Will he ever find happiness?

Will he ever find happiness?

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Faggots don't deserve happiness

Yes with that cute guy from the baseball team, what was his name?

Ao no way flag.

Yes as my sex slave.

You mean Einosuke?

I don't know this manga but he has a face that screams homosexual and I was right.

That’s it, Einochad is going to protect his smile.

You mean Ao no fag. Is not like the author did it on purpose.

He'll end up like the guy he look exactly like from Sakamichi no Apollon and be cucked so hard he becomes a catholic priest.

You mean if he becomes a catholic priest his path would be full of shotas, but Mita isn’t that type of degenerate.

Why is this allowed. The next chapter better have more pages at the very least fucking a

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I just want a dj with Touma fucking Tai, I won’t even ask for them to be canon, I just want fanservice.

There's some stuff on pixiv but you'll probably have to hold out for an anime for the chance for any decent doujin to get made.

Once Taichi embraces his bi-ness.

That would be the happening of the century.

For real. I do think it's possible Taichi will really question what he feels for Touma and find that on some level find that he's attracted to him.

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Actually I can see Fuutaba liking the idea of Taichi get penetrated by Touma.

Futuba is not a fujo

You can't possibly be serious? He is a good boy and he does deserve happiness, but if you're a fag in shonen AND don't act like an effete, horny tranny with lipstic all over your face AND don't get written out of the story promptly AND you're a part of a main cast, constantly being the sore on the eye of editors and literal faggots like this one , then there is only one fate you're destined to.
Such naivety. Do you people ever learn?

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Touma blew it on his own. He could have already got some midget dick if he said no homo when confessing.

Based and redpilled

Why not?

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I want Touma to force himself onto Taichi. Taichi, being meek and guilt ridden, probably wouldn't fight back and instead lay still, letting Touma have his way with him.

Isn't this what they call "rape"?

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Sure he will. But he will also suffer a bunch more before that happens.

It's not rape if his hips are moving on their own.

>sure he will
Yeah. I'm sure he'll find happiness. In death.

I would really like it if it turned out he is attracted to him and knew it all along.

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Me too. I doubt it's as simple as the people who are convinced Taichi is straight think it is.
Will there be a happy gay ending? Probably not. Is Taichi not attracted to Touma in the slightest? I really doubt that.

He shouldn't have stopped the hand holding he had Taichi by the balls

even fags like you deserve to be happy user

The setup's even there but the author seems to prefer shitty moralfagging so I doubt it will be that nuanced.

This

What

Just go on grindr or done shit, Touma

Taichi should kiss him to prove friends can kiss.

No what Touma needs is a brazilian dancer.

Yeah, it'd be great. Sad it won't ever happen though.

>all chapters are now free
>except in leaf land

thanks shueisha

What do you mean, what?

I wonder if once Taichi gets over his shock/confusion of Touma being in love with him, he'll feel less of this gap between them due to their 'class'.

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I doubt it.

Touma is too good for Taichi anyway. Hopefully, he can get over him and move on.

I feel like I've read variations of this statement about 30 separate times by now.

I think user doesn't understand what you mean by moralfagging.
You're talking about the way the resident attack lesbian is author insert bitching about the people who spread rumors right? Yeah that annoyed me too. People talk, that's what they do.

How would you guys interpret this? The paralleling was definitely done on purpose. I feel like it's more evidence that Taichi's feelings for Touma are more nuanced than "not gay not happening".

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It's not out of character for Masumi to do that, though. She is preachy and condescending because she's introspective and probably takes a detached look to most her relationships due to her wanting to fit into society e.g. dating guys she's not into. From her talk with Akiko you can tell she thinks about things a lot by herself and that makes her more vindictive and more susceptible to catastrophizing.

I do agree the author probably agrees with Masumi at least mostly but I didn't feel like the author suddenly replaced Masumi in the story to spout morals. It's what Masumi thinks and it aligns with previous characterization.

Well the obvious parallel is the difference in emotional support network: Taichi has Futaba now.

The main thing when it comes to Taichi's feelings towards Touma is that he idolizes Touma and sees him as above him: That might be the obstacle for him admitting to himself that's he's attracted to Touma if that indeed is the case, which I feel is possible but due to meta reasons unlikely. Touma's confession turning Taichi's world upside down gives me the feeling that this will break the pedestal Taichi has put Touma on and they'll finally be able to converse on the same terms. Whether that means building a stronger friendship, breaking it off or something else I can't say.

