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>reminder that every official statement that proves me wrong doesn't count
ENTER CUTEHAN
examples?
>official statement
Literally none. All spammed untill today is propaganda
y-y-ou mad toeilard?
>english
so what is actually canon?
Toyopacobros...
The anime is the closest thing we have to a canon right now. Toyopaco is a hack who can't draw fights or explain what the fuck is going on
Chadnime
>Toyopaco is a hack who can't draw fights
can agree with that one
>or explain what the fuck is going on
not this one though
>t-they are talking about the anime
>"published in the V-Jump"
Stop baiting, juan
Not to mention he forgets Gohan exists
>>t-they are talking about the anime
You are not gonna strawman your way outta this one, paquito
>pic related
>the last movie credits the manga and only the manga
>the anime literally can't be canon since it's based on DBZ and DB Kai, non canon animes
>manga nowhere to be mentioned
Toyopacobros how do we stop losing...
Are you ready for the announcement of the new SDBH anime, user?
So we all admit that one version or the other is canon. Then what happens?
OH NO NO NO NO NO
>B-but they are using Shintani designs! That means 2uper is going to be announce!
Goku day can't come soon enough.
>Dead show
>Dead thread
happens
Toyopacobros....
cringe
@187835832
You aren't even trying
he tried alright, at least acknowledge his feeble being
>literally posts the pic that was proven wrong minutes before
Also cardposting
Not sure if just bold or completely retarded. I am sure actually, its the latter
Soon.
Keep seething, retard. In a matter of days nobody is going to give two fucks about DBS or that shitty manga. SDBH is the future of this series. Even if you don't like it.
Reminder that toyotacos unironically used these 2 characters to say the manga is canon. Not even kidding
SDBH might be cringe but i want this
Enter CHADren.
But the first one appeared in the manga, and the second one was designed by Toriyama himself.
>designed by Toriyama
but Moro is also designed by Toriyama and he's a non-canon filler
>Chadnime
Anime for babies=Chadnime?
>Anime for babies
he didn't talk about Hunter X Hunter
How in the fuck are people okay with the new manga? It looks like some malaysian knockoff.
>Thinking that everything after Z era is canon
He should had won!
>OGbabbies and Zweaklings are still trying
here's your (You) now fuck off
This. Toriyama involvement doesn't mean it belongs to the canon timeline. I don't know why people correlate that.
Ironically, toyopacos believe the opposite, that those characters are anime exclusive
>▶
DB threads are honestly some of the worst fucking threads on Yea Forums these days, they utterly emptilize the retards baiting retards baiting retards baiting other retards in an endless circljerk of multi-layered shitposting.
Niether the anime or manga are canon, both are different interperations of toriyama's skeleton script and his ideas. Super is "canon", but none of the actual DB super products we have, aside from MAYBE the movies, are canon themselves, assuming by "canon" you mean toriyama';s vision for/of the series.
It can be assumed that elements that both the anime and manga for super share is canonical, but any difference in how they are executed or material exclusive to one or the other is not.
t. falseflagging Toeipedro pedospic desperate for his TV sketch to be taken seriously
>there are no canon versions
That would mean DB doesn't exist you fucking retard
t. tico taco pedro juan vega de la cruz muchacho es spic spic spic
>2 (You)s
oh well
MASSIVE COPE
You mean the pic that specifically mentions the manga and never the anime, Juan?
Puny zoomer got triggered easy. So typical.
>Z-ZOOMER
Read the thread title you illiterate
>reminder that toyochads know the sequel of a non-canon anime is non-canon too
We know user. Even Toei animation recognized the DBS anime is in the same bag as the other non-canon animes
This is the ultimate proof that the anime isn't canon, since Gohan is Yamcha's kid.
Indeed he has to be
>GT and Super
>not canon
it's like saying EoZ isn't canon
Concession accepted. Have a nice fortnite day. *sip*
>concession
i win again! how could this be?
How dare him to say that Pan isn't canon, panbros?
*sip* Are ya winning, son?
yup, keep posting doggo, Superchad said so
Fuck I miss Dragon Ball.
I haven't watched it since I was a kid.
Lol pleb, I got 4
Ditto. Keep biting my baits.
>Shueisha
>shilling the anime
Are you completely retarded?
it's not bait if you keep winning, it also help us prove our point that Super is popular by bumping our thread
our hero
>Moro is also designed by Toriyama
Source: my ass
Boring, stop baiting and actually bring an argument
based Toeijuan
Never said it isn't. Wow. You're indeed desperate for some imaginary concepts of victory. How cute!
it's not imaginary if us Superchads made the rule on DBS thread
Hahaha look at his imagination! How can someone take Super or these threads so serious? You need to get out more.
I like Jiren
>How can someone take Super or these threads so serious?
we are called Chads for a reason user
Jiren is canon and the anime is stronger
>CHADly gets more orders than Goku and Gogeta combined
Irrelevantbros...
N-nongokugogetabrolybros....
>It's currently serialized in V Jump
>Pic of Toyotaro on the right
Yeah, they're clearly talking about Super as a whole.........
NOOOOOO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING VEGETABROS
>Yeah, they're clearly talking about Super as a whole.........
Unironically this
Kek. That's pretty cringe, dude. Sorry but I will stop playing with you now. I have a weekend to enjoy so I'm heading out. See you later, doggie. I am sure you will be there wating for me when I return.
...
>wagecuck
C-COPE...AHAHA..AHHAAAA....
What about m-my figures!??
Yep,keep contributing son, for DBS
>oh no mr beerus sama I'm very sorry about what I said, I beg you, don't kill me
vegeta is fucking pathetic in dbs, people only like him because tardku and cuckhan reached lows previously thought impossible
Chad even in plastic
Only movie figures here.
