.

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Homura's not the only one that fell in love with Madoka she just killed all the others.

They probably did but were too scared to ask her out.

Why would people be scared to ask her out?

Homura doesn't really "love" Madoka, she is just obsessed with her.
Whatever feelings she has are most certainly not love.

I think the real issue is that Madoka died young in most time lines, and when she finally survived she "disappeared".

There were probably tons of secret admirers for her at school

Best friend is a kind of love, but it's pretty ambiguous if Homura developed true love for Madoka.
Possible considering what she went through, but obsession would still play a big role.

You've never been scared of asking out an attractive seemingly perfect member of the opposite sex?

I think that's splitting hairs. Love doesn't cease to be love just because it's selfish or deranged.

>Madoka
>attractive
>seemingly perfect

This is official art.

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>Homura doesn't really "love" Madoka

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Her foot though.

It's actually Love user. It's time to come out of denial.

It's pure sexual lust.

fpbp

But seriously, Madoka as Meduka gets bitches. She isn't confident enough in herself uncontracted to turn on the charm.

Homura's the only one alpha enough to claim Madoka though.

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Yes. She's beautiful.
Official art btw

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Homura's a beta and Madoka isn't interested in her like that.

To suffer as Homura had as much as she did for one person is indicative that she cares for Madoka as a person.
And also to do something for another and deny yourself happiness with them isn't lust.

Wasn't she a dfc in the tv show?

>Madoka
>flat
looks like someone didn't watch the OP

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Homura was purposefully turning Madoka into an insecure pussy she could dominate.
That backfired so she became a witch to get her fuckdoll back.

Is there any way their relationship could work?

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It can never work and is doomed to fail

Bondage.

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absolutely not
they are not compatible as lovers

Nope, Homura is mentally ill and will never be on equal terms with Madoka, always putting her on an unreachable pedestal above everything else.

Sayaka might have fallen for her. She is the one who bails Madoka's ass out originally.

We still never actually see Sayaka make her wish.

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Why? They're incompatible due to their terrible circumstances, not fundamental personality differences.

>We still never actually see Sayaka make her wish.
>pic

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Come on, it’s been enough time.

This. They get along very well in the first few loops.

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>Madoka does this with guys at school
>gets surprised when guys fall for her
Dumb bitch.

Rape. The question is, who rapes whom?

If Madoka is the dominant partner and reigns in Homura's autism.

Homura puts her on an impossibly high pedestal and is also extremely obsessed with her. This does not bode well. Because of this, they will never be equals in a relationship, which spells misery.

Madoka has the perfect sized tits, prove me wrong

I can't. I absolutely agree with you.
She's beautiful from head to toe.

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Too small. Mami is the perfect one.

>Hey the person you love is going to die, here's a way to stop it
>Okay I'll do it
>Wow, obsessed much?

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That's very dishonest of you to argue like that.

She looks too thicc and shortstack-y in this picture though. In the show she was very petite and slender.

Yeah, that official art is extremely off-model.

It's just hard to justify calling her "obsession" unhealthy when it's the only thing keeping both of them alive.

It becomes unhealthy in times of peace.

>times of peace
Which we don't get to see. Your headcanon that they wouldn't work together is just as flimsy as mine that they would.

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Given how touchy-feely Sayaka was towards Madoka, I would not be surprised if there was something more there.

fair enough

It wasn't just friendship...
it was BEST FRIENSHIP!

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>friendzones both Sayaka and Homura
Heartbreakers need to burn.

have sex

Who, me? Why can't I be mad at Madoka for hurting both Homura and Sayaka?

have sex

I have.

wrong

I hope Madoka breaks your heart next. Won't be so SJW then, will you?

only an incel thinks madoka is a heartbreaker

>Imagine having the hots for this pure, gentle and cute girl
>gets friendzoned by her
Being Hameru is suffering
fpbp btw

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I love her so much

>people fall in love with her
>she likes them as a friend
>this breaks their heart

You don't have to be some narcissist who jumps from one relationship to another to be a heartbreaker. She's just a benign version of one.

yet you seem to fault Madoka for "friendzoning" Homura

have sex

No one is under any obligation to act to another's benefit under any circumstance. It is impossible for someone to be responsible for the absence of an action. You fucking statist.

>No one is under any obligation to act to another's benefit under any circumstance.

Tell that to the judge if you see someone dying from an injury and walk away despite being the only person present.

>you're obligated to return the feelings of someone in love with you

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What kind of non-sequitir is this
I'm literally talking about something like finding someone injured and on the verge of death in a secluded area and walking away without telling anyone. Do you think the judge would go "welp, no one is obligated to act to another's benefit anyway"?

This doesn't have anything to do with Madoka or Homura, I'm speaking literally here. Stop reading too much into my posts, negro.

But weren't we just talking about Madoka? Isn't what this whole conversation is about?

You do realize that in the U.S. you are literally under no legal obligation to help anyone at all unless you owe them a duty of care due to a special relationship, are responsible for creating the dangerous situation, or already initiated a rescue, don't you? You are literally within your rights to stand there and watch someone drowning when all you would have to do is reach down a hand to save them and there would be no legal repercussions at all. The fact that you seem unable to even comprehend such a thing is why I called you a statist.

