Almost all nerdy hobbies have gone mainstream but anime is still niche. What do you think it is the reason?

Anime is growing strong, it's just that for the past 20 years we've had grown men sitting down drawing little girls in a lewd way and it's gotten even worse now. The eternal boomer cries out as he watches zoomers call little girls 'petite'

It has resisted the various peaks of popularity, but I think some day it will be part of mainstream culture like video gaymes, comics, boardgames etc

If you want some examples of "nerdy hobbies" that are still niche, here are some:
>Tabletop role-playing games
>CRPGs
>Card games (not hearthstone)
>Building models
>Strategy war games
>Miniature war games

Anime is not on this list. Anime has gone full mainstream.

Even in Japan anime is not popular.

No way anime becomes as popular as video games

The overt sexuality of some shows.

The truth is, mr shekelstein is the one who decides what people will consume. If he decides anime is a good way to make more shekels, people will consume more anime. But mr shekelstein isn't dumb, he knows anime is known for being consumed only by pedophiles, so he'll need to shekelstanize anime so westerners will feel comfortable watching it. He also knows americans are so dumb, they can't consume things they're not related to, so he invests in dumbed down live actions with minorities to make the fat fucks happy. mr shekelstein is smart man.

Anime is so popular in Japan promoting prefectures with anime to attract tourists is an actual real thing, I don't know why you want to lie to yourself like that.

This. Manga absolutely dwarfs it.

Have you been living in a bubble?
Normal crowds don't know / watch / read SHIT.
Normal ANIME EXPERTS might have heard of Dragonball, Sailormoon on One Piece, that doesn't make anime mainstream.
If you spend all of your time awake in this or similar shit holes you might get the feeling that anime is everywhere.
Go outside sometimes, talk to people.
You'll get cured out of your delusions fast.
If you're still not convinced check numbers, compare sales, earnings, you know the drill.
And then you'll realize the best anime earns amounts somewhere in the vicinity of rounding errors for real mainstream entertainment.

Anime is niche.
There being a handful of super popular mainstream anime doesn't mean the whole medium in now mainstream.
1 obscure arthouse film somehow becoming super popular doesn't mean that arthouse is now mainstream.

How out of touch/new are you?

Because of the negative stigma that comes with it. Here in the west though, normal fags have made anime a cool and hip hobby to have.

>Attracting weeb tourists
Except family and kid shows anime is extremely niche even in Japan. It's going to be even more niche in other countries.

>he unironically thinks this means anime is popular
Kill yourself retarded tripfag.
videor.co.jp/tvrating/

>Anime
>niche

>nearly every fucking male currently aged 25-30 has watched Dragon Ball Z at least once

You are kidding

Anime been mainstream since the 80s, a better question is why does americans think the entire world is like in their neighborhood?

His strategy doesn't fit the global average IQ for his kind. Clearly this man has failed in subversive tactics.

> tabletop RPG
Sorry, stranger things and critical role are working hard to make 5e a normalfag hobbie

Anime is most certainly not niche. The 90s is when it became really popularized globally with Dragonball, Sailor Moon, and Pokemon. Even before Mecha shows were pretty much known inspiring such franchises as Transformers in the West.

Anime conventions nowadays in places like America attract hundreds of thousands of visitors, cosplay is now pretty much accepted as a quirky side-hobby for many (in part helped along by Halloween dress up), and anime memes are spewed out left right and center among normies all the time.

There are only genre niches in anime remaining nowadays but anime itself is most certainly not niche.

I'm from a country that likes anime so it wouldn't work like in whatever place you are from. I could name celebrities normalizing anime on places like twitter but some anons could get nervous, anime is pretty mainstream right now so don't be surprised when that reality blows in your face.

They are made to attract Japanese tourists.

>hey, anime is niche, because my retarded logic says so
How to argue against that.

Two reasons:
1) sexy JCs make plebs uncomfortable
2) the jewish mafia can't sink their claws into it because the yakuza already have

>Because of the negative stigma that comes with it.

>Even in Japan anime is not popular.

Late-night and otaku geared anime maybe, but there are numerous shows which are popular amongst children and nostalgic parents which are looked fondly upon and air at normal , prime-time daylight hours.

Only DBZ, Pokemon, Naruto and Sailor Moon are mainstream.

Ever went to jaoanese twitter? All top trending topics are anime related.

Astroboy, Macross, Space Battleship Yamato, Lupin and others were highly popular in southamerica before Dragon Ball/Sailor Moon/Pokemon, all titles not even OP have watched.

Normalfags want to interact with other people face-to-face, while we're too autistic to do that and just seek approval form other disaffected anons who also masturbate to children's cartoons from another country.

*Japanese

Because it's childish.

What's the first things that come to mind to a normalfag when he/she is asked about anime?
Battle shounen, CGDCT, power fantasies aka isekai and porn.

>anime is still niche

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Anime is considered childish by most adult Japanese people. It would be more normal and less cringy for someone in Japan to say they watch Korean dramas than anime.

Anime is trending topic even on worldwide scale.
This is how you spot underages on the board.

Only anime that are pre-90s are still niche.

>watching DBZ makes you an anime fan
Just like how microwaving leftover pizza makes me Gordon Ramsay.

not much has changed

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I was going to ask why OP would be lying so much or maybe if he was plain stupid and new, but
>we're too autistic
So you are just underage and LOOKING for a niche medium to feel special, sorry kid, try another place, anime is not.

The (((mainstream))) fear the Samurai.

because hollywood executives haven't managed to make a successful motion picture adaptation and hopefully never will

It doesn't reflect the reality. Young folks(under 18) are into anime and manga but once they hit college most of them stop watching anime. Manga is more popular with adults but most of them only read the big ones like One Piece since they grew up with it. Anime is most popular in Japan and even there it's niche. Imagine the other countries.

Pure lie. Right wingers(majority) will publicly shame him if he confesses he likes anything Korean while almost all millenials and zoomers LOVE anime.

The safe anime-tachi are more mainstream now for sure.
I just long for a day when CGDCT and ecchi anime become the TV shows one can discuss with their families over dinner.

Here in Tacoland Anime is really mainstream. They even made public showings of the last DBZ movie and manga is sold in convinience stores and newspaper stands, I have seen people wearing ahegao shirts and sweaters in public on several ocations.

I'm guessing it's because they tend to air Anime on TV on kids channels, I watched Doremi, Ranma, Sakura CC, DBZ, Pokémon, captain Tsubasa, Heidi, Dr. Slump, Saint seya, Zoids and more just from public free TV channels.

I just bought Akira, Blame and Beastars from a sanborns, which is some Mexican kind of luxury store / restaurant.

Niche fo the underage that made this thread and retards like this *
Even my grandparents have seen Candy Candy and Mazinger.

>What do you think it is the reason?
I can think of a few reasons

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>Everybody watched DBZ so anime is mainstream
I love this logic.

