She's so cute

Based

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I want pull down that corset and titfuck her so hard

>implying

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I love Remilia

Everyone gets better in the LN. WNfags like overplaying the importance of cut no longer canon scenes from the rough draft known as the WN

Want to watch this. Is this has an edgy feeling in it ? also is the S1 end in cliffhanger or not ?

Be more subtle with the bait, user-kun.
Yes and yes.

retard

Damn, i avoid this then.

No, and No.

>tells others they're baiting. Lies to some ESL newfag

generic design, garbage character

So, which is it ? Im in a mood for Isekai shit. Or maybe i should watch YS instead.

>t. shitposters.
WN is the rough draft and chapters get edited or even outright deleted
LN is the polished canon product.

It doesn't feel edgy(Overlord is Edgy) and it doesn't end in a cliffhanger

the LN is the gutted and edited massproduct made for 12 years old while the WN is the actual story with better scenes and fleshed out characters

>I haven't read 1-3 of the WN
While they're almost exactly same storywise the WN has too much autist tier humor and randumbness. The LN is the superior product and no one will argue otherwise other than shitposters like yourself

go ahead and enjoy your generic shit taste LN

I love Emilia

It took me too long to figure out what that pose was supposed to be
Dumb outfit

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She's an ugly bitch who ought to get raped by the 7 deadly sins till she dies. Now Rem? that's a waifu

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Good luck, she's pretty flat.

What kind of a woman would wear such a revealing outfit as her regular wear? Just imagine, if you looked in different angles, her areole would be in full view.

I love her

Not Rie's best work
Takagi > Megumin >>> Mashu > Emilia

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>He doesn't know the beauty of titfucking a girl with small breasts
We have nothing in common

Betty > Felt > Ram > Emilia > Rem

Rem is shit
Even her sister and the loli are better

Rem is the ultimate slave housewife

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Based

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Objectively wrong. Unironically kill yourself

Rem would be a willing slave due to her desire to make life easier for her SO so its okay

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this

today we remind them

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low iq opinion

This. Rem is shit and Remfags are cancer
Beako best girl

Am I a contrarian for liking Felt?

She’s far and away the best Princess, and better than that slut Rem.

Kys

Only 2 of the bishops might be capable of rape and that’s wrath (to humiliate Emilia) and lust because that’s her shtick. The others are all pure. Emilia is quite safe.

I kinda want to get on this, but I don't even know how or where to start, there's like 4 different mangas and I don't trust the anime is worth my time.

literally made for anal

>doesn't feel edgy
>Overlord is Edgy
Hahahahahaha. This garbage is more edgy that overlord.

>Betty > everything
This.

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Ahem...

FUCK EMILIA AND FUCK REM

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I'd rather fuck Beatrice.

Do spirits have the parts necessary to do that?

Elaborate on this

Overlord is more edgy simply due to the fact that the protagonists torture and kill innocents. Subaru may suffer, but he's the good guy for now.

I'm comparing the animes. Overlord skips over almost every edgy thing that happens because the studio making it is shit. The only thing that's remotely edgy is Clems death and the episode when those plebs invaded Nazarick, and even then most edgy shit didn't make it to the anime.
Meanwhile, every scene with the lunatic cultist in ReZero is edgy, at least visually.
Both shows are edgy in their own way, but Re:Zero being of better quality actually got more edgy scenes.

but that's a vampire

I find funny how -every single time- Rie gets overshadowed by a better seiyu in every show she does.
Takagi-san
>Konomi Kohara
Konosuba
>Amamiya Sora
>Mashu
Aoi Yuki
>Re-ddit
Inori Minase

It is edgy and I say this as a fan. Mostly the healthy dose of edge but sometimes it gets too much.

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It's true, but they're better than Emilia too.

>Betelgeuse
>Edgy
You're retarded

Everything in Overlord is edgier.

>Rie got overshadowed in Konosuba

Sora might be the better VA, but Megumin is what made that show popular.

It's not and you should learn what edginess is. Subaru's suffering and deaths weren't edgy. Sending people to rape camps, making furniture from their bodies, or having a villain that brutally tortures people is edgy(and it's even edgier when the MC had it done to people/.)

There's a far difference between AgK and Overlord and Re:Zero

>WN is the rough draft and chapters get edited or even outright deleted
Nope.

>AgK or* Overlord, and Re:zero

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>The LN is the superior product
No one, and I mean no one actually believes this.

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What a fucking jobber

Tappei believes it, as does the anime production staff.

I’m going to kill that son of a bitch next time my unit does exercises in Finland

>I haven't read 1-3 of the WN
Stop using Beako to shitpost. Everyone who has read arc1-3 on the WN and LN agree.

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Proof?

>Jobber

She isn't actually supposed to be strong though. Puck is the only jobber in Re Zero.

Uhh she’s incredibly strong with like infinite mana

She is.
I like the twin maids more though.

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I’m not talking about 1-3. The first three arcs are fine in the LN. but arcs 4 and 5 are fucking gutted and clearly inferior

No we don’t. A shit ton of characterization is lost between WN -> LN, you know which happens to be important for a character driven story. You keep excluding Arc 4 because LN Arc 4 is fucking trash compared to the WN.

But what can she do with it?

The anime team are autistic Emilia fags that have to resort to dress up to make her more interesting.

Her current combat style is pretty inefficient as stay back and throwing snow balls is way more effective then making ice weapons and engaging in cqc which she will lose against most opponents. It’s like who ever picked her style was on what would look the cutest.

>A shit ton of characterization is lost between WN -> LN
You realize arcs 1-3 were almost exactly the same but with less crude jokes or autism right. The characters were polished into what the author wanted them to be rather than vague archetypes. You know since the WN is a rough draft. But I'm fairly certain you're just parroting what you heard without doing any required reading yourself.

Here you go faggot
ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/

Remember a while back when I said that contrarian shitposters had taken beako as their banner? This is what I was talking about.

You're a blind fanboy.

Stop pretending to have read it.

