Isekai crap still outnumbers non-isekai fantasy, but is normal fantasy making a comeback?

Isekai crap still outnumbers non-isekai fantasy, but is normal fantasy making a comeback?

If you look at popular new series there is more normal fantasy than isekai shit. And there are no successful new isekai since 2016.

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>And there are no successful new isekai since 2016.

Slime? Shield Hero?

>And there are no successful new isekai since 2016.
Uh yeah sure

Shieldshit flopped hard and slime lives on manga and novel that started years ago.

After Re:Zero, Overlord and Konosuba there is nothing that sold good.

>but is normal fantasy making a comeback?
Dunno, Endro pretty much drew from RPG adaptations rather than from normal fantasy.

>30 years ago, DnD play retellings could provide better fantasy anime than you can get today

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Is there even a meaningful difference between isekai and fantasy? Most isekai basically turns into fantasy once the MC got spirited away into the other world. After that the isekai angle is mostly just for the MC commenting how different this world is, or searching for their fucking superior rice dishes.

The main difference is lack of video game shit and MC is usually not a super broken gary stu self insert.

There should be a meaningful difference, but too many authors either don't know how to write it, or don't care at all and are just using isekai as a way to get more readers.

Slime's getting S2, though. Sounds like it was successful enough for the people in charge

>I Reincarnated as the Villainess and My Fat Husband Thinks that One is Bigger than Five!?

Would it make a good "duke's daughter"-type isekai, with crop rotation, double-entry bookkeeping, chocolate, soap, and perfume?

>a way to get more readers
And to get themselves excuses for simplying world building to the point where it makes sense to infodump shit about the world to the MC because he's not a native, thus authors easily avoid "as you know" infodumps

What's more likely to get an anime?

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Or pic related

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>Is there even a meaningful difference between isekai and fantasy
Not really. A lot of the shitty WNs on Narou use different tags/genres to fish for autists, which they maintain by dropping a sentence or two related to said gimmick every 5 chapters or so.
>"....for a former Japanese HS guy like me this is..."
Can't be helped though. Place is cutthroat as fuck and if you can't clickbait people the writing quality of your WN is becomes nearly irrelevant.

Isekai shit has slipped into normal fantasy, it's the same cliches and writing conventions. Still video game garbage, still based on shitty LNs.

>normal fantasy

What? Where?

>video game mechanics
>normal fantasy

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Tthe video game garbage is likely the main problem, not isekai (look at Rayearth or Escaflowne).

Narou-kei typically does that, which is gonna be the mainstay of 'regular fantasy' (read: non-isekai) the next few years.

This is completely wrong. 90% of normal fantasy stories don't have video game stats or gary stu leads. Meanwhile almost all isekai does.

Bullshit. None of those series are big. Actually popular new fantasy series don't have video game shit.

By completely changing the actual play logs.

Goblin slayer, made in abyss,..

Oh yeah, but it still shows the origin a bit. The party meetup, forest/tunnel/etc adventures. Though the war storyline with the kings improves that a lot.

"silver ranked adventurer"
"guild"
It doesn't explicitly use RPG elements but is clearly infused by RPG fantasy as opposed to standalone fantasy stories.
Not meaning to bash it, Dungeon Meshi also has that and is great.

>Goblin Slayer
>Adventurers guilds, jobs, an endless glut of RPG shit

oh yes, so different from isekai series, thank god actual fantasy is back

There is nothing wrong with tabletop fantasy elements. It's video game trash that is ruining everything.

What's the difference between insipid D&D facelift garbage and video game (read: Dragon Quest) ripping garbage? I genuinely want to know. It's the same shit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kono_Light_Novel_ga_Sugoi!

This clearly shows the slow fall of isekai. They will try to animate those female leads isekai next but after that there is nothing. All popular new series are not isekai.

Can't wait for Elaina and Dungeon Meshi adaptations.

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Dungeon Meshi does it better than Goblin Slayer, which has a lot of world-building problems that deserve their own thread. Then there is also DanMachi that has stats directly written unto the characters.

