Why did not anyone protect his smile?
Fruits Basket
Jack Scott
Kayden Watson
Jack Taylor
Daniel Walker
Isaiah Lewis
Subs when?
Charles Bennett
Slut
Aaron Ward
Me on the left
Jackson Price
In this version cat kills the faggot cousin
r-right
Lucas Gomez
Find a flaw
Logan Howard
Pedo
Lucas Watson
are they dead?
David Jackson
Yes, this is the last episode. Thank you for watching.
Hunter James
Impregnated her just once and didn't give her a cute daughteru.
Nathaniel Watson
Took 8 years to get waifu preggo
Kevin Moore
Spoiler this shit up god damn
Wyatt Harris
>This isn't a girl
Nigga, do you not see the lip-gloss they're wearing?
Levi Diaz
It's not a natural love
Asher Sanders
This scene is arguably the reason why cat won
James Ortiz
Is Cat the alpha Chad of this series?
Brandon Bailey
damn takaya baited hard yuki x tohru at the beginning of the series
Camden Howard
What a stupid game.
Eli White
Best grandpa.
Easton Allen
She was going the Hana Yori Dango route. Except Kyo is actually best boy and not a psycho
Cameron Rivera
For me, its the reverse trap
Kayden Perry
No more dumb than Red Rover
Connor Harris
Did Tohru meet Akito yet?
Kevin Reyes
Sakamoto's voice makes me diamonds.
Joshua Lewis
Based gramps. What the fuck was their problem?
Gabriel Thomas
This has no rights to be good and comfy
Elijah Price
Kek.
Ian Nguyen
>we were just teasing, we didn't think she was actually getting DP'd by bishounen
Julian Taylor
Isaiah Reed
Why did they neuter his sass in the reboot
Ian Morgan
Cooper Robinson
You might be gay
Jackson King
Jealousy over Tohru getting to live with two hot guys, you heard the way he called Yuki and Kyo hot, her cousin is an in the closet faggot.
Aaron Roberts
How many and which chapters did they adapt?
Lucas Garcia
Neuter him how?
If you mean by getting rid of all his pervy jokes, that was only exclusive to the 2001 anime and was one of the things Takaya hated most about it. Shigure in the manga ain't no pedo and is actually quite a bit serious.
Robert Garcia
It has all the rights to be this good and comfy if it keeps the quality it's gonna be the best remake ever made and easily aoty
Dominic Smith
>being attracted to a fine lady voiced by a woman is gay
It is, if you are a little girl.
Jaxon Collins
Repent, sinner
Jordan Lewis
Tohru really is cute.
Nicholas Jenkins
One example is the food reheating scene with Kyo, not necessarily just the dirty old man jokes.
Jaxson Hall
Do her cousins have any role in the story after this?
Charles Thompson
Yes.
Colton Moore
We're all little girls here user.
Nicholas Long
RIP my heart.
Cooper Williams
Was the food reheating scene in the manga? It's been a while since I read it
Charles Lopez
Shame Sailor Moon Crystal couldn't live up to this remake standard
Carson Watson
cute rat
Jonathan Lewis
Regular traps are for healthy, red-blooded straight men
Reverse traps are for faggots.
Charles Watson
It never had a chance with Toei at hand.
Jaxson Morris
Yamato 2199
Levi Butler
So this is what gay people actually think. Interesting.
Robert Sullivan
Naoko should honestly sell the rights to TMS studio if this remake is any indication.
Leo Perez
I don't think trap lovers are the gay ones here user.
Its quite simple, one looks completely like a girl the other like a man.
If you're attracted on sight to the latter but not the former than you're probably homo.
Meanwhile plenty a man has been proved by a convincing trap, its perfectly for any straight guy to be attracted to them.
Jeremiah Foster
Oh yeah forgot about that one
Bentley Powell
I'm the rice ball too.
Ayden King
Your waifu a shit!
Julian Sullivan
daddy shigure!
Luis Miller
How could she look to him as a daddy replacement when he's so close to her age?
Joseph Roberts
Would Shigure/Akito count as a daughter-waifu type ship?
Austin White
he is a daddy figure though
I'd call him daddy
no homo
hmm..
Jack Ortiz
How did he manage to get away with this?
Lucas White
Spoon-feed me, who wins the tohrubowl?
Elijah Gray
None other than best boy
Logan Lewis
in the end?
its hard to remember but I think it was Kyo
Kevin Phillips
Fuck man, Gramps is the greatest person ever, making Tohru cry should be a criminal offense.
Nathan Miller
The Sohmas have a police problem
Jaxson Gonzalez
rich families get away with a lot user
Brayden Clark
Crazy mom who hates her and a dead father
If only Akira could've lived and seen what Shigure's intentions were for his daughter then maybe we could've seen him beat the shit out of him.
Parker Flores
Boy they're going fucking slow with this. Not that I dislike an expanded adaptation, but if they're going to cover the whole story it's going to take forever.
Michael Campbell
Damn it all, Yea Forums, I don't think I'm prepared for all an entire feels trip later in the anime.
Adam Fisher
based grampa should be the mascot for all future fruits basket threads.
I think they planned something like 50 episodes
Luis Bennett
I don't even mind, let them take their time, Fruits Basket is something that needs to be properly experienced.
Joseph Taylor
It's 136 chapters, it should be at least 130+ episodes long
Joseph James
75
Michael Sanders
Shigure did literally nothing wrong
Carson Bell
this
daddy is perfect
Jeremiah Rodriguez
Kyo, they have 3 kids together. Yuki ends up with this girl Machi who got kicked out of her family home because her parents thought she was trying to kill her baby brother
It's going to be two seasons at least and at this point we're doing a chapter an episode. I'm perfectly OK with it.