Here are all my hobbies that have gone mainstream and the only 2 that have remained niche in my 30 years in life:

>having a computer
>being online
>playing videogames
>liking/ watching superhero movies
>liking cartoons

Still niche
>playing yugioh
>watching anime

I don't think playing yugioh will ever be mainstream. My favorite is (when talking to a woman I don't care about):
girl: I'm such a nerd, I love Marvel movies
me: cool I'm a nerd too. I go to locals every saturday to play yugioh
girl: ehhh, I'm not that type of nerd

It reflects reality. Go to any shop or food chain or rail station you will see anime characters(daytime or late night) everywhere.

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Yeah Doraemon and Anpanman are popular.

So you will elaborate on what's the flaw on it? OP point is that anime is a rarity people don't even know it exists and you have admitted EVERYONE knows DBZ IS AN ANIME, killing OP point, anime is mainstream by only that logic, but is you don't like it there's another 5 points being thrown in this exact same thread proving OP point to be false from another angles besides "everyone watched DBZ" like you say.

>ahegao shirts and sweaters in public
God I hate niggers who do this. Please keep your fetishes off the public space, yes even "ironically".
Show it off in a house party or something.

>playing yugioh
*siiiiip*
Now THERE'S a nerdy hobby. You have to be dedicated to keep up with card game metas in general.

Attack on Titan, One Punch Man, My Hero Academia, Jojo’s Bizzarre Adventure

Tabletop RPGs are normie now.

Every little girl in Japan watches Precure too.

lol

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Not everybody knows it is an anime. Just DBZ is not enough to make the whole medium mainstream.

I don't think you understand what mainstream means

>make 5e a normalfag hobby
>5e
And nothing of value was lost.

Mexicans don't do anything ironically bro.

Nice backpedalling, and even nicer how you ignore everything else, but that's the point I was making so ok.

Anime will be mainstream when there is at least one show everybody knows every season. Not every 10 years.

>every country is like America

> playing yugioh
Isn't that for little boys? What a loser.

well true, except when everyone wants to play 5e always and are too stupid to try and learn something new... Introducing my friends to RPG with 5e was a mistake.

Little boys can't afford the cards to remain competitive.

This was cute at the beginning but now is turning sad, if it really makes you cry so much you should just try to avoid the topic and be happy with your own hobby, there's nothing worng with the entire world liking it too.

thoughts?
t.nip

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> every season not every 10 yeara
Nice moving goalposts, not everyone needs to be a manchild that keeps watching kids shows, one every 10 years seems fair to me.

DBZ, then Naruto now AoT and who knows what else normalfag are watching.

Don't act like anime is some mainstream thing that every non-american watches. I live in Europe and anime is still niche here.

Anime is on fucking Netflix.

Also read status451.com/2016/09/15/social-gentrification/

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Nope, once you start watching you'll never really stop. The problem is that not many people are interested in the first place

So are bollywood films

How mentally challenged do you have to be to make up this much shit with no citations or references to fucking anything?

The definition of normalfag have really lost any meaning by now, for example in latin america Card Captor Sakura was just as popular as Saint Seiya and Sailor Moon, yet you don't see people calling it a normalfag anime, same goes for Yu Yu Hakusho that was the cool kids choice in school.

This dude wants to be special for liking anime, I say very, hell I bet my dad have a higher powerlevel than him.

quora.com/Do-anime-fans-in-the-West-know-that-anime-is-passe-or-not-a-mainstream-entertainment-in-Japan/answer/Erica-Friedman
quora.com/How-much-of-Japans-culture-involves-around-anime/answer/Erica-Friedman
quora.com/Ive-been-told-that-anime-is-actually-a-very-niche-thing-in-Japan-Answers-I-saw-on-Quora-support-this-claim-As-a-Japanese-person-or-someone-who-lives-in-Japan-do-you-think-this-is-true
youtube.com/watch?v=R_m7XmnVsY8
Start watching this video after 7.30
Everyone of them lives/lived in Japan. Everyone of them says the same thing. We have to take their word for it.

Just because something gets a lot of views on Youtube or a bunch of votes on MAL does not mean you can go ask a random person what anime they are watching this season and they would tell you

That's very sad. But no matter how normie your hobbie is, if you love it autistically enough you are still a disgusting otaku.

>normie

>anecdotes from two people on quora and one on Youtube
>EVERYONE who lived in Japan
Been a while since I saw shitposting this obnoxious.

Remember when the Teen Titans cartoon had a fucking Japanese theme song?

Better than literally 0 sources like yourself, faggot.

Abe literally used Oreimo to encourage 18 year olds to vote

YOU'RE the one making the claims, you fucking imbecile. I bet I can find you twice as many soccer moms on quora who swear that violent video games have made their children more violent. Until you post a legitimate study on this shit you're talking to yourself. And now fuck off you retarded faggot.

>still niche
only the fucked up shit that I like it still niche

I'm not even them you daft cunt, I'm just pointing out how they manage to find SOMETHING to back up their points while you have nothing.

Will you naggers actually agree on a definition of mainstream before you continue your autism?
I say it's when 40% of a population watches it regularly.

Uzamaid and Wataten were between the most popular anime from the past 2 seasons so...

>doing things that little boys do
>loser

if anything he's a winner.

Do I have to repeat myself? I'm not the one talking about my personal headcanon of Japan here.

Just look at the tv ratings. All of them are kids shows that have been airing for years.
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-01-24/japan-animation-tv-ranking-january-14-20/.142523

What?

meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths

Homework: apply this to anime. Are you a mop?

Are you for real? How retarded can you be?

Anime is mainstream. Everybody knows about fucking Hero Academia and JJBA these days.

Every definition would result in anime being mainstream, the problem here is this guy on denial sperging around because liking anime doesn't make him special and unique.

D&D might be, but actual tabletop strategy games aren't, I'm not going to impress any women telling them about how I painted my sons of horus reaver squad

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Anime is not something obscure. I would say it's more popular than comics(not movies). But it's not something that everybody and their mothers know. That's why it's niche. Not a small niche but niche.

At this rate, how many anime already "everybody knows", at this rate these normalfags that don't watch anime will end up watching more anime than OP and his special friends.

>I'm not the one talking about my personal headcanon of Japan here.
Oh the irony.

>not something that everybody and their mothers know
It is outside USA, or at least is something people don't get embarrassed to admit outside USA.

fucking kek man. I needed that laugh

pokemon kinda let everyone know what anime is, the art style of anime is what people immediately know an anime is for

during the pokemon craze around the first movie's release here fox news had an in depth story about what anime is

Why not even bothering in changing the IP.

Here is an average respectable Japanese salaryman's room

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>anime is still niche

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>"I have no idea what I'm talking about but I'll pretend I do"

What do you mean? I'm the second guy. Others are different.

Who is the blue haired girl in the top left? Her eyes are too far apart.