>video game HUD
>HP bars
>skill names and levels everywhere
>MC is ultra broken from the start

Don't even pretend that having guilds and adventurer ranks is the same. Real guilds also had ranks for Christ's sake.

Shield didn't flop hard, and Slime had good BD sales.

It's based on dungeons and dragons, not a video game. Lotr is also similar to dnd and it's a non-game fantasy.
>clearly infused by RPG fantasy
Every fantasy is an RPG fantasy if "classes" and power differences exist, then. There are dedicated rangers, warriors and mages in lotr, as well as unique equipment.

Shield sold below 2k on first volume. Average will be horrible. And nobody cares about it anymore.

>There are dedicated rangers, warriors and mages in lotr
Imagine being this new.

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It has averaged over 2K at this point. That's not "flopped hard." What "flop" actually means on Yea Forums now is that someone didn't like something. Even Evangelion was a flop to someone who didn't like it.

Except there literally are.

Excellent arguments and opinions.

I hope it does. Everytime I see something like for example last season where Shield Hero is more popular than Dororo I feel like vomitting.

>Lotr is also similar to dnd
The other way around. And the idea of " party of heroes goes on epic quest" is as old as time, so that's not really game fantasy.

Series with skills and HP are just as bad as MMO garbage, but jobs or guilds are not the same thing.

The trash like "what's his level" can come both from cRPG and paper. It's just that cRPG is much more popular so that's where the hacks/audience sources it from.

>literally a group of mages
>organization called rangers
>dark lord

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It's not like the current state of non-Isekai Anime fantasy is much better. It's pretty much all garbage wish fulfilment with Dragon Quest-esque setting.

It became popular after SAO made MMO fantasy big. Before that it was super rare. If you are playing tabletop RPG and people are talking about levels in character dialogue you are doing it fucking wrong.

>real guild
>"adventurers" guild
If you don't feel a difference, okay.
But there's also shit like character classes.

Wrong.

>Lotr is also similar to dnd
Apart from elves and dwarves they have abrely anything in common.

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Just rename it mercenaries guild and it's the same fucking thing.

I'm honestly looking forward to seeing these identical bitching threads time and time again, they never get old. And to counter anyone who thinks the isekai trend is dying up...

Upcoming isekai/trapped in a VRMMO/reverse-isekai anime:

Ascendance of a Bookworm
Infinite Dendogram
Arifureta
I Said Make My Abilities Average!
Tensei Slime Season 2
Tsuujou Kougeki ga Zentai Kougeki de Ni-kai Kougeki no Okaasan wa Suki Desu ka?
Re-Zero 2
Isekai Cheat Magician
Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?
Cop Craft
Maou-sama, Retry!
Mairimashita! Iruma-kun
Kono Yuusha ga Ore Tueee Kuse ni Shinchou Sugiru
Choujin Koukousei-tachi wa Isekai demo Yoyuu de Ikinuku you desu!
Hachi-nan tte, Sore wa Nai deshou!
Itai no wa Iya nanode Bōgyo-Ryoku ni Kyokufuri Shitai to Omoimasu
Mushoku Tensei
I Reincarnated into an Otome Game as a Villainess With Only Destruction Flags…

There are quite a few really popular series with drama CDs and the like that'll get adaptation announcements inevitably as well

>small group of heroes going on epic adventure

Yes there are differences but at the core it's the same goddamn thing.

>Lotr is also similar to dnd and it's a non-game fantasy.
Distinguish between fantasy world lore and the game mechanics. Obviously, Lotr will have zero, but there are thigns like character classes, the concept of "adventurer", and other such thing that you "know from Ys" and not from books.

DnD fantasy would could perfectly work for pure non-RPGshit fantasy story. But once you start to sperg about somebody being dual-class or even indirectly portray mechanics from DnD rules, you are doing it wrong. Or well, there is audience for that wrong but IMHO it's still not a good idea.

Watch Dororo or Kimetsu no Yaiba, both are good dark fantasy shows in a grounded setting

There are characters in lotr. Gygax et al. turned those characters into archetypes and "classes". Get some fucking perspective, children.

