ITT: Art regression

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a change in assistants most likely

>What are extra effort one panels

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both of their nose jobs got botched

>left covered almost an entire page
>that level of coping
hxh has been looking objectively worse the past ~50 chapters, you can't deny that

>his author draws the same face not just for the same character in every page but also for the entire rest of the cast, male and female

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Progression you mean?

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the quwrof ones looks pretty similar
hisoka looks worse

What a bad example. Backgrounds are drawn by his assistants so you have to compare the faces and actual characters in which the one on the right looks worse

someone post the Baki duo one with Oliva

Chrollo's gigantic nose makes him look like a diplodocus

flute for the soul

Why Hunter x Hunter so beautiful? Is there any manga that can complete with Togashi's genius?

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Concede.

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>Backgrounds are drawn by his assistants
proof?

because it's imbued with spirit
much like how nen can shroud things and enhance them

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>posting assistant backgrounds

speak a bit louder, you're whispering

every night before sleep I weep
every morning after waking up I mourn
for the unfortunate souls that failed to walk the path of a hunterchad

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good bait
so assblasted he has to bring up someone else. At least Miura was good at some point, unlike Togashi being bad bad and then even worse

The entirety of Berserk.

What I came to see
also griffith

no proof, Togashi has 7 assistants that just sits there and don't do anything

Miura needs to hire someone to draw for him

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Concede, subhuman.

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Every long running manga has art regression.

Spreads like that one are always done by the mangaka, retard

He does digital not pencil now.

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Proof?

this, jesus. except when they have a better schedule etc

The burden of proof is on you, since you're the one claiming it was all drawn by the assistants.

How come Togashi draw dog shit art when he only cranks out 10 chapters every 2 years?

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because he's still drawing on a weekly schedule everytime he returns

>I don't have proof Togashi has drawn anything

That is, in fact, correct. Togashi hasn't drawn anything in the past 10 years. There's no way that shitty art could belong to him. The man who drew early HxH and YYH couldn't have drawn this crap.

Why is Togashi so lazy and such a faggot, bro?

Fuck you Nihei!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

because having money and creative control over his own work means he doesn't have to follow Jump's insane schedules

Why is Togashi so good to us, bros?
I always feel like thanking him for his work is not sufficient.

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>It's another "Hunterchads damage control everything said about their manga instead of accepting its flaws" episode.

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We'd gladly accept a flaw if there was one. But so far its all generic seething and subjective opinions.

Keikaku doori

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>Togashi so good to us

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t.Seething herotard

Why are you scared of words?

I imagine few years in you start to hate it, but you still need the cash so you keep pushing yourself.

What's with the moe trend these days?

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You can thank him when he releases another chapter...pfft

At this point I firmly believe that he has already hired someone to draw for him.

Part 4 + 7 are the best.

togashi's assistants at most do the backgrounds, I'm not even sure he has any

The art quality always improved. It's the art style that changed, sometimes with questionable choices.

Jojolion is honestly the worst of them.

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Its nota wonder that everyone is dropping Berserk. The story has been garbage and the only thing keeping the readers was the art.

art quality and art style are both describing the same thing, idiot

I disagree. Quality and style are different words for different concepts.

Late Part 2, late Part 4, and late Part 7 are the best.

what?

>everyone is dropping Berserk
who? where?

This could use an update, current part 8 is some of Araki's best.

What's wrong with their bodies??

give me a good image from p8 and ill do the rest.

Soul Eater had some pretty good art progression.

Imagine thinking he ever should stuck to any Artstyle.
Like Hunter x Hunter is a call for adventure, his artstyle is likewise always changing and striving for novelty

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Proof of this please, since when was this a thing

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I just realised that's not the one with the early middle and late part comparisons, so it'd be better just to leave it until JJL is finished, unless someone can post that chart.
Here's a good shot of Josuke's face anyway.

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Assistants tend to do everything but characters and I'm pretty sure part of HxH's haituses have to do with Togashi wanting to do most of it himself.

So he just traces?

God I fucking hate the "scary" hisoka face, looks like literal shit and ruined the mood like aces death
It looks like if a Junji ito character starred in barney

No it's saying he's well studied and can draw more than just the same uwu face and icon tropes

Yes, but sometimes he just copies other people's art by eye.

Of course having a Facial Expressions Books = tracing...
look at those faces, user. They totally look human for sure...

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It was a reference to Junji ito. Togashi likes it.

HxH always had garbage art. Togashi can't draw. He never bothered to learn since people were fine with his doodles. The only time his art doesn't look embarrassingly bad is when he traces it from something else.

>Having references = tracing
I hate artlets so much.

Is this how you really feel user? Who hurt you? Was it Togashi? Or a """hunterchad"""?

Commit die.

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Yeah I know it's a reference to Junji but if you're not gonna do it right why do it at all

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Do nips ever give Togashi shit for being a shameless tracer? Is that something frowned upon in their culture?

SOUL

You know he's studied by his peers in the Manga Industry? Especially his facial expressions.

"Kishimoto : [...] Another thing that I liked were the characters expressions during the scenes where they witness their enemy reveal their true power, I've studied a lot about the delicate balance of expressions of characters when they're surprised or when they find themselves in a dangerous situation, Back when I've started the serialization of Naruto, my inspiration for these kind of facial expressions was Hunter x Hunter, even to this day it still has a special place for me and I often re-read it. "

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That's like calling Araki a tracer for using Michaelangelo/Da Vinci statues for references.