Yeah, and that's a really good example. Another is Kensuke. Can't just have Mami and Touma dealing with sexism and heterosexism as an omnipresent unspoken cultural paradigm like in real life, you have to wrap up your disliked sentiments in a single character who exists just to be unlikable and annoying and verbally sum up the shit you hate in catchy one liners, and then literally beat him up to make sure the reader backs the winner (you) even though in context of the plot your character has no real reason to do so.

Basically the handling of social issues feels pretty 100-level and at least in western media (which this manga reminds me of) that tends to preclude any acknowledgement of non-GayTM variants of non-heterosexuality at anything more than a token level or with real respect.

I don't have such a harsh opinion on Kensuke. Sure he was one dimensional lately but it was necessary so shit would blow up in the worst possible way. The very fact that he invited Taichi to his house says he's more than that. Or at least I hope whatever he's gonna tell Taichi will confirm that hunch I have.

I think that would be too easy of an ending. I want touma to find happiness but it would be too easy a conclusion for Taichi to suddenly return his feelings.

Also that would leave Futaba out in the cold. She may not be very interesting, but she doesn't deserve to get dumped like that

In regards to Kensuke I agree with
Kaito has gone out of their way to make characters that aren't one note, throwaway characters. Everybody thought Mami was your typical bitchy popular girl trying to get in the way but Kaito subverted that. I doubt they're just going to depict Kensuke without undergoing some kind of growth after everything's that happened.

>Taichi to suddenly return his feelings
That's the point though, there wouldn't be a sudden change in Taichi's feelings in that scenario.

I don't think the readers are supposed to think Touma completely was in the right for beating Kensuke up. We're supposed to think Kensuke's a jerk for homophobia and courting Mami after having been clearly rejected several times, sure, but I definitely didn't feel like the fight was cathartic. I agree with that we'll probably get a more sympathetic look at him in coming chapters.

Your main point about non-gay sexual minorities not getting acknowledgement in this manga might turn out true but I don't get that feeling.

As a tangent, honestly, I'd be disappointed if we don't get anything dealing with Futaba's identity. She hates herself, feels better now that she's dating Taichi but she still doesn't like that she's small, clumsy and unassertive. Does her role model being Touma mean she has gender dysphoria? Touma called attention to the fact that her role model is male and not female. The chances she turns out to be trans and transitions are lower than the chances of Yea Forumsnons not being mad I brought trans people into this but I still want her to get the spotlight at some point.

I honestly feel like the most likely ending is ultimately nobody ending up together. Taichi and Futaba will most likely go to different colleges, Taichi and Touma aren't going to happen and there's been practically no development between Masumi and Futaba.

That would make her a lot more interesting. She's become kind of stagnant since she got together with Taichi sans the whole college dilemma. I only feel it's unlikely because outside of that instance she hasn't shown any signs of disliking being a girl or trying to be masculine.

I don't think anyone is gonna be trans you donut. More like they want the character traits the other has

>as a tangent, honestly, I'd be disappointed if we don't get anything dealing with Futaba's identity
I wouldn't be. The less I see her the better.

>Does her role model being Touma mean she has gender dysphoria?
You're going too far. Touma is fucking amazing, there is no wonder she wants to be like him.

I know that's probably the case but I get the feeling from chapter 32 that there's something about Futaba's low self-esteem that has to do with gender whether it's gender dysphoria (I know, I know) or gendered expectations etc.

I'd put in the top two panels of ch 32 pg 25 where Mami is saying 'when a girl says "I wish I was a guy, you don't assume it's because she has a crush on a girl, or anything love-related at all..." here but I can't because my IP range is blocked from uploading files. Futaba is the focus in these panels.

I mainly get an off feeling from ch 32 where Mami brings up how when girls say they wish they were guys no one assumes it's because they like girls and the panels focus on Futaba. Also that was just speculating, of course you can have a role model that's a different gender.

I guess 4channel didn't swallow my first reply into the abyss after all.

>I don't think the readers are supposed to think Touma completely was in the right for beating Kensuke up. We're supposed to think Kensuke's a jerk for homophobia and courting Mami after having been clearly rejected several times, sure, but I definitely didn't feel like the fight was cathartic. I agree with that we'll probably get a more sympathetic look at him in coming chapters.
You have a point. I'm not familiar with the mangaka so I could be confusing western reader reactions for authorial intent.

>As a tangent, honestly, I'd be disappointed if we don't get anything dealing with Futaba's identity. She hates herself, feels better now that she's dating Taichi but she still doesn't like that she's small, clumsy and unassertive. Does her role model being Touma mean she has gender dysphoria? Touma called attention to the fact that her role model is male and not female. The chances she turns out to be trans and transitions are lower than the chances of Yea Forumsnons not being mad I brought trans people into this but I still want her to get the spotlight at some point.
I wouldn't be mad because Futaba being small, cute, and timid and the hypothetical dysphoria being ftm would be less cliche and go against the stereotypical "representation" that the worst kinds of readers want, but that makes it less clear to me if it's really about gender or if it's wanting the power males have which is also a pretty common secret fantasy.