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Show me a new popular isekai made after 2016. Number of adaptations matter nothing almost all of them will flop like all the isekai adaptations before them.

Why not compare them with fucking Argonautica, then?

>DnD invented fantasy adventure

Slime Tensei, obviously.

mercenaries were different

LotR has no mages in DnD sense. They don't cast spells, no matter what the movie adaptation wants you to think.
Rangers, and Aragorn in their number were just called that because they lived on the range, they had very little in common with DnD rangers like Drizzt.
Dark Lord is, again, something invented long before tabletop gaming. Every epic hero had an Archenemy.

There are so few nip fantasy because nips can't compete with superiour western fantasy.

They do cast spells. DnD didn't invent spells. Spells were a thing long before tabletop gaming.

Tabletop gaming codified them into what we have now, and that's what shitty isekai are based on. You're being obtuse.

Even if, spellcasting in both universes is completely different. Wizards in Tolkiens works are more like angels, born higher beings. They don't sit in a tower and study for their spells.

OP as much as I want to this it is simply not true and you know it. Maybe you can fool people who don't read manga, LNs, WNs but not me.

I want XIV adaptation with FMA:B quality.
>S1 will be boring but with awesome ending
>S2 is fabulous max
>S3 is Omega max
I just want to see this scene animated
>youtube.com/watch?v=xiFoB0ybBlQ

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Adding to this yes there are stuff like Ragna Crimson, Helck and so on but I wouldn't really call them popular.

They have no spellbooks, no specific range of spells with specific effects, they don't even do magic rituals. Only reason they are called wizards is because they are wise. They use WILLPOWER and INFLUENCE to affect the world and creatures in it, but it's absolutely not a codified magic.

I'm just saying we shouldn't automatically equate the term "spell" with the dnd version. It's an insult to non-dnd magic systems.

Slime, since it's getting an S2. Getting an S2 means it's popular enough for the people in charge

Saruman did cast a fireball once.

Guess I'll have to re-read LotR again, since the only supernatural feat I remember him doing was being extremely persuasive to the assailers of his tower (until Gandalf interrupted him).
Can you remind me which chapter fireball happened in?

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IT’S NOT NORMAL FANTASY BUT LN AND MANGA
Kill yourselves and fuck of to Yea Forums Yea Forums

Real world is different.

Tolkien elves literally cast spells.

youtu.be/0bG8CVUujhs?t=16

Slime S2 was planned from the start. And series started in like 2013.

Before SAO LN fantasy was not fucking video game shit 99% of the time.

But in this context, nips equate spells to dnd. I don't think there's a nip isekai / fantasy that doesn't have a dnd-based magic system.

Vast majority of nip fantasy has mana or MP not spell slots.

>DnD magic system
>not video games
I'm not sure, user.

Escaflowne
wuxia based isekai, the japanese ones of course

Pretty sure Gandalf casts a fireball too in the first book against a bunch of orcs, and besides, Tolkien absolutely did mean wizards in the magical sense and not just wise men. Also, Gandalf literally breaks the curse over that old king guy. He doesn't just talk him into getting better.
That said, it's true that they're not spells in the codified d&d sense. As some other user said, they're more like miracles performed by higher beings.

Is WHA's magic similar to DnD?

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That's because they quite literally are miracles performed by higher beings

What many people don't realize is that isekai is made for salarymen who work 16 hours a day and hate their life but don't have the guts to kill themselves. This is why unlike shit like battle harem almost every isekai MC was a 30+ salaryman before death. And it's not based on DnD it's based on Dragon Quest.

Gandalf casts fireballs on Wargs in Hobbit book.

>dnd invented magic
Nigger.

A new popular isekai made after 2016 as in written on narou after 2016 would not have an anime adaption are you being retarded on purpose? First they would have to recieve an LN adaption after that a manga adaption not to mention it takes years to write decent amount of volumes on narou just by itself nevermind receiving an adaption.
But if you want to know new isekai which is incredibly popular and almost guaranteed an anime adaption and already got a manga adaption despite being written in like 2018 look no further than:
Kage no Jitsuryokusha ni Naritakute!

