Kono yo no Hate

So, did he blackmail her or did she give in voluntarily? His actions so far seemed more like he's trying to seduce her via being a manipulative fuck and making her life come crushing down around her, and when the MC walked in on them she did not really seem like she was being forced.

But then her killing herself right afterwards made it look less consensual.

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Her company probably got in contact with her afterwards and accused her of stealing the documents.

Yeah, I suppose that's the most reasonable explanation.
I'm not sure if that makes it worse or not though.

In the VN as Takuya is going back after leaving the hotel he runs into Toyotomi who tells him all about how after he fucked her he straight up told her all about his entire plan and how he was the one that stole the documents and that he doesn't love her or anything he just wanted to fuck her before she goes to jail forever.
So yeah her suicide makes more sense with that omitted info

KANNA

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>The future is not written

I guess they wanted him finding the bed and her body to be more of a shock.
Ayumi sure is one dumb woman to have fallen for his manipulations though.

PLEASES

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is there any girl in this show who is not getting raped or blackmailed?

PAPA

The best girl, of course.

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>NTR
Picked up.

Is it really NTR when she's his step mom?

That's good. I hate it when bad shit happens to good people so I need at least some ray of hope.

It is when he wishes to fuck her.

It was totally unpressured and voluntary. That's why she had an insatiable lust for razor-kun afterwards

The end scene was really hard to watch.
I feel like I failed to protect her smile.

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it felt a bit weird. she's so sweet and kind and then she goes for the slimiest shitbag we've seen so far.

>she goes for the slimiest shitbag we've seen so far
Unwilingly, also a woman's thirst is the real deal.

cute

>doing it twice
And people call him chad.

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Chad wouldn't need to ruin a woman's life to get into her panties to begin with.

OLD

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Would you do your dad's sloppy seconds?

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On the one hand, that would feel weird as fuck.
On the other hand is dad is apparently dead so that takes a lot of the weirdness away. And Ayumi seems like a really nice woman.

>lucina_whores_herself_out_to_lupin.png

This desu. Destroying a woman to get her down to your level is turbo beta tier.

I don't think she was unwilling, she's blind and retarded instead.

He's obviously the one framing her, he probably told her she's figuratively fucked after she got literally fucked, so she slit her wrist.

>Smile Status: FAILED

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>He's obviously the one framing her
Yeah, that much is obvious. My only question was if he blackmailed her into getting literally fucked or if he simply did what said to get her to fuck him.
user already answered it in detail though, they skipped a scene from the VN that makes it clear.

Does sex really leave so much on the sheets?
Or she was really thirsty?

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can't even blame anyone else. Takuya tried to prevent it and then she sided with Toyotomi, only to find out Takuya had been right and Toyotomi was the source of everything going wrong in her life right now.
that probably contributed a lot to killing herself.

She was most certainly retarded, but Takuya was also retarded by not mentioning that she's in trouble with the fucking police. That's a serious enough issue that it almost certainly would've snapped her out of the fucking mood at least, which probably meant she wouldn't have killed herself either.

So in the end, what was up with the curse around Ryuuzouji's mansion? It wasn't explained at all.

user.
Chad didn´t give a fuck about condoms at one point. The trash bin was pretty much empty in the morning. Now it´s full of tissues.

So pretty much every girl in this series gets raped or blackmailed?

I can't completely blame him for that one though. He just came home to see some slimy fuck all over his step mom's tits and when he tried to kick him out she sided with the guy. That's not really a situation where you act calm and rational, he even has that monologue a bit afterwards about how they made him feel like he was in the wrong.
He should have definitely already told her about that guy being a scheming asshole in advance though.

I can understand him being too shocked to do anything, though this sort of behavior seems so cliche in stories I'm at the point where I only find it tiresome.

It's not like he needed to construct some highly complex rational argument in the heat of the moment, all he needed to do was literally tell her what he came home to say in the first place, that she's got legal trouble and he got a call from her company at school because they couldn't find her. Then assuming she isn't completely retarded, she would've remembered that the phone rang and that Toyotomi stopped her from answering which should've tipped her off that the fucker is crooked. I guess the story needed her to kill herself so Takuya has a reason to go back to his time checkpoint at school.

>He should have definitely already told her about that guy being a scheming asshole in advance though.
I'm pretty much convinced she would've ignored him completely if he said that with no evidence, she had a good opinion of Toyotomi and it doesn't seem like she assigns any particular weight to Takuya's thoughts, she knows better than her 'son' of course. She knew he didn't like Toyotomi to the point of getting violent but it doesn't even cross her mind that he might actually be right or have a reason to mistrust the guy.

Basically with very few exceptions.

Why Lucina please old man?

