Feels good seeing Part 5 go so strong.
Fuck everyone shitting on it during the Clash and Talking Head fight.
Feels good seeing Part 5 go so strong
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Can we just skip to part 6 already
There is no way they can redeem the underwhelming finale.
Aside from part 3 Jojo keeps getting better desu
the whole space virus thing hits way too close to midichlorians
What's it like to be as retarded as you are? Didn't we just have a thread dispelling this retardation yesterday?
>m-muh punch ghosts...w-where are muh ghost punchies....
>you can never have any decent explanation or lore to anything because muh prequels
Why doesent giorno just turn the moss into a snake and send it after cioccolata
They should just skip over the alien souls part desu. I think removing that would make the last arc much better. I don't really have a problem with most of it but that one thing is pretty stupid.
>an ending that doesn't rely on an "I win" arrow? Fuck outta here
because the moss is already a living thing, you stupid fuck
I think user like you should just grow brains instead of wanting things that flare your autism cut
>f-f-fucking GER....fucking b-bullshit....Diavolo did nothing wrong.....
yikes
no its not its a part of his stand
Try to defend that rushed anticlimatic piece of shit of an ending. Go on.
sorry, I forgot talking sense was a waste of time and should have just called you a stupid fuck without any explanation
very funny, be remember to go get oiled from your wizard salt golem or you crumble
>rushed
cool video-game development buzzword, retard. Care to actually present an argument to be argued against, or do you just wanna kick and scream for 500 replies?
that's some pretty autistic gibberish, translate?
Reqiuem arrow makes it the worst finale in the series
>1 post a minute
yikes dude, its just a coloring book
That would be part 4's finale, which barely felt like an end
between Crazy Diamond's rules being fudged and the plain retarded way Bites the Dust was written as an ability makes it utter crap and one of the reasons why part 4 is worst part
>its just a coloring book
user confirmed for manga collection he self-colors
Did Giorno ever create a Golden poison frog? It is powerful enough to kill 100 people, so just make some of them i'n rome and let them go rampage and one bite will kill diavolo
>n-no your part is the worst!
Cringeworhty insecurity. At least it had a proper finale with a fight utilising many techniques and powers, not a "i win" arrow. Kys part5fag
>n-no your part is the worst!
>your part
imagine identifying yourself with a manga part, yikes
good to know I could sniff out a part 4 retard ez pz though
That's just a coincidence, the Part 5 manga ended the month before Phantom Menace premiered
How do you have Giorno fight Diavolo without just getting donut'd. He'd job horribly
>character development
>nah fuck that shit lets bring up fights of the week from 3
yikes dude, imagine defending this shit
You know Ghaccio? It means ice in Italian, and Ghaccio the character has an ice related stand. But with others such as Cioccolata, it isn't that clear-cut. With a name like Cioccolata, you'd probably think that he has a chocolate stand, right? Wrong. Despite his name, Cioccolata's stand is mold related. . . Why though?! If that's the case then why isn’t his name "Muffo" or "Fungo"?! Are you fucking kidding me?! HIS ABILITY INVOLVES GREEN FUNGUS SO WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU NAME HIM AFTER CHOCOLATE?! WHAT THE FUCK DOES CHOCOLATE HAVE TO DO WITH KILLER MOLD?! This shit pisses me off so much! Araki, you goddamn hack!
>implying part 4 has character development
>implying part 4 isn't monster of the week nonsense 90% of the time
im laffin, part 4 retards never change
they're just being brain-dead, the new anime autistic wants to watch a character struggle against impossible odds and somehow come out on top
>just cuz
instead of having something set-up and pay off to bring the protagonist to the villain's level
Did manga do it better?
the manga does most things better
What I wouldn't give for any part to receive a full adaptation with the pure flair of the Stardust Crusaders OVA. That thing was something worth remembering unlike these motion manga.
>everyone who criticizes the finale is a brainlet who hates the finale because it doesn’t rely on a braindead overpowered punchgh-
>decent explanation
>decent
same, even the 2001 OVA tops the anime sometimes and that thing had its own wonky moments
>NO NO! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 18 CHAPTERS OF STAND-OFF! ARAKIIIIIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You're right, its more than decent.
We want to see the protagonists strategize instead of using a powerup that was only introduced because Araki was lazy.
>NO NO! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 18 CHAPTERS OF STAND-OFF! ARAKIIIIIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
When did anybody say that.
It’s stupid.
>i-i w-want strategeee....
>an entire arc filled with cooperation between all living protagonists trying to obtain the arrow
>nO! NO! No!!! I want GHOST PUNCHIES!!!!
its pretty easy to read between the lines when it comes to actual retards. Instead of a long fight that goes on too long, you got a chase segment instead and it made all the kids who wanted another part 3 end cry
Which chapter does this happen? I've read vento aureo years ago when there were only shitty scans, and thought that was just a bad translation.
>an entire arc filled with cooperation between all living protagonists trying to obtain the arrow
There is some strategy used, but there are also some stupid moments. The strategy that is there doesn’t take away from the fact that the plot only went in this direction because it took less effort to write than the alternative.
>nO! NO! No!!! I want GHOST PUNCHIES!!!!
Nobody says that.
towards the end of Requiem's arc, the last step of its ability is to draw out inter-dimensional creatures within living things on Earth. The whole point is that Requiem's abilities are based around how the arrow functions though, so it makes perfect sense unless you're too retarded to understand something that doesn't have paragraphs of exposition dedicated to it
No, people wanted Araki to actually come up with a way to defeat King Crimson without resorting to a powerup.
>There is some strategy used
could have just stopped here instead of writhing around like a tard, user. Your meme is going to die once the anime gets that far anyway
>characters start turning into aliens
>must be a translation error
"people" (retards) wanted something that was never going to be. The whole point of the second half was to find a way to over come KC because he's invincible
Had Araki done what you so wish for, you would have just claimed it was a cop out anyway, there's no pleasing shounen bandwagon faggots
>could have just stopped here instead of writhing around like a tard
Could’ve kept reading so that you could respond with an actual argument.
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It makes sense in the sense that I guess the interdimensional beings have souls too that were switched but it's just an added complication that really serves no purpose and never amounts to anything. These interdimensional beings never show up or are mentioned again and I think it's assumed in the part that the soul switch doesn't have that far of a range so why would it affect things in different dimensions?
why did I know the second I saw that scene that animeonlies were going to start talking shit about how muh space virus ruined jojo
why would I argue with a retard throwing a tantrum because a manga didn't end how he wanted it to?
These interdimensional beings never show up or are mentioned again
they're just stands over-coming their hosts who cannot handle them
>The whole point of the second half was to find a way to over come KC because he's invincible
KC isn’t invincible, and seeing the team come up with a strategy to beat it would be far more satisfying than Giorno making his own stand even more broken.
>Had Araki done what you so wish for, you would have just claimed it was a cop out anyway
No, I would like it.
because anime/manga has garnered a collection of undesirable normalfags who don't fit in with other normalfags post-2011 when memes began to become mainstream
Also why would it cause people to change appearance? The soul switching as it started basically just switched minds/personalities. Trish's body didn't start growing a dick because Mista's soul was in the body. The guy that gets his soul switched with his dog doesn't grow fur.
The page I posted shows it happening with someone with no stand. And if that was what Araki intended he would have done it differently. That isn't what's happening. It's either aliens or beings from other dimensions coming in.
when I first read the manga I didn't really care about Abba and knew he was going to die at some point so beyond the shock of how quick it happened I didn't feel anything for his death.
The anime on the other hand nailed it perfectly with the voice acting and overall direction to the point where it actually made me sad even though I had read it multiple times
TLDR: no
>KC isn’t invincible
so you're just ignoring what's told to you in the manga for the sake of your
>""argument""
thats pretty autistic, user. How am I supposed to "argue" when I can't even use the manga as a source without you disregarding it for your own meta temper-tantrum?
I’m simply criticizing the part as well as the people who consider it immune from criticism. You’re the one who’s been acting like an immature child.
Really wish writers could leave well enough alone and just leave magic as magic.
>The page I posted shows it happening with someone with no stand
way to miss the point, Requiem is drawing out potential stands just like the arrow does
the reveal being that stands are far more than they're made out to be in previous parts, which is why rogue stands like Cheap Trick can exist
>i-im just b-being a c-critic!
a poor one, like most retard Yea Forumsnon. You didn't like the end so you think its bad, which is called an opinion. A really shitty opinion
You’re ignoring the actual facts shown in the manga just because some characters call KC invincible.
it's still pretty much magic and never comes up again in later parts
the anime really does bring out those single digit IQ fags, huh?
Space virus =/= stands
Care to post those "facts"? Or did the wiki not give you enough info to actually use in an argument?
inb4 fanfiction about how user thinks part 5 should have ended
Stop being insufferable
If that was what was intended then it's communicated poorly. Both to the audience by what's happening and by the characters in the story. But then how do you explain Polnareff/Coco Jumbo? Both of them have stands already (though Pol's is going berserk) so why would Coco's body start manifesting some crab thing?
