Why was this liked?

Why was this liked?

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I like it because she flies and wears blue

this is what kickstarted waifu faggotry

I liked it when I watched it at first, it was good but not good enough that I though I'd like to read the manga. Many years later I decided to read the manga because it was held in such high regard, and I loved it. Then I watched the movie again and hated it, the animation and art was great but the story was awful compared to the manga.

Iunno the manga is much better

It's impossible for me to see Nausicaa and not see THAT doujin.

As far as doujins go that was a good doujin, the art was nice.

Because it's good.

Because, even though it felt incomplete as a story, what was still there was good.

>Then people realized there was a Manga, and it was much better.

cute

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No

???
It didnt

very nice tatas

This is exactly what happened with me. It was my favourite Miyazaki film and this year I finally read the manga and it was great (though the final volume was a bit of a mess) and then I fucking hated the movie when I watched it.

Because it came out at a formative time and explored a potential vision of the future based on the pressing concerns of that time.

to this day, this movie brings me to tears from the opening music.

She has amazing boobs and the animation was pretty

It's a cold war film about the consequences of nuclear war, you tell me.

same reason as Akira

pretty to look at and read the manga

>Nostalgic, beautiful, and distinct animation
>Universal moral themes
>Premiered on Toonami way back in the early 2000s with an all star dub cast and introduced many young kids to Miazaki films.
Many of you might disagree with my third point. Under normal circumstances I'd agree. However the dub cast for Naussica starred Patrick Stewart, Mark Hamill, and Uma Thurman, with everyone's favorite meme actor Shia LaBeouf to boot. It was way above par for dubs of its time and I will defend it to the death.

its wholesome

Best manga ever

I liked the world, but it was a little dry.

it's amazing that there are artists out there so talented that will dedicate their time to multiple 50+ page fully colored epics about Nausicaa getting impregnated by bugs.

I’ve lamented since I was a teen about the lack of quality Nausicaä doujins.

All females Miyazaki draws look identical anyway, just look up a doujin of any of his other girls.

it has a mythic air

Prophetic.

Ignorance of better things.

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What am I looking at here?

even avatar was better.

very nice scan

I sometimes fall for the same. But others I really like the movie for what it is, even is Nausicaa is flat compared to the manga.

even the bible was better

Fuck this was my first ghibli film and I remember watching it way back almost a decade ago and I fucking loved it, blew me away honestly the. I recently got the manga set for free and fucking loved it, it’s a similar situation to Akira for me, honestly suprised no one hasn’t tried a full on adaptation of the series

newsflash: op is faggot

Gotta agree

giant robots are a universal threat despite the context

>mfw I got all volumes during my trip last year to Japan

I got the 2 volume hardcover edition with poster for Christmas. Would not recommend.

what's wrong with it?

No chapter numbers, constant misspellings, and way too heavy to read conveniently.

Stunning art and gut and heart-wrenching story, brilliant rising action and climax.

What was heart-wrenching about the story or brilliant about the climax? It made very little sense on its own.

It is hard to believe you’ve read it. I was on the edge of my seat the whole story through. Which part was contradictory in the conclusion? What did you add on to it so it made sense to you, other than the story standalone (which worked well for me).

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You talking manga or movie here? The film is inferior by a lot.

>nature good
>science bad
every miyazaki movie ever
I bet he's an antivax

In Princess Momonosuke it appears as though the industrialist logger are the main antagonists but in fact a natural demon which had infested the swine at the onset of the film is.

Oh I thought you were talking about the movie. The manga made loads more sense. I still felt the finale was poorly structured and packed though.

Yea I figured, the movie was a disappointment for me too, overall.

>anti mandatory injections.
Good for him if so. I wonder which pharmaceutical company think tank thought up the buzzword you use, unaware of your own hypnosis.

*paced

I liked it enough to read the manga, and I liked the manga enough to never enjoy the movie again.

this is the correct answer.

>being pro epidemies
was humanity always so retarded?

the movie was more like a fairy tale, the manga was an epic story. They share part of the plot, but they are different enough that you can consider them 2 different stories

Even worse. It's just that with internet a larger part of it can voice retarded opinions. But in general it's getting better.

Plus the MC is a cute redhead tomboy.

I dont really think the God Warrior was used that well. He wakes up, thinks Nausicaa is his mother, runs at the place with all the secrets and blows it up and dies. Also kills Teto that fuck.

>false dilemma
Low IQ.

>Also kills Teto that fuck.
Not that he intended to do so.

the giant robots are an allegory nuclear weapons, user.

But nausicaa is
>nukes bad
>airplanes good

More often than not, the most degenerate doujins get the best art. Why is it so?