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>she would've remembered that the phone rang and that Toyotomi stopped her from answering which should've tipped her off that the fucker is crooked.
I dunno. The guy has all the warning signs written right across him and yet she still proceeded to fuck through a whole trash bin of tissues with him. Like you said here
>I'm pretty much convinced she would've ignored him completely if he said that with no evidence
she seems too stupid to spot it. Not sure what she sees in him though, even though he behaved better around her he was still very obviously fake.

I mostly found that scene weird because her characterization up until then didn't seem like she'd just disregard her son's opinion and is completely stupid, only maybe a bit too kind and naive. I assume the VN had more on her personality.

I do hope Toyotomi eventually pays for it though. I can't stand characters like him. There's pursuing what you want and then there's pursuing what you want at any cost - with said costs being paid by others.

Can you fuck the stepmom in the game? Asking for a friend.

So the artist would be a Lucina fan?

>I do hope Toyotomi eventually pays for it though. I can't stand characters like him.
Me neither, these characters seem to be created specifically to get hated anyway. I assume Takuya will now travel back to earlier that day and prevent Ayumi's suicide. I assume that would generally mean exposing Toyotomi in some way.

>Me neither, these characters seem to be created specifically to get hated anyway.
And yet I end up falling for it and hating them every time. It shouldn't work that well because it's too obvious what they are going for but it still does.

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I suppose they're used because they're effective.

It's specifically hating them that works so well on me though. There's few stories that manage to succeed with their tear jerkers on me when they are preceded by a dozen flags, because you know what's coming.
But with these characters, all they have to do is open their mouth once and spout the usual shit and I hate them enough that I actually have to go on Yea Forums to rant about it.

Yes.

Can you blame him though?

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look at all those unvirgin sluts, only sensei is pure. Pure!
>proceeds to get banged by the school baseball team

How much suffering will the MC go through?

More than enough

sensei is the one girl that does definitely not look pure at all
I assume a lot. but I hope he at least manages to create a time line where the suffering for everyone involved ends up being minimal

People tend to forget that this is game is an eroge and not your usual visual novel with 18+ scenes. For the ones who don't know what it is. An eroge is a full blown porn game. Rhe very fact that every episodes has so much sex jokes and fan service. Relates to the game.

So if you expected some sweet story like grisaia where the MC gets all the girls and fucks them as a reward. In an eroge you will see much fucked up things in relation to sex and sex.

There is an animation made years back of YU-NO classified as hentai.

So if you expected some light hearted story you're in for a wild ride.

Is this entire show gonna about women willingly getting raped and a cuck mc that'll help them instead of disown the sluts?

If you search the game you would find this is an "eroge". And eroge are full blown porn games. Expect only sex related things and not some light hearted story.

So the whole anime will be him solving their issues? That would be interesting as I'm losing hope for the anime with all the edgy rape fetish shit going on

>this is game is an eroge and not your usual visual novel with 18+ scenes
>2019 Yea Forums
ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Well, I don't know any full blown eroge games who have been made into an anime. So don't know how the fuck they are going to adapt this. But whatever happens the stage has already been set. Kanna visiting a room in a hotel where an old geezer was waiting for her. Well that's not going to be an innocent talk but he is going to fuck her obviously. Ayumi already fucked. Even if the MC having a save point. I can't easily erase what happened. A going back into time is not going to erase what we have already seen.

>ahahahahahahahahahahaha
So in 2019 we should find it normal is we see NTR happening and innocent girls being fucked by old geezers? I guess some people indeed have lost their senses of reality. If something doesn't satisfy you you go searching for more extremes. You're pathetic.

How good is the time travel plot because thats they only reason Im watching this, if I wanted to jerk off Id just watch hentai.

Eroge is just a game featuring sexual content retard. Grisaia is just as much an eroge as Yu-no is.
>So in 2019 we should find it normal is we see NTR happening and innocent girls being fucked by old geezers
What are you even talking about?

Fuck time travel they already fucked it up by. Throwing 2 girls to the sharks and you going to tell me we solve it all with a save? Fuck this shit I'm out.

>What are you even talking about?
Did you even know what happened to Kanna you fuck?

Explain how what happened to her is related to you not knowing what an eroge is.

>Eroge is just a game featuring sexual content retard. Grisaia is just as much an eroge as Yu-no is.
Clearly a case of a weeb who doesn't know there is a fucking difference. Perhaps you should do some research before you try to lecture me.

I mean, that doesn't really answer his question (which I'd have also asked).
If it contains sex, whatever. If it's just girls getting themselves raped at every opportunity and MC does little else but trying to "undo" their bad decisions by switching to other timelines, that's not so great.

>Explain how what happened to her is related to you not knowing what an eroge is.
This retard practically says there is no difference between an eroge and a VN. Please get out of my sight.

Maybe you should. VNDB says the same thing, Pixiv says the same thing, Niconico says the same thing.

>practically says there is no difference between an eroge and a VN
Does it make it easier if you misrepresent my position?