Why do you people talk about something you have no idea about?

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Sauce on Slime S2 being planned from the start

Is Dragonquest any good?

>Isekai genre is Yea Forums core for decades
>suddenly all this hate for isekai
>LotRfags out of nowhere
Go back you your board. Fantasy anime with Conan like magic system will be boring slog. And in those settings "mind control" is most OP ability that authors forced to downgrade because of reasons. Magic my ass.

I know that, I was just saying that's the way one should look at it even though magic in the Tolkien universe isn't strictly limited to the Maiar and kin.
Right, my bad.

Never saw this one ranking anywhere.

They don't. Galadriel herself states how the idea of "magic" is alien to her. They just do stuff that seems magic to other races, because they are magical. There is no vancian casting.

>suddenly

Hate started with the spam of complete garbage Gary Stu self insert video game isekai. Nobody hated on stuff like Escaflowne or L5K.

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Because you don't know what 'anywhere' is

>garbage Gary Stu self insert
Literally fucking Escaflowne. Jesus Christ.

Because you're clueless anime only kun

Hell a lot MCs from 80-90s anime are "literally me" Gary Stu self insert characters.

Van wasn't a Gary Stu. He's an good warrior but that's it.

There's a lot of "light/flame" shor from his staff sort of magic use. But it could just be might/power and so on.
It certainly has magic and Tolkien has magic, but it is arcane, mysterious and unexplained as it shoudl be, instead of spells with names, classes, levels, mana pool, costs, and other rules.

Escaflowne manga is girl's wet self-insert dream of strong boymeat barbecue. Same for 12 Kingdoms. The difference however in world building. In modern isekai world building is often completely forgotten. But in 12 Kingdom for example it was written similar to Lotr

>mysterious and unexplained
Like plot armors and asspulls.
>It's magic. I ain't gotta explain shit

It was because he has the elven ring of fire, with which he amplified a burning conk into a fireball.
As for breaking the curse of Teoden, he removed Saruman's influence on him, not literally de-aged him, it's a movie-original invention.
I don't think this part counts, it's from movie adaptation, not the book itself.

Literally worthless. Call me when it sells enough to be called a hit.

Are you trying to imply LotR is hated on Yea Forums

>sells
This is your average Yea Forums poster

I hope all this fantasy cringe will die in favor of based science fiction in the near future.

My man.

Don't act like polls for isekai retards matter.

>he removed Saruman's influence on him, not literally de-aged him
He still literally broke a curse on him, regardless of the movie portrayal. It's not like Saruman's influence was psychological trickery. It was magic.
Are you really going to argue that Gandalf and Saruman, who are literally agents of God and are called Wizards, can't use any magic despite mountains of evidence to the contrary?

user that was written in 2018 and it got it's first LN volume just a few months back.
It's simply a new incredibly popular series which managed to receive an adaption in just 1 year and shows potential. That's what we're talking about.

don't reply to Yea Forumstards

years ago, DnD play retellings could provide better fantasy anime than you can get today
Thats how bastard started my nigga

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Normal poorly written fantasy slipped into isekai. First was LN stuff like Denetsu Yuusha, Rain and Roland. Then all those new game+ webnovels

That's a cute witch. And wow can't believe JK Haru got into any kind of top something list.

>2005: Sayama 3rd place
>2006: Sayama 2nd place
>2007: Sayama 1st place
The best character of all time.

Imagine hating the plot device known as isekai in the current year

I can't tell when the current year argument stopped being ironic on Yea Forums

We're near summer, that's all.

So, if isekai's losing popularity: What's the next fad?

That's just because Tolkein's wizards are plot devices. You can't get away with the traditional "a wizard that turns up and shove the protagonist into doing stuff while muttering mysteriously about fate and stuff" if you want mages to an integral part of the setting beyond eldritch beings that do the author's bidding.

I want video game shit to die off

Well you can make them an integral part of the setting, it's merely the fact that Wizards in Tolkien are so far up the powerlevel scale they're effectively just not involved in the same game as the rest. It's more like in a world operating on E6, every magic user is an epic caster.