What would a chocolate stand be like anyway?
its just the truth, the anime is mainly still frames with characters shifting their positions as "animation"
deal with it
still superior the manga
So I guess you really can’t accept any criticism of Jojo.
King Crimson can only erase a limited amount of time.
So are stands space aliens or...?
>If that was what was intended then it's communicated poorly
>too retarded to understand something that doesn't have paragraphs of exposition dedicated to it
.>But then how do you explain Polnareff/Coco Jumbo? Both of them have stands already (though Pol's is going berserk) so why would Coco's body start manifesting some crab thing?
Because Polnareff is Coco Jumbo at that point, which means the turtle has no stand since the turtle's soul is elsewhere and Polnareff no longer has one
WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM YOU FUCKING SHIT?
There shouldn’t be a space virus explanation at all.
to the manga*
fans of the dogshit adaption can't even properly defend it, since its impossible to defend at all
I mean, the whole explanation was really weird, I thought it was something else instead of ay lmaos
>So I guess you really can’t accept any criticism of Jojo.
not from a retard, no
>King Crimson can only erase a limited amount of time.
>retard actually thinks 10 seconds is not a huge amount of time to be manipulating
Except the space virus is there to explain how the arrows function, not the origin of stands themselves
learn reading comprehension
Something being retarded and not making sense doesn't mean it's just 2deep4u. Pol's stand was already roaming around doing shit so what was the stand coming through from Coco's body then? Unless you're saying that Polnareff had another latent stand inside him that was coming out, which I would think goes against the rules of stands. You can have evolutions of stands but not 2 completely different stands. Even if SCR wasn't tied to him anymore it's still his stand and I wouldn't think stabbing him with an arrow at that point would give him another stand.
>not from a retard, no
Calling me names doesn’t make my criticism invalid.
>>retard actually thinks 10 seconds is not a huge amount of time to be manipulating
It is a huge amount of time, but not an unlimited amount of time.
These past ~9 episodes have been shit though. Fights with pretty much just talking and asspull ends, and focus on characters that we don't care much about.
Also it's been almost 30 episodes and I as the viewer feel almost no attachment to the main characters aside from Giorno and Bucciarati. Abbacchio's death just fell flat with his sob backstory that we forgot about over time; Narancia and Mista are just kind of there; Trish and Fugo are really forgettable.
Part 3 felt much more character-driven since we continually followed Jotaro and the gang's journey to reach Dio, but this part 5 feels more story-driven and the characters don't feel as deep.
Maybe you should get some reading comprehension since I never said that they were the origin of all stands.
What an obnoxious snob. Keep crying, anime is superior
>Im not retarded, ITS retarded!
key sign of someone who has a learning disability
dont worry about it, user, just go back to the DBS thread. No need to strain yourself over this
>f-fucking name caller...
really? maybe get some criticism worth listening to
From your Olympic level mental gymnastics you're more the kind of person that would be able to enjoy DBS than me. And the fact that you haven't addressed what I said in that post just shows that you have no argument I guess.
then there shouldn't be an issue at all, retard
the cry baby anime fans are upset because they think the space virus creates the stand itself
might as well just upgrade snob to elitist and go full-on upset pleb mode. the anime is ass and you just posted a good example of something that looks worse in the anime
though most things look worse in the anime
I have been giving valid criticism, but you called it invalid because you can call me names. I’ve responded to your arguments with proper arguments of my own, including in that very post.
It isn't worth addressing, you're finding problems in nothing to keep this "argument" going because its all about having the last word so you dont have to think about it later when you're trying to sleep
I dont care that you're too dumb for part 5, that just means you'll be filtered from discussion sooner or later
>then there shouldn't be an issue at all, retard
It’s still an issue.
>f-fucking name caller....i make good points..i do!
really? x2 "me no like how thing happen" isnt valid criticism, its school yard banter
Maybe if you're retarded, sorry about that
Answer this question: Do you think Polnareff is capable of gaining a new stand when Silver Chariot isn't tied to his body anymore? Because that's the only way that your theory of those monster things being stands makes sense.
>isnt valid criticism, its school yard banter
Ironic coming from someone who continues ignoring my actual points.
Once again, anyone with a negative opinion is dismissed as a retard.
Oh and also, I should have read a little further because Trish/Mista starts changing like this too and she says everyone else will too. So their stands are coming through as monsters while they're still able to use them. Do you still think your theory makes sense?
Why not? Polnareff himself says he is no longer a stand user and he definitely doesn't obtain Coco Jumbo's stand in the soul switch
>theory
yeah, right
Anime is fine and better just by the virtue of being animated and faithful. Cope
Your points are retarded and boil down to
>mommy how come the men didn't use their super powers to win instead of getting better ones???
yes. Cried throughout the whole episode. Pic related is where I broke down
there's nothing about what you're saying that's a negative opinion though, you're just a retard being willfully ignorant
The space virus puts your body into a state where you either die horribly, or evolve and develop a stand. It really shouldn't be an issue unless you're a retard trying to draw midichlorian comparisons
You’re intentionally misrepresenting my points in order to make them sound stupid.
see
And stands are described as manifestations of your soul. If you could get more than one stand Kira may have gotten one in part 4 instead of just a new ability. Or Giorno would have gotten a new stand when he was stabbed by the arrow in the beginning of part 5. People can't have 2 stands. They can evolve, but they can't have two. SC is still Pol's stand even if it's not tied to him at the moment. And all the other characters that can still use their stands while this is happening to them is more evidence that your theory makes no sense.
>animated and faithful
its barely animated, and who cares if its faithful
Its faithfulness is being used as an excuse as to why most shots are completely still redrawn manga panels that just pan slowly
Fuck off.
>you're just a retard being willfully ignorant
No because I’m actually aware of canon.
>It really shouldn't be an issue unless you're a retard
Stop dismissing everyone with negative opinions as a retard.
hence
>boils down to
retard. You dress up your criticism to make it sound intelligent, but its not
you conceded your entire point when you admitted there was strategy involved in obtaining the arrow and therefore involved in defeating KC and Diavolo
He's right. Part 3 was a step down in every sense.
you just seem to be in this thread just to bitch and whine, honestly
typical retardposter
so is this the part where I point out that the parasitic stands that already exist in the manga exist on top of user's own stands?
Anubis possessed and took control of Polnareff and Chariot, Rohan had Heaven's Door but was also Cheap Trick's user
WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM?! MY ANGER IS COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED!
>hence, boils down to
You’re not boiling it down, you’re misrepresenting it.
>you conceded your entire point when you admitted there was strategy involved in obtaining the arrow and therefore involved in defeating KC and Diavolo
I never said that there was no strategy involved. My point is that instead of Araki making a strategy to overcome the problem that the protagonists are faced with, he introduces a powerup to make things easier.
I’m here to speak out against the mentality of dismissing all criticism as stupid.
which is a living thing
>You’re not boiling it down, you’re misrepresenting it
Im removing the facade you're desperate to keep up
>I never said that there was no strategy involved
that was your entire "valid criticism" though. You wanted the characters to collaborate and defeat King Crimson without the arrow because apparently that took no strategy. Don't back pedal.
>My point is that instead of Araki making a strategy to overcome the problem that the protagonists are faced with, he introduces a powerup to make things easier.
oh no, not the major plot point that has existed for volumes
this is retarded, user
It isnt all criticism, its just the retarded criticism. Obviously you agree with the retarded criticism otherwise you wouldn't be sticking your neck out for it
>first say it's drawing out stands from everyone
>then say that no, they're parasitic stands
Parasitic stands still need to manifest in someone. Rohan didn't get shot with the arrow and manifest Cheap Trick, it was transferred to him from someone else. So you're saying that everyone in the vicinity of SCR is manifesting parasitic stands, even people who already have stands, but Polnareff, despite seeming to have an idea of what's going on, avoids calling them stands for some reason.
you realize mangaka have weekly deadlines for chapters, right?
Can someone make a stitch of this?
MOSHIMOSHI!
>Parasitic stands still need to manifest in someone. Rohan didn't get shot with the arrow and manifest Cheap Trick, it was transferred to him from someone else.
and now its from "somewhere" else
>So you're saying that everyone in the vicinity of SCR is manifesting parasitic stands, even people who already have stands, but Polnareff, despite seeming to have an idea of what's going on, avoids calling them stands for some reason.
so now you're arguing that Polnareff should know better?
>Im removing the facade you're desperate to keep up
>anyone who criticizes the things that I like is a retard pretending not to be a retard, and I’ll prove it by misrepresenting their points
Do you realize how silly you sound?
>that was your entire "valid criticism" though
No it wasn’t.
>oh no, not the major plot point that has existed for volumes
That was introduced when Araki gave up trying to solve a problem that had been introduced several volumes before that.
You realize part 5's end took months to release in full, right?
>It isnt all criticism, its just the retarded criticism
Continually saying the word “retard” won’t make the criticism any less valid.
>Obviously you agree with the retarded criticism
I agree with some of the criticism, and you consider all criticism to be retarded.