I honestly love Thoru's grandpa. We need more of him. But this version did this episode way better than the manga and the original anime did it. IT was an honest improvement.
It would have killed his sickly ass anyways. Akira ain't beating the shit out of no one.
Anthony Russell
Do you think he would have approved of Dog for his precious daughterfu?
Gavin Watson
Dog is the Alpha Chad of Fruits Basket
Aaron Thompson
Seeing how his wife is pretty shitty, yeah probably.
Brayden Brooks
This loli loves older men.
Colton Jackson
if shigure fucked someone while in dog form would that be bestiality
Ian Butler
It's going to be around 39-48 episodes, screencap this.
I can't watch it yet, What did they change?
Jackson Richardson
Dog is the biggest cuck in the series
Connor Price
Literally gets cucked by Beta Rooster
Hunter Thomas
I have been wondering this since I was 11 and watched the series for the first time.
Jayden Myers
>Everyone ends up in a straight ship
>All the trannies go back to their birth genders
>Tons of older men/younger women age gap ships
>Has a loli lust over older man dick only
Is Takaya from /pol/?
All this manga needed was some shitting on blacks and Jews and it would've been completely based and rightwingpilled
Justin Martinez
No wonder I like this so much. This remake made anime great again.
Isaiah Reed
also how does it work with trannies
is the transformation based on whether they have a dick/vagina, on chromosomes, on whether they are attracted to the zodiac person...?
Michael Miller
the monster
Bentley Sanders
Fruits Basket is Trump Approved
Eli Williams
RItsu literally transforms as soon as he hugs Tohru, basically confirming that the curse BTFO trannies "identities" and only cares about biological reality.
Based.
Nathaniel Ramirez
hm
that means that the optimum relationship for a zodiac is homosexual, since its the most normal they can have
Bentley Hill
Oh boy, tumblr and twitter are going to have a field day with this series now that its in the limelight again kek
Charles Howard
Tell me Yea Forums, if women are supposed to be the more progressive gender, why does shojo tend to be so right-winged, even more-so than your average harem or seinen series?
I mean just look at Usagi Drop
Josiah Adams
because Japanese women probably act the same as the West but seem to on some level want a more traditional marriage etc.
so in women-dominated series it comes out
Joshua Bennett
if cat had kidnapped the cousin too it would have been the best remake
Benjamin Evans
I only watched the original but I don't think we ever see them again. Or gramps for that matter.
Jaxson Gutierrez
I think gramps does show up at some point again in the manga
the original anime was only part of the manga and deviated in parts too
Eli Gray
Reminder to the lolicon degenerates that this isn't an age gap ship
Robert Sullivan
I see constant shitting on Shigure on every fruits basket thread, why? What did he do?
Carson Sanchez
>ratboy turns everyone gay
Juan Parker
He's a literal motherfucker
Slept with his gf's mom
Kevin Adams
Gramps show up near the end, he's a cool dude.
Jose Hall
I wish /pol/fags would just vanish
Liam Howard
t
Liam Reyes
Women have more fucked-up sexual fantasies than men. See My Secret Garden for details.
Jaxson Morales
God-tier pairings:
Haru/Rin
Good pairings:
Cat/Tohru
Yuki/Machi
Kakeru/His gf
Ok pairings:
Kisa/Hiro
Ayame/Mine
Meh Pairings:
Uotani/Kureno
Hatori/homeroom teacher
Fucked up but made sense for the characters:
Akito/Shigure
Absolute madman bagged himself a 14 year old homeless delinquent:
Tohru’s dad/Tohru’s mom
Grayson Hall
>Tohru’s dad/Tohru’s mom
Teacher at 20's not bad
Jacob Johnson
>Shigure/Akito
>Made sense
It makes sense on her side but it doesn't for Shigure at all, why would he out of all the boys who had that dream be so effected and fall in love with her just for that, especially considering the kind of person he is?
Nathaniel Hill
I don't quite get his reasoning.
Robert Watson
Calling the police, an actual pedo showed up
Levi Anderson
This is the real Chad of the series, bagging a 14 year old middle schooler, the absolute madman!
Austin Butler
This episode was far better than the same chapter in the manga and the old series equivalent. Based.
Luis Miller
Whose reasoning? the dude or grandpa?
Daniel Butler
How many chapters till the kyo reveal?
Nolan Hill
Female shoujo mangaka art is truly revolting
Justin Gonzalez
Cry more, Shigure is a loving husbando to his waifu
Michael Johnson
My memory is hazy but dosen't he get taken out by a Japanese cold? Dosen't seem very chad-like.
Asher Walker
>Beloved future spouse
What did he mean by this?
Dylan James
>No development or background to explain his character
>Flimsy motivation
>Only there for shippingfaggotry
Gee, I wonder why...
Brody Gray
Liked the first episode, but goddamn, I'm a straight male.
Gabriel Rodriguez
No really, I was about to bust a vein in my head if best grandpa did not intervene.
Lincoln Howard
wow you want some cookie?
Joseph Thomas
this episode is the FIRST one... that i maayyyybe prefer over the 2001 ver....
Bentley Morris
But you can NOT beat how in the 2001ver, that legendary opening song came on at the end along with Toru tearing up and Kyo being there. damn.
Benjamin Ward
Find a flaw
Jordan Reed
Why keep citing this awful adaptation?
Luke Rogers
The Japanese Cold is the most dead disease known to mankind.
For Fruits Basket is one of the best anime openings of all time. that song is probably was the original anime has over this one so far. I suspect that I am going to like this one more because the episode I disliked the most from the 2001 anime was the episode that was done today and this time it was much stronger.
Net week is the School Festival right?
Logan Ward
there are none
Ayden Edwards
Man, older shoujo shows sure were quite ruthless.