She's canonically bigger than Rem

>ignoring arcs 4-5
No one cares about arcs 1-3 cause they were mostly done right. However, the end of arc 3 was where shit started to spiral out of control. Including Emilia in the coma scene was the beginning of the end.

If I wanted boobs I would rather choose Elsa or Priscilla. Rem's smol build makes her rather small size much larger than it is.

I posted Beako in response to Beako being posted by a shitposter paranoid user. But I guess everyone who disagrees with your uninformed circlejerk is a contrarian.

>You know since the WN is a rough draft.
How can that be true when the very idea that this would be adapted into a LN did not exist when he began writing it? As you said the crude jokes, Subaru’s autism are not fit for a LN. Why would he write that if it was a rough draft?

>But I guess everyone who disagrees with your uninformed circlejerk is a contrarian.
Someone who waltzs in here to speak the opposite of what was believed here for several years is a contrarian.

No one here believes the LN is a superior product. We and our 2ch/5ch counterparts enjoy those “crude jokes” and “autism” so fuck off to where ever you came from.

I understand that the LN Emilia shilling traumatized us all but the anime staff aren't actually Emiliafags. They're mostly Puckfags and Priscillafags, beware of Puck looking like the nicest cat dad in the second season. All of them admitted that Rem is more of a main heroine than Emilia too and that's not an easy remark to say.

It’s pretty easy to say once you read the source material

You mean the source material where Rem is out of the story for most of it?

>Why would he write that if it was a rough draft?
Is this your first WN -> LN series?

>Someone who waltzs in here to speak the opposite of what was believed here for several years is a contrarian.
I've been here for many years unfortunately even when you faggots were parroting the ESL and his incorrect/biased translations.

>We and our 2ch/5ch counterparts enjoy those “crude jokes” and “autism” so fuck off to where ever you came from.
You can't even speak for Yea Forums on arcs 1-3 and you expect me to believe you have even the slightest idea of what Nips think? Here go ask them
may.2chan.net/b/futaba.php?mode=cat&sort=3

May want to take google translate with you as I doubt you can read otherwise

>calling the more fleshed out and detailed version a rough draft
retard

I mean the source material where Subaru is very reliant on Rem for support, like how Main Heroines are supposed to support the Main Character. The same source material where Tappei has stated that the Heroine of Arc 3 was Rem which happens to be most of the anime.
twitter.com/nezumiironyanko/status/309642372436869121

>Rem is out of the story for most of it?
Except she(or something that looks like her) returns to support the MC several times

You're someone that thinks the plural of anime is animes

>I've been here for many years unfortunately even when you faggots were parroting the ESL and his incorrect/biased translations.
no you haven’t.

>muh grammars

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If the WN was a rough draft, the LN is in a sad state since the WN is infinitely more enjoyable and better written.

>Is this your first WN -> LN series?
What I’m trying to get at is the reality that Tappei wasn’t trying to write a LN. He wrote Re:Zero because he wanted to write a story, if you read WNs it’s painfully obvious one is written to become a LN.

>obvious one is
Obvious when one is

Her face looks weird there, like she's some kind of alien.

Tappei come back
i need a new chapter.

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how do you say Re:zero? just rezero or are-e-zero

REE COLON ZERO

Ri zirou

>or are-e-zero

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They say a militant group of Emiliafags have kidnapped him and are trying to torture him into writing more Emiliafag pandering chapters but he’s so intent on keeping “Emilia” his that he refuses to write them. Tappei is such a purity fag he doesn’t want other people to like her

Anime really caused Emilia to seem like a one dimensional character with a two dimensional relationship with Sub. But fuck it is it bad witting, because the most personal and relational development was with Rem and yet he gives this massive confession to Em still. After all that time apart and shit, like nothing happened.

Fuck it they botched the development

Is arc 5 still being translated?

Have you read the source material or read the posts about how the Emiliafag director cut every scene that Subaru shows his affection to Rem? Including the one where Subaru confessed to Rem.

Yes, Chapter 63 was posted on April 19th

what is the pose supposed to be

>discount is still dead and the imposter is still running loose
I miss him.

>Him

Is he the emiliafag who got butthurt that no one liked her?

Alright cool, I gotta catch up, I got super burned out after arc 4, hopefully 5 is better.

The real discount is a man. The female persona is an imposter.

Discount is the savior of the Re:Zero WN translations. He has saved us from the clutches of evil translation chicken and the famine caused by the disappearance of Summary user. Never speak ill of his great work again.

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>I got super burned out after arc 4
It's called the stardust crusaders of Re:Zero for a reason. Even the author said there was alot of waste. Should have waited for the LN or anime user

Yup. So it stings even more with that bullshit ending and the Emilia praise arc we're about to enter
No justice for rem only emiliafags

But the LN of arc 4 is garbage tier. Ruined so many great scenes

Someone said that LN arc 5 was better.

They were wrong

I mean its exactly stardust crusaders, it did really cool things and set up cool stuff for later, but it took way too long.

LN Arc 4 isn't bad. Anons are taking a complaint of "it's not as good as the WN" and snowballing it into "LN arc 4 is garbage" without having read it themselves. Like a spreading rumor. Even with other LN anons saying if you ignore all the cut content it's still good..

oh fuck you

>magic plot rocks
>literally downgrading Emilia's development
>puck shoved into Ram's big moment
>magic rocks shoved into the fight against garf
>remove the foreshadowing to Subaru's invisible hand
>less witches
>less otto
>less gore

>t-the LN is just as good, don't listen to them!
Who could be behind this post?

It rhymes with blandness.

She probably has a good body under all those clothes

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She is a kid in a adult body, it would be wrong.

Based Tappei trimming the useless fat from his story.

There was a lot of pointless content in Arc 4, but Tappei shaved off mostly good narrative and story elements that made Arc 4 click.

>that nobody purple girl higher than Petra

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Of course is cute!

She is a princess

And then Tappei said
>Petra is not liked enough, now i must do 254357 extra content for her!!