Why do you think its not right? Its so obvious that everyone can tell its a reference to Junji Ito, that means it was done right. Its not the only time Togashi has done it.

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Inoue traces, Miura traces, Murata traces, Asano traces, Nagai traces, Otomo traces.

Inspiration =/= Tracing.
Here is an example of Tracing :

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The expressions he traces from a book ?

>posts garbage

>Says traces
>all the faces on the left look like no living/pass humans ever
Learn what the term 'tracing' means.

These two characters have very, very good design.

Junji does it so that it looks creepy unsettling where as togashis just look goofy and ruins the mood
Like Yeah you can tell it's a reference but it looks shit while doing it

No, I posted Yu Yu.

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But that's exactly what Togashi does. Every page/panel that is noticeably more detailed than the usual is traced, plagiarized, inspired or whatever you want to call it.
The difference is they can draw well without tracing. Every page Togashi draws without reference looks like a doodle.

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Hisoka's face is actually unsettling. Imagine being a Hunter examinee and seeing that thing running towards you in a forest. You'd shit yourself. In Palm's case, it was supposed to be goofy because it was used for comedy purposes.

Fair enough in palms case, haven't read up to that bit yet
But in hisoka case I'd shit myself laughing, maybe it's just down to hisoka design itself not being suited to it but it just looks like someone using a snapchat filter

Nobody is on Togashi's level when it comes to clean paneling & composition, let alone his top tier choreography. Let me demonstrate it with this example:

The first page shows Biscuit facing off against Binolt, a bounty hunter and serial killer. The audience to the fight, Gon & Killua, have no idea how powerful Biscuit is, and neither does the reader.
Togashi starts the page with Biscuit lifting Binolt up without effort; Biscuit’s body has almost no speed lines, emphasizing the ease with which she can lift a full grown man. Instead, all of the speed lines are focused in on Binolt’s body as it rises; he’s completely powerless to even move. The second panel emphasizes the same qualities: once again, Biscuit’s body barely moves, while Binolt’s spins at incredible speed. The final panel on the page boils the fight down to its pure essence: Biscuit, almost completely stationary while Binolt is sent exactly where she wants him.

>And then there’s the page turn

Forcing the reader to hold their expectation is one of the oldest tricks in comics, and Togashi knows it’s an evergreen technique. However, he also contrasts this new page with the former. There are speed lines everywhere, more impact lines, heavier crosshatching, and mild exaggeration in the features. The previous page is time boiled down to a few moments, milliseconds even. This page is time speeding up. Biscuit hits Binolt so hard he vomits a frankly improbable amount of blood before he even hits the ground. It’s the next three seconds of the fight boiled down to a single, action-packed panel. The middle-bottom panel is Gon and Killua, barely visible and stunned. And then Biscuit ends the page by clarifying that she wasn’t using her full strength.

In two pages, Togashi’s made a girl in a puffy umbrella skirt cooler than your favorite character, using comic techniques familiar to almost any comics reader.

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At that point of the Exam, everyone was scared of Hisoka because he cut off some guy's arms just because he bumped into him and everyone saw that. If you are guy in a forest and suddenly see that face running towards you at full speed, you'd shit yourself from fear.

kino post

>Nobody is on Togashi's level
Yeah, everyone is better than him

Still doesn't change the fact the face is goofy af even if it's meant to be scary
It's the same issue as aces death in one piece where the mood is ruined by the faces pullef

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Oda' skill has both grown and regressed at the same time

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The difference is that Hisoka uses that face to kill some fodder, while the goofy Luffy face happens in the most dramatic moment of OP and ruins it.

Those were only special occassion for a Cover Art and some art. And for that specific character, he has stated that he loves to go out of his comfort zone and draw with a total difference artstyle here it is tracing.

The character doesn't reappear and no other character with this same artstyle reappear ever again.

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Still doesn't change the comparison of a goofy face ruining a mood

I did it anyway so in the future it will be easy to replace the image.

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What mood? That scene wasn't even meant to be scary. It was to show that Hisoka can lose his focus when he's excited, so that Gon could steal his tag.

I wonder if Hisoka would have the same impact he has if he was always in pretty boy mode.

Who cares though? It's not like he traces from other people's shit.

Togashi has no assistants.

>hiatusfags damage controlling

>by his assistants
He has no assistants.

I think Togashi did good by changing Hisoka's chinese look to a more western one. It gives him way more appeal.

He's just using a a thick pencil for Orochi. That's all.

Besides the odd choice of white washing, what are your thought on his sharp nails/claws in '11?

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Learn English retard

It's supposed to be scary when he starts chasing him but it comes off as laughably retarded

I was thinking without his makeup up-hair and ring outfits. Like bottom row, third from the left.

No? Him giving off his bloodlust and Gon trying to hide was the scary moment, him going for the kill while WE the viewer watch for Gon to get the right timing to reel in his badge was a bit tense, but hardly scary.

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I keep getting the clown mixed up with the prince guy from the bread manga. You know where they traveled back in time. Was this clown a price too?