To me it also hits hard in Taichi’s insecurities. Touma, the amazing baseball chad, is in love with him but why? Because what Tai’s sees as a set of weakness for himself? Also, while is not totally flattering it is alluring to have someone you admire so much to like you but at the same time it makes you questioning why he likes you. So, I think Tai is flattered and dumbfounded by Touma’s feelings, and that shouldn't make him gay or bi. But sadly in these days is somehow mandatory to label yourself with as many of the gender/orientations spectrum as a fashion, so people would probably claim Tai is already gay for holding hands with Touma.

>due to meta reasons unlikely
Is a "gay for you" protagonist that much more controversial when there's already a gay deuteragonist? Or are you talking about other meta reasons like the author only having written het stuff before?

I feel like the main character reciprocating a male friend's feelings of attraction in non-BL manga is so rare that even for a manga like this it might a step too far. Most relationships like this are ones where the gay one is single-mindedly devoted to the MC and the MC is oblivious. After the cat's out of the bag the MC graciously "forgives" those feelings and there might a fanservicy kiss on the cheek or something before they separate, probably because the gay one dies. Ao no Flag is out of the norm and Touma and Taichi's relationship isn't like that, but I still don't see it happening. It's not that I think there would be actual controversy if it did, I just feel like the manga doesn't want to test its luck. I'm not at all familiars with KAITO's other work, mind.

Then here you go, user.
She did start working out and drinking milk to be more similar to him so it seems she wants to have a body more like his, plus the first thing we saw her do to change herself was to get a boyish haircut, which she mentioned she liked despite learning it was supposedly the opposite of what Touma liked. Who knows, maybe the topic will get developed further.

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Yeah Taichi's low self-esteem really clouds his perceptions of Touma and himself. It feels like with everything out in the open now they can connect in a way they've never been able to. Touma is lower on the caste than Taichi now his reputation at school is absolutely fucked.

I actually felt like this was Futaba connecting that convo with the one she had with Touma when he wished he was her.

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>touma is lower on the caste than Taichi now his reputation at school is absolutely fucked
Is it really? People are just gossiping because he's not at school but as soon as he comes back I don't see people behaving too differently other than the occasional taunt from randoms and Kensuke ignoring him ostensibly. He still has Mami for a friend, probably Shingo too. If he's willing to try, I'm sure Touma has the emotional intelligence and social skills it takes to make a flawless comeback and compensate for that less than ideal exit.

This is not about gender dysphoria, is about people learning to accept their own selves. Right now there is no character with a mental illness, just insecure teenagers. I was more worried about Touma wanting to be a little girl than Futaba wanting to be a Futanari, but right now those fears are gone.

I feel like you're underplaying the impact of him being outed. I doubt anyone will openly mock him because of how big he is. People will definitely treat him differently now. Girls won't be friendly with him now that they know he's gay and isn't interested in women. Guys will avoid him out of fear of being targeted by him.

Plus I doubt Touma really cares about trying to get back in good graces with people. He was prepared for something like this to happen one day. The way he acted during the fight makes it feel like he's done caring about what people think of him.

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Also, nips are kinda hypocrites, so they are going back talk him and smile in front of him. I am curious about how the author is going to portray people’s reactions. We know social media in Japan treats gays as a joke, but Touma is going against the safe space for a gay.

Touma x Nisaka x Enta

Touma by Mentaiko.

FPBP
Came here to post this

And that’s why you are so unhappy and can only shitpost in a chink board.

Yes

>one minute apart
hm...

Just because Touma likes a smaller guy doesn't mean he's a shotacon.

What about that? One is praising the user, the other is against him.

Touma x Taichi Erwin x Manlet Is time for Hitomi to shine again

...Isnt that one the agressively homophobic one that literally fought him just for saying hes gay

All I see about this manga are always long discussions centered about the gay dude's misfortunes for not being reciprocated, is there more? Was it even popular before?

I can’t remember that happening.

Touma and Masumi are the actual main characters, Taichi and Futaba are basically audience stand ins. This isnt really their story, its the faggots, and theyll be getting a happy ending

That's Kensuke you dingdong.

We also discuss entitled bitches, nice girls, lesbians, insecurities and so. But the main plot is about Touma being gay, so...