Slime was succesful enough to get an S2 and Shield got a massive boost in manga and light novel sales

Have you even watched Rayearth? It is videogameshit, to the point that the main characters think they are trapped in a videogame the whole time because it plays out like a jrpg

Yeah but back then "it's like a videogame" meant much less than today - mostly quest/hero, no guild, stats, or even fucking GUI. I hardle remember actual game mechanics in there.

>incredibly popular series
>sells below 10k

Editors being desperate about pushing new hits means literally nothing.

Yeah, she's cute as fuck and also a great character. Can't wait for anime.

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There is not even one actually good isekai series made this decade. They are are trash.

I just read the manga. Wow she's quite an asshole. Or at least she isn't a generic goodie two shoes MC at all.

Starting the excuses early this year eh?

She's not really an asshole, she just takes her own safety very seriously.

A new LN fresh from narou selling around 8k+ shown in just oricon weekly ranking not to mention digital sales? Hell yes that is a good result.

Youjo Senki
Devil is a Part Timet

The world building in Goblin Slayer is that it literally a TRPG game played by real gods.

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the amount of spells cast by anyone barely amount to 10, at least sclearly defined ones. in a regular fantasy a mage throws 10 fireballs a day

Eh the second and third chapter of the manga clearly show her being a dick. I mean it doesn't veer of to edgy territory yet, but she certainly isn't your generic nice girl MC.

>TRPG game played by real gods
After playing couple of Rance games I can't go into that kind of anime no more. It pains me that lore of 90% of fantasy anime is so much inferior to the lore of some h game.

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Are h games the peak of fantasy, after all?

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Through dick, unity.

It's going to be amazing seeing people's reactions to the dragon chapters once manga gets there.

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VNs are the peak of media so naturally.

She's a textbook Chaotic Neutral and mostly because when she actually tries to be nice it bites her in the ass.

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Rance world was created over like 30 years. Early games were crap.

>Ascendance of a Bookworm
>Arifureta
>Re-Zero 2
>Mushoku Tensei
>I Reincarnated into an Otome Game as a Villainess With Only Destruction Flags…

Cop Craft sounds fun

Cop Craft is also not really isekai. And definitely not the typical video game kind.

>over like 30 years
Nah, Kichikuou Rance came in 1996. Everything after this were mostly just reimagined versions of already established concepts and events.

Yes, that is their world.
Do you think GS can actually kill all goblins? DM can spawn goblins from thin air.
Hero can change the world? She is actually a puppet for DM.
SM & her party create a miracle & manage to defeat Demon Lord? DM can spawn new Demon Lord anytime.
GM is still bound by fate & chance? Fate & Chance is also a GM.
The story is actually about some game pawns trying to survive in a world where, depending on DM's mood, a beginner quest can escalate into the fight against Lovecraftian Demon.

>Cop Craft
More like the author is fucking uneducated shit and thinks medieval people doesn't know about crop rotation and thinks jap's onions sauce shit is grestest invention

Rance's setting isn't even really good or anything they just had a shitload of games in there so now they have a pretty nice cast and some nice locations. The world itself is still incredibly generic.

>90% of normal fantasy stories don't have video game stats or gary stu leads

This is not true at all, I would say only 20% don't have it nowadays. I mean like come on, we have a fuck ton of reincarnation so the OP MC can be even OPier. A ton Native MCs that were thought to be weak but turns out to be insanely OP. ... etc.

That's the thing. You can make the most generic of settings good with either a good story or enough DECENT content.

Don't forget Seirei Gensouki

If you're talking Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu, that shit wasn't poorly written. It just got butchered by its insanely shitty anime adaption.

Paradox is so fucking trippy

I mean you do have to remember that generic isn't an insult
If something is so popular as to be generic it does mean that there's something about it that literally just works

VN's are a dying medium. Mobage took their place.

And thats a good thing

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>Pay-to-win cookie clicker but with cute girls

I am very happy that people who falls for this shitty culture are going bankrupt, because they deserve it.