It had alot of extra fluff but the LN did not just cut the extra fluff. It fundamentally changed the why and how the events happened. The events might be there in order but the meaning behind how he got there and why they happen are different.

Frederica just hands him a stone "you need this" and then it teleports him to the tomb. Fucking stupid bullshit.

Emilia was afraid and could not face her past. Nope, change it to Roswaal was sealing her memories. Emilia is the most heroic and magnificent character that Sanctuary has seen in 400 years except that last arc she sat around in the mansion and did not lift a finger in the defense of the village and even tried to run away.

Ram. Ram confronts Roswaal. Alone. With no chance of winning. Nope better change that to Puck who was supposed to be gone joins Ram in her fight against the big bad clown.

Fuck you

Don't forget the Ninja clown cannon that can dance in the air and can do spells from his dick.

>It's bad because it's not the same
autism

All the changes essentially point to it being Roswaal's fault, and then trying to redeem him in some form.

No fuck you and read
>if you ignore all the cut content it's still good..
>hurr but muh cut/changed content

The scenes in the LN have tremendously less impact then they do in the WN. My favorite line in the WN is this "—How long had it been since he had last heard that voice", to me, the reader it was a long fucking time. It was a very long time for the reader AND Subaru at that moment. I could really feel what Subaru was feeling at that moment because the 72 previous chapters were pretty fucking slow. That line had nowhere the same amount of impact that it did in the LN.

>if you ignore all the cut content it's still good..
No. Subaru instead of taking all the information he has learned over the failed loop and formulates a plan and positions characters as individual pieces in a larger strategy just lucks into his winning loop. We cannot ignore the cut content as WE KNOW WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN. I do know that the general consensus is that the LN version is "more exciting" to read, but do you know why? Because it cuts all the foreshadowing. In the WN you see things put down and built upon, in the LN some of the straight up become ass pulls. Like Subaru's invisible hand.

In your own fucking screen cap. "I thought Arc 4 was quite interesting."

I thought the same, I liked Arc 4. Infact it's my favorite Arc as we learn alot about Re:Zero's world and the backstory of the witches. The slowness didn't bother me as I skimmed through the parts that didn't interest me the first time. The slowness even added to the atmosphere and tone of the Arc. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times I've read it I have read it in it's entirety and those read throughs are why it's my favorite Arc.

It had a firm build up and when the load was blown it felt amazing.

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This is an accurate measure of how shit each one is.

oh man you must be so intelligent to not like the most popular character. burden of the high IQ right?

i want to impregnate felt

And what's wrong with vampires, exactly?

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Petra a cute peasant girl, can't blame him

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She’s got more personality than Emilia

Haha it sure would be embarrassing if Emilia still couldn't come close to Rem's popularity, despite the screentime she's getting in season 2. Oh boy we Emiliafags wouldn't live this down.

Look at the top grossing films of all time and tell me you still consider popularity a measure of quality.

>films
>anime
>same thing
Uh huh.

I want to creampie her.

No

Not fit to rule

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I think someone who didn’t know who the witch cult was is instantly unfit to rule

She did know but something something sealed memories.

It took me a second to realize that rem had over 4 times more votes than everyone else, holy shit.

vampires>>>onis

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I think that's one of the LN's few good changes. If she doesn't know about the witch cult, a significant chunk as to why demihuman discrimination occurs, she would be fucking stupid, not just naive.

Elsa is a canon vampire. In the tits scale, Elsa far surpasses both Rem and Ram combined multiplied by 5

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Innocent and loud

Reminder that Elsa feeds on her victims' intestines, which is why she always cuts their torsos open. Reminder that she is a literal shiteater.

She also likes em cause they're warm. You know, the event that turned Elsa into an assassin could have very well turned her a serial rapist/prostitute had events gone differently. She fell in love with intestines cause they kept her warm when she was about to die from freezing to death by the cold north of her home country. Had her rapist succeeded, she might have gotten an addiction to semen.

>Look at the top grossing films of all time and tell me you still consider popularity a measure of quality.
popularity = bad. obscure = good and the most intelligent choice

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That would make a good doujin

Any guess's when we'll get the scorpion boss fight?

In 5 bro.

So Al probably has Pride right? I can imagine a situation down the line where he kills Wrath and gets that too, can't handle it and Subaru is the only one who can take him down. Wrath+Pride vs Sloth+Greed+Gluttony could be very interesting. Can''t wait to see how Lust manifests for Subaru. I didn't mention Envy since I don't think he has it in him, Satella is just remotely effecting him since she's alive still.

Pride is probably what lets Subaru take on the others at a lower level than the actual authority

I dunno if I can trust this poll.

I mean, if the author of Runouni Kenshin voted 68 times what's stopping me from stuffing the ballots too?

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That's not a poll user. It's the amount of fanart they have on pixiv as of 3 years ago

I took this show out of the backlog because if Isekai Quarter

What was it like watching it as it was airing? How many people dropped it on episode 13 and picked it up again on episode 15?

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Not true I voted for Petra too, look at those slutty kneesocks

it's a count of pixiv fanart during the airing of the show

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now this is a real poll
yaraon-blog.com/archives/105296
1位　レム　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　21679票
2位　エミリア　　　　　　　　　　　　　 　　　4163票
3位　ペテルギウス・ロマネコンティ　　　 4072票
4位　ベアトリス　　　　　　　　　　　　 　　　2853票
5位　エキドナ　　　　　　　　　　　　　 　　　2190票
6位　ラム　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　 　　 　1706票
7位　ナツキ・スバル　　　　　　　　　　 　 1254票
8位　レグルス・コルニアス　　　　　　　 　 1097票
9位　ラインハルト・ヴァン・アストレア　　　 813票
10位　クルシュ・カルステン　　　　　　　 　 736票

Everyone who misrepresents everything in the series (to the point it makes you wonder if they even watched it) and the characters to shit on it dropped it at episode 13. To the point it even impairs their memory of arc 2.