Sebastian Evans
Don't worry this series is incredibly accommodating to straight male needs, its actually a "big friend" and /pol/ series in disguise
There are tons of delicious lolis that come in later on who will make your dick come diamonds.
Michael Gutierrez
>Ever liking the 2001 version
Outside of the OST its complete shit and the mangaka agrees that's why we even needed this reboot in the first place. It butchered not only the story but several characters motivations and personalities as well.
Daichi a hack!
Christian Morgan
> Ayame/Mine - OK Pairing
Honestly, that was the worst one for me. Ayame should have been left single so he could be your fabulous unmarried uncle to the other character's crotch dumplings.
The Best Pairing That Ended up Not Happening:
- Kazuma/Saki
Ritsu is shown in women's clothing when they talk about the curse being broken and Akito is only like 3-4 years younger then Shigure, I couldn't call that Loli Lusting over older man dick. And Akito fucks Kureno so she has her own agency in a sexual relationship and control over someone.
The only actual loli lusting after anyone is Kisa for Hiro but that wasn't lust it was just a sweet childish relationship.
It's why there should have been some kind of same-sex pairing. Like IDK pair off Haru with Ayame.
Also since Akito and God if she were to hug a cursed male would they transform?
Aaron Howard
One has a penis and one has a vagina. If you have a penis and you like the one with the penis you're gay.
Cameron Ramirez
Secondary sex characteristics matter too not just genitals and with traps you never even know what's exactly under there, that's the point of them.
Elijah Sanchez
i don't know if you western fags grew up with english dub or some shit but the original japanese voice actors are far superiour.
i love Nakamura Yuiichi but he really doesn't suite the tone of Sigure that okiyayu ryotaro did.
both new Kyo and Yuki are good enough but seki tomokazu is seki tomokazu. you can't beat his acting
Liam Hughes
The new Yuki is a dramatic improvement, OG UK sounded too girly, it's like the actress playing him wasn't even trying to make herself sound more masculine.
Elijah Baker
They are unpleasent people
But man this was a great episode
So female cats can have mixed litters from multiple male cats... that's not happening here is it?
Aiden Adams
and i read in the 5ch thread that after the Drama CD, when anime was set to be made, the director wanted other Kyo because he'd thought Seki was too much of an idol (Weiß Kreuz) but the writer insisted on Seki to be continued to be kyo,
Hunter Ward
>Also since Akito and God if she were to hug a cursed male would they transform?
You haven't read the manga in a while have you? As the God of the Zodiac Akito can embrace any male member freely she's seen multiple times hugging the male Zodiac.
Benjamin Lee
No character development
Julian Butler
She was shit at being a reverse trap anyways, amazing that the fandom was so shocked at her reveal, Haruhi Fujioka was more convincing.
Akito always acted like just a typical woman.
Wyatt Gray
Redpill me on why Dog is such a controversial character and what exactly is it that makes him so evil?
Cause so far he seems like just a really chill guy
Carson Reed
True chad
Wyatt Howard
Wasn't his motivation just to break the curse? How is that a bad thing?
Josiah Cox
He's evil by tumblr standards, not actually evil. He does fuck Akito's mom because he was a jealous manchild though, that's the worst thing he did.
Without him, Yuki, Kyo and Tohru wouldn't have a healthy house to live their high school years, since he's a pretty chill guardian overall.
Adrian Cox
Why does tumblr find him evil, just because of the motherfucking?
Evan Ross
First time watching but desu I'm surprised Kyo wins the bowl. Yuki seems to be pretty infatuated with Tohru.
Angel Wood
His methods are not very orthodox, but he never hurt anyone directly if anything (his waifu did though, a bunch of times).
He wanted to break the curse because of his obsession with his waifu, dog's loyalty is too stronk.
Owen Richardson
Yuki doesn't need somebody with a savior complex
Matthew Taylor
So he's literally just a waifufag?
Dylan Rogers
When's Torus emo friend episode?
Nathan Martin
Actually it was exactly what he needed, he just couldn't see her as anything else
Next episode
Chase Ross
Yeah.
Samuel Perez
What was his plan if Tohru actually left or hell, if Tohru never came into their lives at all?
Adam Gomez
That's soon. Time for the best episode.
Noah Davis
>Chad
>Is the only man in the series to get literally cucked
>By a complete beta male yet
>So pathetic he dumps the woman his own age who's eager and willing and tries to waifu-raise a fetus instead
More like a true incel
Levi Bell
The curse would break someday, Tohru just gave the Sohmas a push out of their comfort zone.
Andrew Bell
>Shigure/Mayu shipper
HAHAHAHA
Ryder Turner
We never see the cousins again, gramps will pop up again for a cameo a couple of times.
Yeah it has been a while since I last read the manga, thanks.
Lincoln Nguyen
N word. Reported
Zachary Reyes
Wait we're not allowed to say the N word anymore outside of /pol/? When did this happen?
Also I'm literally black
Jordan Perez
Oh man I remember reading this in the manga. Go gramps
Mason Cox
How old do you all think Akito is? She's in her early to mid twenties so literally like 3-5 years younger then Shigure, which is normal by that age.
Same. But the girl he ends up with is fine. she is prone to violent outbursts which makes me think he may have a complex due to Akito's behavior towards him, but Maki's never violent towards people. Her cousin and his girlfriend are top tier though. Like if you want just a taste of them pic related.
Robert Ross
Well it started out as a garbage reverse harem.
Sebastian Wood
His daughter is a cunt and his son is a pedo... but Gramps is so based.
Sebastian Bailey
>shipperfags BTFO
Seethe. This is the purest ship.
Hunter Ross
>People relishing on a story that came out almost 20 years ago
newfags...
Jose Gray
I reread the manga this week and it's funny how early the dynamic of the various relationships started really early on.
