ITT: Characters who are hated by everyone in their show for no apparent reason

ITT: Characters who are hated by everyone in their show for no apparent reason.

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>no apparent reason
he is annoying

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I actually love him very much and I also want to husband him

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>no apparent reason
He's a painful tryhard. Fans love him, though.

People love satania, but hate Satafags

Body temperature desunya

It's the Japanese mentality of "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down," basically. Him being "put in his place" is supposed to be funny, but sometimes it crosses the line into sad.

Sorry, we're already married.

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But I love him

>It's the Japanese mentality of "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down," basically. Him being "put in his place" is supposed to be funny, but sometimes it crosses the line into sad.
Is this real

Yes.

Hosaka from Minami-ke. He's hated by pretty much everyone in his class apart from one girl. This is despite being friendly even to those who try to attack him, helpful, muscular, a brilliant cook, and athletic enough to be head of the volleyball team.

The question is talking about who's hated in their own series by other characters, not who's hated by the fandom. Raphi likes Satania, although only in a sadistic kind of way.

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I'm pretty sure trying too hard to look cool is universal.
>we're already married
As much as any other husbandofag is.

Northern european countries are the same, so don't act surprised.
Look up 'tall poppy syndrome' and 'Law of Jante'.

>so don't act surprised.
I'm south-american, so...

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Point being it's a more widespread phenomenon and a well-known mentality in Japan. Unless you're a dumb newfag.

>well-known mentality in Japan
Sure, everyone knows it.
>it's a more widespread phenomenon that affects European people
This I didn't know.

>Sure, everyone knows it.
>Is this real

Osomatsu-san... now that's a name I haven't heard in years. I used to really enjoy it until the characters shifted from somewhat likeable to just plain unbearable.

Season two's writing felt pretty shaky overall, but holding off on a sequel for fucking years sure didn't help.

This is why I love living in america. We've murder all the hammers here so nails can do whatever they please, and if another hammer pops up we just kill it and continue with our autism

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Season 2 (aside from a handful of episodes) was a lot weaker. We still have the movie to wait for subs for, though.

I'd rather they take their time on something good than rush it. There has been a never-ending flow of official art and merch in between the gaps. Unfortunately s2 just wasn't written that great, and had a weird lack of animation bumps unlike s1.

What makes that gap in time between seasons even stranger is that the first season was so incredibly successful in Japan. For a plot-driven story, I understand taking time and care to create a good finished product. But this isn't exactly highbrow stuff.

It seemed less like they were taking their time to make something good, and more like they were leaning on merch money as long as they could before having to make more episodes.

What makes you think we are the same person?

>We've murder all the hammers here so nails can do whatever they please
God bless America and the West honestly

Because you responded to as if you were, obviously.

Interviews revealed that the skits the writers had planned for a potential s2 were scrapped and made into Drama CD skits, which explains why some of them are wasted potential.

I will say that even during 2016-2017 there were Drama CD skits released. I personally really don't think it was that long of a waiting period. Lots of series go much longer or never make more seasons at all.

>am surprised by european autism
>"don't act surprised"

It was long enough that a lot of fans got tired of waiting and moved on, which seems like too long for this kind of series.

Nobody cares where you're from or that something only tangentially related surprised you, enough already.

You quoted me first, baka.

Mostly western fans. The Japanese side has a constant flow of fanart and never stopped.

Is this an Osomatsu-san thread now? I'm okay with that.

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Yeah 1.5 years is nothing and the fujo goldfish narrative is stupid.

It is still true of western fujo, for the most part.

I don't know enough about them to contest that so I believe you.

You're stretching what I said, I didn't say that timespan is "nothing."

Western fujoshi are very quick to move onto the next big thing. Ex. the majority jumped to YOI after Osomatsu-san, or became Voltron shippers. I think the brothers are adorable design-wise, but they have shallower beauty ideals so it was easy to move on to something else.

Eh I dunno about that. I've seen nip twitter and pixiv artists that made really good ososan art completely abandon it a couple months after it's ended. Pic related is an example

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>but they have shallower beauty ideals
Why would they find the matsus appealing in the first place, then?

Karamatsu is pure, desu.

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Some of why he acts like a good guy is to show off what a good guy he is, though. He's deeper than just "good boy who does no wrong," like too many fans seem to show him. Feel like it shortchanges his character a bit.