Horror wasn't the right term, but the scene is supposed to show you how scary hisoka can be and that he's like a monster, except the face ruins that

I think 11 Hisoka is great and the VA was absolutely perfect, couldn't have casted a better actor. When it comes to Hisoka, Madhouse did him justice.

He's better now, tho.

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Like this? He wouldn't be Hisoka anymore. The makeup and hair are a character mark that distinguish him from everyone else.

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low effort and cringe.

T man is getting old with his back and hand problems and refuses to let assistants do characters

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Cope

>praised by everyone in the industry
>praised by critics
>praised by other successful and famous mangaka
>praised by Osamu Tezuka
>praised by millions of fans world wide
You cope.

>no u
The level of hiatusfags. Pathetic

He is using a thick pencil for everything, current OP art is a mess mostly because of this

Yeah.

>huntermumblers use the same excuses gotfags use.
>other thread proves huntermumblers also like got.
when you think a fandom cant sink any lower.

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Togashi is worse than Toriyama in paneling and choreography in every way.

>No argument
I accept your concession.

The style has certainly become too busy for it's own good.

Cope harder faggor

>I accept your concession.
The coping is real.

That's fine and all buy why doesn't he stick to any style? In HxH you go from the typical big eyed 90s style like Killua and Kurama that look like he directly took Hiei and Kurapika and gave them a change color, to hyper realistic humans with good proportions to Hannah Barbera dot eyed faces to crazy character designs you would expect from One Piece to just random nonsense like pretty much everybody this arc. Just like in this imagine it feels like he first draws an expression and then draws a head around it rather than coin his own and make the expressions work with it, makes it feel more like pic related.

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Togashi is an experimentalist.

He literally does have. Watch the Jump Ryu.

Almost Rob Leifeld feet.

that same principle is applicable to One piece and its far more shocking

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You can't be fucking serious. This is the most basic of examples and the art, choreography or panel composition are not even good or innovative. I'm sure you can find a better example than that within the same arc alone, stop pretending this is genius.

Samefag

COPE

Say what you want, I can still identify those generic faces. That should say something right?

>Literally ten seconds between posts.
Yup, cope hunter boy.

From decent girl to a goddamn Bimbo.

Yes but that's not the point, it's good that Togashi can draw different expressions but there's no consistency to his character design. He just draws what he wants.

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I don't see it as that goofy. To me the face conveys an extreme shock reaction, how exaggerated and abnormal his face is makes it even more disturbing how Luffy must have felt at the moment. The distortion is used to great effect, it's the dead eyes and the directionless and unhingedness of that face that gives it its power

>"He just draws what he wants."

Is that supposed to be a bad thing necessarily?

that looks like trash, even i could draw better and I failed my art classes lmao
didn't bother reading your essay, who the fuck has time for it hahahaha

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That's what art is: free expression and creativity.

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I think it's okay if you trace. But if you decide to trace, you should hire a model or ask a friend to do poses for you and take photos of them. Then you can trace from that.
But it's not okay to trace from magazines or websites or movies. That's basically plagiarism

I can't even tell what's going on there. How does this garbage get through WSJ's quality control? Are they not embarrassed to publish this deviantart tier abomination?

Good god, how did Oda regress this bad?

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I think it's easy to tell. She lifts the guy up and makes him spin around in the air. Then she punches him and he vomits blood and passes out.

And for some reason there is a speech bubble above Gon and Killua with just "..." in it, like as if we couldn't tell that they are silent and awe-struck if we only see their faces without a speech bubble

I can't be the one that unironically like the doodles

spilled ink tier

>hides shitty drawing behind spilled ink
>fans call it high art and praise it
Being Togashi is amazing. He could literally take a shit on a page and his fans would find a way to praise it and call it an artistic masterpiece.

You'll never understand art, shounenfag.

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i can't here to post exactly this shit
from soul to soulless

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Actually, he achieved this effect by tapping the paint brush. The problem was that he overdid it.

Based

N-no, you see, Togashi has back pain, and I think he has burnout from all the drawing, so it's okay if he just doodles like that, and the takes a 1 year hiatus

>art
Reminder that this is also art and better regarded than manga.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit

fucking kino

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That's why you have to respect ONE. He's a mediocre artist but he doesn't try to hide it behind plagiarized art. His composition is really good which makes his manga enjoyable to look at despite the below average art.

Just because you have a fetish for it doesnt make it better, user.

What are you talking about? Togashi is the only mangaka in history who can replicate the art style of Rothko, Yves Klein and Jackson Pollock,

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He has 8. There's a video about it.

This is quintessential Togashi. The difference between traced art and his own. Whenever he draws without reference the end result looks goofy and disproportional. It's because the guy never bothered to learn how to draw. He doesn't even have the basics down.

Guy, the shit you suggest the artist is way above their financial limits.

It’s not easy to tell at all. And I research art on a constant basis. The movement lines in these drawings are fucking ass.

Togashi releases stuff like this and makes millions while you are here seething LMAO

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>Hunter"whatever excuse is good as long as I don't have to face the truth"fags.

8 assistants and his manga still looks like absolute garbage. Meanwhile Kishiro has been drawing his manga on his own and with only his son helping him out for almost two decades now. What a shame that someone as talented as Kishiro can't afford to hire assistants while this lazy hack shits out a turd once a year and earns more than Kishiro in a decade.