Yuki seeing Tohru as a mother figure is pretty obvious even by the second/third volume and Tohru naturally drifting toward Kyou is developed pretty well.
it's pretty consistent.
Tohru never cries or talk about her problems in front of Yuki for example, kisa's introduction is pretty telling as well with him thinking he and kisa are looking for something similar.
Jason Cooper
She's too young for him, that's all I know
Brandon Gomez
Kyo is also from her childhood. So the childhood friend wins this time around.
Kevin Nguyen
Hatori and Mayu are pretty happy and their kid is gorgeous.
Shippers are fucking delusional.
Sebastian Sanchez
From chapter 30 on its apparent that Kyo is winning.
Ethan Edwards
Yuki is more of a childhood friend, she never talked with Kyou as a kid
Adrian Morales
Kyo never meets Tohru when they're children
Caleb Barnes
How was he cucked? I completely forget the story. Was it some memory loss shit?
Julian Lee
Akito slept with rooster
Blake Lopez
What the fuck dude
Colton Robinson
The plot is just so convoluted
Jackson Fisher
Wen Snek?
Nathan Clark
>says shipperfag is delusional when Akito and Shigure are literally shippingfaggotry: The Ship
Just because it’s canon doesn’t mean it’s good. Compared to Kyo/Tohru or Haru/Rin their relationship didn’t get any development or help develop them as individuals, it was literally put in there just for shipping bait.
Gavin Stewart
Their sense of distance is really telling even early on
It's hard to believe people were shiiping yuki and tohru in the later volumes before the bomb dropped
Elijah Clark
Jesus Christ, this was a 10/10 episode. I enjoyed it so much that had to rewatch the whole thing again.
Something to note is that I don't remember any of these scene from the original anime. I really loved this episode.
Nicholas Allen
The beach arc is going to be so good animated
Benjamin Martinez
Daga otoko da
Owen Moore
They should have both ended up alone
Gavin James
>taking your child bride wedding dress shopping
Did nobody care in the 80s?
Leo Jackson
The part where Yuki and Kyo are watching from the outside wasn't from the manga. That's the kind of anime additions I like. Originally they just sort of pop up in there
Connor Stewart
>So pathetic he dumps the woman his own age who's eager and willing
She only started dating him because she was feeling lonely and Shigure is one of Hatori's best friends.
She broke up with him herself and Shigure pushed her for the guy she truly loved, so everyone won.
Levi Lee
It's worse than things like that. She obsessively connects everything right to the end
Jaxon Ward
It’s Japan a country based on traditional values where women over 25 are considered Christmas Cakes
This is what family values looks like to them because they’re not libcucked like the West
Also notice how they’re homogenous society and none of their media shoves forced “diversity” down everyone’s throat like Western media does.
A stronk independent 30 something black single mother taking a poor chump for a ride is something only valued in Western libtard media
Alexander Walker
This chapter is extremely telling and it was only in volume 8
Tohru tries to talk to Yuki about what is troubling her but stop
Mason Harris
and then proceeds to have a cute heart to heart with Kyou instead
I remember people complaining it came out of nowhere but the foreshadowing is really impressive on a reread
Andrew Phillips
So why did he even start dating her to begin with if he never intended to fuck her?
Lucas Myers
Yet japan makes more progressive and inclusive things than most murrikan media.
Also, get the fuck out /pol/
Aiden Peterson
It's easier to pick up on little things knowing she ends up with Cat.
Daniel Lewis
i mean i expected a kyou ending since volume 1. Yuki is just such an archetypal Guy B.
Caleb Hernandez
Most of the things from the end series were foreshadowed before, sadly most people don't bother to reread it and end up shitting the threads with fanwank.
Jacob King
This is a /pol/ series though
Parker Nguyen
I'm a little sad they updated the the ugly wardrobe.
Asher Allen
To pass time, literally. He never ever bothered to kiss/fuck her, they probably just spent time talking or fooling together with the rest of the group (aka Ayame, Hatori and Kana)
Brandon Perry
>Yet japan makes more progressive and inclusive things than most murrikan media.
Not really, there's very little POC featured in anime and manga.
Sure Japan has yaoi and yuri but both of those are treated as just fetishes for straight men and women to consume rather than a civil rights issue.
So far the only really progressive anime I've seen come out of Japan as been that new Carole and Tuesday but that's literally it.
Noah James
>Woman literally throws herself at him
>Doesn't take the opportunity
kek, he really is a beta cuck!
What guy wouldn't fuck a ready and willing woman?
Luis Nelson
There's literally a manga series for everything; disabled, mute, deaf, autism, POC, trans, etc etc. I am not mentioning anime for degenerage otaku like their oreimo shit. Way better than american comics/series with their forced diversity by the same 10 twats in the entire industry.
Joshua Adams
>POC manga
Never heard of or seen one.
Blacks aren’t favored too kindly over there
Nicholas Miller
I am not going to spoonfeed newfags from /pol/ but here's an example
Gabriel Hernandez
She was too old for him, he’s into young, fresh meat
Blake Bennett
>Meet "God"
>"God" is abusive, has a traumatic complex about gender, and is obsessed with imprisoning the rebellious member of the family
Stealth fedora tipping anti-theism in this one
Lincoln Garcia
It's not a "progressive" thing. Japanese society is extremely homogeneous so as a result they don't have this existential anxiety over identity politics the way Americans do, with their multi-ethnic immigrant society. This is sort of liberating for Japanese artists, they can make stories and visual works about gays or other races and not have all this cultural baggage and guilt they feel obligated to tote along and which makes any American venture into these topics excruciatingly tedious and preachy.