>Do you realize how silly you sound?
no sillier than some retard barking about how childish dissatisfaction with a shounen's ending while pretending to come from a place of intellect
>No it wasn’t.
yes it was, and I don't see you actually correcting me in this post
>That was introduced when Araki gave up trying to solve a problem that had been introduced several volumes before that.
again, you're retarded meta take on what happens isn't valid criticism
its just retarded bitching
Someone did in one of the threads that came out shortly after that episode.
>Continually saying the word “retard” won’t make the criticism any less valid.
and repeating that you think your criticism is valid doesn't make it so
>I agree with some of the criticism, and you consider all criticism to be retarded.
so you're just bitching and whining like I said
Why did Kira's dad and Polpo's stand have one?
>and repeating that you think your criticism is valid doesn't make it so
If it’s so invalid, why can’t you disprove it?
>so you're just bitching and whining like I said
There’s a difference between criticism and whining. Fair criticism isn’t whiny, but calling every critic a retard sure is.
>If it’s so invalid, why can’t you disprove it?
how exactly am I supposed to "disprove"
>me no like thing that happen, different thing should have happen
>There’s a difference between criticism and whining. Fair criticism isn’t whiny, but calling every critic a retard sure is.
what critics, I only see whining retards ITT
JUSTIFIED MY ASS!
AND IT SHOULD BE "KUSO" OR "MERDA" NOT "SHIT" GODDAMIT! GHIACCIO IS ITALIAN CHARACTER CREATED BY A FUCKING JAP SO WHY WOULD HE USE ENLGISH WORDS?! FUCK
I'm arguing that the character that talks like he knows what's going on should know that they're stands. And if he knows that he would have said it in his short explanation.
>and now its from "somewhere" else
So there's some dimension of parasitic stands that exist and, despite SCR iirc only having a range of the city, SCR is able to bring their souls from this dimension. And this is on top of this happening after the souls have already been switched despite Mista, Trish, Giorno, etc not continuing to switch.
Can't wait to see Diavolo fully revealed. Don't know how, but the anime has gone and turned him into my favourite of the JoJo villains.
>how exactly am I supposed to "disprove"
By using logic and reasoning instead of name calling.
>what critics, I only see whining retards ITT
You’re ten times more whiny than any critic in here.
Can't wait to see him kick Polnareff into a ditch
>I'm arguing that the character that talks like he knows what's going on should know that they're stands. And if he knows that he would have said it in his short explanation.
but he didn't because he only knows so much and isn't a narrative presence. So your argument is retarded
>So there's some dimension of parasitic stands that exist and, despite SCR iirc only having a range of the city, SCR is able to bring their souls from this dimension. And this is on top of this happening after the souls have already been switched despite Mista, Trish, Giorno, etc not continuing to switch.
you got it, and the dimension more than likely exists parallel to the normal one so Requiem's range is irrelevant
probably slowly turn you into chocolate, no different from Green Day's mold, but tastier.
>By using logic and reasoning instead of name calling.
but only retards would expect me to disprove their retarded opinions, retard
>You’re ten times more whiny than any critic in here.
user, you only think that because you're opposed to me telling you that part 5's ending was perfectly fine
if the criticism ever went past
>yo....bruno or giorno...or somebody should have like, used their stand to like, beat Diavolo!
maybe I would care enough to address the point, but it never goes further than that
its always just some retard crying about arrow power-ups and meta takes on Araki's writing
>Requiem's range is irrelevant
So does this apply to every stand? When Purple Haze is fighting Illuso and spreading its virus is the virus entering this parallel universe and killing a bunch of parasitic stands?
>Pol isn't a narrative presence despite actually narrating what's happening during that part
THOSE SUBTITLES ARE TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH GODDAMNIT!! AND WHY THE FUCK WOULD GHIACCIO SPEAK JAPANESE?! HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW ANY JAPS!!
>So does this apply to every stand? When Purple Haze is fighting Illuso and spreading its virus is the virus entering this parallel universe and killing a bunch of parasitic stands?
pretty retarded argument considering Purple Haze can't interact with other dimensions like Requiem or D4C
>Pol isn't a narrative presence despite actually narrating what's happening during that part
very retarded, this is the height of retardation in this thread
>but only retards would expect me to disprove their retarded opinions, retard
How is continuing to call me names proving me wrong in any way?
>user, you only think that because you're opposed to me telling you that part 5's ending was perfectly fine
I’m ok with you liking the part 5 ending as long as you accept that it’s ok not to like it.
>it never goes further than that
There have been plenty of posts detailing alternate ways to beat King Crimson.
>arrow power-ups and meta takes on Araki's writing
What’s wrong with talking about those?
>How is continuing to call me names proving me wrong in any way?
I can't fix your retardation, user. I guess you'll cry over the end of part 5 forever while people with functioning brains can enjoy it
>I’m ok with you liking the part 5 ending as long as you accept that it’s ok not to like it.
oh sure, you can dislike it all you'd like, just don't expect me to take retarded criticism seriously in return, yeah?
>There have been plenty of posts detailing alternate ways to beat King Crimson.
I prefer the manga over fanfiction
>What’s wrong with talking about those?
one is just complaining and the other isn't actually critical of what happens in the part and is instead a way to disregard what does happen in favor of just saying
>its that way because the writer (who could write literally anything) didn't know what to do despite possibilities being unlimited
Pol just says "our world" meaning for all we know they could be coming from the moon or something. But my entire argument in the first place is that the whole "switching beings from other worlds" thing isn't coherent and doesn't lead anywhere. The entire thing you're arguing is headcanon on par with Josuke going back in time and saving himself. It has no basis with anything stated in the manga and is just an attempt by you to salvage what is ultimately a useless couple of pages in the finale that don't affect anything and that's never brought up again.
I can't cure your retardation, user. The shadow of Requiem is representative of the arrow and its abilities mirror this. Multiple arcs in part 5 build upon the idea that stands are more than what the reader and the characters themselves believe them to be and it all comes to a head with Requiem itself drawing out these creatures
It doesn't matter where they're coming from, you just need to grasp what they're meant to be. Rather than saying that those creatures are stands, its more that stands are those creatures.
Its more headcanon to disregard an entire sequence of events for the convenience of your own mush brain to be honest
>Its more headcanon to disregard an entire sequence of events for the convenience of your own mush brain to be honest
*a sequence of events that I've modified with my headcanon into something that makes a modicum of sense because the original sequence does not
>I can't fix your retardation
You can’t make me retarded just by calling me a retard over and over again.
>I guess you'll cry over the end of part 5 forever
I’ve never cried about it at all.
>just don't expect me to take retarded criticism seriously in return
If you can’t accept the criticism, prove it to be invalid or just ignore it.
>I prefer the manga over fanfiction
So do most people here, but most people don’t consider it to be perfect.
>its that way because the writer (who could write literally anything) didn't know what to do despite possibilities being unlimited
Well they either didn’t know what to do or they chose to make it look like they didn’t.
>its more that stands are those creatures
Based and ayypilled.
>Im too retarded to come to my own conclusions about what happens in a shounen manga
this is the more honest version of your post, you retards should all be more honest with yourselves
>You can’t make me retarded just by calling me a retard over and over again.
you can by posting retarded shit over and over again though
>I’ve never cried about it at all.
this entire thread says the opposite
>If you can’t accept the criticism, prove it to be invalid or just ignore it.
>either entertain my retardation or just let stupid be stupid
hilarious
>So do most people here, but most people don’t consider it to be perfect.
if the manga was perfect, Giorno wouldn't have been able to clone Coco Jumbo and make use of his stand without the key during the initial KC fight
Its not perfect, your "criticism" of the end is just retarded
>Well they either didn’t know what to do or they chose to make it look like they didn’t.
again, your retarded meta take on what happens is totally worthless
the space between the arrow as a solution being introduced and the end of the part is wider than KC's ability being revealed and the solution being presented because the intention was always to have Giorno ascend in power. That's why King Crimson is so absurdly strong, so it would force the protagonists to try and match that power.
Here's to hoping that however much they were planning to spend for Part 6, they save it and add it to Part 7's budget
>"Stone Ocean is the best part."
Imagine being so weak you get suicidal over the truth
>you can by posting retarded shit over and over again though
And instead of proving that what I’m posting is wrong, you just call me a retard over and over.
>this entire thread says the opposite
No it doesn’t.
>either entertain my retardation or just let stupid be stupid
Either prove that it’s stupid or just let it go.
>your "criticism" of the end is just retarded
And yet you can’t prove it.
>the intention was always to have Giorno ascend in power. That's why King Crimson is so absurdly strong, so it would force the protagonists to try and match that power.
The intention was always to do something that would disappoint many readers?
>And instead of proving that what I’m posting is wrong, you just call me a retard over and over.
I keep telling you, retard, I don't see how I can disprove your retarded dislike of perfectly valid end. Do you want me to recite the manga panel by panel for you, spoon-feed you a little?
>No it doesn’t.
oh yes it does
>Either prove that it’s stupid or just let it go.
I don't need to, its obviously stupid but its your own retarded opinion so you'll never see it that way
>And yet you can’t prove it.