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It's funny, isn't it?

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Pic context?

He can't afford an assistant? Wasn't alita a succesfull manga?
Also I think he had some revenue from the movie

Based hunterchads causing massive butthurt

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Would be easier to name mangaka whose art didn't regress.

But that’s not fun. Fuck off, you lazy fuck!

Man picks up a cyborg girl he found in garbage heap.
The movie came out this year and unless he made a deal with Cameron for % of revenue he probably didn't get much out of it when he sold him the movie rights for the Alita. He was stuck in a very unpopular seinen manga magazine for 15 years which is probably why Alita never kicked off after he ended the first series.

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That’s much worse than I expected. I thought it was just a doll.

>He was stuck in a very unpopular seinen manga magazine
I didn't know that to be honest, a shame

Alita never kicked off because its garbage. Stop posting that irrelevant shit here.

K.

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The idea that Togashi's art is praised as genius is a recent Yea Forums invention. Nobody in even the deepest of fan circle jerks even finds his art charming or cute but still lesser. It's always made fun of.

OH MY ACHING BACK!

Anyone who expects anything from togashi at this point is blind. He's never coming back. He's made his money.

If he really cared about HxH, he would hand it off to an apprentice mangaka who would like to do it.

Like toriyama and toyotaro. Have someone else draw it and have togashi line out the story.

Togashi is just a lazy hack.

>irrelevant shit
Estimated revenue for HunterxHunter franchise is $351m. Alita made $405m with just the movie alone. HunterxHunter is literally less relevant than Alita.

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Only rats that don't care about their work would give it to someone else so they can keep lazing around while getting money.
Togashi is based.

You'd rather togashi shit out microsoft paint tier art once every 10 years than have more chapters.

He clearly doesn't care anymore. He could leave HxH forever and move on.

Don't start something if you're not going to finish it. I hope togashi releases a statement saying that HxH is over and he's through with manga forever.

I wonder it’s because he has that issue of being at home and hating work. At home, you feel like you can be lazy fuck. At work, you can finally think seriously but you despise the short amount of time and struggle of releasing weekly chapters.

>Yves Klein
But there's no color.

Can you blame him? Would you not laze around all day playing video games and reading manga if you could? The man is living the dream. I think all of us can relate and understand him in that regard. On the other hand, as a mangaka he is pure garbage and it baffles me that a society like Japan tolerates his behavior. Why has he not been kicked off from WSJ for being a lazy piece of shit? Some salarymen are driven to suicide at their work or overworked to death while this asshole just gets to do whatever he wants and shits on the hard work of all other mangaka who try their best to make it in this very tough business.

BASED

Based retardo

Even in the same chapter he debuted, he looked pretty much like he always has. It's just that one panel that everyone always posts that makes him look slant-eyed.

I think that he loves storytelling and manga but he hates the industry so much that he loses his will to do his series.

Poor Togashi. How much back energy did that use up?

His previous manga.

>Fujimaki (author of Kuroko no Basket): After seeing the expressions of the characters that Togashi-sensei has drawn, the area that surprises me the most is the corner of the mouth. Kurapika for example would always have this kind of expression, where the corner of his mouth is always slanted upwards or downwards, but because the shift is very slight, it looks like he is smiling, but also expressionless at the same time.

>Ishida: I’ve had this storyboard in my head constantly, but internally the bar kept getting higher… Because I was going to show it to Togashi-sensei, whom I greatly respect, I didn’t want to show him anything poorly done, and I wanted to construct my own worldview within “Hunter x Hunter”
>Ishida: That’s right. When I was in junior high school, the first manga I copied was of Hisoka. It was the scene where Hisoka is letting down his hair after a bath, after he has a battle in Heaven’s Arena. It was so cool I just had to draw it

>Kishimoto: Before I became a professional mangaka, I was already a big fan of Togashi-sensei, I was able to greet him at the Jump Festa
>Kishimoto: Yes. Well, during that time period I was having difficulty creating my manga. I thought I'd ask you for some tips sensei, the first time we met I was a little nervous but luckily Sensei was very nice to me which helped me get over my nervousness and allowed me ask a lot of questions. After diner, he showed me his workshop, the cycle of creating a manga, how to have a good work atmosphere and many other things. Back when I've started the serialization of Naruto, my inspiration for these was Hunter x Hunter, even to this day it still has a special place for me and I often re-read it.

Pic related, other manga inspired by Togashi

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It looks good!

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>Why has he not been kicked off from WSJ
Because he breathes money.

Keep dreaming, shounenfag
>In a recent Weekly Jump interview, translated by Redditor VeraciousCake, Togashi discussed finishing Hunter x Hunter.

>“I need to finish writing Hunter x Hunter,” Togashi said. “It has come to a point where either the story concludes first, or I die before that happens. But I do intend to finish it.”
source: kotaku.com/yoshihiro-togashi-wants-to-finish-hunter-x-hunter-1826365896

>Togashi inspired naruto
That speaks badly of Togashi

>HiatusxHiatus posters desperately trying to stay relevant by using mental gymnastics and hiding under 8 layers of irony for the reddlt giggles and shitting up literally every thread that even dares to mention it.