It's a shame they reduced jyushi to just a mindless moron that says BOEH!! all the time in s2, I hope he's not like that in the movie

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subs never ever

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You got me there. Maybe the bishonenified fanart.

Not that user but I find that aspect pretty relatable. He just wants to be acknowledged. And spoiled. Which in a roundabout way makes him even cuter. I dislike it when fans say he has no flaws, though. I enjoy his rivalry with Osomatsu, and the times he gets frustrated or does something stupid just as endearing.

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Didn't mean it wasn't a relatable flaw, but I agree that he shines more with his flaws.
I really want to see everyone's character development.

Do you think there'll be a s3? Or is the series exhausted already?

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I seem to recall some official material - most recent drama CD, maybe? - signing off with something like "see you again," so that might be a good sign. Wish I could remember better, fuck me.

He's the best ani an older brother could ever be.

>most hated character in the show
>most popular character in real life
How does he do it

Less negative flaws than the others, I guess.

No it's cool, I got what you meant.

>character development
I think a weakness of s2 is that they threw away the slight hint of continuity s1 had. The attitude of "we can reuse Jyushimatsu's girlfriend and not even acknowledge it because it's a 'skit'" is a shitty move. I try not to get too invested, but I can't help but want to cling on to what "canon" we have.

I think it's likely. I only hope that it's better. At least the s2 finale was better than the s1 finale, so even if there isn't any more it still ended on a good note. I do think there's a whole lot of untapped potential though. For instance they can keep the status quo by having them all jobless by the end, but try having them try stuff, and stick to stories that amount to something more than one dragged out scene.

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Fuck, now I'm remembering how many AUs the second season had, drove me a little crazy. It's more fun when they actually try stuff themselves, like you said.

I liked the s1 drama CDs. In all honesty they could've made great episode material, but for some reason matsubara scrapped all the potential ideas when s2 was announced. Now I'll never be able to see gay bar waitress jyushi

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So did the dub get off the ground yet? It feels like a lost cause imo, the shows too niche

>dubs
I'd be more worried about the cultural humor. Osomatsu's hardly niche.

>Cultural humor
That's what I meant, my bad.

Not sure, I don't watch dubs. Maybe it ties in with the western fujos losing interest. Not enough fans to bother getting it done, or advertise it much.

They really overdid it, stuff like the Three Kingdoms skit were unfunny and dragged on for far too long.

That said I think s2 ep 1 set the bar really high. It also made a hilarious scenario that was still "our" matsus (so it mattered), and had some really fun animation.

I've been trying to avoid the term but s2 was surprisingly lacking in the sakuga department. Season 1 had even some at-home scenes be lovingly animated, and it really added to the humour and charm of the show. For some stupid reason s2 wasted their animation bumps on things like an entire skit of Dekapan and Dayon chasing each other. Though I did appreciate the Catherine reference in that.

Yeah, that was a really stupid move on Matsubara's part. I personally loved the skit where Kara and Totty compete to be the better host, and both lose in the end. The potential for the visuals of that one ... also, of course, Kara narrating his day.

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>Three Kingdoms skit and Dekapan/Dayon chase
Those were unbearable, made it hard to keep watching at all.
I wish they'd done a bit more like the proper-Matsus, those were a blast and pushed their creativity more.

Dayon was just bad overall in san, he was much better with his random roles in 1988 kun

Not to powerlevel but I did meet the dub vas for Kara and Totty back in November, and got to hear their voices for them. There was a rumour going around that they had already finished dubbing season 1, but when I asked them about it they said "uh, no, we've only dubbed like four episodes"

I'm a bit hesitant about the changes in dubs nowadays, but the people in charge of the localization seem to be big fans themselves, so maybe we should trust them. That said I'm baffled by the lack of promotion for it so they must be not that far into it.

The "Ichimatsu can't sleep" one was so torturous that I actually looked at the timestamp for the first time. They already did the idea in s1, and they already did it well.

Yeah I loved the famous matsus (the meta humour was brilliant) and the proper matsus. They were used well and pushed the jokes further and further which got my expectations up.

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pure cringe

>Dayon
I just want to say to whoever it might interest that Dayon's seiyuu is the same person who voice my anger-issued autismo baby Zeta Gundam protagonist Kamille Bidan.