See, you really aren't listening to anything being posted in the thread and yet expect me to jump through hoops to explain why you're retarded
which is hilarious
>The intention was always to do something that would disappoint many readers?
source - some retard user who didn't like it who also saw some other retard user posts who didn't like it
>Kira's dad
Enya gave it to him
>Polpo's stand
Diavolo gave it to him
>Barely animated
why are the people who shit on the anime always blind.
you'd have to be blind to not see how little effort they put into the average episode that doesn't have a guest director, and you'd have to be stupid to not understand why the adaptation is so low quality in the first place
>I don't see how I can disprove your retarded dislike of perfectly valid end.
Maybe you should start by disproving all criticism of the ending.
>oh yes it does
No it doesn’t.
>I don't need to, its obviously stupid but its your own retarded opinion so you'll never see it that way
If it was really so stupid, you could disprove it easily.
>you really aren't listening to anything being posted in the thread
What am I ignoring? I’ve read every single one of your posts and none of them prove that all criticism of Part 5’s ending is invalid.
>source - some retard user who didn't like it who also saw some other retard user posts who didn't like it
Source: The ending of Part 5 has legitimate flaws.
>Maybe you should start by disproving all criticism of the ending.
why would I waste my time doing that? You really aren't listening, retard
>No it doesn’t.
Denial is quite the obstacle
>If it was really so stupid, you could disprove it easily.
not when you're dealing with retards adamant in their stupidity, especially when they don't have any real points made but have tricked themselves into thinking otherwise
>What am I ignoring? I’ve read every single one of your posts and none of them prove that all criticism of Part 5’s ending is invalid.
still not listening
>Source: The ending of Part 5 has legitimate flaws.
nah, that's just what retards think
you gonna keep crying because Giorno stabbed GE with an arrow to win? because that's retarded
The ending fucking sucks.
typical "valid" criticism
Part.5 is literally the worst part and if you defend it in any way, you're a retard
Based.
>why would I waste my time doing that?
If calling me a retard over and over again is worth your time, then actually proving your point certainly is.
>Denial is quite the obstacle
I’m not denying anything.
>especially when they don't have any real points
I have made real points, and you’ve refused to disprove them.
>still not listening
What am I not listening to?
>nah, that's just what retards think
Prove that their criticism is invalid instead of calling them all retards.
>you gonna keep crying because Giorno stabbed GE with an arrow to win?
I haven’t cried at all about it.
that'd be 4 though, which is a directionless mess for one half and then a total let down in the other
Epic falseflagging.
Based.
I'm serious though
No you aren’t.
>If calling me a retard over and over again is worth your time, then actually proving your point certainly is.
It isn't though, Id rather just frustrate you with non-discussion than entertain the retarded discussion you want to trap me into
>I’m not denying anything.
quite the obstacle indeed
>I have made real points, and you’ve refused to disprove them.
please greentext them in the next post for laughs
>What am I not listening to?
me
>Prove that their criticism is invalid instead of calling them all retards.
waste of time, retards will believe what they want
just ignore them was your advice, but I'd rather antagonize them
>I haven’t cried at all about it.
you've cried all thread, and I bet you've cried about it in multiple other threads if you're a fag who jumps from general to general
>aside from Giorno and Buccarati
What? Giorno is the blandest guy on the team.
You think I secretly like Part 5 or something? I don't understand.
This but unironically
Part ___ is literally the worst part and if you defend it in any way, you're a retard
Buccellati is more of a main character than giorno desu
1
Koichi is more of a main character than Josuke desu
part 3 is the worst stand part
I wish Trish would let me lick her armpits.
nah
wat
This is why Koichi is best boy
Part 3 is a masterpiece. You'll understand when you get older.
>Id rather just frustrate you with non-discussion
It’s failed because you’ve become very frustrated while I haven’t.
>the retarded discussion you want to trap me into
Proving me wrong is less retarded than calling me a retard over and over again for several hours?
>quite the obstacle indeed
No point proven.
>me
I’ve listened to everything you’ve said.
>waste of time, retards will believe what they want just ignore them was your advice, but I'd rather antagonize them
There’s something wrong with you if you consider actual conversation more of a waste of time than calling someone a retard over and over.
>you've cried all thread
If my valid criticisms to be considered crying, your post have been the biggest temper tantrum of all time.
I respect that a lot of people would probably disagree with me, but holy SHIT it meanders for way too long and everyone has to catch a case of the stupids for the fights to work properly. Most enjoyable part of watching SDC is definitely the voice acting though. Reading it again can be a bit of a drag.
9
user, you need to understand that you are not talking to an actual human being right now. You're talking to a VAfag.
You don't have to spoiler it, most people agree that part 3 is the worst.
Stooping to his level won’t help me.
>It’s failed because you’ve become very frustrated while I haven’t.
I was wondering how long it would take to reach the retard projecting phase, you were going in circles for a while there
>Proving me wrong is less retarded than calling me a retard over and over again for several hours?
yes, because trying to change a retard's mind is pointless so I might as well just enjoy the retard instead
>No point proven.
are you just parroting random words you see other user use in "arguments" right now?
>I’ve listened to everything you’ve said.
you haven't
>There’s something wrong with you if you consider actual conversation more of a waste of time than calling someone a retard over and over.
Actually, there's something wrong with you if you think that
>me no like thing
is valid criticism
>If my valid criticisms to be considered crying, your post have been the biggest temper tantrum of all time.
see first greentext in this post, retard
you failed to greentext those supposed ""points"" by the way, probably because they don't actually exist
see retard? you finally held out long enough to circlejerk with your own kind
I bet that makes you feel better about not being taken seriously
Talking to him is stooping to his level.
part 3 is only worth reading, the anime is in fact a drag and a complete waste of time to watch as you've said
by the way, your understanding of a situation as a reader doesn't mean the characters have the same understanding. That's retarded.
part 3 is only worth skipping
Based
nah, thats part 4 which serves almost no purpose in the entire series outside introducing arrows for 5
What purpose do you think 5 serves?
Its the original end to the story of Jonathan and Dio, a major body of power is left in Giorno's hands and the world is kept in balance. Part 6 only exists because Araki couldn't just let it go
How would giorno realistically be able to fight diavolo
If he did the "oh you can see 10 seconds into the future but I was thinking 11 seconds into the future" people would just say he's a Gary stu
My thought was him making some type of armor out of thorns around his chest and vital areas but that would need for the damage reflection ability to come back
I find that it's more enjoyable to watch because I love everyone's voices. The manga has a lot of great pages, obviously.
Exactly, the retards wouldn't ever be happy with anything because they just hate Giorno for being overly successful in general
They only claim that a non-power grab win would have made them happy
>I was wondering how long it would take to reach the retard projecting phase, you were going in circles for a while there
But it’s true that you’ve gotten extremely frustrated while I haven’t.
>yes, because trying to change a retard's mind is pointless so I might as well just enjoy the retard instead
Most people would agree that repeating insults is a waste of time compared to real conversation.
>are you just parroting random words you see other user use in "arguments" right now?
No, I’m pointing out that once again, you’re acting as if my intellectual inferiority is a fact without proving it.
>you haven't
Then what haven’t I listened to? Can you prove that I haven’t? Probably not, since you never prove anything.
>Actually, there's something wrong with you if you think that
You really consider this a better use of your time than real conversation?
>Isn’t valid criticism
No, but I some of the criticism that you disagree with is.
>you failed to greentext those supposed ""points"" by the way, probably because they don't actually exist
You ignore the points that I make.
If it was a circlejerk, I would’ve joined the other guy in namecalling you.
48 episodes was too much, especially considering 4 and 5 are both longer and are getting less episodes
>How would giorno realistically be able to fight diavolo
Setting up a trap that would take more than ten seconds to escape.
>But it’s true that you’ve gotten extremely frustrated while I haven’t.
this is the delusional phase
>Most people would agree that repeating insults is a waste of time compared to real conversation.
most people =/= retards like you
>No, I’m pointing out that once again, you’re acting as if my intellectual inferiority is a fact without proving it
its pretty obvious, I don't really need any input
>Then what haven’t I listened to? Can you prove that I haven’t? Probably not, since you never prove anything.
still not listening
>You really consider this a better use of your time than real conversation?
when it comes to retards like you, yes. This is becoming very circular because of your denial of being retarded
>No, but I some of the criticism that you disagree with is.
It isnt, and you have yet to prove it is
>You ignore the points that I make.
doesnt feel good when it happens to you, huh retard?
>If it was a circlejerk, I would’ve joined the other guy in namecalling you.
I wonder how wobbly that little pedestal you're on is, retard
care to elaborate? You realize Diavolo can see the future, right?
I like how the manga has these fun info pages
These pages are just when Araki decides to go on wikipedia
>1989-1992
>wikipedia
this retard thread just keeps getting dumber
Probably. It just feels like 3 drags on a lot longer than it should because they had to fight every single Tarot card and only 5-10 were actually interesting.
Sorry I meant japapedia
I dont mind the part 3 rogue gallery nearly as much as other people because I knew I was in for a HnK type adventure filled with actual scumfucks most of the time
and the subtle allusions to past hamon/vampire abilities in the form of early stands were nice. For example, Dark Blue Moon there was to put Jotaro into a Bruford fight situation
>this is the delusional phase
You continue proving your frustration with each post.