Where is the super announcment reekdombros...
Goku is still great though
>t-they didn't mention it because it's an anime!
So why did they mention canonicity, Juan? If the anime was canon they could either mention the anime and say it's canon or just mention the manga and say nothing about canonicity, but not mention the manga and say it's canon.
Why are you so pathetically obsessed with fighting battles you can't win? The manga is canon, deal with it, your opinion will never change this fact.
OH NO NO NO NO REEKDOMBROS....
>>t-they didn't mention it because it's an anime!
You don't even know what Shueisha is, right you complete retard? Go do your homework, newfag. Don't waste my time
>reekdombros
Who?
Dragon Ball Thread.
Home.
Still can't believe this fag actually browsed here for a while lol
Did Geekdom really say that? I don't follow the neckbeard.
I think he was actually here at one point and threw a tantrum because people were shitting on him. Here he can't block or delete posts and don't have protection from mods and a bunch of circlejerking fanboys defending him like he does over at that one DB site. His fragile ego broke and he sperged out.
They still do
The fact that they literally say to go on the HEROES website to see what it is on Goku day should be incredibly obvious that it isn't a new main anime
Was there any significant deterioration on that thing after it posted that?
Can't tell Ajay, Geekdom, Terez, and literally anyone else attempting to save face that.
>literally unable to refute the point that completely destroys his argument
Jesus christ
reekdombros...
Me in the back right.
Yeah, I'm surprised how many people think that they're really going to announce 2uper that way. It will probably be something related to the SDBH Ultimate Tour, some event related to Goku Day for the arcade, or a special card. At best they're going to announce an SDBH anime, but not 2uper. 2uper is not going to return this year. It doesn't matter what those twitterfags says.
>2uper
This sounds fucking stupid.
Actually Terez is on her right mind and thinks the new anime is probably SDBH
So it's just Cuckdom then because I haven't seen Ajay really make a big deal about it
You are a cute grill?
who is terez?
Some self entitled whale in her forties (not kidding) who mods the dbz subreddit.
Ajay probably gave up already, only Cuckdom is retarded enough to keep pushing le 2uper meme every two months after be btfo every single time
I cringe everytime he is on the screen
Why do spics hate Krillin so much? I also notice that he seems to be the main target for their NTR fantasies. Are they that butthurt that he ended up with 18?
I can't wait for Yonkou to appear to say that he know about it all along, like he usually do. That dude is the worst of them all. At least Ajay knows about animation, and Cuckdom101 knows about the franchise, Yonkou is literally that dude who posted illegal shit on his Twitter.
>The Super anime is a sequel to the Z anime (which is obvious since the Super anime often references Z filler and often contradicts the original manga)
>The Super manga is a sequel to the DB manga (as stated by Shueisha)
>The original manga is canon, thus the Super manga is canon
>the original anime is not canon, thus the Super anime is not canon
There, it's that simple
spics hate any weak character
they hate bulma, satan, roshi, etc. and wish they were replaced with someone like broly because he's stronger
>Cuckdom101 knows about the franchise
Barely. Underneath his connections and status he's no different than other cancerous dragon ball youtuber.
>he seems to be the main target for their NTR fantasies
Because everyone wants to fuck 18 but nobody wants to self-insert as a midget.
no, it just means that none of the material we have access to directly adapts what toriyama considers to be canonical
>saying both the anime and manga are non-canon somehow means I think the anime is canon
She's been saying this for a while, and I think that too. Toei and Bandai have been pushing the SDBH brand for a while now, and they had already mentioned that they were planning to bring it to the West. In the last couple of months they released things like the promotional anime and the new game for the Switch, it's just a matter of time before they create a "normal" anime.It would make sense. They would have complete creative control to do whatever they wanted without having to worry about the canon and Toriyama.
>the headcanon of a senile fuck is the only canon version
Shut the fuck up
Jokes on you a few toeifags unironically defend the DBZ and DB animes as more canon than the original DB manga because "f-fuck toriyama I think toei did better so it's canon!"
IIRC there was even an event in the US where you could play SDBH with unique american cards just like the nips do with their japanese cards. It's pretty obvious they are trying to milk Heroes even more than before
The manga probably stays on-model more often, though.
Same
Thoughts?
That's because you are a shitty jobjetafag who is as assblasted as the jobbing prince about CHADKU
Cringe.
Nothing after artifical human number 9 is Canon.
>Vegeta does a new variation of his big ki beam
>Goku copies another move
>Trunks does something useful without being suddenly turned into a beast
>the last transformation is perfected and improved instead just change it for a new one
Man Black arc was pure DB
If goku had not wasted so much time talking before leaving he could have gone teleported away and back safely with kaio and Co.
>Keketa boogeyman
Be he did not want to get back.
The remake is never as good as the original
no because goku is objectively a shitty character, he is a manequin with no personality, a true psychopathic antihero except without any self awareness while everyone pretends as if he never did anything wrong, and can't even go for longer than 3 minutes without pissing his pants
Who is this?
This post is wrong form beginning to end.
So, I never took that the instant transmission took a lot of energy to do. Goku never seemed tired after using it, he never said it was tough, maybe it took focus cause it wasn't utilized in actual battle a lot, but he always seemed to just pop into a place and nearly between dimensions/planets like it was nothing. So him not having enough energy to do it in the new arc strikes me as weird.
Every time Goku used IT in battle he had way more energy than in the last chapters. He can't even go SS
I mean I get that, but he didn't have to go Super Saiyan to teleport or he never had some aura of ki fly around when he used it. He just did it. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it feels really convenient that this is the arc it happens after all the other arcs.
You are acting like if Goku was drained exactly to the point he's almost able to go SS but no, he's far, far more drained, even showing his aura seems exhausting, he has never been so drained (sans when being injured/KO) before.