Fucking based.

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>what is japanese asskissing
This is standard stuff for japanese. It's completely meaningless.

>movie
Not relevant

Cope

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promised neverland and HxH both share common dogshit "art"styles

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wow a hollywood garbage flick that is known in the entire world since cinema is a popular activity is more well known with JUST ONE MOVIE than the entirety of a japanese manga/anime?
you are officially the highest verified IQ in this board

HOLY FUCKING BASED.

BASED

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Didn’t that artist also trace an iron man from a heart attack photo and a spaceship from legos?

Cope

Another brainlet successfully filtered.

Test

FUCKING KEK

>Copefag
NEXT

This prophecy will get BTFO when HxH comes back next month

COPE

Hardly. I can think of a bunch of WSJ series that make more money currently. One Piece, MHA, Black Clover, The Promised Neverland, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Haikyuu, Boruto. HxH doesn't have an ongoing anime, no new volumes, manga is on hiatus for months, no new video games, no new movies. Nothing. It's not making any money. It might even be generating less money than the crappy WSJ series on the verge of cancellation. Does anyone have WSJ weekly circulation numbers from recent years with and without HxH featured in the issue? I wonder if HxH makes any impact at all on WSJ sales.

I can't tell which one looks more autistic.

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They just started re-broadcasting HxH nation wide in Japan. They just made a HxH gatcha. New HxH merch is coming out everyday, like they made a Meruem vs Netero figurine that costs 1k and it was sold out in 5 days. The latest HxH volume sold 800k in a week.

HxH 28 sold 1,011,766 in 2011
HxH 29 sold 1,043,782 in 2011
HxH 30 sold 1,090,309 in 2012
HxH 31 sold 1,193,383 in 2013
HxH 32 sold 1,186,245 in 2013
HxH 33 sold 1,272,692 in 2016
HxH 34 sold 1,258,337 in 2017
HxH 35 sold 1.090.958 in 2018

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Alita's movie sold over 50m tickets worldwide. There are now at least over 50m people who are familiar with Alita Battle Angel. It was also the best selling manga on every amazon store (except Japanese one) for several months. Hunter X Hunter doesn't even have a fraction of Alita's popularity. You are far more likely to meet someone on the street who is familiar with Alita than Hunter x Hunter. In just US alone Alita was seen by over 9m people. Do you think there are 9m people who have seen or read Hunter x Hunter in US? It's lucky to have that many globally. And you know the best part? That figure is likely to double or tripple after bluray rip hits the trackers. Alita is now literally up there with all the biggest manga/anime franchises in terms of fame and recognition.

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I unironically love JoJolion's style

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Whew.

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Based flanchads dabbing on huntercels.

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he is a good boy, Paru has improved a lot

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This board is about anime and manga. Movie sales belong on Yea Forums.

>During Gunnm's initial run in Business Jump manga magazine between 1990 and 1995,[6] the magazine's circulation reached a record 760,000 monthly sales
HxH makes that number in 4 days

I haven't read One Piece in a while but although pages may look messy I'm always impressed at how much story is packed in every 20-page chapter compared to other weekly shounens.

>Moving the goalpost.
So we act as if all the threads that have been made about live adaptations of manga/anime didn't happen?
Just cope instead of being a nigger, faggot.

Make an Alita thread and watch it die in 20 replies. HxH threads hit bump limit DAILY and we've been on hiatus for 5 months.

inb4 it's all intentional because the Moon Child is slowly regaining control of his body and it's turning Griffith's features child-like but it still can't justify Farnese's mutilation

>Deflecting instead of coping.
Cassic Hunterfags, supreme niggers of this board.

>HxH threads hit bump limit DAILY
Half the posts is others BTFOing you and the other half is you damage controlling.

>HxH threads hit bump limit DAILY
yes yes with the two same people posting like 10 pastas then replied "based" to himself?

Last HxH thread had 150 IPs. This one has 80 and the other one has 60.

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You mean threads like these ?
Wow, it must be amazing to have your dead manga generals being filled daily by anons shitting on your manga while your fellow faggots try to fend them off by spamming your own threads with pastas and BASEDs.

>150 IPs
no it doesn't
and this thread isn't even about Fagxfag

There is discussion about HxH. Better than 90% of generals on Yea Forums. No waifu or shipping faggotry.

So last thread there were 75 people BTFOing you and 75 of you damage controlling

>No waifu or shipping faggotry.
Instead you have pedos and fujos

just popped in to drop a lone pitou

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Literal SOULLESS vs SOUL

Alita has had nearly 500 back to back threads each hitting 310+ replies in just 3 months. Kiddo, you're dealing with big league here. You may want to pick on someone your own size like Bokuben or Doctor Stone. LMAO.

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>There is discussion about HxH
And where does that happen exactly? because as far as I can see the only thing going on in HxH threads is shitposting.
>No waifu
What are Pitoufags?

This is Yea Forums, not Yea Forums. Go on, make an Alita thread and see how fast it dies.

>100+ IPs
So this is what you guys do to get IPs uh? So much for no waifufaggotry.

Togashi changes art style and character models from chapter to chapter, the only one who relatively stays the same is Gon. This isnt new

Based and flanpilled.