Of course, Japan has its own bugbears and taboos, mostly related to the second World War. Notice the severe dearth of anime and manga that deal with Imperial Japan's wartime activities? Even if they do use the setting they're usually circumspect about the actual war. The only manga I've really read that doesn't skirt around things and deals directly with the Imperial Army was Onward Towards Our Noble Deaths which is basically babby's first literary manga.
Mason Parker
What is with Japan and their complete hateboner for religion?
This is a common plot in JRPGs as well
Noah Foster
In the original anime he makes several jokes that are probably not really jokes about wanting to fuck teenagers
Lincoln Diaz
Afro Samurai, Bobobobobo (or whatever it's called), etc. want a word.
There's also a manga about a black weeaboo who lives in Japan and has to deal with racism from his Japanese friends but I can't for the life of me remember what it's called.
Jacob Evans
I’ve mostly seen only his manga self get hate though and he’s not a pedo there
Angel Wood
In Japan people ask gods for favors but they don't have the same kind of automatically revered status as "God" in Judeo-Christian, Islamic, and Hindu cultures. Praying to kami is seen as more like a business transaction, so Japanese culture can be much edgier about divinities without consequence.
Grayson Howard
What things were foreshadowed other than Cat winning?
Bentley Murphy
It's more that Christianity is till pretty exotic to them, and when it first arrived they probably found the idea of a single omnipotent god that controls everything to be presumptuous. Japan is the land of 8 million kami, there's gods in every rock and stream, in household objects, some of them are powerful, fearsome deities, but they don't demand exclusive worship and the renouncement of all other gods. The way the priests described him (and remember these were Catholic priests from the 16th century) probably made him sound like a petty, insecure tyrant, and that image has stuck in the Japanese consciousness for centuries.
Gavin Lee
What a greasy fuck. Somebody needs to punch him.
Michael James
Gods are generally due respect in Japan, but it's a far step down from total, unconditional reverence and devotion that Christianity expects. Early Christian missionaries actually had a hard time getting genuine conversions out of the Japanese. They'd seemingly "convert" an entire province only to find out their congregation was still visiting Shinto shrines to pray to kami or get charms or going to Buddhist temples for funerals and weddings. It baffled them because they didn't understand the Japanese mindset toward gods, where the Christian god was just one more god among the millions already in Japan. They weren't being hypocrites, they didn't see it as "tricking" the priests, they genuinely were honoring God the best way they knew how. It just wasn't the way priests understood worship.
Ethan Ortiz
>The cap
>Tohru's discomfort when the subject is her father
>Yuki's inability to see Tohru in a romantic light (he even tries)
>Kyo's weird reactions whenever Kyoko was mentioned
>Shigure's obsession with Akito
>Akito's gender (some things are easier to pick up if you're japanese)
>Kakeru's awkwardness around Tohru
On the top of my head these come to mind
Carter Perry
>Almost all the people outside of the main cast and main secondary cast are genuine scumbags
I forgot how 90s/early 2000s this felt.
Christopher Campbell
It's kinda refreshing. Lots of shows like this these days seem to be built around feel good nice ensemble casts with only one real bad apple or at most a small group that are obvious outliers.
Nathan Brown
In taking on a male role, Akito behaves as a woman abused by male family and authority figures would expect men to act.
In doing so, Akito takes on the role of a gothic villain comparable to Walpole's Manfred. In this genre archetype, the male villain inverts the male gaze by representing an omnipotent, and violently predatory, male presence, seen through the eyes of an entrapped victim, typically female and with a male savior.
In this case, the genders are inverted. Kyo takes on the role of a male counterpart to the gothic heroine, threatened with lifelong entrapment by Akito, who has taken on an emotionally unstable, archetypically male role, as a result of past traumatic abuse. In thiss, Tohru represents a female counterpart to the "knight in shining armor" archetype found in such a genre, who must liberate and confront the heroine-victim from the villain's clutches. As with the archetypal knight in shining armor hero, Tohru remains something of a cipher, primarily a device to establish a promise of liberation by a more benevolent and unassuming presence while the gothic heroine (Kyo) is left to explore their own troubled thoughts under the shadow of the villain's presence, here established as masculine although projected by a female character.
We can thus conclude that Fruits Basket maintains the basic plot structure of the gothic novel, consciously noting the genre's conception of a predatory, toxic masculinity as an overarching presence - an archetype consciously created by Akito, a character who imitates her own conceptions of masculinity informed by psychological trauma.
Gavin Lee
>Shigure’s obsession with Akito
No that only surfaced once her gender was revealed.
Noah Mitchell
Because Takaya wanted to hashtag-NoHomo the series
Grayson Fisher
Not really. By all accounts Christianity grew fairly rapidly as the missionaries actually adopted both Japanese methods of preaching and a number of their customs. It was cracked down however later on due to a Christian revolt and Christianity being seen as a threat by e.g. Tokugawa Ieyasu to ther power. Notably here only the very basics of Christianity (e.g. creation and crucifixion and such) had been taught due to how many tried to convert- not enough priests.
"Hidden Christians" who survived the persecutions then tended to syncretize their beliefs with Shinto and Buddhist beliefs - this influence likely plays a role in how many animes nuns for instance are sometimes basically just rebranded Mikos and how Catholic/Christian priests are more or less just Shinto priests that wear a cross- the syncretism of these are probably more known than the fire and brimstone, honestly.
The reference to Akito being god is arguably a mistranslation meant to make the story more understandable to Westerners- the figure being referred to is the one who called the banquet in the actual Zodiac story: the Jade Emperor, who was the traditional Chinese "first god"- not meaning sole god or omnipotent god however.
I suspect the Christianity thing does play a certain role however: the Chinese belief system had the Jade Emperor play a key role in creation. The Japanese author, not knowing much about Christianity, therefore likely identified the figure of Jade Emperor with our God due to that. I guess in a way its similar to how Romans understood foreign gods as different names for their own.