This. Only Remfags are salty about the cut scenes since the Rem bullshit scenew were taken off.

where was Rem's scenes mentioned this thread.

>muh remfags
I think anyone should be mad that essential scenes of characterization were removed. But I guess emilia fans aren't used to having any

first soft and then you know the rest

Emilia >>>>>>>>> rem kek

Latest official poll taken during a Re:zero signing event with the author

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Pride will unlock his spoon powers.

I still can’t believe the anime cut that scene. What were they thinking

>fucking Puck is higher than Ram

You have to be shitting me

The LN pretty much cut every scene where Puck was an asshole. He’s just the mascot now basically

Why are Subaru and Otto seething?

Another user here. I don't know much about the wn. Which scenes were cut that have shown that Puck's an asshole?

It was so easy to put Subaru sperging with a spoon
But i guess Emilia pretty dresses were more important.

One of them is the part where Subaru finds Rem comatose. Puck just insults her in front of Subaru.

Rem and Subaru don't like that Emilia is between them. Otto is jealous of how much hot sweaty handholding Subaru and Beako get up to. Beako is even taunting him with it right there

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Puck dindu nuffin!
He is just a cute and noble spirit!!

Interesting. Do you remember what he said?

That it was unnecessary. The author loves the anime and only wishes they could have had 26 episodes so they could have added the mayonnaise chapter(Which would include more Rem/Subaru bonding from the LN and the Subaru monologue about how Rem is glued to his side after the events of arc 2)

Well, to be fair Puck is really cute, you know

I think he's referring to this.
pastebin.com/FNmp9vud
This is after the anime ending btw.

hey faggot

>Puck: “I see. So you must've worked hard to save Lia. And this girl was a sacrifice for saving Lia. Well then, I'll have to thank her—”
That instant, Subaru's thoughts ignore everything and divert entirely into slamming out a fist. With not a shred of hesitation, he drives the fist at Puck with all the force he can muster. But Puck easily avoids Subaru's strike, looking surprised.
>Puck: “That was pretty shocking all of a sudden, what happened?”
>Subaru: “Never touch Rem again. Not your hands, or mouth.”
Subaru's voice is so quiet that it surprises himself. His emotions are overboiled. He might even be acting insane. Puck stares at Subaru, eyes wide.
Shame we'll never see this Subaru in the S2.

>it doesn't end in a cliffhanger
It absolutely does. Nothing is resolved at the end. Subaru's transportation is unresolved, the election is unresolved, the blank letter is unresolved,

That's not what a cliffhanger is. The main problem of arc 3 is solved, the villain is beaten, and the heroine is saved.

>The main problem of arc 3 is solved,
So the election is a secondary problem? It's built up to be some big deal.

It's a future plot point and it's still ongoing retard. Still not a cliffhanger. A cliffhanger would be if they ended it with Emilia saying "who is Rem?"

>It's a future plot point and it's still ongoing retard. Still not a cliffhanger. A cliffhanger would be if they ended it with Emilia saying "who is Rem?"
see " the blank letter is unresolved,"

Kayanon > both of them

As far as Subaru and the viewer is concerned it was a mistake. I hope you're just pretending to be retarded because otherwise EVERYTHING would be a cliffhanger in your eyes.

I want to creampie her.

What's hot is that she literally wouldn't understand what is going on as it's happening.

Well now we might still see it

No we won't.

wheres the trap?

Let me have hope man

you get this instead

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It’s hilarious that they actually did that. Such a troll

Based Tappei not letting Subaru suffer alone.

>hmmm Subaru doesn't rely on Emilia, in the WN he actually refuses to, quick shove her into this scene

What's funny is that the Emilia-wank still present.
I believe it went like "Emilia is so kind for being there in his darkest moment". Whats funny is how this very wank replaced a powerful paragraph of resolve by Subaru, utter fucking horseshit.

Stay mad.
Polygamy shit removed. Subaru acts less like a retard whenever near Rem. Remfags were fuming like crazy.

Can't wait to see this animated in S2.

>I believe it went like "Emilia is so kind for being there in his darkest moment". Whats funny is how this very wank replaced a powerful paragraph of resolve by Subaru, utter fucking horseshit.
just torrented vol 9

skipped to that scene, it's really fucking bad. That user years ago was right. This is very reminiscent of an earlier conversation between Subaru and Rem

“…You really are something, Emilia-tan.”
“Really? I feel like you’re reeeally amazing, too, Subaru.”

Vol 5
“Rem… You’re really something else.”
“I am. But Sister is even more incredible.”

Also WN Arc 4 Chapter 73
Subaru: “God you're amazing, Rem...”
Rem: “I appreciate that very much. You're incredible too, Subaru-kun.”

WN

>Different from with the White Whale's FOG, Rem's body is right there, but nobody remembers her. And there is Subaru, at her side, dumbstruck and unable to do anything.
>This pathetic, hopeless hour ends here. He will end it here. Subaru takes Rem's hand, resolving himself. This time, definitely, he resolves himself.
>
>—I, no matter what, am going to,
>Subaru: “—Bring you back, Rem. No matter what, I'll bring you back.”
>
>Subaru had told her. That he'd show her, show her the man she loved, become the ultimate hero.
>So, would he not still be midway through his course?
>
>Subaru: “I'm, no matter what... Your hero will, no matter what, come to get you. —Be waiting for me.”
>
>He raises his head. Bares his teeth. Pronounces war on the enemy. He will make them regret touching what shouldn't be touched, encroaching on what shouldn't be encroached.
>And it'd be no man other than Natsuki Subaru.
>
>Subaru: “No matter what. —No matter what!!”
>
>He couldn't bear his memories of his days starting from zero being ones without her.
>No matter what, bring it back.
>Bring back the days he lost, the hours they lived together, the hours they would live together.
>Once again, his hands would reel everything back in, unfailingly.