>most people =/= retards like you
That’s a pretty bold thing to say.
>its pretty obvious, I don't really need any input
It’s supposedly so obvious and yet you haven’t been able to prove a single valid point.
>still not listening
What do I need to listen to that I haven’t heard already?
>when it comes to retards like you, yes. This is becoming very circular because of your denial of being retarded
This is becoming circular because you’d rather repeatedly make simple insults than have an actual conversation.
>It isnt, and you have yet to prove it is
I’ve made points and you’ve refused to acknowledge them.
>doesnt feel good when it happens to you, huh retard?
It hasn’t happened to you because I haven’t ignored anything that you’ve said.
>I wonder how wobbly that little pedestal you're on is, retard
What pedestal? None of us have any right to claim that we’re better than anyone else on here.
Only for ten seconds.
I like the general tone of it, like an older adventure serial, part of me just wishes that Araki was willing to make things a little weirder. JoJolion is definitely satisfying in that regard.
Looking at this page makes me sad at how Part 3 still doesn't have a proper translation and that 99% of readers will never know about it.
>You continue proving your frustration with each post.
kinda like how you prove your retardation with each post, except you're actually retarded and Im not very peeved
>That’s a pretty bold thing to say.
I think its pretty bold to be proudly retarded, but you've done it
>It’s supposedly so obvious and yet you haven’t been able to prove a single valid point.
still not listening
>What do I need to listen to that I haven’t heard already?
s t i l l not l i s t e n i n g
>This is becoming circular because you’d rather repeatedly make simple insults than have an actual conversation.
pretty sure its circular because you continually beg me to engage your retarded nonsense
>I’ve made points and you’ve refused to acknowledge them.
I acknowledged them as retarded though, you are still not listening
>It hasn’t happened to you because I haven’t ignored anything that you’ve said.
But its been happening all thread, I keep telling you the same thing over and over and you're not listening
>What pedestal? None of us have any right to claim that we’re better than anyone else on here.
yet here you are, pretending to be a better retard user than other retard user because
>i-i d-dont do n-name calling!!...thats m-mean....
Just stop replying to them. You won't get anywhere.
so you don't care to elaborate though?
that says it all, imagine being critical about something with no actual alternative to present
Ironic, since Ive basically been telling that retard its worthless to engage his ""points"" because I won't get past the retard wall in his brain
he still isn't listening though
>you're actually retarded and Im not very peeved
I’ve your job to prove that I’m retarded, but the only thing that you’ve proven is that you’re frustrated.
>I think its pretty bold to be proudly retarded, but you've done it
I’m proud of the fact that I have actual conversations, unlike you.
>still not listening
>s t i l l not l i s t e n i n g
Still not proving anything.
>pretty sure its circular because you continually beg me to engage your retarded nonsense
It’s circular because you refuse to have an actual conversation.
>I acknowledged them as retarded though
Calling everything that I say retarded isn’t proper acknowledgement.
>But its been happening all thread, I keep telling you the same thing over and over and you're not listening
You keep calling me retarded and I keep asking you to speak like a normal human being and actually make real points.
>yet here you are, pretending to be a better retard user than other retard user
I’m not going to stoop to your level, but I don’t consider myself better than you.
Lure him into a room filled covered in oil, light the oil on fire, and block every exit.
>I’ve your job to prove that I’m retarded, but the only thing that you’ve proven is that you’re frustrated
>your job
hilarious, also you might as well drop the facade of "you're frustrated" and start meme posting already with "u mad" because that's how low you've sunk, retard
>I’m proud of the fact that I have actual conversations, unlike you.
gotta be proud of something, I guess
>Still not proving anything.
STILL not listening
>It’s circular because you refuse to have an actual conversation.
actual conversations are wasted on retards. which I've said multiple times, but you don't listen.
>Calling everything that I say retarded isn’t proper acknowledgement.
its all you deserve
>You keep calling me retarded and I keep asking you to speak like a normal human being and actually make real points.
you first, retard
>I’m not going to stoop to your level, but I don’t consider myself better than you.
contradictory statement, retard
and you don't see any possible way that could go wrong for those planning it? or see an issue with trying to lure a person that is so paranoid he hasnt shown his face to anyone in a decade without first actually transforming into a teen boy?
A trap... you say?
>hilarious, also you might as well drop the facade of "you're frustrated" and start meme posting already with "u mad" because that's how low you've sunk, retard
It's your job to prove that I'm retarded and you've failed.
>gotta be proud of something, I guess
Speaking like a normal human is a good thing to be proud of.
>STILL not listening
Still repeating yourself instead of making a point.
>actual conversations are wasted on retards. which I've said multiple times, but you don't listen.
I know very well that you consider me to be unworthy of an actual conversation, but I want to make you realize that it would be a much better alternative than this.
>its all you deserve
Maybe you should just stop talking to me entirely and do something better with your time.
>you first, retard
I've already made points, but you haven't.
>contradictory statement, retard
Just because I don't want to copy your bad behavior doesn't mean that I see you as lower than me.
That would be the challenge.
>be me
>have Stand that makes enemy instantly uncontrollably horny
>diavolo submits to cocklust
>gets AIDS
>dies
>It's your job to prove that I'm retarded and you've failed.
I dont feel like Ive failed, forcing you into circular retard thinking to make your drop your shitty points is a pretty rousing success if you ask me
>Speaking like a normal human is a good thing to be proud of.
not really, but again I guess you need to be proud of something
>Still repeating yourself instead of making a point.
pretty hypocritical, retard
>I know very well that you consider me to be unworthy of an actual conversation, but I want to make you realize that it would be a much better alternative than this.
It really isn't, this is much more entertaining that actually attempting to educate dysfunctional user posters
>Maybe you should just stop talking to me entirely and do something better with your time.
ironic
>I've already made points, but you haven't.
what points? greentext them for laughs in the next post please
>Just because I don't want to copy your bad behavior doesn't mean that I see you as lower than me.
now you're starting to sound more autistic than retarded
>f-fucking name calling a-and b-bad b-behavior on m-my Yea Forums....
really?
reminder trish is for normie plebbit straightcucks
sounds retarded, I much prefer the GER solution to that retarded shit
Trish is clearly the superior choice here
The prequels killed the concept of exploring lore/backstory
Based Jotaro completely and utterly obliterating the stupid arguing faggots
>I dont feel like Ive failed
You've failed yourself by wasting your time.
>forcing you into circular retard thinking
You've also failed at that.
>pretty hypocritical, retard
It's your turn to respond to my points.
>It really isn't, this is much more entertaining that actually attempting to educate dysfunctional user posters
Your life sounds pretty boring if you consider this to be entertainment.
>ironic
I'm trying to help you improve. Helping people is a good use of my time.
>what points?
That KC isn't invincible and that Araki could've come up with a strategy to defeat it.
>now you're starting to sound more autistic than retarded
Looks like you've finally added a new insult into the mix.
>f-fucking name calling a-and b-bad b-behavior on m-my Yea Forums....
Wasting your time by acting like a fool isn't something to be proud of.
That's your opinion. In my opinion, finding a way to trap Diavolo would have been a better conclusion than GER.
you shut up too
He totally said that to me.
I wish Jotaro would tell me to shut up.
I want Araki to confirm which historical and legendary figures were stand users other than Jesus
>You've failed yourself by wasting your time.
ironic, but time spent having fun is time well spent in my opinion
>You've also failed at that.
denial
>It's your turn to respond to my points.
hopefully you greentexted them in this post, retard
>Your life sounds pretty boring if you consider this to be entertainment.
no more boring than the life of some retard looking for serious discussion over his retarded opinions on Yea Forums
>I'm trying to help you improve. Helping people is a good use of my time.
delusional
>That KC isn't invincible and that Araki could've come up with a strategy to defeat it.
care to elaborate? please dont recycle the oil filled room bit, that was retarded
>Looks like you've finally added a new insult into the mix.
well if you're gonna say autistic stuff, Im going to point it out for you
>Wasting your time by acting like a fool isn't something to be proud of.
I never claimed to be proud, you however seem to be pretty proud of acting like a retard all thread
and you still didn't greentext these supposed points that don't actually exist
if you can't come up with a better way than trapping him in a room filled with oil that he could probably just punch his way out of, your opinion isn't worth anything
GER>your retarded opinion
>ironic, but time spent having fun is time well spent in my opinion
Hopefully you'll realize that you can have even more fun doing things other than this.
>denial
You have failed.
>hopefully you greentexted them in this post, retard
I did.
>no more boring than the life of some retard looking for serious discussion over his retarded opinions on Yea Forums
Trying to improve the quality of discussion isn't always exiting, but it's my duty.
>delusional
What's wrong with trying to help the community?
>care to elaborate? please dont recycle the oil filled room bit, that was retarded
How is the oil filled room a bad idea?
>well if you're gonna say autistic stuff, Im going to point it out for you
Have fun using your new meaningless insult.
