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What exactly was the message of KLK? What was this show trying to say?

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The message was boobs
and that Trigger knows how to make great original anime, at least sometimes

“Fuck authoritarianism”

KLK is above all the most extensive exploration of the dichotomy between chaos and order that is at the centre of all Imaishi's work, both in his stories and his craft.
While other works are either too goliardic and not interested to go in depth (Dead Leaves, PSG) or focus on lesser contingent aspects (Luluco's artistic manifesto of the studio, TTGL that is more Nakashima's child and leaves the topics care to Imaishi in the background), everything in KLK is service to this theme, exploring it though lenses both sociological, psychological, philosophical and stylistic. Every other theme, from family to identity to growth to community to evolving customs to commentary on japanese history to high school and adulthood satire, are all part, in function, and subordinated to this greater all encompassing frame.
It's even possible that Imaishi has exhausted the topic with KLK, which is way Luluco was a welcome change and leaves me curious for Promare next.

>Rapist Mama and the Life Fibers are supposed to be "authoritarian"
>Actually promote individuality and a wide range of diverse expression in clothing choices

DON'T

pick a side Yea Forums

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LOSE

YOUR

WAAAAAAAAY

>Pick a side

Ragyo

Be a nudest and don't wear clothes.

Girls fucking love clothes

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There really wasn't one. They just threw in the whole body acceptance thing or whatever so it wouldn't look like pointless fanservice.

Ryuko > Shitsuki
Literally the patrician choice
>inb4 Nui, Ragyo, Mako or any of the useless female characters

"Don't let society and norms drag you define who you are adolescent girl"
Also "Fuck conservatives" "Don't betray your friends" and probably a few more I'm forgeting.

>Ragyo
>Conservative

In what universe

The message is the same thing as TTGL but no where near as good. In the end, Ryoko has to cast away Senketsu, her school uniform, to "grow up" in a sense, as all Japanese high schoolers have to do once they graduate. Except they totally threw that idea away with the OVA. KLK was basically an attempt at recreating TTGL but without any of the actual substance.

The message of this show just feels really contradictory. The bad guys are supposed to be conformist authoritarians, but they all look different from each other and celebrate the appearance of individuality. The good guys rebel by all deciding to be equally naked in a mass nudist protest, which doesn't seem very individualistic in rebelling against society.

It's like how Panty and Stocking was supposed to be about sexual liberation and free love, but ended on a note meant to appeal to Nice Guys (tm) with a slut taming fetish.

>What exactly was the message of KLK? What was this show trying to say?
Nui best girl is the answer to both those questions

>Ryuko and Dante are the best girls.
Coincidence? I think not.

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B yourself.

>The bad guys are supposed to be conformist authoritarians, but they all look different from each other and celebrate the appearance of individuality.
It's more about people conforming to social status than authoritarianism per se. Mako's episode is pretty clear about the topic.
Higher social statuses might look like they grant more freedom, but I'd like to remind you that even Satsuki was supposed to be consumed and having her individuality erased by Junketsu, and she's at the top of the food chain.

Nonon is shit

>The good guys rebel by all deciding to be equally naked in a mass nudist protest, which doesn't seem very individualistic in rebelling against society.
That isn't how the show ends. It ends with "Every girl being able to wear whatever she wants".

KLK is an example of a show where even the creators didnt know, or lost focus of, what it was about. I remember reading in an interview that towards the end they just kind of did whatever with no real plan.

>It's like how Panty and Stocking was supposed to be about sexual liberation and free love, but ended on a note meant to appeal to Nice Guys (tm) with a slut taming fetish.
... that's exactly the opposite of what happens. You'd think that after having regrown her hymen Panty would stay with Brief, instead the moment when she gets her powers back she ditches him again.

This. KLK was fun but pointless. There’s a reason why the show is loved but rarely talked about.

The show had 20 different messages from different arcs and alltogether through the development of characters.
Some of them are so obvious that they were said out loud.
example: fight club eipsode had a bunch of seperate lessons, but a big one would be how Tyuko proved statsuki that people are more than something you can control through fear and power by saving mako with compassion
You can write a book about the lessons and takeaway from klk

That humans suck and should just leave everything to the aliens.

>red oni vs. blue oni
>except red oni is phenomenally stronger than the blue oni
>thus ruining the balance of their dynamic
How did Trigger fuck it up this hard?

That themes and messages are pointless if you can't tell a decent story.

What on earth are you talking about? Do you even know how a show is made? Do you think they just put random shit together with no plan or direction? That would make it be impossible to make anything other than random pictures.
Why have there been KLK threads every week since 2013 then? What makes an anime "pointless" anyway?

Not everything is based on that overused meme story, thank God.

did you miss the whole assimilation plot

Ryuko obviously

If you're going to do something, why not do it right?

>Why have there been KLK threads every week since 2013 then?

That is patently untrue. This is honestly the first week in a while that I can remember seeing any substantial discussion about the show and it’s only because somebody made a thread asking if it was a “time flop”.

>The message is the same thing as TTGL but no where near as good.
Wrong. See >Except they totally threw that idea away with the OVA.
Except that never happened.
>KLK was basically an attempt at recreating TTGL but without any of the actual substance.
TTGL is an outlier in Imaishi's resume, both thematically and stylistically, while KLK is more coherent and the natural evolution of his work as an auteur. I wish casuals would stop thinking of TTGL as the centre of everything.

Sex sells well

Because not every blue and red couple of characters are referencing that meme tale.

Knows about one facet of japanese culture
WHY DIDN"T THEY GET IT RIGHT?!
They weren't based on oni, retard, oni were based on the blue and red color contrast, they didn't invent it.

Does that mean Nero is a Nuifag? Or a Makofag?

Idk, I just saw it as body confidence.

FUCK YOU

that you can make a show about literally anything if it's cool enough, the same message as every Trigger anime.

they're my favorite studio because of this

based

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One is that extremism ultimately leads to the same thing. Hence Ragyo and Nui being representations of Order and Chaos, eventually fusing into one being.

Except the Pokémon Sawk and Throh, which are based on the red onion and blue one from japanese folklore

indvidualism and authoritarianism aren't opposites.

probably something about clothing

It's in fact about the very opposite.

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the thiccbrows empress is the patrician choice

Satsuki finally became Ryuko's equal after 5 years

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An analysis of fascism, then the individuality of a teenage girl, then we are so random, then an abrupt exhortation of apartheid

Why does people like this show?
Aside from style and fan service the show was pretty lame and cringe.

S'cool

Found your way

>style and fan service
reason enough for me.

Maybe, in the end, were all the Kill La Kill

hmmmm, kind of looks odd to me. You guys think I'll get used to it?

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I think it's doomed to just not look good. It's kind of an ugly game.

>Ryuko the one true hybrid went blonde.
>Satsuki the human gets "fake" bleach blonde.
What does it mean?

The message of KLK was fanservice is good, especially when the girls are underage.

just b ur self

Tomboy

Anime has messages?
well if it did, it's the clothes dont make the women the women make the clothes.

>The message of KLK was fanservice is good, especially when the girls are underage.

so the same as Evangelion and Madoka

Looks pretty good to me otherwise. Not as a game, but visually.

I want her as my pillow.