Why does it matter if your coworker or neighbour watches a few anime? Isn't it about the target audience? Most late anime still target mainly a niche group and don't try to appeal to a mass audience. Even if they are watching it as long as producers don't decide to actually target them popularity is irrelevant.

Have you considered suicide?

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Me. Also, that was rude.

Random VN slut like most of the other posters. Visual novel characters are known for having their eyes too far apart.

Its still a niche. Whoever says "I watch anime daily" would be casted off instantly. if someone else says "I watch movies/bike/read books/play game/watch tv/etc daily" no one would bat an eye. Actually "video game" might still be slightly less acceptable than those examples, but games have a much higher social status than anime.

From cute to sad and now funny how hard you are looking for the approval of the rest, form your own opinions instead of clinging to another's at least.

There's a reason why japs think otaku are subhuman.

Literally not Japanese.

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The fuck are you rambling about?

I'd say dubbed is somewhat mainstream. But it's always been.
Subbed is still relatively niche but more accepted I'd say.

Are you drunk, user?

Not outside USA, also don't try so hard to compare anime with things like riding bike/read books, saying "collecting toys" or "I collect comic books" is even weirder than saying "I watch anime" and all three are well known hobbies, which is the main point here.

We have this thread multiple times a day it seems.
Anime isn't mainsteam. The 10 or so mega hits are. I don't see any normalfags discussing how much they liked GDGD fairies or hakumei to mikochi.

The image he used is flawed and not even applicable to the situation, why not calling out the guy asking people to die to be rambling instead of me?

>why not calling out the guy asking people to die to be rambling
Go to bed.

I was the one that posted the image you retard.

>because people in general don't watch 30 shows per season including obscure shorts that means is not mainstream
Again, by that definition of mainstream anime IT IS as mainstream as anything else. try reading the thread, especially all the comments that have been conveniently ignored.

I'm an American college student, surrounded by youth and mainstream culture.
There are plenty of people here who have watched DB/DBZ/Super, Naruto, FMA, Jojo, BnHA, Sailor Moon, One Punch Man, Death Note, Devilman, and the list goes on. They aren't weird people. They have girlfriends, play first person shooters, and go to classes like anyone else. A lot of them grew up on Toonami.
I've even met people who enjoy anime as a dedicated hobby.
If anime is not already mainstream, it will be once this generation gets older.

Nope. Only thing that's happening here is people using diffrent definitions of "mainstream" and being a smug cunt about it on both sides.

>because people in general don't watch 30 shows per season including obscure shorts that means is not mainstream
Your retarded exeggeration proves exactly nothing. The other user was talking about 10 mega hits and all you did was conveniently move the goalpost. Most people have seen hundreds of movies and many played dozens if not hundreds of video games. Now try to ask people what anime they've seen. Hardly anyone will even know more than 10.

>mainstream
>the ideas, attitudes, or activities that are shared by most people and regarded as normal or conventional.

Toy/comic collectors are in the same range as anime fans.

The main point "anime is mainstream" its not. If anime is mainstream so are hentai fans/pony fuckers.

nice blog, zoomer-kun

>FMA
shit tier taste

Tons of people have seen shows like Dragon Ball and JoJo, so it seems like anime is mainstream. But that's ALL they've seen. Even when you come to places like Yea Forums, that's actually all the anime that most people have seen. Anything outside that tiny tip of the popularity iceberg is niche.

So magically someone that doesn't watch everything airing in a season ended up watching GDGD fairies? I wonder what funny post will you make now.

See

Anime hasn't been niche for decades.
Unless you are talking about fanservice trash.

To be absolutely clear, I'm saying anime is niche. It's not mainstream. It's never going to be mainstream. It can't be mainstream.

This.
Anime is not more time consuming than other hobbies. People watch long ass American tv shows.

>「アニメは」と「アニメが」じゃない
クソ馬鹿

>fanservice trash
Doesn't exist.

Speak English fucking nip

Don't forget to like and subscribe, shitposter-kun

I will tell you to read my post again before replaying to me.

Hey, gdgd fairies has a pretty dedicated following.

Anime never walked away from its stereotype, so it has a hard time acquiring mainstream appeal.

seething

I wonder if loli and shota porn will ever become mainstream like the rest of the medium.

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>Less than 1% of the whole population watch anime as a hobby
>Anime is mainstream.

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>source: my ass

It's not anime's fault that feeble-minded Westerners have manufactured stereotypes about it.

They fear the samurai.

I already showed you fuckers a lot of sources.

Even in Japan anime has a stigma. It's not just westerners.

lol @ this post and the people arguing against this post It's all projection. These posters hate anime so they want to convince themselves and others that anime is niche and looked down upon in Japan, because this then validates their own hatred of anime.

to much loli shit with the character design

Anime is made in Japan according to Japanese cultural norms which are completely different from Western cultural norms.

>UK

more like not enough.

The vast majority of anime characters are not loli.

Is liking cartoons really mainstream though? In the US, it feels like the prevailing sentiment is that cartoons and animation are childish unless they're geared for adults like Family Guy or the Simpsons.

Sexualizing children is not okay anywhere. That's why most anime is late night. Only creepy otaku watch them. Normal people don't even know they exist.

>Almost all nerdy hobbies have gone mainstream but anime is still niche
barely, it's almost too normalfag now.

Anime doesn't sexualize children. It doesn't have children in it. It's not real. What anime does is acceptable in Japan which is why it's so routinely done in Japan.

Your "creepy otaku" do not exist.

Only good anime is still niche. We have entry level shit like Naruto acting as a wall between us and normies.

Non-anime animation is mainstream as a whole. Disney and Pixar are more popular than anime even in Japan(not counting Doraemon and Anpanman) They are perfectly normal.

Yes, cartoons are mainstream, and yes, you're ignorant if you think otherwise

Disney is popular in Japan but this meme is based entirely on Frozen which was an outlier.

>anime is still niche
no, but CGDCT is

There's a major difference here which is that most on Yea Forums are constantly online where hobbies like video games and anime are extremely popular and may be very vocal. Whereas in real life, the average person doesn't think about anime or video games. If I told people I didn't know about the video games I play and that I watch anime, there's a good chance that I may be outcasted.

Anime is popular, not mainstream.
Video games are mainstream and popular, but certain niches still remain. (it's acceptable to say you're playing Red Dead Redemption, but it may be seen as weird to say you play Senran Kagura)

>I may be outcasted
Delusional. Real people don't care.

Moe and loli are too sophisticated of concepts for the lukewarm iq masses to appreciate

>Normal ANIME EXPERTS might have heard of Dragonball
Dude even my parents know what pokemon, sailor moon and dragonball. You must be under-age.

I can think of at least 10 anime that have pretty clearly creepy otaku in them, made by otaku presumably. Either otaku in Japan have an internalized persecution complex or Japanese society really thinks they are weird perverts.

Yea Forums has a certain taste in anime, it's always spurned the trashy mainstream shows because that's what normalfag forums are for.