Julian Moore
>Akito behaves as a woman abused by male family and authority figures would expect men to act.
She was abused by a woman though, her own mother her father didn't want to raise her as a boy and just went along with it so that she wouldn't get aborted
>Akito
>Villain
No it was actually Ren all along, she made a bet with Akito that the Zodiac will eventually betray her and if they do she'd have to bow and give up the Sohma to her, Akito was acting the way she did out of desperation over being thrown out.
Incidentally, Ren's true villain reveal coincides with Akito's gender reveal, they were meant to be the two big plot twists of the series as Takaya took a nu-Disney approach and made Akito a red herring villain in the beginning while Ren was the true "twist villain."
Alexander Morales
>Akito's gender (some things are easier to pick up if you're japanese)
Like what?
Jordan Barnes
Try actually reading the series, lemme spoon feed you for starters on this subject:
Book 3
Blake Evans
What a great grandpa.
Eli Jones
>Abandoning the person you have legal guardianship of and telling her to just do shit on her own with no resources
Yeah no he's a piece of it all right
Ryan Jones
>"MUH DREAM!"
So cringe and forced that even I remember it, here you are user
David Cruz
>Fruits Basket
There it is, the true, the original, the classic that Kamisama Kiss ripped off
Matthew Thomas
>Yuki's inability to see Tohru in a romantic light (he even tries)
Wait he doesnt see her romantically granted this is my first time with the series but it seems romantic. If that's not the case I'm sure it'll become clearer later.
Zachary Sullivan
Shigure and Hatori used very gender neutral pronouns while talking about her.
Some other small noticeable things:
-Compared to other male characters Akito had noticeable lashes, big nails etc. -In book 13 or 14 (I don't remember very clearly) Tohru is almost caught by Ren at the Sohma garden and shits herself because she thought it was Akito (voiced sounded just like hers) but turns out it a "random" lady (who happens to be Akito's mother)
Cooper Myers
No, Christianity is kept at bay by the gov with propaganda and other nations.
The Tokugawa shogunate killed Christians because they feared their loyalty to Jesus and God while the firebombing and nukes in ww2 targeted the most populace pro Christian places.
Luis Parker
That fade in to the ED every episode with the piano gets me every time. What a comfy ED.
Cameron Stewart
There is bait to feed readers, but once you're presented to people who actually have romantic interest towards Tohru it's easy to notice how the Yuki/Tohru dynamic is not pointing to that.
Colton Bailey
I like the first adaption's take on this episode, should have focused more on how lonely she felt without them and highlight how different their relationship would have become. The scene with the weird uncle was nice, always felt like he was a perv who would have snuck into tohru's room at night to lick the sweat off her in her sleep.
>If that's not the case I'm sure it'll become clearer later.
Stop now while you're ahead
Hunter Sanders
>Stop now while you're ahead
So it doesnt become clear? Well I now know that its not romantic so I wont be mistaking it for such.
John Young
Every shoujo since 2005 has ripped it off Tohru's dtf emotional-slut personality.
Kevin Parker
It doesn't just become clear he straight up says he sees her like a mom which killed my boner for the ship, don't be like me and steer clear
Thomas Hill
I guess you're focusing on the emotional slut part, but really I was surprised when I branched out to other shoujo just how much more sexual they usually are. Fruits basket eventually has its share of sexual situations, but they're a lot less common and a lot more in the background of the story that some others I've seen.
Xavier Brooks
There's usually not much penetration but its sure as hell more satisfying than a shounen romcom that has 0. I like it when couples behave like people with normal sex drives not bottlenecked by sperging.
Logan Evans
Shonen romances tend to be comedies since they're aimed at boys who don't really take relationships seriously.
Christopher Kelly
Also they're written by people who have most certainly never been in a relationship.
Adam Scott
Ohhh okay. Gotcha. I'm still surprised it goes that way but i like Kyo and Yuki. Seems like overall people didn't like that development?
Connor Cooper
Not really, Kyo/Tohru is pretty well established and liked. The ones who still sperg about non canon ships are stuck in 2004 or something.
Brandon King
Ah okay good to know. I do prefer the Kyo and Tohru pairing so good to know it goes that way. Glad Yuki finds some happiness as well.
Anthony Campbell
You find out Yuki's love for Tohru was never romantic. What kind of love it is, well, you'll have to watch and find out.
Tyler Sanders
What are these things?
Ive seen them a lot but never figured it out.
Jordan Lopez
Not always. Take Penguin Brothers for example.
Gabriel Walker
face bidet
Brayden Gutierrez
Stop fooling with user. Its a pipe with a dispositive that heats/cool the fresh water.
Liam Hall
Isn't it an electric water heater
Charles Hughes
I want a daughter like Tohru so badly, but I fear what she may become if she attends public schooling in a diverse population.
Charles Richardson
She'll become a slut Stacy or a bullied to death type of girl in private schools. Pick your american only poison.
Juan Perry
I wouldn't want a daughter like Tohru, though. Tohru would get bullied to hell in public schools; she was lucky to find a group of friends to look out for her, but that rarely happens.
Jaxson Evans
Whoa whoa, the bird guy was a girl? That's hot.
Charles Phillips
Standard Japanese honmae and tatemae.
Elijah Hughes
>Bird
Levi Jones
>old hag
>cute
Joseph Thompson
Haven't read this shit in years, blow me.
Luke King
No, the optimum is incest with your fellow cursed cousin of the opposition gender, as depicted by four (and a half) ships in the manga.
Jace Hill
>Kakeru/His gf
Was it just the bad Translation, or why did it seem totally deranged that Kakeru hated Tohru and also blamed her mother for the lethal accident? Kyoko was literally just standing at a traffic light.