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Eternal punching bag. I hated that he didn't end up with anyone in Clannad.

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Looks like a girl

Objective shipping rank
Ichikara

dudenobodycares.tiff

I don't ship any of them, but seeing Jyushi and Ichi hang out is my favorite.

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IchiKara is the worst, but also I don't ship any of them. These days I prefer seeing characters as good friends more than shipping them, anyway.

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This x10

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Weird how the manga just disappeared, it was pretty good

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If he was real I would suck his cock so hard he wouldn't be able to walk for two days

big time dude
Its why there are so many rape/ntr doujins that could be solved by shit like screaming or even saying stop loudly
You make a scene and its seen as worse

Yeah it didn't feel like "Osomatsu-san but less funny" like your average matsu pixiv comic.

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Drawfag is that you?

i wish dude

>tfw third child
wtf I don't want to be fappymatsu, he's boring af.

Plebeian taste

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The manga's still continuing. I saw (Japanese) volume 8 in a store.

Please, I'm a little less crude than that.

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Why does official art put Ichi and Kara together so much? To appease fujos? It's tiring.

I don't even know what the movie twitter is advertising these days

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Look at this fucking weenie

I hope you're just having a giggle.

Kind of. I know why, it's just tiresome.

That's pretty gay

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I thought I was overthinking it too but a lot of official art groups them by popular pairing. Oso and Choro are often next to each other too, as well as Jyushi with Totty. I think it may be a subtle form of pandering.

Why is Oso such a fat fuck?
>Jyushi and totty
I dunno if that's a popular pairing as much as it's they don't have anyone to pair up with

i love him

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It's a case of "pair the spares," I mean. I've seen fanart for it, it has it's own little niche. There are doujins that feature all three of those pairings.

Choro's v-mouth is cute.

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That is sum cray cray shit.

She was pretty annoying, but not being a smiling retard 24/7 isn't a good reason to get bullied either

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Being a Chorofag is suffering. He would be the most likely to browse Yea Forums, but even Yea Forums hates his guts in true 4channel fashion. I bought two pieces of rather expensive merchandise of him a year ago and now I don't know what to fucking do with them. I'll sell them, eventually. But now they sit there on the shelf, taunting me for my mistakes.

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>Thumbnail
He looks like the kinda person who can't swim

Choro gets loads of focus in the actual anime, though. In that regard you're super lucky.

And what are the pieces of merch in question? I'm curious.

Is it? I saved it from a thread, obviously, so I never bothered to check.
Also that's why he has a float.

It's such a stupid piece of merch but I want it anyways

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yes, japs like uniformity for some reason

That is true, which was nice. Especially in the second season; according to hearsay, the director was disappointed that Choromatsu and Todomatsu were the least popular of the six, which is why they got the spotlight. But he was so one-note that I eventually got bored and moved on. He was one of my favorite characters for a long time, though.

To answer your question, I bought the Nendoroid and sheep costume plush on eBay, because I didn't know how to properly buyfag then. Even now, they're very cute. Pic related.

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I can't blame you, that is pretty adorable. One thing I applaud the merchandising for is the sheer variety of ways they dressed the characters up. As an example, this should be illegal.

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That nendoroid is staring into my soul and is making me very uncomfortable

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He really did overdo it with Choro and Totty. It got to a point where it was obvious, even. Made me like them less.

Those are cute things, though! I'd keep them. But then again I keep everything.

Holy fuck that's adorable

>He really did overdo it with Choro and Totty.
feels good to be both a todofag and chorofag

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Patrician tase. Choro is forever the best and cutest Matsu.

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why is his froggy mouth so cute bros?

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It'll be okay, user, he's not possessed by demons. Probably.
Well, I've certainly held onto them this long, so I doubt I'll get around to selling them any time soon. But this thread and conversation has reignited my interest in the series, so I think I'll intentionally hold onto him a bit longer. Besides, it's always nice to have quality figures in your collection!
See, this is what happens when you legalize green substances. They're highly addictive and far too cute/froggy.

>Legalize green substances
Which matsu would be the most likely to smoke pot?

I want the plushie with the blank stare that costs more than any other brother now.

i hate this character even though i've never ever watched the show solely because of an avatarfag on Yea Forums and because of all the gay porn of him

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obviously

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Famous Ichi was so funny.

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I love how he was the only skinny one.

All of them