>His parents know children's cartoons from the 90s
>Accuses other people of being underage

The "otaku" that Westerners are constantly losing sleep over do not exist.

That's a pretty big implication. Your average normalfag cares about the people he associates with and they may not want to be known as friends with the "weird" guy who watches anime everyday, if you so mention it. Especially because it conjures up an image in people's minds.

That was reflective of the late 90's/early 2000's attempts of Western cartoon/comic execs trying to cash in on the anime boom at the time. People on here who think anime "went mainstream" recently are either underage or just plain oblivious

How the fuck do you know?

I'd assume most people's parents here would know of Pokemon, Dragonball, and Sailor Moon. If you were born in 1988, you'd be around 9 or 10 when most of those aired.

All you have to do is have an actual personality that isn't defined by what you do when you're alone in your room.
Unless you are a disgusting sweaty autist then I guarantee that people don't care.

anime boom=kids watching americanized dbz

Because I'm one of the approximately five people in the entire West who have actually bothered to study the matter.

Sorry but I would take the word of people who have been to Japan over a westerner weeb's any day

CGDCT isn't going to stay niche.

>1999 is 20 years ago

I'm 27 and i've never seen a single episode. Watching DBZ doesn't make you an anime fan.

Literally see normalfag memes like "anime was a mistake" around.

Why would being to Japan give anyone deep insight into otaku? In fact, people who've "been to Japan" are always the most ignorant because they think that merely going there immediately makes them an expert on every single imaginable aspect of Japanese culture.

>Japanese society really thinks they are weird perverts.
Japan literally has porn with 3DPD and squid.

>anime is still niche

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That's the image that is conjured up in the normalfag mind though. No shit anyone with confidence can say they enjoy something, it allows them to.

>be fan of anime
>somehow not an anime fan
It's fucking black and white user.

Is that why Goku is the mascot for the Olympics in Japan?

I think we need to increase the amount of lolis in anime. Every show should have at least one loli in it. It'll act as a normal fag filter. I want to go back to the days were everybody saw us as weird creeps.

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Just got out of college. People in my dorm would regularly watch anime together in the common room. Mind you, this wasn't a dedicated anime club - just people that happened to live on the same floor treating anime as you would any other TV series.

Not just one person. Erica Friedman for example has been in the industry for more than 20 years and she published manga and everything and she is the head of yuricon. Let's hear what she says
quora.com/Do-anime-fans-in-the-West-know-that-anime-is-passe-or-not-a-mainstream-entertainment-in-Japan/answer/Erica-Friedman
Not this woman. Literally everyone who have been there say the same thing.

They do see you as a weird creep, and are presently working to take control of all Japanese media industries so that problematic content can be neutralized.

>ur not a TRUE anime fan unless you've watched this extremely popular anime that every other human has watched
Reddit logic

Dragon Ball is popular since everybody watched it as a kid but watching anime as hobby is niche as fuck

that's more of an "ironic weeb" thing than straight-up normalfag thing

oooo you mean like this fag?

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Everyone on reddit says the same thing about anime too, guess they must be all right (no they're not).

"Otaku" are a made up group of people, and anime is indeed mainstream in Japan.

We need to have ALL anime carry a stigma of being creepy, not just some.

Anime is only niche among oldfags.
It's fairly mainstream for people under 30.
I think there's still a stigma to talking about it in public though.

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It does all have that stigma, and the result is that we are now in danger of losing anime. What you really want is for people to not even think about anime.

I blame ironic weeaboos.

idk why everyone says anime is mainstream. Maybe its different outside Canada, but here I doubt the average normie watches anime, other than stuff that was on when they were kids. At my university the only anime fans I've met are weird nerds like myself (then again, I don't socialize much). Maybe its still becoming more popular, but from my interactions anime is either considered weird, or barely known at all. I still remember a normie student was sent to check the fire alarms in all the dorm rooms, and making fun of me for my Madoka poster.

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>What you really want is for people to not even think about anime.
While that is the favorable outcome, it is not possible.

Mainstream means your parents and turbo normies know what it is. My Dad called me a faggot for having a Jojo wallpaper on my laptop, so I'm gonna say thats a sign its not mainstream

He's not wrong.

Yup, I've seen people in a common lounge watching FMA together and have walked in on people watching Jojo more than once.
You didn't go to my school, did you?

Anime as a whole is niche in the West and Japan besides a few giants like DBZ but I have had people argue with me that DBZ and Pokemon are not Anime.
A lot of people don't know what Anime is.

Probably what is stopping Anime from becoming mainstream in Japan is the stigma associated with it being for kids and weirdos.
In the west it is probably difficult to market due to normal fags or even us not being the intended audience.
There aren't enough shows appealing to the west and the ones that outright try too are shunned by the Japs and shunned by the people in the west who actually like Anime for being too western.
Look at Space dandy, completely forgotten.

If you are finding it hard to understand what mainstream means then here is an example.
Game of thrones is mainstream, it is popular among everyone of all ages, it spoken about constantly and mentioned everywhere you look.
In the last week I have spoken to my boss about it, my entire family about it(who think fantasy is really gay, they hated lotr) and a few random clients of various ages.

Same. I started watching anime when I was 23.
Bless anti-normalfag late night anime.

>Space dandy, completely forgotten
Good riddance.

No your dad just has good taste.

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Look at these made up people

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I seriously hope anime never becomes more popular than it already is. It's already fucking annoying seeing people unironically use phrases like "weeb trash" while eating up garbage like Persona.

The problem is that you people consider pretty much everyone who consumes something anime related as someone that is into anime which isn't the case.
No normalfag comsumes anime the way I do and no normalfag is as invested in anime as I am.
Actual anime fans are rare because 90% of all the people that claim to be anime fans just watch one of the 5 mainsteam shows you hear all the time.
Saying anime isn't niche anymore because there are people who merely scratch the surface of what anime has to offer is like saying japanese woodblock printmaking isn't niche anymore because every 2nd person on this planet has a Hokusai Great Wave bootleg print laying around somewhere.
The true way of anime is still niche and never will be mainstream.

>You didn't go to my school, did you?
Not likely, it's not a very big college. It's in the PNW

It already is mainstream in Japan.

I didn't say those people are made up, so I don't know why you're bringing them up.

Agreed it was a pile of shit.
Robihachi is better.

It's because they can't unironically enjoy something. Sincerity and being genuine is considered "cringy," everything is lapped up in a cake of irony.

Those are idolfags, not people.

I don't. Tons of anime get subbed, merchandise is produced en masse. Even shitty LNs get their translations and some Japanese publishers even have sites where they offer free manga to read in English. What's not to like?

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Ah, yeah, that's all the way across the country.

RobiHachi is actually funny and has likeable characters. I'll give you that.

Welcome to a world dominated by social media. You have to expose everything about yourself, and have to defend it against everyone. Caking it up on layers of irony is a good way to refuse you never actually liked it when it becomes necessary. Fuck social media.