>really convenient
Well yeah, gotta remove some tricks to add some tension. Honestly the only odd thing I find is that this should have happened before too, I'm sick of the protagonists having dozens cheap tricks they could use (fusion/Zeno button/Beerus/Whis/teleport/etc)
Dragon Ball Super Zwei in 5 days bros!
I mean I did really like that one filler episode with the gateway to the underworld propped open by the sword.
Stop trying to equate canon (manga) with non-canon (the garbage Toei puts out), Mendez
>spics hate any weak character
Basically this. They are obsessed with power levels, so it's normal for them to hate weak characters.
NEVER. KISSED. HIS. WIFE.
FUCKING GRANDPA IN HIS 40s
>spics hate Shithan
He has kissed his wife, it was the idea of cpr he was unfamiliar with.
This
What the hell is Gogeta day?
>he's a non-canon filler
Source: my ass.
Here's your (You), satisfied?
Me and my bro have been doing a rewatch. Shit's timeless, man.
It's time to put Dragon Ball down and actually watch something good
It occurs to me we have never actually seen vegetas mother.
>threw a tantrum because people were shitting on him.
Seems like the logical thing to do when you have people shitting on you for no discernible reason. This idea that you're a sperg if you don't welcome shitty treatment with open arms is one aspect of Yea Forums's culture that should have died already, and I say that as a fairly oldfag.
Evil Goku? Broly? Future Trunks? Bardock? Gine? Thoughts?
nobody wants to see vegetas shitty family full of jobbers anyways
He did actually semi-predict this shit though
Cope and concede
To be honest he's right, those are terrible ideas, they only work because the fanbase has shit taste and likes garbage like Broly and Jiren.
That's Tsun
>not even in flashbacks
>movie breaks records
tfw gohan used to be top 1 in ratings
No, it is confirmed that Toriyama and Toei hates him and will do their best to subvert his expectation
Literally only in the Cell arc, in the Buu arc people liked a character who wasn't even present more than Jobhan
Toriyama Sensei's greatest creations.
>even Piccolo, who had ZERO fights, was more popular than Jobhan
nuBroly is a worse version of old Broly
Cheelai is an ugly shrek thot
Lemo is based
>EDGYlyfag is still mad an objectively superior Broly appeared
You sound gay.
People are just tired of watching Goku and Vegeta as the main characters. Broly felt like a breath of fresh air.
they 100% will NOT announce DBS coming back on SDBH website
BUT, they'll probably announce a cross promotion between it and 2uper similar to the one it had with Broly, meaning a 2uper announcement is happening elsewhere before
I argue that Japan likes Gohan, but they see him more as Goku's son and Piccolo's disciple more than a main character.
Broly in the new movie is the same character as the one from Movie 8. All he did was remove the character's irrational hatred of Goku.
For a brief moment I thought we might actually see his grandmother making sauce.
>Broly in the new movie is the same character as the one from Movie 8
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>meaning a 2uper announcement is happening elsewhere before
Let it go, it is not going to happen. Dragon Ball Super is not going to return this year.
Pretty neat, I like how his box is better too.
Guess it's time to buy one.
Toyopaco fanfic
>toyopacos are pathetic GTpedos
What the fuck
See? Jirenpedos are acting up again
Pathetic Panpedos
Why do Panpedos ruin every thread
You give it attention
Both are so fucking boring.
Why is DB porn so low quality
probably the only on-model Pan stuff. there needs to be more.
Based jobrenmierdas never stop being asshurt!
based
>I-It wasn't me ahahaha....
>playing with toys
yikes...
How will bojack change when hes canon?
Why did Bojack do it?
Based Panfriend
Imagine thinking that SHITren is anything more than the latest sHit, and obsessively compare him with GODly because you're too much of a coward, that likes Jobhan but falseflags with SHITren...
Yikes
So the z fighters wouldn't have to kill a girl
>toys
Cope jihadhanspic
but they killed frieza
Good, I loved Super and can't wait for it to come back. I need to rewatch Z but it's Dragonball > Super > Z > GT unless that rewatch changes my mind.
>jihadhanspic
This is getting too silly
turdhan
Hopefully he kills more waifubait thots like Android 18
In gohans defence goku couldve just handed it too him
AESTHETIChan
See this? This is peak performance.
AHEM
Gohan is in the most powerful unfused form and he doesn't have the reflexes to catch something thrown from base Goku
18 is not a waifubait
So Toriyama traced Yamcha for that Vegeta panel?
I think Toyo traced Yamcha and not Vegeta, would explain why Goku's arm looks so weird.
>7 years prior, Goku absolutely proud of his son, can die happy.
>7 years later, absolutely disappointed, has to come back to life.
yes toys, you manchild.
Jesus, just how much money does Broly make. I'm honestly suprised they haven't done a broly spin off series already.
YamCHAD's lost twin brother. Probably just as based and chad as him.
Yamcha (Forma Dr. Slump)
Broly is easily the most popular movie character, Gogetaspics can't even compete. It's possible that he's the most popular DBS character other than Goku too.
But if Goku is traced because it's a relatively similar pose then Vegeta was traced too, Pedro
Jobren and jobhan V UI Roshi, who wins?
Roshi solos
I don't remember yamcha being so based
Wouldn't bojack have been stronger than final form freeza here?
The real question is, why Vegeta can't hold a candle to Broly with all the canon focus he has?
I know Vegeta also gets lots of merch, but it's always alongside Goku, and the same fucking figure for all forms.
The show ended more than a year ago and SSBE Vegeta is hardly in any merch, compare that to how they promoted Omen.
Yes, also Zangya might be
>yamcha clearly knows that gohan is his son, but denies him and lets goku, chichi and piccolo take care of him
based
Broly makes a lot of money because he's a completely original character instead of a rehash of older DB villains.