Why did he passively murder all life? Just a nuclear radiation allegory? I know he was melting and shit but doesn't really seem consistent.

>science bad
>bugs good

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fpbp

I actually prefer the anime dispite having watched and read both anime and manga.
I just like liked the movie more because it ends on a happy note and with hope. Also later in the manga it gets a little too over the top with increasing psychic powers among others.
I can see why many prefer the manga, but all in all the anime warm my heart more, especially in combination with the music. I simply had the better experience with it I guess.

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Didnt Nausicaa exterminate humanity by destroying the garden? Humans outside the garden can't breathe purified air and in a few hundred years all air will be purified.

I think the ending tried to say that one of the most basic characteristic of humanity is that we are not perfect, and the new "humans" who would have inherited the Earth after the purification would not have been humans in reality. And the real humans sealed their fate during the war long ago. I read this long ago not sure really.

Read the manga, it flips the nature/science dichotomy several times

Fully canon btw. I remember reading some interview with Miyazaki where he explained the reasons behind them.

The current humans were genetically engineered to breathe the miasma and die in clean air. The only humans who can still breathe clean air and the only facilities for genetic modification exist in the garden which Nausicaa destroyed. As far as I can tell, the human race is essentially extinct. I think that goes a bit further than "we are not perfect".

Nausicaa destroyed the crypt, not the garden.
The point was that modified humans, along with the forest, were supposed to go extinct and be replaced with the preserved original humans, who caused the whole mess in the first place. What Nausicaa did was let the humans and forest continue living in a natural way without being guided by a force that only treats them as means to its plan; it may lead to bad or good things, but it won't be perpetuating the same cycle.

I don't think any woman, or any person for that matter, exists who is as good and noble as Nausicaa. She deserves to be raped

Female empowerment and shit. Did it way better than Captain Marvel.

rent free

Yeah but IIRC the crypt was where the original humans lived, the garden just had animals and some ancient robot guardian. I don't think any original humans survived volume 7. I understand what Miyazaki was going for as you put it in your last sentence, but I felt that it was all for nothing if humanity goes extinct anyway.

The original humans (or rather, some kind of backup of them) were in the crypt, but art and at least some technology were preserved in the garden. The point is that both Nausicaa's kind and all of the artificial nature was *certain* to perish in the original purification plan; her actions give the ecosystem (not necessarily humans in particular) a way to live on their own.

I suppose I see what you're getting at. Nature will find a way or it won't, but at least humans aren't desecrating it. Tha is for your help. I still think the God Warrior could have been used better but it's still one of the best manga I've read.

>Nature will find a way or it won't, but at least humans aren't desecrating it.

It isn't so much about nature vs humans as it's about nature *and* humans vs the completely manufactured order that already led to catastrophe.

Isn't it sort of ironic though? That the "nature" Nausicaa strives to protect was all made in a lab while the "artificial interference" she destroys in the crypt was the original nature?

That isn't so much ironic as it's a major theme of the manga. The forest creatures are artificially engineered, but over the course of the manga they prove to have their own intelligence and free will, which for Nausicaa matters far more than their origins. The crypt, despite being original, is a machine that aims to shape the world according to its program.

I really appreciate your thoughts on this, I only finished the manga a few days ago and havent been able to find anywhere that this sort of stuff is discussed.

In your view, are there any plot holes or contrivances in the manga? What were the weakest parts of it?

I honestly thought it was 10/10 until volume 7 and my thoughts on it haven't yet settled. My favourite part was probably the siege and the cavalry sally, both Kushana and Nausicaa really shone there and the whole thing where all the different tribes and nations suddenly get along hadn't started yet.

The manga ended in like what, 1994? I doubt you can find any hot new discussions for it.
I don't think there are any notable plot holes, but you can sort of see how Miyazaki's vision evolved over the years, with psychic powers being more or less written out after Miralupa's death and the Valley itself being left behind.

>the whole thing where all the different tribes and nations suddenly get along hadn't started yet.
That wasn't weird considering the huge, poorly understood threat they had to deal with. Like, almost nobody in the mid-30s thought that the US and the Soviets would be best buddies just a few years later.

The ending isn't dark, rather, it's hopeful. Nausicaia offed the old humanity, but there is hope for the new one because the forest and people keep changing. If the current people bleed out by bretahing pure air, the kids of their kids will start adapting since the process of nature revival will take time.

NAUSICAA FUCKS BUGS

Holy shit kill yourself.

It's not an allegory, it's pretty fucking explicit that he's radioactive. Nausicaa's sickness is consistent with a high dose of radiation, she only survives due to the Master of the Garden and his bullshit medical technology.

user, the god warriors are nukes.