That's the problem. It's even worse. You've instead got a bunch of people who are like
>OMG you watched KonoSuba too! I lol'd so hard at it
>but isnt kazuma and megumins relationship wierd thoooooo, she's like 14
This used to be relagated to some shitty online forum you could ignore, but now you can actually hear these types of conversations in real life.
God someone just fucking kill me I hate it.

The subs fucking suck. They don't even translate the songs, miss half of the signs, and seem to not understand what typesetting is.

Why is the one with the least results at the top and it increases as it goes down?

"Cringe" has to be one of the most cancerous things to have ever graced the internet. Everything has to be approached from a distance with a smug, cool or ironic attitude otherwise they'd feel uncomfortable as fuck.

As a bonus, if the latest episode of GoT had a 14 year old get fucked in the ass by a senior citizen, everyone would be 100% ok with it.

Those people are otaku which you said don't exist

Even youtubers and twitch streamers are more popular anime nowadays

>Quora
>Some Youtube video
Nice evidence, retard.
And all of this are anime. What's your point?

No, what I said was that "otaku" as Westerners understand them do not exist. And they don't.

>It already is mainstream in Japan.
Anime as a medium is seen as only for children and perverted adults.
It is niche in Japan.
Manga is mainstream in Japan, everyone reads Manga there from little kids to old people.

Unless you are confusing the art style with the medium.

Good thread

They are anime because that's the top 10 anime list retard.

Still better than nothing at all. Since I don't speak a lick of Japanese I won't know the difference anyway.

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GoT isn't meant to be tilitating but anime is. A non-sexy scene of an old man raping a girl isn't the same as purposely sexy scene of an old man raping a girl.

Didnh't it have Arya getting fucked in the ass? The latter part is only a conjecture. The actress might be 22 years old, but she still looks like 14.
Shitposting aside, I don't see any hints that GoT had different standards than usual TV. They merely made more use of crude things than usual TV.

>Anime as a medium is seen as only for children and perverted adults.
This is a belief spread by Westerners who hate anime and project that hatred onto the Japanese because this makes their hatred seem more valid ("see, Japan hates it too").

Maybe they're just butthurt.

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How is a show like KonoSuba not just scratching the surface?
The day I'll be concerned is when some normalfag walks up to me in 5 years and complains about how the Despera BD release isn't on his private tracker.

Except Lycky Star and K-On are mainstream as DB.

And you know it's not because...?

What exactly is the difference between a Japanese otaku and the western version of an otaku?

No its not, this is a view point that appears in Anime itself all the time.

Because it's Japanese in origin. The ones that catch on with normalfags are either western themed or have universal appeal in lots of flashy action.

Well it could be any show. Netflix recently had some show where they showed a naked 15 year old, which should have gotten them v& but of course didn't.

I want to say part of what keeps anime more impenetrable that other mainstream media out there at the moment is that there is still an indie spirit to it. A large part of the anime market is fueled by doujin/fanwork culture that somehow doesn't fly in the West without running into legal issues. Some self-published webcomic or webnovel can get an adaptation and have the same footing in airtime as more traditionally published manga and find popularity that way. It's hard to see that happening at the same scale over here.

It's a false viewpoint. It's Western projection. It's anti-anime propaganda. It's objectively false.

user, videogames 30 years ago were played only by the geeks the same with anime now (i'm not talking about high school boys that watched naruto and DBZ), t i think it could surpass videogaes

Social media is pretty cancerous, there's no concept of hiding your powerlevel or just truly enjoying something. DFW was right, we do need a new sincerity.

And you know it's false because.....?

And your point is? Anime on that list like Doraemon have a movies every year and it's become top grossing movie in Japan every fucking year, this are the proof anime aren't niche in Japan.

Because I actually study things and use my brain.

I'm OK with the bottom 10% of garbage anime not getting translated. In the late 00s and early 10s nearly everything was covered by fansubbers.
The translations are bad, you can claim to not care due to your own ignorance, but the fact is that even someone with a rudimentary knowledge of the language can find problems with the subs.
And if someone who barely knows the language can find errors, wouldn't you think that someone who's fluent can find a whole lot more?
Recent example of an anime with trash subs is Ueno-san. Those were some of the worst subs I've seen in a long time. Starlight last year and Sarazanmai this season also had terrible official subs.

Doraemon and family shows are popular but anime as a whole is not and never will be.

>this whole thread
Now this is some next level retardation

>Terrible subs
That is because nobody cares about anime.

But most top-selling games are western.

Not even live action as a whole is mainstream. Or books. Or games. Or music.

And your proof for that claim is? bring me an actual proof then. Not just some retard shit like Quora.

>someone who's fluent can find a whole lot more
I don't think people who are fluent need translations anyway, wouldn't you agree?

Care to explain?

What is DFW?
Sincerity? Not being forced by peer pressure to broadcast your private life to the entire fucking world would probably help.

Perhaps it's better to evaluate on a case by case basis, rather than the whole entire medium.

>talking past me
Yeah, fuck you.

All of them are. Pretty much everybody watches some kind of movie, reads some kind of book, plays some kind of game and listens to some kind of music. The same can't be said for anime even in Japan.

For the people(or person) who so confidently claim anime will NEVER be popular, what's the reasoning? What is it about anime intrinsically that makes to such that it cannot never reach mainstream popularity? Not baiting, I'm genuinely curious about your reasoning.
I'm suspecting that there is some disagreement over base definitions here that we are not defining and are simply arguing past each other.

David Foster Wallace, author of Infinite Jest and a believer of getting away from intense irony.

Every movie is mainstream? Every book is mainstream? Every game is mainstream? Every piece of music is mainstream?

What the fuck is wrong with Quora? All of those people live/lived in Japan. Just look at tv rating for fuck sake.

Just because normalfags quote Jojo memes all the time doesn't mean they actually like it.

>All those people lived in Japan
Kek, imaging being this retard. In Quora you can literally fucking type anything in your profile. Might as well as bringing reddit then if you're gonna use Quora post as an evidence.

Really? I wouldn't say watching "anime" in general is any weirder than capeshit. It's definitely MORE normal than reading superhero comics in my experience, but I'm not from the US.
Depends on the anime though, there's definitely more of a range between acceptable and full weeb you can fall into just by what anime you consume.

Westerners just don't like and don't understand anime, and they have crazy expectations for it. They don't like the tropes. They don't like the humor. They don't like high school. They don't like girls. They don't like "sexualization." They don't like "power fantasies." They don't like that there are genres (every anime should be 100% unique). They don't like that not every anime is an immortal masterpiece. They have a thousand and one reasons why anime sucks.

Anime is not popular in the east either.

REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR AND NANKING OOGA BOOGA JAPS BAD

That's about it, also other things like western tv industry and cartoons being threatened by anime which is why they were blocking anime and manga from entering or being aired in america in the 80's and 90's.

