I just watched Angel's egg.
Now I feel hollow inside.
I just watched Angel's egg
So, just like the egg?
Nothin personel kid
Image living in an empty and dying world like that
This movie is what made me understand what "dying world" really means, more than Casshern Sins or any other anime with this concept
wow that'd be pretty boring
okay I'm done imagining it
>boring
It's actually dreadful
I thought he was Jesus when I first watched the movie.
Angels egg is the dark souls of anime :DDDDDD
But He is
Babby's first arthouse.
The music is really nice, and you can make about 300 different desktop backgrounds from it
Oh well, I guess I'm not as dumb as I thought I was.
I gave up and have come to treat it like a dream sequence.
Now watch Casshern sins
>Made by Studio Deen
I can't believe this, Deen should be a bigger studio by now, considering this was from 1985.
Now Deen only makes QUALITY anime.
But he isn't, he breaks the egg causing the girl to despair and die.
Which then results in a shit ton of new eggs spawning and the girl becoming a statue on the giant eye while he is still running around having achieved nothing.
God I love this movie
no, mostly just boring, stop romanticizing it
he is Jesus, who fucked with the teachings of the Old Testament and ultimately achieved nothing
I found and bought a physical dvd copy (region 2) of it at a half price books. Was this a good buy?
I'm talking about my subjective experience with this thought experiment, rockbrain
It's fucking dreadful to know existence itself is dying
Carrying a cross in his shoulders clearly indicates that he's Jesus Christ. The interesting thing is that the cross and the eye thingy have this technology vibe. I honestly thing he's just a symbol for the nihilism that technology brings with it. We start manipulating nature and feel like gods while doing so until we realize there's no god and we become a sad fucker who destroys little children's dreams.
>he breaks the egg
So Jesus exactly
Except there's nothing christlike in how he acts and the only point you could argue is that he's carrying a cross.
You have to think about "What about Jesus if God had abandoned the world/forgotten the world whilst the flood"
>Carrying a cross in his shoulders clearly indicates that he's Jesus Christ.
Do you even understand the basic meaning of the cross in christian theology/philosophy?
I'd argue that that's what most disqualifies him from being Jesus. By putting the desire to "know" over believe the guy destroys the egg to look if there's something inside. It's a direct contrast between the girl and the guy.
Though that reading is mostly informed by pic related and following making me think of "The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church"
Yes, it's the symbol for carrying the burden of life. I see it as the crhistian archetype of a man that carries his burden has become cynical.
Anime Jesus doesn't break the egg because he wants to know what's inside, He does it as a means to free to girl from whatever is holding her back (which backfires)
Good, watch Bergman's Winter Light now.
>He does it as a means to free to girl from whatever is holding her back (which backfires)
At the end we see pic related though while the guy is still left behind on the capsized ark. And if this symbology is anything to go by her caring for the egg was what mattered.
>Anime Jesus doesn't break the egg because he wants to know what's inside
My reading is that he isn't Jesus but a man who is the pov of the viewers who can't believe or lost faith. Notice also how the "cross" is very technological, partially looks like a gun and we first see him walking next to tanks.
The man is a Christ-like figure, he carries cross on his back and has bandages on his hands. He is the girls companion and protector in a violent, illusory world, and bringing to fruition what she couldn't have done on her own. He uses the crucifix to do this, in reference to Matthew 16:24 He actually explains his motives for breaking the egg: Without opening it, one may never realize the potential of whats inside. He overcame her selfish tendency to keep the egg(gospel seed) hidden, by wooing her companionship and trust. This is probably an allusion to "walking in Christ" or "living by the Spirit of Christ".
>an allusion to "walking in Christ" or "living by the Spirit of Christ".
There you lost me
In the end the girl appears as part of the Godhead (giant floating eye) in a child-like form rather than in an adult form as are many of the other statues. She holds the egg in a way which looks like she's pregnant, which follows with the analogies above in which the gospel seed grows inside of a person, taking root in their soul, eventually "birthing" fruit, several times what was sown.(Mathew 13:23)
The egg was brought to life as a result of being "wooed" by the Christ-man, and then once it was fully released, she charged directly after the Christ on the "narrow path" (Matthew 7:13,14)to spiritual maturity. The metaphor is equivalent to a maturing plant producing heads of grain, but Oshii adapted Yeshua's parable to the production of eggs instead of seeds.
>Yeshua
user, who are you
Jesus is just an English version of the Greek version of the Hebrew name (Yeshua) for the Messiah
y'all got OSHII'D
I'm asking about you, user
This film is the antithesis to plotfaggorty
I always read it as oishii. So I remember his name as "Protecting the tasty"
themefaggotry must be exposed for the shallow wankery it is
character > theme > plot
character is expressed through actions and reactions to unfolding events, aka plot
themes are defined through characterization
Only anime to ever scare me. Also one of the few to make me feel like I got punched in the gut. Whatever it did, it did it well.
>read tenshi no drop
wtf why did they need an angel's egg lewd doujinshi?? what do now?
>what do now
Probably have to end your own life to save the honor of your family.
God, I want marry her.
Why?
If someone said he "got" the movie, obvious imagery aside, on his first watch or without reading up on it I wouldn't believe him
It is not about getting it, it is about feeling it. The creator has stated he does not know the meaning of the work, meaning there is no inherent point being made. This is a zen style of art work, one that is more blank canvas than anything else, the style leaves no room for the imagination but what it means does. My first watch had me feeling an almost dizzying array of emotions that no other animation, Japanese or otherwise, had ever instilled in me. My experience was unique but not without its legitimacy. Getting it on the first watch does not require knowledge or even intelligence but a connection to the images being shown that is personal and impossible to train for.
nah, it's a great concept so I'll keep enjoying it
Imagine
Me too
What were the shadow fish thing?
Fish being a symbol of Jesus, I personally think the most plausible take on the scene is how man perverts the teaching of God. They don't partake of the fish, they violently hunt it to extinction and continue to chase its intangible form in a mockery of it's true meaning. Another take is that there never was any fish, and men chase it in a futile effort even though they can never reach enlightenment, i.e. a crisis of faith by Oshii.
>that is personal and impossible to train for.
>training to watch this, of all things
Is this your first time experiencing any form of art? You're like an asshole who picks up Finnegan's Wake and waves it around shouting how smart it is.
user how did you get a picture of my desktop?