Vegeta is more marketable as a villain instead of an anti-hero.
>SSBE is hardly in any merch
Not even semi-canon, what did you expect?
Because he's boring to watch, while Goku and Broly are fun
What the fuck was his problem
SS Ikari and SSBE are both shit forms and Toei's fanfiction.
Toei made Trunks much stronger than Gohan, what did Toriyama do In response? He let Toyo write a weak, useless and still irrelevant Trunks.
Toriyama has the same amount of involvement in the manga and the anime, retard.
Repressed homosexuality
So would you say that Vegeta only took the (pseudo) deuteragonist spot because Toriyama shit the bed with other, more interesting characters?
>Toriyama has the same amount of involvement in the manga and the anime, retard.
Based dumbass, Toriyama sends the napkin he used to wipe his ass with for Toei, while he oversees and corrects everything he doesn't like in the manga.
Wrong, he oversees every anime storyboard, not to mention he wrote the entire script for the film, while the "canon" manga is only based on his original manga.
Are you lying or just an ignorant? Genuinely curious here
>Toriyama
>Doing anything
Had to deal with ningen all the time.
>Toriyama
>not doing things for the canon manga
Zamasu just wanted Gods and Supreme Kais to be more proactive in stopping threats to the universe. In any other anime/manga, he'd be the main character of the story, but Dragonball simply can't take focus off Goku long enough to give it's side characters screen time.
It seems like Toyotaro keeps drawing DB characters slimmer than they should be and doesn't know how to do expressions.
>the one time Shin is proactive, he's a useless jobber and needs the saiyans to help him
>he could have been proactive and one shot frieza like he said he could but didn't
>Toyotaro has a character swear for no reason
>Toriyamas doesn't
based
Frieza and King Cold were the only ones running the galaxy and keeping it in line thru fear. Shin and Beerus didn't care as long as he kept their universe stable. They rather go after things like Majin Buu, Broly, or Hirudegarn.
>Toyotaro
>drawing DB characters slimmer than they should
user...
This. Anyone who can replicate the style only makes 1-2 Videl doujins.
Nobody knows how to replicate Toriyama's style.
SSBE was kind of gay as it was a throwaway transformation with no great focus on it that was overshadowed by UI.
Ikari was awesome though, and was the only unique transformation in the movie.
He's talking about the other fanfic form Toei made (SS Ikari), not Broly's angered state
"why is he coming we don't want him here! Bigot! Fascist!"
he's not coming
"Why won't he come! Pussy! Snowflake!"
Ah, you lot just want to "protest": get together, smoke your dope, sing your singalongs, share your STDs, and feel all smug and important.
Missed opportunity. Don't worry. I'm sure you won't run of excuses reasons to party protest
The Trunks form was also called that? Yeah, literally no explanation forms aren't very good.
Hair without highlights.
Wrong thread, amigo
Why the fuck does Yamcha not have the scar on his cheek.
I liked the idea behind SSBE (Vegeta finds his own, seperate path to power), but the execution kinda sucked. Vegeta just pulls is out of his ass when he needs to fight Jiren.
SS Ikari was so dumb I actually forgot about it until just now.
How would you have killed off zamasu?
This.
So will we get cool shit on Gokus day or whatever the fuck that thing is called or nah
This is fucking coping if I've ever seen it.
Because spics and ameriburgers are basically the same and hate anything that isn't saiyan wank.
Stop fucking avatarfagging you inbred.
Lr family kamhemeha
Future Trunks' Spirit Bomb-Sword finishes him off, no bullshit with Zeno or Infinite Zamasu.
I know the sword itself is a little silly, but the idea of the combined strength of Trunks and all his mortal friends beating Zamasu is a good refutation of Zamasu's narcissism and hatred of mortals.
Give vegito a win
Vegito kills him. No asspull hakai or spirit bomb sword.
Zimzam goes Infinite
They flee to the present
Zimzam starts projecting into it
Beerus and Whis kick his ass back to the future
He has kissed his wife but not in the mouth, if you know what I mean.
Simple: Zamasu loses his immortality in exchange for now having a mere regeneration prowess. He can be killed but it would have to be from one hell of an attack...if they could even get that far.
Throw out the fusion time limit bullshit. Naturally Goku and Vegeta fuse in retaliation and here comes Vegetto. The battle isn't as one sided as the manga nor is it as even as the anime. Both deliver a significant amount of damage to each other.
The fight reaches its conclusion with Zamasu launching a frightening attack and Vegetto countering that with his Final Kamehameha. Commence the old fashion beam struggle.
Trunks feels as though he's obligated to be the one who must put an end to the terror that's plagued his timeline. Vegetto respects this and uses some power to cloak Trunks' entire body while still focusing on his assault. He gives Trunks the signal to chard forward into both the Final Kamehameha and Zamasu's sphere.
Meanwhile, Zamasu is going on another one of his rants on mortals and all that shit until he's completely caught off guard by Trunks suddenly emerging out of his attack before his eyes. Without a chance to react Trunks slices him in half with his sword. Vegetto takes the opportunity to push all his power into the Kamehameha and as a result overwhelms the beam struggle in his favor. Zamasu, still in two, is then engulfed and decimated.
Vegetto can defuse using the Super Dragon Balls sometime after the arc and in between some fun filler with the anime.
eh better than "OH MY GENKIDAMA" and "MILLIONS OF ZAMASU"
i'd take it
>Toei designed Kale
>Toyoraro still has to include her in his fanfiction
Chadnime = Canon
You forgot that the future is saved and Zeno gets cucked
You guys here playing Dokkan? I started some days ago and this is my team but some said its total trash and i should re-roll, is it that bad?