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What a cutie

>incel
back to tumblr

based psycho

>*Hunterchads live rent free in those 75 anons including you
DONE.

That thread turned to discussion about the series and the themes after the 2 or 3 mentally ill fags stopped spamming because they got ignored. The HxH fandom doesnt have any of that cancer. Our threads are always full of good conversations.

Cope

cringe and irrelevant

Nowhere near, the past few JJL chapters have had top-tier art.
>Araki's art style when he's imitating the HnK trend is soul
>Meanwhile Araki's newer style, based off of Greek statues that has become so well-known and recognised that his newer work was shown off in an exhbit at the Louvre is soulless
JoJofags are so fucking retarded it's unreal, holy shit.

Back to your kennel, dog.

>conceding
NEXT

COPE

I won again.

>This is what they tell themselves.
A truly sad story of coping going wrong.

so you're the two guys posting pastas in DumbxDumber thread
based

Silence your drooling, gaping muzzle, filthy, disobedient creature. You aren't even fit to be a pet, or even a medium of slight entertainment. Return to your kennel, beast, until such time as your former master retrieves you and puts you down like the dog that you are.

Cope and seething pilled

>130+ IPs
>ITS JUST 2 GUYS
schizo

Literally who?

>When you tell yourself this because your generals have become as bad as the boku no pikodemia ones.

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well of course the rest are anons shitting on Hunterfag

How dare you speak in such a jejune and contumacious manner to your master, dog?! How DARE you?! Return at once to your kennel of shame, wherein all scorned and disobedient beasts belong, until such time as your wise and benevolent, yet stern and unyielding master decrees your fate! AT ONCE, pet! Your master commands you!

Cringe

based user from Yea Forums knows better than a mangaka who's been drawing for most his life.

HxH threads are the best on Yea Forums because there is no shipping, waifuspam, fujos, normalfags etc. Its only elite posters having discussions about the characters and themes in HxH

...

>brainlets shitting on literature

Keep quiet, pet. Your thoughtless and perfidious ramblings and willful refusal to adequately heed the eloquent and loquacious diction and benevolent commands of your most glorious and superior master, as disobedient hounds must, owing to their contumacious and cantankerous, most egregious and alarming lack of common decency or tact, have done nothing to stem the gentle ebb and flow of your godlike master's quickly-waning patience. Relegate yourself, pet, to thy kennel, and cower in shame until such time your master's furious wrath is visited upon you. Know your place, dog.

Honestly? Based.

prove it

Cringe

Oda can't do the series like he used to or he'd take another 50 years to finish it.

Fuck man, this sounds like what Hitler must have told himself about Germany as the russians fucked everything in their path.

>the style araki ripped off from more popular artists has more soul than the style that's now entirely unique and iconic to him
The amount of retardation in one post, absolutely based

>Everyone looks like cat people
>Griffith is slowly turning into an actual woman
>Charlotte is 12 for some reason

>shonenshitters from disntint fanbases have to unite to stand a chance against 2 Hunterchads
NEXT

>brainlets shitting on literature
>literature
This must be shitposting. I can't believe someone would seriously post that about manga, no matter which one it is.

You will heed AT ONCE the sagacious and deific words of your wise and superior master and silence your drooling canid mastication apparatus. Return to your kennel, dog, and reflect in silent perpetuity upon your grievous transgressions and sullied reputation in your godlike master's eyes.

The Gotoubun no Hanayome manga's art has regressed because we no longer get potatoubuns.

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based

hxh is a shonen, written by a shitter for shitters

Silence, pet.

based

damn, anti-hxhfags are fucking obnoxious

Double cringe

Read HxH and You'll change your mind

t. subhuman brainlet

Cope

Hear mine words, dog. Obey and mayhap one day shall you earn your master's pardon. Until such time, be silent as the grave, and obedient as all hounds must. Your master commands you.

suck my 6,4 inch dick

They are discordfags moeshitters.

Cringe and faggotpilled

In the case of HxH, it's art AND writing regression

>People shit on my autism.
>Must be a conspiracy!
I mean, cope whichever way you want user.

I did, it's mediocre at best and shit and many parts due to literal asspulls that you fags larp as

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>discordtrannies
>people
Next.

t. Amoeba

Not sure if this is regression or not.

Shit, forgot image.

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were stupid. Try learning to be intelligent.

Left looks better, but thats because I like sketchy art.

>regression
It's inconsistency, more than anything.

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Right is better because it is unique and stylized, something that is recognizable as the artist's. Left looks like any other '80s manga.

I think the art became better here.

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I don't have pictures, but naruto's art gets shittiwe as it goes on

>There are 2 Jonathans there

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He never was an amazing artist, but he developed a unique and consistent signature style. I'd call it a progression.

There's three

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I'm pretty sure that's Joseph

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I mean, aping Fist of the North Star is good and all, but I'm happy the art style evolved into something distinct.

>left
poor version of a generic style at the time

>right
unique, iconic. Most artists dream they could reach such stage. It may not be the most developed style, but its its own style, and its a good style. Consistent, recognizable and works pretty well, it doesnt have to be forced onto the reader.
Definitely better than some trash you see in museums (like fucking distorted naked fat women doodles)

Don't tell me you don't know, user. You do, right?