>I never claimed to be proud,
Well at least you don't take pride in this.
>you however seem to be pretty proud of acting like a retard all thread
I'm not proud of that because I don't act that way.
>and you still didn't greentext these supposed points that don't actually exist
I gave you the point in non greentext form.
>he could probably just punch his way out of
We've seen that he can't easily punch his way through thick rocks.
>your different opinion
Fixed.
>Hopefully you'll realize that you can have even more fun doing things other than this.
oh sure, but this is fine
>You have failed.
according to some retard, which doesn't matter
>I did.
wow, those were your only points? see, this is why you're retarded
>Trying to improve the quality of discussion isn't always exiting, but it's my duty.
autistic as fuck, and you're ironically lecturing others on how to spend their time
>What's wrong with trying to help the community?
see above
>How is the oil filled room a bad idea?
I guess it wouldn't seem like a bad idea, if you're retarded
>Have fun using your new meaningless insult.
I will, thank you autistic retard user
>Well at least you don't take pride in this.
unfortunately I can't say the same for you
>I'm not proud of that because I don't act that way.
denial
>I gave you the point in non greentext form.
yeah, that makes this entire interaction really, really sad.
sorry, autistic retard user
Is it worth to watch any of the recaps?
>We've seen that he can't easily punch his way through thick rocks.
retarded and wrong, care to devise some other retarded trap for me to laugh at?
No
>oh sure, but this is fine
Why settle for less?
>according to some retard, which doesn't matter
According to someone that you call a retard without evidence.
>wow, those were your only points? see, this is why you're retarded
Disprove them.
>autistic as fuck, and you're ironically lecturing others on how to spend their time
autistic as fuck, and you're ironically lecturing others on how to spend their time
Because I want to make everyone happier.
>I guess it wouldn't seem like a bad idea, if you're retarded
Not an argument.
>unfortunately I can't say the same for you
I don't feel shame in having pride in my goal to make this board a better place.
>denial
You can't prove it.
>yeah, that makes this entire interaction really, really sad.
What's wrong with non greentext?
>"its ok to skip parts"
>retarded and wrong
During the Metallica fight, we see that King Crimson's punches do not easily tunnel through solid rock.
>Why settle for less?
because exploiting autistic retards is easy
>According to someone that you call a retard without evidence
to be honest, the constant cries for evidence of your autistic retardation makes me think you might actually have mental problems you're hung up about
>Disprove them.
I have, you're just retarded and autistic and won't have your autistic retardation challenged so you arent listening
>Because I want to make everyone happier.
autistic and retarded, anonymous
>Not an argument.
see, doesn't it feel better to stop pretending to be smart and spout memes like your autistic retard nature tells you?
>I don't feel shame in having pride in my goal to make this board a better place.
I would, especially if I just acted like an autistic retard for 100 replies
>You can't prove it.
dont need to, its obvious
>What's wrong with non greentext?
it seems like you're failing to follow the conversation here, autistic retard
its sad that those were your only points and I shit all over them hours ago
but, as Ive had to repeat for your autistic retarded ears over and over, you do not listen
Autistic retards will believe whatever they want to believe
>using the tantrum ground pound added into the anime as evidence
the thread just got even more retarded, I bet you think Dio's ripper eyes can slice the sky open despite being equivalent to a water jet cutter too
This post is completely disingenuous
when you're as retarded as autistic retard user, it needs to be said a lot
>Another post full of nothing.
I could respond to each one once again, but I have to go now. It's too bad that I wasn't able to help you or hear any actual points from you.
I'm pretty sure that he punched a rock at least once in the manga, but if not, I'm sorry for attempting to have a real conversation.
>I could respond to each one once again, but I have to go now. It's too bad that I wasn't able to help you or hear any actual points from you.
finally, the thread wont be as autistic and retarded as it was with you in it
>I'm pretty sure that he punched a rock at least once in the manga, but if not, I'm sorry for attempting to have a real conversation.
sounds like you're too autistic and retarded to even understand the point the other user was trying to make
Anyone want to refresh my memory how the next two fights are structured? Does it focus on Green Day only or does it cut to the Oasis fight during it as well?
>retarded autistic retard!
>No!
Can we have actual discussion now?
There's a segment against Oasis coming up next, then it's all Green Day until the fight wraps up with Oasis again.
Giorno, Bruno, and Mista remain together for a bit before splitting off and then it mainly follows the Green Day events after setting up Oasis v. Bruno a bit, but the meat of Oasis v. Bruno doesn't happen until after Green Day because it leads directly into the colosseum
Maybe when the Part 6 anime comes out and that guy leaves.
Part 6 has the most to gain from an adaptation. DP better get trippy with the music and art.
It's getting the part 4 treatment.
No, they bring out latent powers. Stands were originally planned to be an advanced form of ripple and it was even mentioned once in part 3 but never again
>hey guys remember that one time Joseph described stands as a ghostly ripple, dropped concept!
retard theories never get old
Even saying that it was "mentioned" in Part 3 is a huge stretch.
>Fugo eating strawberry panna cotta
Figure you're long gone, but I did your request
Are you working on the other requests as well?
Such great art is wasted in this god awful thread.
Based
no I am going to bed soon
Is it just the anime or is the first 19 episodes supposed to be happening in the span of like three days? Mista gets shot like twice in the same day and everyone is back to full HP after a single battle
Voice acting made it better imo.
The whole of Part 5 takes place over the span of around a week.
Will you do them another time?
>full HP
manga is not video games and Giorno can heal wounds as well as Bruno being able to zip them up as well
Giorno couldn't heal until after the Baby Face fight
It's not like it really matters either way.
They could've gone full midiclorians and it wouldn't really make a difference because its jojo so any stupid explanation fits in just as well with the story.
I mean in the end it's just some simple excuse for the existence of the arrows, I guess Araki didn't want to just go and say 'its magic' like he did with the stone masks.
Mista's first bullet wound was stapled shut.
Sticky Fingers
Yes?
The stone masks were the result of scientific research by the high IQ scientist Kars.
Just like every other part of Jojo.
I mean in 3 we see the characters get seriously injured basically every episode but in the span of a few days/a week they're completely healthy with no wounds or evidence of wounds.
Only had a 'this character needs to go to hospital' bit twice over the whole run.
crazy aztec voodoo magician kars?
Kars was none of those things.
is also healer
No
Yes Im sure people who live in caves and dress like this have a thriving scientific community that isn't entirely based on crazy magic garbage
>Part 1-3 gets a lot of love from the animation and liberties taken
>Part 4 looks rushed as fuck, not even the blu-rays can save it
>Part 5 looks fucking amazing
I'm angry lads
So you're just pulling it out of your ass.
Yes
Unfortunately 4 just wasn't as popular.
They could get away with nice looking BD's for parts 1/2 since comparatively there was a pretty small episode count with them combined. 3 was the most 'iconic' part so it gets a lot of love, and 5 is the most popular in japland, so it gets to look good too.
4 just kind of got the short end of the stick because its the middle child, though I don't think 6 will fare much better.
Yes he was.
It was supposed to be our time 4bros
please go ahead and show me any evidence that the mask isn't just magic?
It was an invention made by a genius.
kars being smart or not has nothing to do with the mask itself, we're shown no evidence that the pillar men/ancient humanoids are technologically inclined basically at all. They just lived in caves, wore primitive clothing and seemingly just got by on the fact that they were immortal and had magical shape-shifting powers.
Plus from the looks of things the stone mask is literally just stone with engravings on it, theres no technology present in it. It's legit just magical shit.
theres nothing that image that implies the mask is technological and not just a mask legitimately mad of stone/engravings and is magical.
>Plus from the looks of things the stone mask is literally just stone with engravings on it, theres no technology present in it.
Jonathan was researching it and he said there was a mechanism
Imagined if Kars was the one who made the arrows instead of the mask, how would JoJo played out then?
Dio gets arrested for attempting to poison George and the rest of the series never happens
Diavolo would be the ultimate lifeform
Stop the denial, user
Looking from the bits of the broken mask that kars uses we can see it's literally just stone with holes for the bone hooks to come out, the 'mechanism' jonathan is referring to seems to basically just the mask ((magically)) reacting to blood, since theres nothing else in the mask as it is other than engravings in an ancient language.
Do you really think that Araki bothered to draw all of the mask's small details?
you'd figure if it was technology we would have at least seen some wires, some indication that theres shit inside of it other than just holes for the hooks.
If he bothered to draw the little hook holes even on that picture of it breaking, I don't see why he wouldn't put the 'tech' part in as well. As it is, this is the most we ever see of the inside of the mask, and it's solid stone.
Whatever technology is powering it probably doesn't look like modern human technology.
>the mask is magic because you can't see any wires
Jesus Christ
so do you just reply to everyone you’re arguing with with weak greentext or what
Are those arguing greentext faggots finally gone?
One left. The other might still be here, pretending to be a normal person.
any of you care to explain it?
i don't really mind it, but i would definitely have preferred it if they just left it with will-magic
I really like Cioccolata's new VA.
I didn't like his PS2 game VA and i was afraid that they cast someone similar but they actually found a decent VA this time.