OP here from That's what would have made it so much better. Trunks really has been through hell enough outright destroying his timeline and having him and Mai live with doubles of themselves in an alternate universe/timeline was a retarded decision.
Cucking Zeno would have been justified.
>That beast on the left is nine years old
>manga
But they never said Toei designed Kale, they said Shueisha suggested femBroly for the ToP in a meeting. Also Toyotaro designed half the GoDs anyway so even if Toei designed Kale you would be full of shit.
Nice try tho, you can keep baiting
>Toei designed Kale, they said Shueisha suggested femBroly for the ToP in a meeting.
Ergo...Kale was then developed and added into the anime by Toei where in which Toyotaro adapted her into his manga. Are you a retard user?
Agreed, Trunks and Vegito deserves that happy end
Are you new? You want to play for a while to get new units that are decent heres a team for instance. Try to keep them in a theme
>d-death of the a-author
>h-he meant feeding a senzu bean
>toriyama is s-senile and b-bitter
>Soul and Soulless
W... What's this Toyobros??? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Not him, but is there really any point in this hair splitting? What we learned from ToP's interviews etc. is that aside of adapting outline in their own way, both Toyo and Toei can actually influence the outline itself. And that's what should have killed the most autistic members of both tribes.
>Adapting Moro's (Toyopaco's creation) arc
T-Toeikeks...
Also save your stones for guarrenteed featured ssr banners or guarrentted lr banners
You'd think they'd also care about their individual motivations as well. Half of these fgts didn't meet Gohan and even if they did barely cared and wouldn't recognize him without a little while as an adult so why listen to a midget they could tank.
t. No one
>guarrentted lr banners
Wait what
>falseflagger exposing himself
Falseflaggingbros...
You'll need about 200 of them when they come around
>Super Season 2/Whatever the fuck the next series will be called will look like this
Hold me bros, based yamamuro fucking off so we can have decent looking models again
broly movie was completely hollow, prove me wrong
>ergo: debunked headcanon
Are (You) a retard? They suggested femBroly so Toriyama added her to the script (and made Caulifla too) and then Toei and Toyotaro independently adapted the script like they always do
>but is there really any point in this hair splitting?
Idk, tell that to the retard that didn't know Toyotaro designed half the GoDs
Goku Warming up has more soul than the entire GT series
Lads... I need that LR Gohan and Goten now... Also give LR Ultimate Gohan with a transformation mechanic and a different name...
Nah, it's completely hollow of negative receptions, i agree with you Brolyfriend
but it's tardku, not goku
I don't know what's funnier, that this toeikek thinks an announcement that will be released in HEROES website is gonna be a new DBS anime or that he thinks the fanfic anime returning after a year of nothing would change a thing. Gregory's adventures weren't canon before, aren't now and will never be, the sooner you accept this the better
He will train them.
>headcanon
Using buzzwords without being able to comprehend its meaning doesn't make you look any smarter user. You just rephrased what I said here like the autist you are:
Wouldn't Vegeta train Bra?
It's not tardku it's gokek
Bra would rather be trained by Chadku.
Sauce?
>b-buzzwords!
But that was (used as) a buzzword, juan. Sorry you don't like when you are told your headcanon is wrong.
>You just rephrased what I said here
No, Paquito, you said Toei added Kale and Toyotaro adapted that, which is factually wrong. The one adding Kale was Toriyama and Toyotaro only adapted Toriyama's script while Toei adapted the same script with a different approach, Toei never adapted Toyo and Toyo never adapted Toei
>NOOO STOP CHALLENGING MY HEADCANONS
She has Bulma's genes so she will go for the Kakacock.
tardku sucks
>Toei added Kale and Toyotaro adapted that, which is factually wrong.
Kale was first and foremost introduced in the anime and she was also adapted into the manga by Toyotaro. This is fact. This happened. You denying it really makes me question the likelihood of your low brain capacity. I'm right and you're wrong. Cope.
I had forgotten that Zamasu two faces is a thing. Jesus Christ, what a shitty design.
>and then he tells Gohan to kiss Bra
It's Dr. Zamasu for you.
Seeand 2uper is not going to be announce. Stop believing in those twitterfags' lies.
Freiza's Lips.
Cock sucking lips.
frieza you killed my parents, friends, tortured my son twice, genocided milions? but you're strong so it's alright
You know even without being aware of the original one would question why Goku is even blushing to begin with.
Exit SHITku
>the anime (after adapt Toriyama's outline with Kale in) released Kale episodes before the manga (after adapt Toriyama's outline with Kale in) relased Kale chapters
>therefore Toei introduced Kale (even if we know it was Toriyama) and Toyotaro adapted Toei (even if we know he never did such a thing because the manga and anime are independient)
Look at this fucking retard
Pathetic
You can't have DB without Goku. The waku waku is inevitable
Toriyama's original outline didn't include either Kale or Caulifla. Kale was created by Shuiesha/Toei and as a result Toriyama created Caulifla. She was introduced into the anime first then Toyotaro followed by adapting her into the manga. I have reality on my side and your delusion can't compare.
Happy Jiren
>You can't have DB without Goku
It's called DBZ
He's happy about his tranny operation going well
Goku is in the majority of DBZ.
2-0
Real Chad's play Legends
That's not how it work. Toriyama created the outline, which was then modified by everyone involved, including Toei (Kale). From this the final outline was created, which is the one that both parties (Toyotaro and Toei) followed. The same thing happened with Future Trunks Arc. Toyotaro was the one that included Vegeto Blue, however this one came out first in the anime.
>Toriyama's original outline
No shit retard, learn to read, Juan >"Toriyama added her to the script"
Toriyama script had Kale and Caulifla, not the original one, but the final one, just like his original script for the previous arc didn't include Vegetto but the final one did. The one including stuff to the outline is always Toriyama, never Toei.