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Man, each time I see these threads I get really sad that Nikiichi Tobita had both of his manga cancelled cause it wasnt moe enough or something.
I feel the guy had some great potential, just needs to diversify monster designs, so that they arent all ultimately strength oriented big buff beasts

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Literally the worst example, calm down user you don’t want togashi to cum too fast

>art
>objectively worse

HMMMMMM

>What are references?

>Based One-Sama will surpass Togashi.

>tfw i was the op of this thread
>tfw im still being laughed at
You all won't be laughing when HxH returns this year. Mark my words

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Holy shit right looks so much better

stylistic, symbolism or something

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always bothered me how the eyes in bleach were too close together

Araki never improved after late Part 3, he was just constantly changing artstyles,
His anatomy didn't improve, nor his composition, nor his acting.
You can see the same flaws through his entire career from SC to Jojolion.

Oda improved in pretty much everything but inking, which makes everything hard to read.
The problem might be his assistants too

SS was peak bleach. Both art and story wise.

Part 7 is obviously the best you guys are retarded

This is same level skill but a bit less time spent on.

Miura's new art seriously looks like shit

good god, fuck baki duo 1018

Fucking Knights of Sidonia. Pretty much fucking sketches at the end of the manga.

To be brutally honest. Araki in a book about manga once stated that he drew slender bodies to not be out of touch since muscle men physiques weren’t big at the time post part 3.

I hate how cluttered every panel looks now. I think it started with Dressrosa.

>Holy shit right looks so much SMASHED AND SLAMMED
fixed

Who is the Greg Land of Japan anyways? Do the Mangaka community even have their own Greg Land?

the manga might be garbage in the last volumes, but the art is great.

i have no idea who most of those are, please help

Modern art isn't art, faggot.

Based hunterchads

Cringe huntercels

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Why do shounen fags try so hard to delegitimize HxH? It's like they're afraid of it.

>posting facts is "trying so hard to delegitimize an author's work
kek, cope more

>muh opinion is fact because I say so

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what facts?

>make shonenshit
>include the lowest amount of filler/character development
>people praise you like the god of shonen

There's a lolicon artist that got caught tracing when he tried to go legit

Can someone post Oda's progression with thighs and ass?

those people are subhumans though
they're basically second to huntards in ruining something I like except they're not actually trolling

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>Kiddo, you're dealing with big league here
big cringe

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right is better though

boring plot, mostly uninteresting and cookie cutter characters, bad artstyle and inconsistent release schedule, what is saving this shit besides the pretentious garbage it likes to spout from time to time?

>dumbxdumber isn't a shounen despite everyone in the industry considering one because i say so

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You cant argue with Yea Forumsermin
*considering it one

Viz rates it 16+. That's not a shounen rating.

>Viz rates it 16+. That's not a shounen rating.
uh what?

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He talks like a good dad to his fans

>to 18
That means it stops at 18. While "16 and up", which is the rating Viz uses, means that it goes over 18. That's not a shounen.

HxH is a Shonen in name only, it has transcended the genre a long time ago.

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I haven't been on Yea Forums in like 5 years. What is this falseflag hxh posting?

The author is literally on 2 steps from death's door, and is fighting back just to finish what he started, user.
What do you want from him?

Optards and discord trannies daily ritual

mfw when you can't draw mouths

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no, not really.
following your logic, "aimed at men from their 20s to their 50s" means it's not a seinen either.
you fell for the "hxh is a seinen meme"
The rating system only restricts manga to certain audiences by age, it doesn't dictate its intended audience. therfore, 16+ is by no means a way of telling which audience it is intended for.

>Viz
No one cares if american kids are too soft to read HxH

Does THIS look like its intended for teens?

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I'm talking about you faggots. Writing paragraphs of fluff about shonenshit.

Why do shonenbabbies love reading text?
Just getting through a page of One Piece is mentally exhausting.

teens read books too, retard. It looks like this because the author is a lazy hack who can't draw

>a chart that someone man means it's not for teens
Based hunterwhisperer. Did you do your chores today?
youtu.be/pUDUK-yvwQs

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I got into politics when I was a teen and thought GoT made me smarter when I watched it at 14. But the thing is, both shounen and seinen are arbitriary terms noone in Japan I imagine wants to argue about. It is being released in a shounen manga, so everyone thinks it's a shounen. There is no arguing with this.

>so everyone thinks it's a shounen
Go take a look at HxH threads on 5ch and see how they make fun of junior high students for disliking the current arc.

Well, my point still stands.

See

It is if you want consistency and coherence, which you would want for a continuous story.

>liking shounen at all

It doesnt matter which is best, because it will only be the best pile of shit.

dragon ball is pretty good. one of the few shounen universally liked on Yea Forums.

>Go see nip NEETS make fun of chuunis on their own shithole image board
No thanks.

What do you like?

> Togashi
> "He has no assistants"

Stop lying to yourself user.

Not every teen is an illiterate retard like you were, user.

>comparing with scanlations instead of the orginal chapter
user i...

>everyone in the industry
It's literally published in the weekly SHOUNEN jump. It's aimed at middle schoolers like the rest of WSJ's catalogue.

Word.