>It has averaged over 2K at this point. That's not "flopped hard."
That is a complete flop m8

>People are still arguing about sales.
Seriously, what's the point? If something like Tsugumomo can get s2 with abysmal sales and something like Hataraku Maou-sama can not, then I think that it is safe to assume that sales mean literally nothing.

Don't forget HandShakers. Original anime project. Flops massively. Somehow got an S2 (W'Z. Aired on winter) set 10 years later focused on new characters, but the old cast returns and are important allies to the S2 MC

>old cast returns
Wait, did she return too? If she did I may have to watch it.

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Yes.

>Devil is a Part Timet
>after 2016
OP's a retard, but you're even worse.

Mobage can be good but it's extremely rare.

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Why do you say that? I personally enjoyed the anime way more than the LN, which had really crappy prose that I simply couldn't sit through after a while.

Then you should know how much detail the anime have skipped, I started off as an anime fag for this series and got really confused because of the things that they did not mention. Maybe the LN wasn't that good but I just thought that it was better than the anime.

I didn't watch/read Goblin Slayer, but some level of RPG [tabletop or otherwise] elements have pretty much been a mainstay of Yea Forums fantasy for decades. If your definition of "real fantasy" is that pure, then the contamination was booming by the early nineties with like Ozanari Dungeon and Rayearth and shit. I don't like that kind of stuff myself, but it's not new.

I think it might be novelty/speciality used as comedy gimmick back then, while it takes itself seriously and as something normal.

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Well, I only got to volume four or five, and during that time I don't remember anything that made me go "Man, they shouldn't have skipped this," although it's possible I'm forgetting. I mostly just remember the anime feeling more immersive and the character interactions, which were the main appeal for me, working much better in animated format with VAs and faces and everything.

I actually looked up Rain for the first time in ages a few weeks back to see if it was over at last, and turns out it's forever incomplete because the author died a month or two ago. Wasn't a good series, probably wouldn't have gone back to finish it, but I feel kind of sad about that.

I don't understand the complaints about guilds and guild ranks, are those things even that common in JRPGs other than the monster hunter franchise?

>My evil magic eyes make me stronger than anyone else!

That 90s stuff just felt way deeper than the shit we have now.

It wasn't the eye that mattered.

You are just not looking for correct series. There are plenty of great non isekai fantasy novels coming out.

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These designs look generic and uninspired as hell.

> ???
Hey I think I've seen her somewhere else before.

What, you want heterochromia and mecha parts or something?

All I'm finding is some gook shit
Where is this from?

mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=143822

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thank you kindly

>look them up
>they're a billion years behind on scans

>heterochromia and mecha parts
Not necessary. I just want something that is not as generic as wizards hats + school/naval uniform or yandere lolis with kitchen knives. Something like pic related would be nice. Simple yet memorable

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Elaina manga is scanned very fast, novels are in translation limbo for half a year though.

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There's only three up on mangadex though, why?

Because it started coming out just recently.

fug
Last chapter is a month ago, it's up to date anyway?

I think ch.4 came out in japan recently. It's the past with her teacher one.

I wonder what comes next since novel has structure hard to adapt into manga chapters. But the princess chapter is going to destroy people if ch.2 already made a shitstorm on mangadex.

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But Lina's design is also generic and those shoulder pads are super stupid.

Hey, it was the 80s. Shoulderpads were a thing, including in real life.

>shoulder pads are super stupid
It is one of the best things about characters designs in fantasy from 90's. They are simply sexy as hell. And I wish that char designers would bring them back at some point in the future.

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At least she has breastplate. Bare tummy and legs still make no sense with that, but looks less absurd.

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>literally a group of mages
They're basically minor deities. Not mages.

>Yes there are differences but at the core it's the same goddamn thing.
Comparing your average D&D story with LoTR is like comparing a bag of chips with a four star meal. And I say that as somebody who isn't some massive tolkien nerd.

>Isekai genre is Yea Forums core for decades
Isekai as a genre has only existed for about a decade. Unless you seriously want to claim Narnia and Super Mario Bros are a Isekai.

