Nasuverse

How would Dead Apostle Ancestors fare against servants?

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Compatibility.
In general DAA are stronger.

They'd have a hard time killing but a harder time being killed, so maybe that's a net positive?

Depends on DAA and servant.
For example Nrvnqsr would be blown away by Excalibur but destroy Ionioi Hetairoi in an epic battle, just like the tentacle god did.
TATARI would fight any hero as a dark mirror of themselves and could only be sent away by Enuma Elish or a saint.
Primate Murder (Beast IV if you recall) slaughters anything below all seven Grands. Killing humans is its job, and it is very, very good at it.
And ORT kills everybody including the grands because the spider is the unbeatable superboss.

Probably just whoever has more mana or who is a hard counter, like everything else in that setting

Solomon would nuke ORT out of existence

And do you have any evidence that would even work in the Crystal Valley?
First rule about fighting ORT: you are not playing chess, you're playing calvinball. We don't know the spider's rules.

Solomon can reset the universe if he so wanted
he also has a pet beast and access to all human magic

He could literally physically hit it with enough energy to utterly annihilate it

>do we have evidence that it would work in the Crystal Valley
we have no evidence it wont, Ars Almadel Solomonis is a raw energy attack, one that relies on no concept, its simply enough energy to make sure whatever is in front of it becomes dead

>Solomon can reset the universe if he so wanted
No, he cannot. That requires 3000 years of human history converted into fuel or the second true magic.
>he also has a pet beast and access to all human magic
Goetia doesn't really listen to Solomon anymore.
>we have no evidence it wont
Except Nasu saying that comparing servants to ORT is pointless because earth's rules don't apply. "Enough energy to utterly annihilate it"? Energy annihilating things is a part of earth's reality, not mercury's. Physics, cause and effect, logic, these are not things you need presume apply within the Crystal Valley.

The question is moot, DAA dont exist in the Fate timelines. Unless some retcon happened that I am not aware of, which is likely.

Everything comes down to compatibility but on average I think on average a servant is stronger than an average DAA. The top tier DAA though are in a league of their own so they would stomp most servants easily with a few exceptions.

They coexist in crossover worlds like F/GO and Strange Fake.

Well Roa jobbed to Dantes when he was alive

>No, he cannot.
Everything goetia can do solomon could do
>Goetia doesent listen anymore
because Solomon chose to stop being Solomon, allowing Goetia to take over

>physical force doesent work
"Can't be killed by Eyes of Instant Death. Doesn't have the concept of death so you'll have to destroy it physically."

Yeah, why is this so hard for retards to understand?

He isn't a DAA in fate timeline otherwise Dantes would get fucked. Roa was one of the strongest DAA in his prime.

He has his DAA abilities, but Dantes just burned his soul anyways

No he wouldn't.

>Everything goetia can do solomon could do
Bullshit, Goetia himself says he is stronger and Solomon agreed.
>"Can't be killed by Eyes of Instant Death. Doesn't have the concept of death so you'll have to destroy it physically."
And magecraft isn't physical. For all that means, you might have to actually, physically, with your hands, smash ORT apart.

Goetia is solomons familiar, and what he achieves is done through puppeting Solomons corpse

>magecraft isnt physical
energy however is, he doesent need magic, just a beam of pure energy strong enough to glass a planet

>Goetia is solomons familiar, and what he achieves is done through puppeting Solomons corpse
And 3000 years of plotting and engineering. Ars Almadel Salomonis didn't come out of nowhere. His entire plan has to succeed, step by step by step, for thousands of years, to get where he is. If Lev commits suicide in 2015 then the time bomb fails to detonate and send everything back.
So are you giving Solomon 3000 years of activity for no reason?
>energy however is, he doesent need magic, just a beam of pure energy strong enough to glass a planet
And he doesn't HAVE that. Goetia does, but not Solomon.

Ars Almadel Salomonis, the rings of light which erased human history? Thats SOLOMONS NP

Goetia was a maggot inside the corpse, a being glutted on stolen power.

>for no reason
Solomon has a temple outside of time if you havent forgotten, he could have 300,000,000 years if he wanted

>Ars Almadel Salomonis, the rings of light which erased human history? Thats SOLOMONS NP
Yep, you have failed to understand anything about Goetia at all. Solomon can't use it freely. Solomon can't use ANY of his NPs freely.
>Solomon has a temple outside of time if you havent forgotten, he could have 300,000,000 years if he wanted
Not how timelessness works, much less that would get you no cumulative energy at all because the entire point of Goetia's plan was using the energy generated by human history.

No he didn't. DAA only exist in Tsukihimeverse. The Roa in Fate was extremely nerfed

The powerlevels of DAAs vary wildly but the highest-tier ones are more like forces of nature than people so 'fighting' them becomes very abstract and hard to picture. In general the abilities of DAA's tend to work in extremes and absolutes like a lot of early Nasu writing so you have powers that are situationally unbeatable but narrow in their application.

So it would very much come down to matchups, though it's pretty safe to say a lot of the recent canon introduced in FGO, like Grand Servants, mean that generally speaking the Human Order is a stronger fighting force than the Crimson Moon-affiliated entities.

Wish we saw more Aoko-sensei in Carnival