She's a typical nice girl protagonist, cute and likable but nothing special. Homura is obsessed with her because Homura is a loser.

Only by Madoka taking the dominant role, to suppress Homura's protecc autism.

Jesus H. Christ you're not even a Human Being are you?

I'm flattered that you think I'm personally responsible for the entirety of United States legal jurisprudence but unfortunately I didn't make that rule or any other. It's also funny how you're intermixing the concepts of moral responsibility and legal duty. Because it's impossible for you to think of doing something yourself unless the state instructs you that you have to do it at risk of criminal punishment, right? How do those boots taste, by the way?

No user, your waifu will not love you. Time to cease your delusions.

This. Homura is a fucking creep that became disgustingly attached to the only person that ever offered her friendship.

>Homura is a loser
>Homura is a fucking creep
This opinion is so silly you people must only have it for the sake of edgy contrarianism.

>She's a typical nice girl
t. speedwatcher

>implying she is not
Imagine being this blind

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>Gretchen in the background

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NanakaxSayaka is my new crack ship.

But she puts her on a pedestal from above. Like an old guy (e.g. a 25-30 year old) wiving up a 14-18 year old girl. And Homura is how old after having travelled back through time so often? 22? So while she's worshipping her, she is doing so from the position of queen. Taking her princess, who is rightfully hers. The only people who talk about "muh pedastal" here are unironically jealous 14 year old beta males who have the virgin princess (Madoka) abducted by the queen (Homura) in front of their eyes.

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Well, she definitely creeped Madoka out at the end if rebellion

I think Homura should be around 26 by the time of the final loop. Also, that princess is going to peg the queen.

I think she's really underrated. Nobody seems to understand the depth of her character, and seems to just write her off as a "Mary Sue," or a "plot device," or "2 dimensional," or otherwise underwritten, which couldn't be further from the truth. She's up there with Homura as the best written character in the series.

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The problem with Madoka is that she has the self confidence of a scared mouse. Even if she is cute and has a wonderful personality, she doesn't act like it. For boys around her age, presentation is everything.

Explain to me, someone who's watched both the sub and dubbed version of the series how the fuck Madoka herself is a deep character.

Madoka is cute I guess but she looks like a kid
Someone like Mami-san or Sayaka-chan is the ideal woman

I'll write you a little bit. Why not.

Madoka is a girl ruled by her emotions. She's torn between the two moral goods she values most: happiness with the people she loves, and duty to the good of others. These two values are irreconcilable, as duty to others often means leaving your happiness behind (which is very much the case in the series). Madoka attempts to straddle these two values throughout the series, but feels guilty about it because she thinks it just makes her a burden. By getting halfway involved but doing nothing substantial to help the situation, she just becomes a liability to others. However, she recognizes that by getting fully involved, she dooming herself to a fate she doesn't want. Depending on the situation, she'll swing from one value or the other, taken on by her own emotional roller coaster. Whether it be swearing off megucas after Mami's death, or jumping at the opportunity to save Sayaka after she sees how far she's fallen. In the end though, she finds out about the true plight of the magical girl, and believes it is her moral duty as someone who can help to right that situation. She believed such an action to be necessary, that it was right to do it, despite that she would leave behind everything that makes her happy. This is the true nature of sacrifice.

On top of this, you have her whole self-confidence issue. She holds herself to a completely different standard to other people. Despite others caring about her and loving her, she believes herself to be useless. She believes she has no talents, no skills, not intelligent - nothing useful for anybody. Thus she believes that the only way for her live to have value is when its in service to the betterment of others.

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>someone you just met grabs you like this
What do?

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Get scared shitless, try to hold yourself together, and hope you're not getting sexually assaulted by this mega creep.
And also squeak like a cute scared bunny.

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Well, if she looks like Homura I'd let her do quite a bit.

We never "hear" her wish, ya happy faglord?

Please, Madoka's panties were probably soaked from almost getting raped by the dark, handsome and a bit unhinged new classmate. That's how romance between two girls work.

So flip flopping on a whim for each situation and low self esteem makes a character deep? That pretty much an excuse for a character have no agency and just to do things because the plot demands it at certain points in time.

What's your point, it's obvious what she wished for

She is kind of plot device-y, at least in the sense that she's there so Homura doesn't give up. I agree she is underrated though.

Homura literally lives rent free on their heads.

No, not if the plot exists in service of characterization, which PMMM's does. Things happen "as the plot demands," because the plot demands an interesting resolution for Madoka's character struggle.

Correlation does not equal causation. We don't hear the wish, we don't know the wish.

That doesn't tell me what your point is.

She is not.

For a short 12 episode series? She's absolutely one.

That's not the whole story, though. It's hard to imagine you didn't get the gist of her character after watching the show twice.
Almost like you didn't really pay attention, or really watch it at all.

It quite explicitly does.

This has got to be bait.

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Ok.

There is a jojo level of contortion in this pose
I'll be honest with you, I love Madoka way more than I should. It's weird for me, I have never loved an anime character so much.

me madoka

Demand she take responsibility as I am now ruined for marriage.

I don't see anything wrong with that picture. It looks great.