I'm the same, except replace anime with western TV, and sexualization with social justice.

youtube.com/watch?v=2doZROwdte4
Here's an interesting video regarding the topic, if you're interested.

Yes it is. You just don't want it to be.

Everyone consumes them to some extent. Anime on the other is far away from that even in Japan.

No, that's just how you want it to be. There's always anime movies in the yearly top 5s and top 10s for example.

I watch anime too. It's not like I hate it or anything. I'm just not blinded by weebness.

Anime is TV and movies. Anime is not its own category of media.

Of course you hate it. That's why you think it's "weebness" to say something about anime that is positive and factually correct.

>anime is still niche.
no it's not

>tfw prefer reading manga to watching anime but EOP and most manga will never get scanlated and reading manga is a more niche hobby in the west (whereas anime is seen as more casual) so more likely to be seen as weeb territory.
>everyone who consumes something anime related as someone that is into anime which isn't the case.
How is this different for anime compared to other nerdy hobbies like OP claims?
Just watching capeshit is very different from being very invested in it.

It is its own category of media. It's not interchangeable with Jdramas or Kdramas or American dramas or American animation.

"normies" don't actually watch/play/read nerdy shit they just wear and show off the merch to belong in a fanbase.
Anime is popular but it's all mainstream stuff and even then it's people that saw a few gifs or comps online and enjoyed it
Not actually sat down and experienced it.

I watched about 7k episodes of anime. Why would I watch this much anime if I hated it?

>I watched about 7k episodes of anime.
No you didn't.

I did. I've probably seen more than you

I believe him. I've seen 8.7k episodes.

You did not, and you haven't. You are false flagging as an anime fan to make your propaganda appear more authentic.

Is 7000 episodes supposed to be a lot? That's only about 100 days worth. If you watch for 5 or 6 years that accumulates.

that shit's fucking mild compared to the shit I'm into. it like comparing lolicon to shitting dick nipples, they're two different thing at that point

Are we talking about whether or not 7000 episodes is a lot? No, we aren't. So why are you bringing this up?

>but anime is still niche
I wish

Nobody is saying that watching that much anime is impressive. However, you wouldn't be able to watch that much if you didn't like anime, at least.

Lol I dunno man. Lots of people I know have seen at least one anime. And if you include things like Pokemon it becomes literally everyone

Look at this retarded nigger.

That's as fuckin retarded as saying that American Football in the US is not popular.

What the fuck did I say that was retarded? We factually are not talking about whether or not 7000 episodes is a lot. I said we aren't. How is that retarded?

Here's my anime collection. You satisfied?

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Anyone can fake an anime collection, and you already outed yourself as the enemy.

Comic/Anime are in the same light if you're an adult. Your social status drops 10 points for mentioning them. Sure its fine if you're under 12, but once puberty kicks in, chads and nerds go separate ways.

People have been saying the same thing about videogames for decades - and the complaints are still rolling in ("problematic humor", "sexualized women", "too violent", "male power fantasy" etc.). Are videogames not mainstream?

>7k episodes
>one piece, detective conan, naruto, bleach, yyh, inuyasha
Already close to 3K with just those.

>ESL
Yikes

That's just the SJWs. Video games are created and consumed by the same people. Anime is foreign.

>Slayers
>Koukaku
>Dirty Pair
Nice. I'd get a better torrent client though, like qbittorrent.

>It's Turkroach all along
Color me surprised.

>nerdy hobbies
why are normalfags like you so unbearable go back to twitter

>talks mostly about US TV shows
>40 seconds of patreon begging at the end
Things that annoy me.

Yeah so what?

Post result from your anime archive

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So if the SJWs and the mainstream actually have different opinions and attitudes regarding video games, how are you sure that isn't also the case for anime?
If it's simply a function of being "foreign", would you say that Japanese videogames are not mainstream?

>literally taking a photo of your screen
>having a thick layer of dirt (?) on your screen
>the photo doesn't even prove anything, like showing the size of your anime collection
>all file dates within the last 6 months, going against your point
user, I...

The fact that it's animation.
In a world where cartoons are mostly for children except for raunchy adult comedies, anime will never become as popular as something like superhero movies or Star Wars.

Because almost nobody likes anime and because almost everyone spouts the crap I listed in >If it's simply a function of being "foreign"
I didn't say it's just a function of being foreign.

>6 months ago I had 1.6TB of anime
>Hard drive died and now I have like 20GB
Not that guy, but it happens.
You guys are all faggots for grilling this dude so hard, by the way. I don't even agree with what he was saying earlier, but it's stupid as hell to assume that he's merely pretending to like anime.

Yes, there's that too. In the US, animation = cartoons for children, and it's mortifying for an adult to be watching them with the sole exception of sitcoms. For a lot of people this runs so deep that you could show them Jin-Roh and they'd scream that it's a children's cartoon and tell you to grow up.

>having an anime collection
most of the garbage that comes out on a seasonal basis isnt even worth the hard drive space let alone worth collecting

>it's stupid as hell to assume that he's merely pretending to like anime
He practically admitted that he doesn't like it, by saying that anyone who states a positive fact about anime is a weeb.

Yeah It's dirt. I should clean the screen.

>positive fact about anime is a weeb
How is this wrong? Liking anime makes you a weeaboo by default. If you're deluding yourself into thinking that you're some sort of seasoned anime connoisseur, than that's probably even worse than being a Japanophile.

>Liking anime makes you a weeaboo by default.
You have no idea what weeaboo means.

>If you're deluding yourself into thinking that you're some sort of seasoned anime connoisseur
But I factually am one.

Not only US. It's the same in Japan too.

No it isn't. Anime wouldn't even exist if that were the case.

And here he is, the guy that watches anime but hates it and calls everyone who calls it weeaboos and ridicules anime itself.
Are you from Yea Forums by any chance?

Literally all he said was "anime is not popular in the east either" and that his opinion is "not blinded by weebness". At most, he was calling you a weeaboo.
You're delusional, man. Nobody who hates anime would have Dirty Pair on their computer.

quora.com/Do-anime-fans-in-the-West-know-that-anime-is-passe-or-not-a-mainstream-entertainment-in-Japan/answer/Erica-Friedman
I'm tired of sending the same link every time....

>obscure arthouse film somehow becoming super popular doesn't mean that arthouse is now mainstream.
God I wish, S.T.A.L.K.E.R is super popular yet no single normal-fag was prompted to watch the film

I stated a positive fact about anime, and he called me a weeb. He's anti-anime.

>Nobody who hates anime would have Dirty Pair on their computer.
It's fake.

She doesn't know what she's talking about.

>Quora
>No actual proof
Imagine being this retard.

truth

It's mainstream "enough" for corporations to use anime to advertise their products on TV. But I guess that's not enough for you?

How old is that image?

The year is literally in the image.

D E L U S I O N A L

Running the same search now produces the same results. But it also lists degenerates and beta males.

I have said nothing delusional.