LN

>As Rem continued to sleep before him, he’d wasted time, beating himself up over his own powerlessness. Emilia, too, was concerned for Rem, yet he’d never even noticed.
>Because he was the only one who remembered Rem, he’d convinced himself that he was the only person concerned about her, and that only he could save her.
>Subaru continued sniffling at his own stupidity.
>And then…
>“”
>In that quiet room, filled only with the sound of his own sobbing, Subaru’s throat caught from the abrupt sensation of warmth.
>From behind, over the back of the chair, Emilia embraced Subaru, gently stroking his head.
>“”
>She said nothing. She didn’t have to.
>Saved by her simple act of kindness, Subaru stanched the flow of both his tears and his whining.
>And then, in that moment, he made an oath.
>“I’ll bring you back. Count on it, Rem.”
>He had told her before.
>He, the man she’d fallen in love with, would stand before her as the greatest hero of all.
>Wasn’t he still only partway down that road?
>“I’ll definitely… Your hero is definitely coming for you—just you wait.”
>This was both a promise to himself, and his declaration of war against the enemy called fate.
>Any who stood before Subaru Natsuki while doing evil, encroaching upon that which was not theirs to sully, would be pounded flat.
>And it would be Subaru Natsuki who would do it.
>“There’s no doubt—no doubt!!”
>In the time starting from zero, losing someone precious like you…is unthinkable.
>That’s why I’ll get them back.
>The days lost. The time I spent walking with you. The time I wanted to spend walking with you.
>I’ll bring them back again with my own two hands, so just wait, Rem…

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Don’t you know user? Emilia is the most HEROIC and NOBLE girl in 400 years!

THIS is the fucking change that made Remfags so butthurt?

This is a fucking travesty. Emilia was added for the fucking hell of it, her inclusion is so fucking pointless and makes Subaru an even weaker willed pussy then he already was back in arc 3. Just reading the WN version allows you to feel a raw sense of pain, wrath and resolve. The LN version just lacks passion and raw emotion. Whats worse was that he needed Emilia's hug to feel that resolve, and felt the need to insert Emilia wank at the end. It's regressive of what Arc 3 was meant to create, a capable and willful Subaru.

Emilia really doesn't belong there.

The Subaru who so desperately tries to hide his weakness so he can be strong openly shows Emilia his weakness.
>“Emilia, there’s something I’d like to ask of you…”
>“What is it?”
>“Can you turn around? I’m gonna cry a bit.”
>“Mm-hmm, got it.”
>Emilia asked nothing more, turning her back to Subaru as he had asked.
>Her consideration was a relief to Subaru as his gaze fell to his own knees. He gave in to the emotions surging inside him; he sniffled, and tears fell.
They just took his character and resolve and pissed on it.

>—That in this world, this universe, the only time he could show his weakness, was when with Rem.
>When with the Rem who knew Subaru was weak, but even so believed in his efforts to act with strength, was the only time Subaru could go without hiding the fact he was weak.
>Not to Emilia, not to Beatrice, not to anyone else could he show it.
>The only person could a Subaru who needed to be strong show his weakness to was Rem.
>Subaru: “My weakness belongs to Rem. She hides all of my weakness, and in exchange even if I have to grapple it in tight, I'm not letting my surrender happen.”

I knew about this for years but it really should have made me this angry.
LN
>“Nah, no way— I’m glad you’re here, Emilia.”
WN
>Subaru is not brave or spirited enough to face Emilia in his current mood. And Emilia must understand that Subaru feels hopeless. She knows that being with him would only hurt him, and is giving him his time alone unless he requests otherwise. Even though she must be jittery too.

WN or LN?

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Top is the LN scene, bottom is from WN Arc 4 Chapter 73

Who's Rem?

the name sake of the series

WN
>If he was going to lose Rem, if he was heading toward a future without her, then he'd undergo the suffering no matter how many times it'd take—that much, he did remember.
>Stabbed his throat, and with the blood and the pain and the heat and loss, he felt the sensation of himself departing. When it cleared, what Subaru saw before him was a bed where Rem lay.
>The respawn point had updated. The point to redo had changed. Subaru had been thrust into hell. Thinking that something must be wrong, Subaru went to commit suicide once more, but hesitated. It wasn't that he was afraid of pain or death. It was simply that he had realized it.
LN
>If it meant losing Rem, if it meant advancing into a future without her, he didn’t care how many times he had to fight Sloth, how many hells he had to go through…or so he had thought.
>After the dagger punched through his throat, he felt himself fading in the face of blood, pain, passion, and loss— Then, when Subaru came to after Returning by Death, the sight of Rem sleeping in bed lay before him.
>“…Shit. I never thought there’d be an auto-save just before committing suicide. That’s really messed up.”
>Subaru, thinking that the change in restart points must have been some kind of mistake, tried to take his own life again. But when the paradox sank in that, even if he Returned by Death, he could not save Rem, he stopped his impulsive behavior; the dagger fell from Subaru’s hand as he crumpled to the floor.
even a minor change like this one irritates me to no end

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Hey, screencap this post. In the LN Arc 6 Emilia shows up instead of Rem.

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These extra additions just confirm that the LN is being rewritten for an anime adaptation

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Emilia isn’t capable of giving a speech like that. That’s why she didn’t give the From zero speech either

We've said many things about the LN but its indefensible at this point.

fuck I now see it

the anime destroyed Re:Zero

>Emilia isn’t capable of giving a speech like that. That’s why she didn’t give the From zero speech either
I'm at the point where I believe the person who said that isn't the same person who wrote Emilia to be the most heroic and magnificent person Sanctuary has seen in 400 years.

If they are the same person then he's contradicting himself and his own story.

Try to explain what purpose Emilia has there. She doesn't know who the fuck is there and everything she had done up to this point was being too dumb to do anything. She shouldn't even be able to lend emotional support because she is mentally 7 yo

Even a 7 year old can hug someone who is crying their eyes out. It's just not that big a deal. The scene plays out the same way with him making the promise to bring Rem back. It's a fucking nothing change.

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I don't know about you but some people actually read this thing

Cool, and the WN version still exists as far as I know. The endless Remfag butthurt over MUH LN in every Re Zero thread gets old very quickly though.