Colton Torres
Angel Richardson
>daughter like Tohru
Silly, Kyoko. Tohru is pure waifu material.
Joshua Russell
What is an emotional-slut?
Lucas Rogers
I still don't know how Mikan didn't have people falling in love with her left and right.
Brayden Sanchez
So should a boomer like myself watch this re-make?
Does it have anything that beats "What comes after the snow melt" ?
Camden Torres
I'm a literal Boomer (I'm 60, was 39 when the manga started) and love this remake.
Jonathan Howard
tfw no delinquent mommy gf
Connor Roberts
Alrright I'll take a look then. I still have the preview music from the original anime (think the track was called Fruits Basket in Waltz) downloaded and its on my phone after all this years.
Henry Garcia
>I'm 60
Do you enjoy appeasing your inner 12 year old girl with this series?
Carson Richardson
The manga you are thinking of is Peepo-chu, it was written by an Argentinian.
Watching this new adaptation of Fruits basket after years after having read the manga, it makes me really see how the first anime adaptation wasn't really that good, the original anime didn't balance the comedy and drama as effectively.
I also remember that those scenes with the hat weren't in the original anime.
I liked how this episode did the dual perspective thing.
Jesus christ almighty Tohru is gorgeous .
Juan Richardson
Old of curiosity, why are you on Yea Forums's anime board?
Matthew Harris
Serenade and For fruits basket still make me cry. RIP Ritsuko Okazaki
Aaron Evans
Out* wew
Jayden Torres
If you really watched the original anime back in the days, how do you even remember this shit. Did you re-watch
I remember like 4 scenes of the original anime
Justin Garcia
Its worth noting that
Thatanimesnob/rorico/roriconfan
You know, he's that Greek guy who does the youtube rants and hates Urobuchi is in his mid 60s.
Xavier Perry
It's active, and I'm retired and bored. I've been active in online anime communities since 1981, where I discovered Usenet in college.
Jaxon Bell
>Ritsuko Okazaki
That name seemed really familiar even though I never watched the original anime
>sang the princess tutu OP
dammit, she's died? Aw.
Landon Reyes
Good to see some older people around then, I though I was getting on in this hobby given that I'm 35.
Given your age, how does that reflect on your general taste?
Thomas Jones
>ToriMayu child is the ugliest and has mother’s personality
Proof that this ship shouldn’t have happened.
Isaiah Jackson
For fruits basket was my favorite, I even had a midi version of it for my ringtone.
William Wright
Are you enjoy Fruits Basket? Have heard of it before?
Kevin Anderson
are you enjoying*
Sorry I didn't pay attention to your previous reply to the other user, glad you seem to like the series. Have you read the manga?
Nicholas Edwards
Behead those who insult Tohru!
Juan Peterson
Shit taste can't be cured.
Kinu acts noble and calming like Hatori, except with Mayu's sass.
Wyatt Torres
You forgot about Ritsu/Shigure's editor
Just imagine how neurotic that kid is going to be
Ryan Scott
I really like Sora-iro which I think didn't actually play in the anime but was included in the disk. The new anime ED sounds nice but if you understand any Japanese it's pretty clear it doesn't have much meaning to it other than repeating cliche phrases, while Ritsuko's songs for furuba all had the same "hang it there" theme that always keep me coming back to them when I'm feeling down.
David Young
No, he was supposed to come off as deranged in that scene. His girlfriend lost her shit on him when he told her what he did and he wasn't able to understand why since his upbringing had completely broken him emotionally.
Thomas Bell
>its your fault for not being born a few years earlier
Aiden Gonzalez
Fun curiosity:
The "let's stay together itsumo(aka forever)" part could refer to the Sohma bind which is basically a curse for everyone. The Juunishi don't need to stay together forever anymore, they need their own lifes.
Aaron Jenkins
>his
trap or typo?
Tyler Wilson
Everybody uses gender neutral when referring to Akito. Akito mannerisms are feminine when she is not aware of it. She also stopped growing and Yuki and Kyo quickly outgrown her
Eli Ramirez
Lincoln Roberts
Katsuya just had some fantastic taste.
Zachary Ross
Shit son now I'm in some kind of FBI list
Hudson Turner
Former
Chase Martinez
>/pol/baiting
>Shadilay!
Not everything has to be about your agenda
Joseph Davis
SUCH an amazing manga. Did he ever finish it after Prison School?
Jaxson Martinez
user, I...
Julian Morgan
>Tohru's discomfort when the subject is her father
Elaborate please
Luke Miller
This is a genuine and in-depth analysis. It's nice to read well thought out posts on Yea Forums from time to time instead of just shitposting.
Parker Murphy
Well, just have a daughter and make sure you abandon her for months after her father dies
Nathan Gomez
Kayden Foster
For Fruits Basket is perfect. I really hope they use it as an insert song in the New Year's episode
Nathan Cook
>old
The Freudian slip!
Easton Sullivan
She gets over it as the series goes, but she once saw him as "villain" who wanted to take mother with him (will be elaborated better later on too), not to mention 99% of his family fucking hated Kyoko and treated her like dirt, once he died they thought she commited adultery because Tohru "didn't look like him" so she started imitating some of his mannerisms to make herself feel less insecure (and to comfort her mom)
Brayden Martin
Everybody thought she was a bastard, so Tohru tried to act like him a little although she secretly resents her father for almost taking her mother away from her.
Gabriel Diaz
I see! Thanks for explaining.
James Baker
It felt like the camera focused on this girl a lot. But her name isn't Souma so I doubt she's going to show up again.
Caleb Cruz
They probably wanted the viewers to pay attention behind her. You can see Kyo and Yuki there even before the POV shift.