How desperate are you that you need to delude yourself into thinking that anime is not mainstream?
It's okay to like mainstream things. Anime is one of them.

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Actually, it comes up with a bunch of memes.
And if anyone says that memes aren't mainstream, there's nothing that I can do but laugh.

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>anime is niche

Even the 'cool' kids were watching shit on toonami after school back in my day. (G gundam, dbz, etc.)
It's as 'normie' as game of thrones shit, or the walking dead.

It's not mainstream in the West. Only a couple of anime are mainstream. Outside of that, people know nothing about anime and mostly hate it.

you forgot the 'for' part

t. japanese guy

>Liking anime makes you a weeaboo by default
Damn. So I guess everyone here is a weeaboo because we are on Yea Forums of all places.
Either you're saying that the term is meaningless as an insult or you're one of the people who only "watch anime ironically". Either way, I think you've found yourself on the wrong board.

Out of all the examples you could have quoted from his post, that was one of the few decent ones.
>DB*
>Naruto
>Jojo
>BnHA
>OPM
>Devilman

That's not what I said at all, I said fans of mainstream shows were anime fans.

>Liking anime makes you a weeaboo by default
Imagine being this fucking retarded.

This thread in a nutshell
>Some anime is mainstream therefore anime is mainstream
>Not all anime is mainstream therefore anime isn't mainstream
>You don't actually like anime
>Fuck you
Retards

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>Fake
How fucked up can you be?

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Yeah I sure am retarded for calling out a false flagger as being a false flagger.

How am I fucked up if someone else has a fake anime collection to make their psyop seem more legitimate? How exactly does that implicate me? Why are you even still here? You got caught. Go shit up some other thread.

Also a reminder to anyone on Yea Forums, watch the film

I'm the op, you know xd

Even if you are, so what?

You're braindead

How does someone else's actions make me braindead? The fuck's wrong with you?

You asked me why I am here, right? That is because I created this thread. Why shouldn't I be here?

You shouldn't be here because you're a goddamn anti-anime false flagger running a psyop. Why don't you just leave already?

I'm not an anime hater. Unlike you I'm not too fanatic about it.

This is comedy gold

Yes you fucking are, as we already established. Why can't any one of you fucking shills ever just leave quietly after you're busted? It's always this same goddamn fucking shit.

How is this comedy gold?

>anime is still niche
are you an insane person. no board on this site has changed as much as Yea Forums over the last 10 years.

Dumb nigger

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>if you don't like everything that comes out of the anime medium, YOU MUST BE A FAKE ANIME FAN
the amount of black and white thinking in this thread is ludicrous

I have never been busted. Have I, anons? Show me.

I think the issue stems from everyone having a different view of what is "mainstream", especially in the current age of social media where it's very easy for everyone to sequester into their own corners of the internet and never need to see the mainstream (as opposed to TV based media in the past). Someone who hops through various facebook groups, subreddits, discord groups, twitter communities or what have you and sees a little bit on anime being present in each may have a distorted view of what "everyone else" is actually doing.
>Is X mainstream because this X related joke has Y number of likes and found it's way to the top of my feed? Hey, people in different group chats keep sharing this meme, does that mean the series it comes from is now mainstream? Wow! This streamer with Z number of followers says he too watches this series - does it mean it's now mainstream? This guy with a high number of followers on Twitter keeps sharing and retweeting anime jokes and fanart - maybe anime is mainstream now... Look at the number of YouTube views on this anime related video! That's it, anime must be mainstream!
and so on.

I'm not saying that that these are not indicators of something being mainstream, because mainstream topics also come to our attention in the same ways, but the point is that it's very difficult to tell when exactly something hits the threshold into becoming mainstream. It's very easy to think that what we see is what everyone else is seeing when we keep looking in the same places.

Hello and welcome to Yea Forums. I respect that you've lurked Yea Forums for few days, but recommend that you do so for 5 years before posting.

>everybody watches anime but it isn't mainstream due to my arbitrary made up rules
Why try so hard in a non-argument here? This is the real question

Is that what I said? No, it's not. Why are you lying?

I already fucking showed you, you fucking insufferable little shit.

What's wrong?
>Everybody watches anime
Yeah. I'm sure

This thread reminded me of how delusional a lot of posters on Yea Forums are. Anime might be mainstream, it might not be mainstream, but what I can say for sure is that there are some absolutely insane people out there.

How could it possibly be mainstream if people watch only a couple of anime and are ignorant of and usually deeply hostile to everything else?

i posted regularly in the tanoshii mahjong threads that used to be a constant feature of the board. Anime becoming mainstream has fucking ruined this board. Everyone here is a gay teenager to a far greater degree than any other board on the entire site.

Grow up, user.

If you want to talk about "current age" everyone watches and talk about anime whever you go, is a worldwide trendic topic, like someone mentioned in one of the many conveniently ignored posts in this thread, Uzamaid and Wateten were one of the most popular shows of the previous seasons, I wouldn't even need to mention this, the fact that every season there's a popular anime everyone watches already proves it is a mainstream media.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, but have you seen the NSFW boards?

people seem to like to pretend that Yea Forums is a secret club situated in the darkest corner of the internet even though the board's moderators are literal redditors and discord trannies

Why do someone else's actions mean that I must grow up? What the fuck is wrong with you?

you tug one out and leave, i don't have any significant emotional attachment to them so I don't even care to think about them.

So by your logic, movies, TV shows and videogames aren't mainstream, yeah, that's a no, there will always be a lot of people that watch a few movies a year and other lesser people that watch more movies a year, that doesn't make watching movies not mainstream.

How about all these super sexualized underage girls? That shit is not flying well with anyone judgmental.

>that screen

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Because you sound like a fucking kid.

People watch battle shounen and that's basically it. That doesn't make anime mainstream.

No, I don't. Why are you lying?

>my nan doesn't like it so it's not mainstream
what it means to be popular has changed massively you fucking tiny brained retard. being popular with big youtube personalities and big twitter types is more relevant than being on tv.
you're just playing word games and you're not smart. your hobby is popular with literally tens of millions of retard and is mainstream in youth culture when it wasn't before, which is why this board is markedly worse than it was 10 years ago. get over it.

Everybody can name you at least 50 movies off their head. Most people can't even name 3 anime.

Meant to quote this boy

>decent
yikes, it's pure normalfaggotry shit.
Everything on his list is good except that.

Not at all, at this point all I can do is call you a faggot and to go out your basement, your "everybody" doesn't work like that.

>you're just playing word games and you're not smart.
I am not playing any games, and I am certainly far smarter than you.

>your hobby is popular with literally tens of millions of retard and is mainstream in youth culture when it wasn't before
Completely false for reasons already explained.

I'm older than you.

Separating the medium itself from the individual show is the real thing that needs to be done here.
Some anime will be naturally more popular, just like music or video games or movies.

this

You sound like a literal autistic child throwing a temper tantrum just because some meanieface on the internet called you a weeaboo.