I like it a lot too, even though he doesn't talk much in this episode, his voice really suited his character, sounded very creepy/intimidating too.
go read the previous threads that have essays worth of explanations, rather than bringing this shit up in every new thread.
It is will magic. It just so happens that there is also a virus out there that can force your body to awaken its will magic.
how many episodes until the 7 page muda and how many until polnareff reveal
the current state of jojos fanbase, they will forgive all kind of shit because "MUH JOJOS"
I'm glad we're finally to the best fight of Part 5
probably episode 31 for the 7 page muda, and 32 or maybe early 33 for Pol
It's had that level of explanation for the supernatural aspects since the first part. Jojo has never had well explained technical reasons for this kind of shit, any excuse ends up fitting. If you don't like it then fine, but I think it's weird if people only start complaining about inconsistencies or shitty explanations in this part.
Doesn't that contradict your own point? If you say Jojo has never had well explained technical reasons, then Araki's attempt to create one with the virus goes AGAINST how the series was before.
>I think it's weird if people only start complaining about inconsistencies or shitty explanations in this part.
There was a guy a few posts ago shitting on the mask for not having wires in it.
the arrows aren't a well explained technical reason either, its just "uhhh yeah a virus makes your willpower manifest as a psychic power" it did its job as an explanation but that doesn't mean it isn't stupid anyway, but again, thats the same for basically every supernatural thing in jojo, whether they try to pass it off as technology or magic.
it doesn't matter whether it does or doesn't, fact is that the masks are silly and have a paper thin level of believability or logic anyway, just like everything else in jojo. this is a world where nazi's were capable of making working cyborgs in the goddamn 1940's.
ass pull: the series
In the manga they do Green Day then Oasis even though they're meant to be happening concurrently. Hopefully in the anime they pull a Cheap Trick/Superfly and do them both simultaneously.
Did you miss the part where he can just reattach severed limbs and close gaping wounds right back up?
Who knows how it'll really go though, honestly I hope they keep it as is since at the point they split up there's a steady build of action until Giorno/Mista beat Cioccolata, and it being interrupted would be a little jarring.
>jotaros dumb bitch of a mother will die because she isn't strong enough mentally to use the stand!
>but a dog, a hawk and a baby can
>even a retard like hol horse can
nigga...
Wasn't the whole point of the butthurt about the midichlorians and the Force that people thought that anyone could train to have the Force?
In JoJo Stands always were a thing for a few select groups, nobody can train to have Stands, it's a completely different principle and the introduction of "space virus" doesn't change that.
Also The Phantom Menace is bad and Attack of the Clones is ok, but Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars movie imo.
There is no issue here
Wasn't the actual translation more akin to 'she doesn't have a fighting spirit'? in that Holly herself was just too kind-hearted and gentle to be able to control a stand?
Animals would seemingly be the best candidates for getting stands since they basically all operate off of instinct/*willpower*
>Part 5's ending is good
>Part 4's ending is bad
YOU are the super retard
YOSH
Why did the anime make Cioccolata a lot more muscular and handsome? Why do they want people to fuck the mold guy?
dude
a fucking turtle
not that it matters, apparently stands are just a bonus for surviving a virus for the genetically predisposed
For what reason do you believe that turtles cannot possess willpower?
A tortoise can and will fuck you up user. Don’t underestimate them.
Pic related, again, seems like itd be easiest for animals to gain stands since they basically only operate off of instinct and willpower, yes, even turtles.
Holly only couldn't control hers because her temperament is just too gentle, and as it is, none of the joestars would have gained stands if it weren't for DIO awakening his + his connection to them.
Araki was still figuring stands out in 3, and 5's explanation is pretty tenuous anyway, so there was bound to be inconsistencies.
things that had a stronger fighting spirit than Holly :
>A Gorrila
>A Hawk
>A Dog
>A Baby
>A Pair of Rats
>A Cat becoming a Plant
>A Turtle
>A Bunch of Planktons
>
Animals are purely instinct/willpower driven user, of course they'd have a stronger 'fighting spirit' than some middle aged woman who we know wouldn't hurt a goddamn fly if her life depended on it.
>A Gorrila
>stands are just a bonus for surviving a virus for the genetically predisposed
only if you are touched by one of the arrows , rest of stand users are born with them and so can use from birth/childhood or have them awaken at some part of their live during a stressfull event etc
Why is Green Day pronounced as Green Dee? No wonder they changed it to Green Tea.
She's just that pure
the butthurt about midichlorians was that it quantified someone's connection to the force in a way that hit too close to DBZ power levels
they eat veggies and move too slow
any vegan slow animal has no willpower
that was a very evil baby though
'a' in japan is pronounced like 'hard', so when its meant to be an 'ay' sound it'd be translated like 'ei'
"Gureen Dei"
what about the other baby user forgot : Shizuka ?
Now that I think about it, it would be a pretty amusing gimmick if Araki had made a hamon user as enemy around Part 4-6, to suddenly bring back an old system against the main characters, it would be an interesting novelty at least once.
That baby had something else going on that wasn’t stand related.
I normally skip the Jojo threads because they are terrible but I decided to read through this one. To my surprise its fucking terrible what the fuck is wrong with you people
Serious question here: Are there seriously people who who think this isn't a great adaption, and the best adaption by DP so far? Are there honestly people who genuinely think it looks bad? If so that is nothing but peak contrariansim.
dont forget :
>A FUCKING INANIMATE SWORD
I don't like it.
> youtube.com
Turtles can attack pretty quick and bite very hard user, and there are those that eat fish/meat.
Regardless, all animals possess instinct and willpower to survive and thrive, whether they eat meat or not.
We already know that stands can exist after the users death, Caravan was the orignal user, but since the stand had a consciousness of its own and possessed an object, it was able to survive past his death.
Hello speedreader
Its basically people just looking for shit to argue about regardless of how much they actually dislike it.
>contrarianism
cool buzzword, the adaptation is shit
based hairposter
those are just the facts, Kira's defeat was utter fucking trash
Learning disability: the post
How is it so hard to understand that the reason the Part final battle involved souls is because Diavolo has the special inborn ability to share a body with someone else? None of the others can do that except him.
It was definitely a fun gimmick/twist IMO when it became clear that Diavolo and Doppio had actually been separated during the final battle.
I don't remember seeing anybody in this thread saying that this was hard to understand.
Some people like Yukako do not truly recollect being stabbed by the arrow. What are the chances that people like Kakyoin, and Tonio, who got their Stands without an arrow, actually did get it via an arrow yet do not remember it at all?
PIC RELATED (1/2)
PIC RELATED (2/2)
Zero
Zero
The arrow is literally the goal of the fight. The one who catches the arrow first wins. All the character knew that and don't act like nothing happened vefore Gio took it, a lot happened in the requiem arc. This whole arc was a build-up for the good guys to catch the arrow
>The arrow is literally the goal of the fight. The one who catches the arrow first wins.
Which is terrible.
when was the last time we saw sound effect visuals, honestly?
>eulogy
Part 6 never, have you forgotten?
>adaptation is shit
How so, contrarian?
>imagine being so pathetic you're stealing dumb youtuber's jokes
the real meme out of this episode is that quote , you can use it way more than just cioccolata saying things
Is there an actual overarching plot in JoJo or is Araki just making shit up as he goes?
He comes up with it as he goes. Some things are planned out but not all of it.
He makes shit up as he goes. Start watching this video at 0:47
youtube.com
Makes sense
That's just your taste.
Fuck off
Arhacki
How bad are the reworked Stand names in Stone Ocean going to be?
who cares
See the games
Anime only girl here. I think that the reason why they shoved a flashback to Stardust Crusaders stand users is because the guy who contacted Giorno by hacking the Matrix is either Avdol, Kakoyin or Polnareff. My money is on Kakoyin since he's the most intelligent one. Avdol, and especially Polnareff would probably not know how to operate a computer, much less hack the Matrix.
About that whole alien discussion thing, when reading the manga I assumed the beings appearing out of people's flesh were requiem version of their stands. There's no problem with them still being able to use their stands while it's not fully manifested in our world.
My headcanon goes like this : requiem stands are from another dimension or whatever, or just aren't material. They may or may not be tied to people in our world. In the second case, getting a stand would be getting a requiem stand linked to you, it would be having a requiem stand basically "choose" you, since the user's fighting spirit has an influence. In both case, I interpret having a stand as using a fraction of the requiem's power that manage to manifest in our world through the link with the user. Requiem stands can influence the material the arrow is made out of on top of that, hence the arrow chosing people.
Oh man you're close but It's Iggy.
That's because he's black
KC can just punch through the walls
Wow, genuinely made me SEETH for a moment. Here's your (You). You've earned it.
damn, that's stupid
It makes you want to eat yourself because you're so tasty (like chocolate)
>Just seeing a cute girl post on Yea Forums makes him go SEETHING.