Christopher Anderson
>didn't notice it
I blame them for making her face to cute
Justin Collins
too*
Wyatt Young
It's honne, user.
Jordan Wilson
Imagine this Tohru voice by Horie Yui
Juan Bell
shes so cute, that scene made me sad and angry because I really like her
Luis Hughes
I'm expecting it turns out way better than both versions at the very end of the last season.
John Morgan
I wish I had dog's nose to enjoy Tohru's invisible scents all day
Leo Morris
The manga version wrapped things too quickly with Yuki and Kyo coming out of nowhere with no explanation on how they stole the adress from Shigure. The 2001 version spent 10 minutes of Shigure making fun of the guys because they didn't stop Tohru (and tons of "comedy" with him sniffing her towel, what the heck) and once more no explanation on how Kyo and Yuki got Tohru's address.
This episode was perfect because the characters remained true to their original selves and connected the missing dots from the manga.
Andrew Robinson
new toru's voice really doesn't suit the chracter.
Horie Yui's Toru sounds almost too pure to a slight mental retardation which is perfect
new Toru sounds like she knows her stuff and is just kind and nice.
that is not enough. toru needs to sound a little bit challenged. that innocence
Luke Sullivan
How weird is it that Tohru fell in love with Kyou because he resembles her mom?
Elijah Butler
I didn't like Horie because she made no effort in trying to sound different from other characters she voiced back then. I'm not happy at all with Iwami's high pitched voice either in this remake, but she makes Tohru's sweetness sounds natural.
William Kelly
Did anyone solely watch the 2001 anime dubbed (and preferred it) as a young person but can't watch this one dubbed (despite the most important characters having the same voice actors)? I tried watching the first episode in english but it was way too weird and unfitting.
Connor Wood
VERY.
Andrew Jones
>new Toru sounds like she knows her stuff and is just kind and nice.
Well that's exactly what Tohru is.
She's been through a lot of shit. She lived in a TENT.
Grayson Nelson
>I tried watching [...] in english but it was way too weird and unfitting.
That's every single anime, not only FB.
Angel Jackson
yeah I agree but I was expecting to be hit with nostalgia and not cringe.
Joshua Baker
Where are water roosters at ?
Carson Phillips
Did Horie retire already? Have not heard about her in a long while.
John Nelson
Ojii-san is my husbando
Brandon Perry
hate to break it to you but fire rats are optimal
Bentley Morgan
oh god oh fuck
Wyatt Clark
Fight me, rat-boy
Dominic Harris
you speak pretty confidentially for someone who came in 10th place during the race
Blake Gray
Yuki was better and more heroic in that scene that Kyo ever was.
Daniel Mitchell
That's a lie and you know it!
Josiah Jones
>cucked by a cock
Seriously user, you had one job
Jaxson Roberts
>tfw I was enjoying the shit out of Fruits Basket as a teen until it got into the second half with all the edginess and none of the charm
>tfw I'm probably repeating the experience as soon as the second season starts
Nolan Lewis
This episode was great, the additional scenes it had that weren't in the manga/original anime really helped bring across the entire feeling of the episode.
Jordan Russell
I feel like you might appreciate the drama more now, as an experience connoisseur of Yea Forums media, considering how it's not nearly as infuriating as the base level of drama in most anime series, much less shoujo specifically.
Julian Hughes
>the anime won't become ass ugly looking after a certain point like the manga eventually did
I'd take the early noodle/big eyed shoujo looking designs over what the mangaka's art evolved to
Ayden Hernandez
Yeah but all the little things the first half has is completely gone when we go beyond volume 12 or so.
I remember the shoujo drama was mixed with humor and loveable character moments, only to devolve into abuse stories.
But I really want to see Yuki getting into the student council so badly (was it the student council or a club? can't remember)
Juan Jackson
it'd probably maintain the level of quality that this already has
they changed the designs to reflect the late art of the manga, but not shitty
Thomas King
thank god for that
Blake Smith
>Ritsuko's songs for furuba all had the same "hang it there" theme that always keep me coming back to them when I'm feeling down.
There were always something special in her songs that make me also come back. That hum at the start of For Fruits Basket gives me goosebumps and calms my soul at the same time.
Man, I really wish Ritsuko Okazaki was still alive and making songs. I miss her so badly.
Wyatt Reyes
those are the most early 00s pants ever
Joseph Thompson
wow.. i never read manga but what even is that?
Alexander Baker
I pretty sure the mangaka broke the wrist of her drawing hand partway through and it fucked everything up
Christopher Turner
Mangaka had a hand surgery during the second half of the run.
But the art was never really any good to be honest.
Lincoln Murphy
she also never knew anything about anatomy and proportions
Aaron Richardson
that's true but at least the characters looked somewhat attractive early on. they became all wide/fat looking and the guys got harder to tell apart from what I remember
James King
>was it the student council or a club?
It was the Student Council. And I was just about to bring up the comedy in that group in relation to that. I recently reread the manga, though honestly I couldn't tell you much about it specifically. I'm not good at retaining my emotional memories about things. I didn't find the shift terribly jarring, though. I enjoyed the whole thing throughout.
It's not my favorite manga, probably not even my favorite shoujo. But I do appreciate it a lot for what it does, and doesn't, do.
Cameron Torres
Why would felines get TWO representatives in the zodiac, anyway? Greedy cats.
Camden Wood
It'll probably start early so they can fit the monster into the first season
Michael Fisher
>tfw no black crop top and ugly cargos
Maybe it's for the best. The way they were dressed is so dated
Jeremiah Young
Fuck off 3DPD.
>...
I think the "fag" part might have been projection, user.
Luis Powell
I think you learned how to read in the meantime, user.
Angel Robinson
FUCKING BASED GRAMPA
SLAP THAT FAGGOT