>votes

>thinking just Remfags are butthurt about these changes

why is she named rem?
her sister is ram so she should be named rom.

>that change
What the fuck was he thinking?

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>The scene plays out the same way with him making the promise to bring Rem back. It's a fucking nothing change.

I started reading the LN and it's already better than the show. Especially how Subaru actually thought of completely ignoring Emilia's predicament and living his own life as a reasonable option.

keep reading friend

she's not

I'm not seeing the difference other than an added line

I said it was a minor change.
>>“…Shit. I never thought there’d be an auto-save just before committing suicide. That’s really messed up.”
Sounds like some stupid fuck sitting there playing a game instead of someone who just attempted suicide to save a loved one.

I will. It'll be a long while until I catch up with the show because I'm deciphering the moon runes but I look forward to seeing all the details that were cut.

huh? why not just read the translated LNs or are you reading the WN?

>abloobloo his character is not exactly the same as the WN version

Stupid thing to complain about. I've never seen WNfags as autistic as this. Not in Overlord, Shield Hero, or even SAO. There will be changes, the WN is something he writes like a rough draft and he clearly decided he was wanking Rem x Subaru too much with that so he cut it from the characterization.

>Especially how Subaru actually thought of completely ignoring Emilia's predicament and living his own life as a reasonable option.
He did that in the anime too. 3 times

Is the webnovel good at least? I liked the anime but it raises far too many questions and by the looks of it it's just a fraction of what has happened in the webnovel.

LN. Why would I ever read a translated work when I could experience it in it's native, unsoiled, intended language? I can only imagine how much of it is lost in translation.

It fits with his character. He was trying to bullshit confidence by talking it down, like he does in various life or death situations, for a second go.

I don’t think he’d be able to think clearly given that he just lost Rem. The WN version is far more accurate to his character

>The WN version is far more accurate to his character
I disagree. It was perfectly in line with his behavior to try to downplay it off before giving in completely to despair.

But you clearly have some odd ideas about his character. He has shown Emilia his weak side before, it doesn't destroy any of his resolve or character
You're only complaining that it does because you're taking the WN version as the canon when it's not canon to the LN

If you're reading the LN why not read the WN instead and read the native, unsoiled, intended story? You can only imagine how much of it is lost in adaption.

I'm kidding, LN Vol 1-7 are fine because they follow the WN pretty closely but after that it gets a bit muddy since the anime production started to influence the LN and at 9 starts taking major deviations in events. On 2ch/5ch they started to treat the WN and LN as two separate stories now since the deviations are so large so then you should pick either to stick with the LN or go to the WN. I prefer the WN since the characters alot more fun.

>read the native, unsoiled, intended story
Delusional WN autist
Tappei is working on it secondary to the point he forgets stuff he wrote on the WN

>It was perfectly in line with his behavior to try to downplay it
When has he ever been able to downplay Rem or Emilia’s death? He fucking loses it when something happens to them. I don’t think he’d be able to downplay it and say “lol this is like a game autosave” after permanently losing one of the most important people in his life.

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>He was trying to bullshit confidence by talking it down, like he does in various life or death situations, for a second go.
You read it wrong. He was not readying for a second go. He already tried a second time.

>“…Shit. I never thought there’d be an auto-save just before committing suicide. That’s really messed up.”
happens after
>Subaru, thinking that the change in restart points must have been some kind of mistake, tried to take his own life again. But when the paradox sank in that, even if he Returned by Death, he could not save Rem, he stopped his impulsive behavior; the dagger fell from Subaru’s hand as he crumpled to the floor.

Putting it that way using my own logic I don't really have an excuse for reading the LN.
So would I be able to jump right into the WN after finishing volume 7 of the LN? I was told in a different thread that I should start with the light novels, but I honestly don't know what to do. It feels like no matter what I choose I'm going to be missing a lot.

He's trying to downplay it because he doesn't want to believe it's true in his state of shock.

And anons have the nerve to complain about authors holding their hands with long explanations of every action and thought.

No you read it wrong

>If it meant losing Rem, if it meant advancing into a future without her, he didn’t care how many times he had to fight Sloth, how many hells he had to go through…or so he had thought.
>After the dagger punched through his throat, he felt himself fading in the face of blood, pain, passion, and loss— Then, when Subaru came to after Returning by Death, the sight of Rem sleeping in bed lay before him.
>“…Shit. I never thought there’d be an auto-save just before committing suicide. That’s really messed up.”
Happens after the first death.
>Subaru, thinking that the change in restart points must have been some kind of mistake, tried to take his own life again. But when the paradox sank in that, even if he Returned by Death, he could not save Rem, he stopped his impulsive behavior; the dagger fell from Subaru’s hand as he crumpled to the floor.

What Vol are you on? The characters are a little bit different between the LN and WN, with the LN versions being "watered down". Subaru was especially watered down. If you wait too long to switch between LN and WN it becomes a big jump between the Subarus. The LNs 1-7 cut down on some unneeded fat and tone Subaru's autism down to reach a bigger audience. Switching at 7 is doable but switching at 9 or 10 is a big hurtle.

I just started reading volume 1 today. That's great to know, I'll switch over once I finish volume 7 then, thanks for the information. Never knew there was such a ridiculous change between the Re:Zero novels. The anime has an excuse for being so radically different from the source material because it's an adaptation but between two written stories there's no reason for the glaring incongruity. I really hate that about the world of Japanese LNs. Not the first series to pull this sort of bullshit.

No. With how the translated LN flows and the writing style
>“…Shit. I never thought there’d be an auto-save just before committing suicide. That’s really messed up.”
>Subaru, thinking that the change in restart points must have been some kind of mistake, tried to take his own life again. But when the paradox sank in that, even if he Returned by Death, he could not save Rem, he stopped his impulsive behavior; the dagger fell from Subaru’s hand as he crumpled to the floor.
"... Shit." actually happens after the narration. Really they are supposed to be at the same time you can't do that in this medium or really any medium.