>can't even type "Shueisha"
>thinks Shueisha's decisions are Toei's
Unironically off yourself, retard.
>She was introduced into the anime first then Toyotaro followed by adapting her into the manga
Too bad that has been proven wrong already. You mean "the anime released its version based on the script first and then Toyotaro released its version based on the same script later", toeijuan. Now stop baiting and kill yourself, for real this time
>That's not how it work.
It's what happened. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? The girls weren't in the initial outline. It was Toei who were responsible for the conception of Kale and Caulifla was created as a tag along by Toriyama brainlet-kun.
>Toriyama script had Kale and Caulifla, not the original one, but the final one
Which was due to Toei deciding to create Kale. Face it, you've lost.
THIS, it's said and it can't be unsaid, kale and caulifla confirmed as shit.
toriyama finally got the heights right
>Majority of DBZ
>Dies
>King Kai world
>Jobs to a irrelevant manlet
>Late to namek
>Jobs immediately via body change
>Chilling in capsule
>"Kills" Frieza
>Procastinate on Yadrat
>Jobs to virus
>Jobs to Nuke
>Jobs to a backstabbing manlet
>Super "I-I CAN DEFEAT HIM I SWEAR!" Saiyan 3
>Vegito
>Bomb
>fin
kek based
>Which was due to Toei
No, Juan, was due to Shueisha, and even if it was due to Toei (which again, is wrong) that would mean nothing because Toyotaro already did the same the previous arc with SSB Vegetto.
Congratulations, everything you said and implied is wrong in every fucking sense
How does that refute my point that Goku was involved throughout Z? It's irrelevant of what happened to him. His inclusion was there.
What in tarnation was his problem
You've conceded yourself that both Kale and Caulifla weren't in the original outline: and it's been documented that once discussion was made to create Kale as a response to Broly's popularity, Toriyama decided to create Caulifla as a tag along. Do your research next time and don't talk about shit you have zero knowledge in.
yikes imagine playing a game with worse rates and somehow worse art
Pan thread
Yeah, but it's nothing compared to Gohan
>Kidnapped and berserk
>one year of development (inb4 N-NOT CANON)
>witnessing the horror of battle
>piccolo sacrifice and berserk
>slept with manlet
>saves dende
>ball enhancement process from obese doc
>"fights" recoome
>held back 2nd form frieza
>witnessing android horror
>playing detective with Trunks
>Pacifisthan out of nowhere
>ded robot=SS2
>Emohan destroys Incel
>Incel destroys Emohan
>Payback with dad
>Saiyaman
>Videl
>Dabura, Babidi and Buu
>Mystichan
>Jobs to Buu
See? Fucking Kekhan had more moments than him, what the fuck, i could list Vegeta down and he'd still surpass Gokek
reminder that goku doesn't care about her, uub is stronger
I remember as a kid, when Gohan first gets left in the wilderness, I thought that he had trouble balancing because of his new shoes, not losing his tail.
AND THIS... IS... TO GO... EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!
>You've conceded yourself that both Kale and Caulifla weren't in the original outline
Yeah because I have been saying that since the start you fucking retard, nobody is talking about the ORIGINAL outline, just the outlines overall (which includes the original ones and the revised ones)
>and it's been documented that once discussion was made to create Kale as a response to Broly's popularity, Toriyama decided to create Caulifla as a tag along
Yeah and the suggestion of Kale came from Shueisha, Shueisha suggested something during the ToP arc and Toriyama changed the script, just like before that Toyotaro suggested something during Black arc and Toriyama changed the script too. I have been saying this since the start, pathetic toeikek
>Do your research next time and don't talk about shit you have zero knowledge in
Okay that was enough, try with a better bait if you want more replies from now on
AESTHETIChan
Goku isn't faithful, he'll drop Uub for the next powerful guy, just like he moved from Beerus to Jiren and then to Broly.
SOUL
soulless
You are denying the reality of Kale being first introduced to the general public (meaning us retard) in the anime before eventually being adapted in the manga by Toyotaro. Don't try to save face inbred you've already embarrassed yourself to the 79 IPs (not including you) here.
I don't think Vegeta would want to put his cute princess through vigorous training, so I feel like Bra would ask Uncle Chadku to train her. Plus, she gets to train with Pan.
all AESTHETIChan designs are soul
I really wish Gohan kept the Piccolo look. It suited him
Beerus would mop the floor with jiren and Broccoli combined just because of his God asspull power level
>Adulthan
>Soul
You dogs can die and nobody would miss you
ctrl f Jiren=6
ctrl f Kale=24
Without the massive samefagging problem we have on DBS threads, we can assess that Kale is more popular than Jiren.
Thoughts?
Who is this cute character? There is nothing more cute than this thing on Super!
PUREhan
>if a character is spammed by the same retard in a shitposting general we can come to the conclusion that said character is very popular
No I'm fairly certain that's just you being a retard user.
>Spammed=/=popular
Ah, you're baiting, here's your pity (You)
How do you guys do this literally every day? I'm actually impressed
Waifu team is unstoppable.
Broly will never be weaker than someone whose best hype is to be on a past Broly's ballpark.
SILENCE.
Also Toriyama will probably want to expand those subtle NTR undertones with Bulma to Bra to make Cuckgetafags seethe even more.
>Spammed=/=popular
Yes retard-kun I'm very proud of you for being able to figure that out. My only gripe is that you couldn't think of that before you decided to post that retarded nonsense.
El Hermano is _________
Jobrenfans (kek) are free to have actual discussions of the character, but we all know there are no jobrenfans, and the one spamming doesn't care about anything with substance.
So yes Kale is much more powerful, interesting and popular than Jobren.
I'd agree with you on the rates, but worst Art?? Nah. One of Legends strongest points is the Card Arts.