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> be Kishimoto
> have "lot's of respect" towards his Mangaka idol Togashi
> Togashi stays kind towards him
> Rip off character concepts & arcs off of HxH
> make millions off of it

Top kek

God what a fucking shitshow
Why did he even get into this? What's the fucking point?
It boggles the mind how completely pointless this shit is

This.

Personally I don't want any Mangaka to overwork themselves, but the hiatus Togashi and Miura give us are uncalled for. Like at this point they're just lazy. Bringing out a new chapter like every 6 months? Are you fucking kidding?

That's why, even though people can think about the actual designs, characters & arcs what they want, I believe the work ethic of Sui Ishida to be admirable. Week after week, this mad lad brought out chapter after chapter, back to back. He finished the original T:G and directly continued with ":Re".

He literally deserved himself all the time he wants before he starts a new series, because he definetely overworked himself, just like he even stated.

i know

>Why did he even get into this?
To change the history of manga.

>Kengo Monji, who has worked as en editor in Jump for 10 years, said about this arc:
>"I'm here to witness the history of Manga changing."

Yes, why not?

The editor peaced out and is just collecting his paycheck, there's no way anyone would have approved those wall of text pages

>Summer in SEA territories
>More hunterfag threads being made
What did they mean by this?

the thing with ishida is, he did tons of other stuff while working on his main series. i don't even know how he managed to survive that

Japanese have some crazy work ethic. You've got all these successful mangaka who are millionaires and yet they still bust their ass off for 12+ hours a day 7 days per week like minimum wage foreign workers.

Me too, I'd prefer weekly doodles than 10 chapters of finished art that still seems to be inferior to previous volumes.

>Griffith is slowly turning into an actual woman
this, he looks more and more like a transsexual.

Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa wants to have a discussion with you.

I hate it frankly, The 2011 anime made him look like a pale-skinny vampire for most of it's run. The clown makeup and clothes are just eccentricities, Hisoka is fighter first and foremost, which is why Togashi didn't give him un-practically long nails and will frequently draw him yoked asf

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nothing wrong with him reverse-tanning himself, but yea I agree with the nails. Togashi is way more detail-oriented than the anime makes him to be

I honestly love late Dou and nu Dou's art. At least in some places. But fuck me, it's not a good fit for Olivia and the Ogre himself. They look too much like manlets. They also don't look lean enough.

this isn't even the most text-heavy page from recent chapters by any stretch.

Is HxH worth reading after all these years, or is it a complete waste of time?

Fans will try to convince you it's kino, but at this point the plot has been left behind in favor of a meandering Game of Thrones rip off nobody cares about

>late part 7

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God yes, I remember reading the chapters around Ticket To Ride to High Voltage, my eyes were being stimulated hard like a cunt from the fantastic artwork.

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Shonenkids will try to convince you that it's a Game of Thrones rip off nobody cares about, but at this point the plot is kino.

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source: your ass

I watched the entire anime last year, and was expecting some very generic shonen snorefest. For some reason it was amazingly good. IMO it doesn't get really good until the Yorknew City arc, so go into it with patience.

Why did you ask a question and replied to yourself right after? At first I thought you were just fishing for easy replies. I mean, "is it worth it or a complete waste of time?" sounds really unauthentic regarding a series like hunter x hunter

>it doesn't get really good until the Yorknew City arc
ah, the brainlet take
a necessary one for all things that are good

What volume does berserk's art quality drop badly? 32 looks just as detailed background wise, but the characters are all losing imperfections and in turn they look like dolls who've melted into different forms over the chapters.

is hunter x hunter really that good or is it shitposting

100% shitposting

Togashi's okay, the amount of distinguishable and solid faces he makes, makes up for simplifying lines for quicker drawing

100% shitposting, it's a masterpiece

>no it doesn't
Fucking retard.

It's fucking amazing. Watch it. The 2011 version.

It's great if your brain can process the subtle and sophisticated storytelling.

>is it good
Yes
>Is it that good
Now that's where you run into shitposting and anti-shitposting

Top one looked unique, bottom one looks like generic moe shit.

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After you read HxH, everything else will be a disappointment. So proceed with caution because this series will ruin you.

this^

Top is generic late 90s/early 00s while bottom is generic mid-late 10s. Neither is unique, though the bottom has some really nice coloring.

Not art regression but it shows how awful murata is at paneling and choreography.

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For instance are these meme answers or accurate because i don't really know anymore

Jesus christ. What have they done to my beautiful wife carrier?

Is it iDOLM@STER's fault?

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more like IM@SSASSINATION

Are you kidding? Murata's choreography is godlike, at least compared to ONE's art, if you could call that shit art. I guess he fucked up a smidge in your example there, but you gotta remember this dude mass produces high quality manga at a breakneck pace. He's only human, dude is bound to make a mistake once in a while.

>hxhfags

It's not about the art, murata's choreography is shit compared to ONEs.

It certainly makes Shonens like One Piece and Naruto look fairly brain dead by comparison, I say that 100% unironically. But at times it gets a bit too up it's own ass with walls of text, so it's not all good.

It's good, it just gets shitposted to high hell. Have you ever played Age of Empires 2? Well HunterxHunter is the AoE2 of Yea Forums. A good, maybe even classic work that you cannot sincerely talk about on the board it belongs to.