But... it is user

No, Kensuke is the one who fought Touma. Einosuke is a minor character who's on the baseball team and has a beauty mark under one eye.

The story is about a group of teens growing up and learning about life. I can’t even say Touma and Masumi are the main because we need all the characters development to arrive to the latest happening.

Oh woop right, Eino is the one who talked a bit with Taichi after the accident right? Black haired one?

Someone post the Einosuke rec pic.

It's a very slow manga and we are in the middle of gay drama, there isn't much more to talk right now.
And yes, it's has been fairly popular for a while.

Its a romance manga about a faggot and a dyke. What did you expect
And also misogyny which ended up being surprincingly profund

Just read it. Touma is everyone's favorite character and a lot of the main conflict comes from him being in the closet but there's plenty other stuff going on. It's incredibly well written, the characters are great and the art is good as well.

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Yeah but not. The plot revolves mainly around Touma's life and secondarily Masumi's. Taichi and Futaba are mainly the PoV, so they get considerable screentime and while they have their own conflicts it all pales behind the other two.
The manga on itself is lgbt, and homophobia is the axis of the plot. The rest are components of it, but its not really about them

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It got fuckhuge cause actual lgbt rep on shonen. Its not terribly notable, creative, unique nor is the art particularly impressive (albeit the paneling is really high tier).
What sells it is decently realistic gay shit on a category its completely unheard of

We havent seen him in forever. If he ends up being the actual gay end that'll be something

>Einosuke seems to be in pretty good shape
Was he checking on Eino?

You sjw are always sweating the details.

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Sausage pls.

Probably. Back in high school I was very much doing that to all my mildly handsome classmates

Amazing how right she was (and still is)

Sorry, I don't know. I only saved it from you know where.

Summiting aint consenting user

Why has thread suddenly sped up?

He was in the shit going down chapter, albeit briefly.

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I submit to your opinion.

Real homo hours

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Noice.

Got more of that sis. Its good on the eyes

>america wakes up
>real homo hours
not surprised to be honest

I gotchu

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I want Taichi to go through a gay/bi panic phase

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Its like 14:00 on burgerland rn and they are all at work, I think its the eurofags after work gayposting

I want them to have no-homo intercourse so they can secure their friendship.

>left to right
Should have guessed from the horrendous QUALITY it's western shit drawn by, no doubt, landwhale in framed glasses.

Same. I like seeing Taichi's perceptions about everything getting blown apart

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I'm pretty sure they're burgers, I'm busy cooking my dinner right now.

OC? If not, got the source?

homosexuality isn't right

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Aimée where's your avatar?

fuck off you whore

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>those cute little ears
GODDAMIT WHY AM I NOT ANIME
I WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM THE HAPPINESS HE DESERVES AND MORE

Yes, he is the best.

I would a Taichi

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The internet has taught me that a surprisingly large number of people have free time to shitpost at work.

Maybe if you mail Kaito enough they'll insert you into the story like Y-san in Nisekoi.

I don't speak moon.

Its ok love is universal.

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>love is universal
Yeah, makes me really happy it'll stay unreciprocated on the grounds of "the love of your life isn't real, please try again". If you really think they carefully read ALL the mail that arrives, day after day - you're naive.

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Yes.

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So, top, bottom, switch?

Option number three.

>pomf

>right: how everybody sees him
>left: how Touma sees him

Switch is the only patrician choice.

Touma-vision Taichi is pretty damn handsome.

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fucking hell those bedroom eyes

Have a thing I did

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cute

Abe-sama won't let him because the true love is only for men and women

This author has a neck fetish.

Could be. I'm betting on hand fetish.

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A blessing.

Whose? I can't into realistic expressions.

I'm grateful to fanartists drawing thing's that'll never happen.

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FPBP

I do

How do you guys want this to end anyway?

Taichi getting some self-worth lovingly fucked into him.
Futaba finally getting into her obvious pegging fantasies.
Masumi getting some comeuppance just once for being a raging asshat.
Mami winning the lottery.

>Taichi getting some self-worth lovingly fucked into him.

Yes to that. I just want everyone to still be good friends by the end.

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>don't want my best friend to know I'm gay for him
>ask him to hold my hand
I know hand holding isn't seen as romantic in every culture but I'm pretty sure it is between guys in Japan.

To be fair it was a pretty emotional moment and Taichi didn't mind it.

With everyonre being happy

Never

How does the full official translations fare? Also what's up with a single person doing both typesetting and translation. Hope she (?) isn't overworked.

t. canada user who can't be bothered to set up a VPN rn

I wonder if the canon massive size difference is to make sure you can't picture them fucking.