It doesn't make any fucking sense for him to say “…Shit. I never thought there’d be an auto-save just before committing suicide. That’s really messed up.” before readying for a second neck slice in your layout of events.

I remember someone once put it as the they replaced the LN Subaru with the Anime Subaru because of all the new readers jumping on because of the anime.

>It doesn't make any fucking sense for him to say “…Shit. I never thought there’d be an auto-save just before committing suicide. That’s really messed up.” before readying for a second neck slice in your layout of events.
He's in shock, tries to downplay it, and thinks it's a mistake.
>Subaru, thinking that the change in restart points must have been some kind of mistake
and then it sinks in.

oh I forgot, once you finish vol 7 tell me whether or not you have become a Remfag.

LN is the main canon
WN is a rough draft
Every time.

They are never the same. And LN isn't an adaptation of the WN, it's a polished version of what the author wants from the story.

>they replaced the LN Subaru with the Anime Subaru
Never heard that one before. LN Subaru was already different from WN Subaru

I'm reading a lot of mixed opinions in this very thread regarding which is the intended one. There are many series where the differences between the draft and supposed polished version are negligible but in Re:Zero's case it's enough to spark a war between which one is superior.
I also didn't say the LN is an adaptation, I said the anime is an adaptation.

>And LN isn't an adaptation of the WN, it's a polished version of what the author wants from the story.
Again. Everytime. The WN was written way before the LN was even a fucking idea. It's a adapting it to a bigger audience to sell, not a polished version of "what he wants from the story".

Yeah that's obvious, I and that user are talking about the change in Subaru in between LN vols 7 and 8/9. Through 1 and 7 WN and LN Subaru's had their differences but followed the same track. At 8/9 LN Subaru seems to leave the track he was on and starts following the track that Anime Subaru is on.

WNfags even admit the WN arc 4 was boring. They're just mad because the LN cut or changed the content they liked from the WN

> I could really feel what Subaru was feeling at that moment because the 72 previous chapters were pretty fucking slow.
>I do know that the general consensus is that the LN version is "more exciting" to read
>The slowness didn't bother me as I skimmed through the parts that didn't interest me the first time.

It being boring at times didn't stop it as whole being a enjoyable experience. Once I read "—How long had it been since he had last heard that voice" I had decided to stick with Re:Zero until the very end no matter what happens.

>The WN was written way before the LN was even a fucking idea
That's how it ALWAYS goes. For just about every author who starts on a WN before a publisher likes it and picks them up. Tappei's interview makes it clear which version he's invested in.

No, it's quite noticeable when the WN is clearly a generic LN bait "publish me publish me"

Now you're just reaching for excuses. We have the author's own words on this

Read this after volume 5. amazon.com/Re-Starting-Another-World-light/dp/0316412902/

The differences between the Shield Hero WN and LN are huge too. The fanbase isn't autistic though and knows the LN is the main canon.

Same with Overlord. Everyone accepts Arche is dead in the LN

Mainly because the shield hero WN had a shitty ending and are thus pining their hopes on the LN?

i stayayayayay alive

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my wife, elza will be ahead one day

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I keep trying to understand what Emilia is seeing from her perspective, and wondering why she hasn't shot an ice bullet through Subaru's brain yet.
>oh great, this guy again
>yep, he hurt himself again due to his own stupidity
>why doesn't he listen to a word I say
>now he's yelling and screaming nonsense at me
>oh boy another mental breakdown
>stop saying you love me you fucking freak I hardly know you
>do I really have to keep being polite

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What is that even supposed to mean? What foul manner are you trying to twist his words? Yes. At times things were slow and bit of a slog, most of that in the first half because of the mentioned him just writing whatever the fuck he wants because he doesn't have a set outline. But it fits the atmosphere and tone of the arc.

Why am I even arguing with you? You haven't read the WN version of Arc 4. You haven't read the LN version of Arc 4. You've read neither.

The LN Arc 4 was a fundamental change to the tone and atmosphere of the WN. What we get instead is some generic action shouen garbage with teleporting magic crystals that teleport Subaru to the next plot event, Subaru instead of taking it slow and formulating a strategy to solve the loop sort of just lucks out, his long awaited foreshadowed awakening of his power is replaced with it just being an asspull of him slapping the big tiger with it. Ram's big moment was replaced with a big grand battle instead of the humble confrontation.

That's because the LN actually improves the story. I've read both and believe that the LN of Shield Hero is much superior to the WN because of those drastic changes. Don't compare Shield Hero and Re:Zero.

Would waifu Puck

She's mentally 13 and doesn't understand what's happening since Puck has kept her super sheltered.

No. Finally found the words I was looking for.
>“…Shit. I never thought there’d be an auto-save just before committing suicide. That’s really messed up.”
Is the vocalization of
>Subaru, thinking that the change in restart points must have been some kind of mistake, tried to take his own life again. But when the paradox sank in that, even if he Returned by Death, he could not save Rem, he stopped his impulsive behavior; the dagger fell from Subaru’s hand as he crumpled to the floor.

>What is that even supposed to mean? What foul manner are you trying to twist his words?
Are you stupid.
>it's a polished version of what the author wants from the story.
Is what we were discussing. And his statements corroborate it.

>Why am I even arguing with you? You haven't read the WN version of Arc 4. You haven't read the LN version of Arc 4. You've read neither.
I see discussing with you is pointless as now you're just going into denial and making hilarious accusations to keep from facing reality.

We'll see who is right in S2. INB4 t-the anime just changed it when it happens

>>it's a polished version of what the author wants from the story.
>Is what we were discussing. And his statements corroborate it.
But the LN of Arc 4 is not a polished version of the WN version of Arc 4. That's what I'm trying to get across through your thick skull mister read neither.

I love Subaru as a mc, but why doesn't he try to understand her?
Feels like all he is thinking about is himself.