>suddenly all this hate for isekai
It's always been hated. It's a shit genre.

Because it is not for protection but for fashion. They are mages, they do not need heavy armor for protection. Also if you want to judge every design from practical point of view then everyone in fantasy anime would look like this fucker. It might be practical but it is boring as hell.

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Recently found this, got a couple laughs, regular fantasy non isekai

mangakakalot.com/chapter/aliciasan_no_diet_quest/chapter_11

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What if practical and fully covering armor designs are really sexy? For me at least?

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>LoTR was a attempt by one guy to come up with his own ridiculously detailed mythology and tells a genuinely epic story with deeply woven themes.
>D&D came along and codified the whole genre into a mold mostly intended for simple stories to play with your friends and pulp fiction.
>GoT turned the entire genre into a edgefest focused on politics, sex, and violence.
>Isekai takes what little remains of the genre and turns it into a wish fulfillment fantasy for lonely suicidal nerds.

Is there any genre that suffered as much as fantasy did?

>visors down
Wrong

>GoT turned the entire genre into a edgefest focused on politics, sex, and violence.
>implying there wasn't plenty of fantasy before GoT that were schlock like this

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Did this get axed? I looked it up and there's only 11 chapters at Completed.

ok this is based
too many stories forget that visor hinges exist for a reason

Dark fantasy stories existed. But they were usually a lot more creative. GoT turned it into a subgenre, and then turned that subgenre into pure trash.

>muh edge makes a worse story than one built around game mechanics
the problem with fantasy is that the interesting stuff about alternate societies and the implications of new technology is always written as science fiction. most people aren't autistic enough to describe a consistent enough fantastical setting that they can say anything interesting about their world. asoiaf is much better in that regard than most fantasy.

Not completed yet (3 volumes came out).
The author tweeted that he got a new publisher (Cycomics) a year ago, but I have not heard anything more yet, anywhere.
twitter.com/gouranga_/status/967271795861549056

I thought it would make a great CGDCT anime, so I was quite sad to see it axed. People have shit taste.

Go to any bookstore in the fantasy section and you'll find tons of shit from the 70s and 80s that's even worse than GoT.

I'll take edge over video game mechanics any day of the week. I literally flat out refuse to watch any show that uses writing THAT lazy.

It has good art too
Did it publish in a relatively big magazine? It feels like these small hobby manga make far more sense in small or medium mags where they can flourish instead of get buried under the Next Big Thing

I present the cure for isekai.
CGDCT ISEKAI!

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>Is there any genre that suffered as much as fantasy did?
science fiction
>I wonder what the future will hold, what will Man do to overcome nature and nurture increasingly complex problems? What ethical questions and perspectives will it bring?
flash forward
>alien shows up
>fuck the alien or be fucked by its tentacles

Yeah the guy's not dumb he knows where it's time to compromise.
Usually makes those "inner thoughts" face shots in the fight scenes so that the girls aren't drawn in helmets the whole chapter.

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I don't know. I still feel some actually deep Sci fi stories get released now and then. Fantasy meanwhile...

Oh fuck I didn't realize it was the same manga
What the fuck how did this get axed

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i thought you were talking about books. i don't watch it but my impression is that the directors are dumb normalfags who don't understand worldbuilding either

Most anime that have video game mechanics in a isekai setting started out as a light novel.

>fuck the alien or be fucked by its tentacles
This is human nature at its very deepest

Right? Fun club activities of cute girls in medieval armor with hardcore nerd shit about historical weapons and stuff?
That could make an anime of the decade if used well.

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aliens showing up can be good because it allows you to contrast your society and humanity's biological biases with theirs

Is this like bamboo blade but with HEMA instead of Kendo?

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I don't think an illiterate ESL like you should be calling anyone else "uneducated."

And CHIVALRIC autism of course.

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Guess I should at least check what porn the author drew, if it doesn't resume.

>Serialized In (magazine)
>Dengeki G's Comic (ASCII Media Works)
according to manga updates

I should watch that one day.