Wish I got Ribrianne. At least I got Ex Bulma, and Videl SM >_>
Basta, perro. ¿No te cansas de la vergüenza y la vergonzosa protesta que tu maestro superior reparte de manera indiscriminada debido a tu incorregible e interminable malversación y contundente, acosado RECHAZO para obedecer los decretos sagaces y se adhiere al decoro debido que tu espléndido y divino maestro tiene así? ¿Amablemente presentado delante de ti? ¿Deseas ser respetado, atesorado, recompensado y alabado? ¿Buscas el orgullo de tu maestro más superior y benevolente, a la vez severo e inflexible?
Entonces debes hacer frente y arrodillarte. Concede y obedece. Postrarte, perro. EN SEGUIDA.
>OH NO WHY IS HIS TEXT GREEN?!?
literal Newfag huh? Poor lad
I pulled Ribrianne so much shes 5 star. Couldn't get ex bulma though.
BASED
Bra is for Broly
Imagine being this obsessed with a character from two arcs ago.
>Kale is much more powerful,
The same Kale who was one shot by Jiren? No.
>interesting
Kale is an overly attached trash character who fails in all aspects. She's not attractive so she fails in the waifu appealing category, she's shunned by Broly fans alike and she's very one dimensional.
>and popular than Jobren
Arguable.
hmm... user? You realize that Broly is like at least 40 years older than Bra, right?
>being this much of a brainlet
Hiro needs to blacklist Latin America.
That didn't stop Mai.
Imagine thinking that SHITren is a better character than Keru-chan lmao
At least Keru is cute, SHITren is liquid shit through and through!
Kale is just female Broly, that's all her character is and ever will be. Like just imagine being Kale, designed to be a copy of OG Broly then completely stomped to irrelevancy by Nu Broly. This conservation reminded me Kale even existed. JUST.
Kek and?
Based cute chan
Also bare in mind Kale was made long after it as decided to include the actual Broly into Super. So her purpose in the story is deemed pointless.
Kale is not cute. She's way down in the bottom with Jiren in the interesting characters scale, since she's just rule 63 of an already boring character, then made even more boring when they took away the berserker trait with that controlled jobber form. It's hard to tell who's a worse character.
Imagine trying this hard to debate a bait
Kek'd.
That's a good pairing if Cheelai doesn't win but I like the idea of her ending up with revived Raditz more. It's like a spiritual successor to gobul.
Remember when Cabron was based?
Kale will be around forever as a waifu and part of the first female fusion, not to mention until further notice, Kale is the strongest mortal female ever in the DB franchise, but this is only for the powerlevels brainlets that think Jobren is a good character.
>so strong only a gimmick can possibly take him down
He's still based as fuck
Reminder that Zamasu is, without doubt, the most complex, realistic, and resonant antagonist the franchise has ever had. While the majority of the others have been cartoonishly evil with schemes and motivations outside the scope of the real world (I'm evil and I'm gonna blow up a planet/galaxy/the universe haw haw haw), Zamasu's slow descent into madness coupled with his utter belief that he was doing the right and just thing creates a realistic and fascinating juxtaposition. Consider that Zamasu is canonically pure-hearted, because he TRULY believes that what he is doing--exterminating mortals, who he sees as an evil plague, a threat to the peace and prosperity of all existance--is benevolent. He takes an example of a motivation that has happened countless times in the real world and amps it up to Dragon Ball levels, and THAT is why he is unarguably the most compelling villain the franchise has ever had, if not necessarily the most memorable.
Havent been following the manga, whats the story of this arc so far?
Weak goat who isnt stronger than SSG
nope, anime cant be canon cause it doesnt follow manga so only db and dbz are canon
>T-Toriyama designed it so it's canon
Stupid fucking dog. Kneel at my feet.
In an ideal world, DBposting is a bannable offense.
>Super is literally lumped in with GT, a non-canon Toei fanfiction
>y-you don't have an a-a-argument
Concede.
Ancient warlock between SS2 and SS3 tier that humiliates god tier fighters without sweat because has a spell that allows him to manipulate and even absorb the living energy of the universe, he was only defeated because the Grand Kaioshin sealed his magic 10 millions years ago. He recovered part of his magic some years ago and now he escaped and is trying to get the DB for some reason, but they got Buu to the battlefield and as a majin is immune to the spell the goat uses to absorb living energy so he can actually fight where Goku and Vegeta were obliterated.
Kale is;
Tall
Strong
Beautiful on the inside and subjectively on the outside
She looks cool in her unique SS
Half of Kefla who has a growing fanbase
Jiren is;
Ugly
Short
Looks like shit
Dresses like a fucking clown
Rivals Gohan for the worst fanbase
I accept your concession.
>gokuchud delusion
People shit on him because he's a fucking moron that's stuck up his own ass and constantly makes shitty predictions that always turn out to be wrong, and even then he won't admit to it, instead trying frantically to damage control and babbling about how it's VERY STRANGE that his retarded prediction sustained by a bunch of magical
unnamed sources was a bunch of bullshit. Fuck you for defending him. Fat ugly virgin sack of friendless loser shit. Kill yourself. Fat bitch.
I don't even want to ask who do you like or what do you find interesting on DB
Don't post the cropped version
>Ajay knows about animation
lmaO
>replying 8 hours later with more baiting
Quiet, macaco
>four weaklings
Fail is shit and ought to be treated like trash
Dumb fusion fodder
>Toriyama's headcanon
Your master didn't give you leave to exit your kennel, dog.