There's this line in the LN that should clear things up.
Emilia: “The me inside your head is really something, isn’t she?”
Subaru wasn't looking at Emilia, he was looking at his own idealized version of Emilia. Really the Emilia he's in love with doesn't really exist as Puck was the one who got her to give him a lap pillow. The LN later changes that so Emilia is the type of person to give him a lap pillow so just ignore that.

>But the LN of Arc 4 is not a polished version of the WN version of Arc 4
It is. All the pointless content(In the author's own view) was cut and the author made changes to fit with his vision of the story. If you're just going to be repeating your absolute denial of the author's own words then this conversation is at a dead end as we're just repeating ourselves now.

The anime is whatever they interpreted to have happened if they even care what the source material did. It will be interesting what they do with that scene as Subaru never confesses to Rem or admits his love for her in any way in the anime.

Already setting up your excuses for when your own incorrect interpretation is shown to be wrong I see.

>author
You mean the Kadokawa editorial staff.

Your tiny quote says nothing about the actual creation of what we call LN Arc 4

Got to play the long game you know?

die

>I-It was his editor
Alright I'm done for tonight enjoy deluding yourself with various excuses. Denial is a funny thing

Why would Tappei walk back on Emilia's development? The LN is a downgrade in every way. Instead of her childishly being unable to face her past it was Roswaal who sealed her memories.

no

f**k you

Беако

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Рем

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i am literally felt

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I don't get Subaru's obsession with Emilia. She's not even a 10/10, given that there are better looking girls he has encountered.

The biggest turn off is that he saved her and she was like "oh yea okay, thanks". Even the whole reward thing was the clown's idea, not Emilia's.

She is either super dense or opportunistic to accept that Subaru only wants a lap pillow/to work as a servant as a reward for saving the life of a fucking princess candidate.

Rem is practically throwing herself at him and he shows no romantic interest in her at all while Emilia is sidelining Subaru because she thinks he's embarrassing (like with the candidate announcement thing).

Would make more sense if Emilia was Satella's host and the whole obsession thing was planted in Subaru to make him protect her host, and it's not his real feelings at all.

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animeonly here
does she show up again?

Фельт

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>[Rem: Say “I love you”…]
>Rem spilled these words out with a faint, frail voice while looking up at Subaru.
>In her vision which had become blurred by the swell of tears that gushed up, she saw Subaru shake his head. After that, Subaru brought his face close to her and said,
>[Subaru: I love you(suki da)]
>[———–]
>[Subaru: I love you(daisuki da). Isn’t that obvious…If you aren’t with me, I can’t live on…]
>It was his true feelings. If you were to say that this was when he spilled everything out, that wouldn’t be an exaggeration and would be an accurate statement. If it wasn’t for her, he wouldn’t come this far. >If she were to disappear, he would not be able to live on.
>[Rem: Ahhh…I’m happy…]
>Accepting Subaru’s confession, Rem felt a tear alongside her closed eyes. Taking in Subaru’s words happily, her face quickly blushed. Soon after, it now really did seem that all power within her body had departed.
>[Subaru: Wait…]
>[Rem: I love you(aishiteimasu), Subaru-kun]
>[Subaru:Don’t fuck with me, stay by my side. You’re going to leave me with regrets again!?]
>Subaru could not bear to live in a near future where Rem would cease to exist. Along with knowing this fact since long ago, her existence still has become sooo much more important to him, compared to long ago. So,
>[Subaru: In the future where I talk while smiling, I need you…I don’t want this]
>[Rem: In that future, is it okay if I stay by your side?]
>[Subaru: ….Isn’t the answer obvious? I won’t let you go to anyone else’s side.]
>Wiping off her tears that were suspended on her eyelids, Subaru looked straight at Rem and said:
>[Subaru: You are mine. I won’t let anyone have you.]
>[Rem: Proposal accepted!]
>[Subaru: Heh?]
Raw Version ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/138/
WN Eng Version remonwater.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/rezero-web-novel-translated-scene-of-rem-feigning-her-death/
LN Yen Press Version pastebin.com/XPWB6xPr

yes

Yeah. However, she dies by burning to death
I know, its a fucking waste. She seems to be a vampire so there is a small chance the author is baiting

Is that the new game? Do we get more Elsa things like this?

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no its toram online and its just an ongoing colaboration costume. i dont know if elza costume will appear.

Absolutely terrible. I like Emi too, but this feels wrong. I'm sad it had to be this way, the anime just fucked shit up.

So, will the next IF story be Envy, an alternate IF for one of the other 6 sins, a continuation of an IF or an IF of those other 2 sins pandora and the warlock guy, forget the sin names.

Envy is most likely the main story.
Lets see what we already have
Pride: Ayamatsu
Greed: Kasaneru
Sloth: Rem IF (This could change though, but I doubt it)
Wrath: Oboreru
Gluttony: Tsugihagu
Lust: Most likely, if the Harem IF isn't republished we'll be getting a Lust IF next.
You do make an interesting point about Vainglory and Melancholy. These might be the last two IF's to be done.

Yeah, I figure Envy is main. What's the deal with the Lust one, is there more to it that just isn't TLed yet? Or just that Rem bit.

Lust IF had him do romantic stuff with all the candidates. The only one I know about is Priscilla since the lewdness of her part stuck with me more than the others save for Rem's one which was incredibly heartwarming.

At this point I don't really care about Emilia or Rem, I just want to know how it ends.

We are 10 literal years away from that.

I'm a Berserk fag, user. I can wait that long.

>i didnt learn that thing i just learned now im a seething NICE guy
>wow im the crazy bad guy be very afraid! kekeke
>strong familiar is actually strong enough to kill everything but cant kill any bad guy because reasons
>we need to kill the big white whale look at this old man cringe walk upside down and attack this thing incrediblke
>wow youre actually so nice can I fuck you right here? totally not a desperate loser
>yes i have blue hair and he cute he aight beta boy
big stinky shit series

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but he still loves Emilia right

yeah he keeps lying to her

ye

Seems like you're the one seething, shobon cat.