Have sex, incel.
the virus doesn't give you stands, the virus just pulls out your stand from inside you. This is why characters who had nothing to do with the arrow can have stands.
part 4 had great direction though, the colors, transitions, etc were great, it was a good adaptation
>anime girl only
>WOOOWWWWW, what the FUCK !? EEEEKK get off my board NOW it's an incel only board NO GIRLS ALLOWED, we didn't chose to be virgins you girls just don't like us GET OUT
Imagine actually seething even for half a second reading 'anime girl only'
>we're shown no evidence that the pillar men/ancient humanoids are technologically inclined basically at all.
you don't need to be able to build factories and shit to make technology. The stone masks effect was probably discovered through the body control abilities of the pillar men, while the mechanism and material of it might have been generated through that as well. If we compare the pillar men to ancient humans, the stone mask is like a bow, the effect of which was discovered through the humans unique trait of extreme manual dexterity/throwing ability, and crafted via that same dexterity. It's probably not supposed to be some sort of apex of industrial pillarman civilization like a computer.
2 babies you mean
Based Ghaccio poster.
but why did Holly lose her stand when Dio died? everyone else still had it
Bad writing
She didn't. It just stopped activating outside her control
nice headcanon lmao
Good, 4 is actually good unlike 5 and so is 6
>>Part 5 looks fucking amazing
litterally deluded. its a budget slideshow, look at anything that isn't a closeup and tell me it looks good with all the offmodel characters. are vafags easilly pleased? hav you not seen any anime with decent animation in your life?
giorno, mista and bruno stay the same for the whole fucking story, josuke and koichi are completely different by the end of it
SO isn't getting an anime adaptation
to be fair, the entirety of part 5 takes place in like what, 72 hours? it's not like you can grow up much in that time
josuke had minor character development with joseph, that's it. he stayed constant throughout the story
Yup. Araki was at his lowest in terms of character development during pt 5
He was a regular kid at the start but turned into the guardian of morioh by the end, no longer needing Jotaro's guidance
>stand power comes from a virus
literally midichlorians
araki is a hack
4 anime is trash
they both did it perfectly
it's a fictionnal story, characters developpement is only dependant on the author's writting
I want to marry Mista.
I know his life is busy and dangerous, he wouldn't have much time for me, but that's ok. I know he might die suddenly in a mission gone wrong or something, but I still want to.
I want to make him the best spaghetti, pizza, lasagna, risotto, and all those cozy homemade traditional dishes, and watch his happiness as his tummy is filled. I want to make love with him but also let him pound whatever holes on my body after he's had a rough day. I want to be cuddled by his warm big bod and strong arms. I want to nuzzle my face on his hairy chest. I want to grope his ass and mantitties out of the blue and watch him get all embarrassed. I want to comfort him when he cries.
I'm usually not a cuck, but if he cheats on me with somebody else a lot more beautiful like Giorno, that's fine. I just want him to be happy. I'd like to watch them fuck, at least.
I'll always be waiting at home. I'll always be waiting.
Why is Araki obsessed with Italy ?
he has good taste
it has better source material so it's overall better than 5. keep seething because BOTH look like slideshows
japanese in general really romanticize european architecture and culture.
that said, i think i read that araki has visited italy on multiple occasions and fell in love with the place.
Part 5 has a better source and adaptation.
Based
Nope. Pt 5 has the worst characters in the series excluding 1 and 2 with 0 character development. Pt5fags are so deluded they worship jobbers like la squadra who did NOTHING
Truth.
>Squadra who did nothing
THIS
Pt 5 minor antagonists = pt 3 and 6 minor antagonists
This, part 4 is trash aside from the few Kira arcs
How come Coco Jumbo's stand has no direct benefit to him at all?
worst characters in what sense? as in personality? because if we're talking aesthetic wise, you're wrong and gay
... obviously jk but really, personally for some reason i love the designs of p5, they're so bizarre in a good way and fashionista
don't bully coco jumbo
Midichlorians are a jojo reference?
thats just how his mind works. stands are a reflection of the users psyche and willpower
I'm looking forward to this more than any other scene
My husband is so handsome!
YOSH
Go back to filing Secco
>tfw no chad gf
Except there are plenty of people with naturally acquired Stands
I imagine it might involve disco
everyone forgot shizuka
Stacy gf you mean
Wow, very nice, user.
Staceys are bitches, not cool like chads
and that's exactly what trish (more like trash) is
Trish does talk shit to Mista though?
Mista is garbage that deserves to be talked shit to
No, you just have shit taste.
t. jobsta
t. Ghiacchio
Why are Mista and Okuyasu always portrayed as black in tumblr fanart?
tumblr trannies love niggers
They're the most masculine
are they ?
Dunno how DP can save the final fight It's one of the few times I had to turn off my brain and keep flipping pages while reading a manga.
Funny considering blacks have the highest estrogen levels out of any male from any other race.
They're so manly they turn estrogen manly
First of all retard, there's nothing wrong with wanting punch ghosts in the grand finale of an anime entirely about punch ghosts.
Second of all, even with punch ghosts, it's an awful fucking ass pull ending.
Yes, but I don't have any saved. Someone post some
True
Manly estrogen is called testosterone, retard.
If women had the strength of a man, they would basically behave exactly like blacks.
wow is that some racism I see
Racism? On Yea Forums(nel)?
No, you must be imagining things.
also it's called realism actually
I know at least one of you guys have blackayasu and Mistone fanart, post it right now
Hirohiko, no!
POST IT OR I'M PULLING THE TRIGGER
PULL THE GODDAMN TRIGGER THEN
because tumblr. don't know what you're expecting
are jojo's plots are so good becouse they are so bad?
giorno's donuts are a Stand
yes pretty much
*BANG*
making a sound of a gun doesn't actually fire it you schizoid doddering old man
Oh what's that? You know i cant communicate with ghosts from the afterlife, right? Shoo
CHOCOLATE RAIN
*I move away from the mic to breathe in
CHOCOLATE RAIN
same
> mfw spoiled anime only bro about Polnaref being in part 5 because I never thought it'd be made
why does nobody understand hormones
Anyone care to help an animeonly loser here?
How come the boss knew they were going to Rome?
Retard
Don't forget the fucking trees in part 8
Passione is basically psychic and and has people everywhere who can ID persons of interest and report them back to capo's/doppio at a moments notice.
>everyone working together to overcome Kira's power without asspulling anything themselves is bad
>Kira's luck catching up to him is bad
vs
>Diavolo focusing on getting a plot device revealed 1 fight before to kill the part 5 gang even though he could easily kill all of them with no struggle and then losing because a ghost grabbed the plot device and threw it at the main character that did nothing to deserve the hollow victory is good
Face the facts, you are utter fucking trash.
trees and animals operate purely by an 'instinct' to survive, so it makes sense that they would more easily gain stands or have what could be considered a 'fighting spirit', holly is basically just a gentle middle age woman who wouldn't hurt a fly.
How will they even adapt Bohemian Rhapsody with all these Disney references
Isn't it fair use?
> 1 fight before
I mean technically they were informed of the arrows importance like 21 chapters before the 'final fight' properly starts, and thats counting all of SCR as 'the final fight' too.
It was a bit late but still generally pretty reasonable.
Not shit like spider man and mickey, but I think they could generally just replace that shit with similar-ish mascot looking characters and there wouldn't be any trouble.
I think that user was referring to the fact that Kira basically just outed himself by yelling his real name like a dumbass, even if he thought he'd won. Plus maybe the very sudden inclusion of BTD to give Kira a boost.
Kira saying his name out loud was fate, he did it in every previous timeline, and Hayato knew this. Kira screaming it out loud instead of saying it directly to Hayato is just for dramatic effect. As Hayato said, it wasn't luck, it was a gamble. Not even Kira knew what would happen if he told the name to someone, and it turned out to pass Bites the Dust. The ending to part 4 is actually the best because of this, but people just assume that it's a regular Jojo asspull.
So, since we already had the first female, first disabled and first trans JoJo, is it safe to assume that Part 9 will have the first black JoJo?
I mean, saying his name very quietly to Hayato in order to get him to leak his identity to others, which was the entire point of BTD is pretty different IMO than yelling it at top volume in the middle of of a public street when he already thought he'd won.
Also as far as I recall he didn't say it in every timeline regardless, just the first and the last.
> first trans
eh?
That's a drag queen. The firsts I listed were all after Part 5.
it would've been the same outcome if Kira said it quietly to Hayato as Josuke walked by, the shout was just for a dramatic flair.
> just for dramatic flair
it was stupid, that's what it was, especially when Kira already said he was planning on releasing KQ within that time specific time loop, who knows who could have heard him, even if it could only potentially bite him in the ass later.
As it is, he didn't need to yell his own name, and it was a pretty silly reason to oust himself to Josuke.
based Yea Forumsnon
only MAL posters think that Kira saying his name was dumb
** and, again it's not like it was fate or anything like you said, Kira didn't say his name in every time loop anyway.
Kira being retarded, Hayato being too smart and the ambulance all in all makes part 4's finale the dumbest shit I've ever seen
IMO it's not really all that dumb for jojo, but I get how other people could find problems with it, a lot of shit in jojo is stupid, but it basically just operates by a 'rule of cool' standard anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Hope they keep in sex pistols being horny in the final battle