But Jobren is a weaker version of these scissors (Broly), he can only beat Buu you silly billy
>thought he was safe until an illustrious, attractive, intellectual, superior mangaGOD came back from fucking his eighth bitch of the day to unwind a little by putting the Toeidogs in their place
Too bad for you, bub.
lmao imagine being as much of a fucking spic as this user
>Juanren barely beats base Vegeta and struggles with base Goku
>Chadro beats both like nothing
Hmmmmm
I like Mr. Satan and Old Kai.
Everything you posted is wrong. Everything. All of it.
>can't do anything but babysit Zeno
KEK
Bra is destined to be Broly's n° 1 concubine.
>he can only beat Buu but cannot beat Moro who in turn can beat Buu
Retard
>look mom I can use Paint
Toriyama's headcanon is not canon untill it gets approved by the people he works with. And that would be Chadoei
Cry more
He still is, Buu is going down hard.
UI is out of question, because Toei fanfics don't work on the manga, fusion won't come back so soon, so what?
You got BTFO dog.
Blown the ABSOLUTE fuck out
187854431
This is the weakest bait I've ever seen from you, exposted Shitposter-kun. You used to be at least semi-believable.
>Whenever I supervise anime
Show me where he specified the Super anime, Pedrito. I'll wait.
>literally posts proof that Toriyama thinks the anime is shit and Toyo is superior
BASED
Oh shit.
187854490
>still believing Senileyama's word is godly and it becomes universally canon
Keksimus maximus
>whenever he supervises the anime
Never then, thanks for confirming what everyone already knew.
187854584
You're boring. You'll receive no further acknowledgement from your superior master.
>pic proves literally the opposite
Boring, try harder
>s-s-show me footage of Toriyama working in Toei's offices right n-now
You are losing and fast
Concession accepted.
>he literally says he doesn't have to worry about Toyo fucking up while he has to fix shit constantly in the shitnime
Cope, concede, and kneel before me.
You guys realize that Toriyama is a once in a century artist, right? Toyo wasn't chosen because he's a good artist but because his attention to detail in Toriyama's work and taking directions well.
Silence, dog.
So you have no argument? Thanks for conceding so dutifully and obediently, pet.
>Toeipoodles are having another meltdown
That's pretty early.
BASED
>cares about the Chadnime
>ignores the fanfic completely
I wonder why
>these mental gymnastics
I love laughing at Toeispics as they continually get BTFO while their cancelled fanfiction shitnime slips further and further into obscurity.
>pic comes out of a recently interview with Toyotaro
>B-B-BUT HE MAY BE REFERRING TO THE ANIME FROM 20 YEARS AGO?
HAHA FUCK I am so SMART at this
you are making the same mistake krillin did, user
Kneel, dogpet. Cope, puppetcuck.
>no argument
I win again.
Enough, my precious pet. You've begun to bore your master. KNEEL.
I have been following the whole thing and think you should concede to him
>reads argument
>l-lol hahah you funny xd
NEXT
Chads of Yea Forums
>argument
That thing you don't have?
>NEXT
Oh, you're that boring shitposter. Don't you have anything better to do than falseflag all day like a sperging faggot?
What the fuck are you talking about. Why are people here so obsessed with identifying their boogeyman on an anonymous site
>"trascend the UR limit!" on rainbows
I knew Shitrenfags where faggots but damn.
Shut up, retard. Your post style is obvious and you're literally always here. It's not rocket science.
Thats an edit retard. Its UI limit
Pipe down, dogshitter, your concession has already been taken, so be a good boy and behave, and maybe, maybe, I'll be kind enough to give it back.
Oh really, well, how about I take your concession instead?
>Tardlyfags
>post pic from 2017 with jobren being a faggot
Yikes
Don't dare speak to your master in such an incorrigible and contumacious manner, you disgusting, odious hound. TO YOUR KENNEL AT ONCE.
Reminder to report the krillinspic for avatarfagging
>Jobrenjuan proves he's too stupid to understand how rock-paper-scissors works
HAHAHAHAHAH
>still a rainbow
Still a faggot.
i love my precious petfu
>has a mind so simple that compares complex characters with a fucking children's game so he can grasp it
Based cringe
That's it, you're not getting it back.
Get your flea-ridden mongrel ass into your kennel THIS INSTANT, dog, or you will know SWIFT and TERRIBLE WRATH.
What happened to studio Pea Cock and studio Cock Pit?
>complex characters
But that's my point, juanrenfag, in your simple world of delusions Jobren being able to beat Buu means he can beat Moro, but that's not how it works so Moro beats Jobren like nothing because Jobren isn't immune to his magic like Buu is
Someone should hire me for being this much of an expert in arguments.
>buu immune to magic
Pure unadulterated headcanon
Silence I say.
>Buu isn't immune to the magic spell Moro uses to absorb genki
Literally shown and stated in the last chapter, juanrenfag
>inb4 n-nOT CANON
Even if it wasn't Moro only exist in the manga so this discussion can only be for the manga. You lost.
Time for a CHADREN thread
>Literally shown and stated in the last chapter, juanrenfag
post
Fuck I fucked up the subject field
Holy fuck I'm too good at this, I LITERALLY can't lose.
>no red vegeta
kek
holy fucking DOGSHIT i'm so fucking INVINCIBLE
I'm so fucking smart at this HOLY FLYING FUCKING FUCK NOBODY CAN FUCKING DEBATE ME
>doxing yourself
twitter.com
The fillers were my favorite parts of Dragon Ball before i even knew they were fillers so i kinda agree
>I agree
It's not a matter of agreeing. The original manga is factually canon. It doesn't matter if you prefer the anime or not, you fat cuck.
have sex
>can't refute facts he doesn't like
>v-v-virgin
Quiet, dog. I accept your concession.
>implying based baggie hasn't been the source of many things discussed here
Based retard
>literal who
>source of anything
>literal who that correctly predicted that UI couldn't possibly be in the movie because no merch of it was made for said movie
Newfag