Not sure if you people are in maximum denial over watching anime not making you unique and special or you people are really this fucking stupid, either way, try reading this thread, sorry to break your bubble but Card Captor Sakura is as mainstream as Dragon Ball. and people were more excited over the announcement of Clear Card than DBS.

enjoy your word games, you're the kind of retarded teenager making this board shit. get over yourself

Autism doesn't exist, I'm older than you, and if you think calling people weeaboos for making positive and factually correct statements about anime is acceptable then that makes you anti-anime.

Ask random people on the street to name you movies. If you don't live in some secluded African village, people can tell you about their favorite movies. You can't do same with anime. Even in high school it won't be possible.

Only a couple of anime are mainstream. Otherwise people are wholly ignorant of the medium and mostly look down on it and have very little good things to say about it. It is not mainstream and it never will be mainstream because it cannot be mainstream.

I did not play any word games you goddamn liar. I'm older than you.

Your posts in this thread are some of the funniest I've read in ages. Thank you for that.

That's the point, but by this retards logic the fact that you watched all the Marvel movies makes you a movie expert, no it doesn't, movies, videogames, anime, it all works the exact same way and only a real autismo would watch/play everything that cames every "season".

>implying sincerity about the media one consumes is valued here

you are literally just redefining mainstream retard.

What exactly have I said that's funny?

Discord was a mistake.

This is why I welcome the lolicons, BL freaks, and yurishitters. But especially the lolicons. Normal people will always, always hate pedophiles, and letting the lolicons live among us peacefully repels the people who want to colonize Yea Forums. Shotacons fall under the same banner. If it's 2D? Go for it, you crazy bastards.

Stay hostile to those who would destroy you, Yea Forumsnonymous.

No I'm not, retard.

Normal people like pedophiles. It's the lolicons they don't like.

If you are actually older than me, which I seriously doubt, you should be ashamed for overreacting this hard to someone poking fun at your choice of hobbies especially when it's FUCKING ANIME of all things.

But everybody will recognize the big names. There are only few anime everybody can recognize.

Discord didn't existed in the 80s were anime became popular.

My dad knows pokemon and I'm almost 30

How old are you anyway? 60?

I have not overreacted, and he was not poking fun at me. He is a propaganda agent pretending to be an anime fan.

>FUCKING ANIME
Big surprise that you hate it too.

Older than you.

... you just wanted to piss me off right? Read nigga read.

Toonami-core stuff is so popular normalfags can recognize powerlevel hiding emblems and insignias. Kim Kardashian cosplayed as Zero Two while FrankXX was airing. I've had a long conversation with a guy at a punk show over Eva. He had Naota and Mamimi tattooed on his arms.

Two generations of Americans have grown up with anime on TV as ubiquitous as Western cartoons. In European and Latin American countries, certain normalfag shows are cultural institutions. Look at all the DBZ loving spics. Look at footballers wanting to be the Captain Tsubasa characters.

Most of the shows Yea Forums watch that aren't shounenshit are niche. Nobody gives a shit about cute girls doing funny things. And when a work catches on with normalfags, people on Yea Forums turn on it or it gets shitposted to death.

what the fuck man I'm not trash

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>He lets fans ruin things for him
>He cares about the general consensus and has it affect his enjoyment of something
o i am laffin. Quit being a bunch of faggots and just watch and read what you like.

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>normal people like pedophiles

user stop. Ask literally anyone you know in real life "Is it okay to kill pedophiles?", I will wait.

>He is a propaganda agent pretending to be an anime fan.
please take your pills

Ask people about the most popular shows on mal. Most people will have never heard of them.

If they don't like pedophiles then why do they watch pedo entertainment and demand more pedophiles to be brought into their countries?

I stated the truth. Why does that mean I should take pills? Explain yourself.

whoops, sorry. You sounded just as autistic as

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Autism does not exist.

>Why does that mean I should take pills? Explain yourself.
you are either on the autism spectrum or suffer from crippling schizophrenia if you genuinely believe any of the bullshit you've been preaching for the last 100+ posts

>Anime is niche.
Yeah just like how Rick and morty is niche.
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Oh, so you ARE samefagging. Listen, please just do what I asked you to do and ask a real person
>Hey, should it be a crime to kill pedophiles?
and you will figure this out for yourself.

Autism does not exist, and stating a fact is not a sign of schizophrenia.

Anime means more than battle shounen.

How in the fuck have I been samefagging? Or do you define samefagging as posting more than once in the same thread?

>Listen, please just do what I asked you to do and ask a real person
Real people watch pedo entertainment. Real people desperately want more pedophiles in their communities.

>shows some eceleb shit on youshit
ok faggot

The scene always changes; you either change with it, grow out of it, or die for it.

Living on the fringes on the scene doesn't make you better. Being a fan of a niche thing isn't an excuse for being a piece of shit. You're free to like what you like and do what you like, but you have no right to get mad when you're covered in shit and other people hold their nose at the smell.

Punks have been doing this shit for decades and it almost killed the scene.

Yes it does, dummy. Or do you want me to invent a new word just for you? Rustled-jimmies syndrome? "Hyperliteral aggressive faggot who can't detect sarcasm or make jokes" disorder?

>hey all apples are blue
>no they are red
>FUCKING SHIT I PROVE YOU WRONG
>but they are red
>LOOK THIS ARTICLE IN HERE YOU CAN SEE A BLUE APPLE
>but they are generally red
>FUCKING NORMALFAG THEY CAN BE BLUE
>but your point was that all of them were blue
>YOU ARE A MORON
>fuck you
>haha see, they are blue
Gotta love this kind of threads

No it does not. It's a Yea Forums buzzword.

>Ideas of reference and delusions of reference describe the phenomenon of an individual experiencing innocuous events or mere coincidences and believing they have strong personal significance.
>In psychiatry, delusions of reference form part of the diagnostic criteria for psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia, delusional disorder, bipolar disorder (during the elevated stages of mania), as well as schizotypal personality disorder

>being popular with big youtube personalities and big twitter types
This is exactly what I meant by , everyone is using a different definition of mainstream in this thread. Are big YouTubers and streamers mainstream? People think that a large part of their audience is children. Are Twitter accounts who aren't politicians or news outlets mainstream? Their tweets sometimes make it into news articles, but they are simultaneously "literal whos" to many people, especially on this board. Is Reddit mainstream? It's still common on Twitter and elsewhere to see people think that it's filled with nerds and incels but from the perspective of Yea Forums, it's "too mainstream". Our brains aren't good at processing what it really means to have 1 million subscribers, or 50k followers.

This thread is great just for the psychotic guy, I couldn't care less about the original topic at this point

I quoted someone else who was being hostile and annoying by accident, but it turned out to be you, user.

Anime is not mainstream lol

Stating facts is not a mental illness. What is wrong with you?

Anime has always cycled between mainstream and niche. It got big in 2014 with Attack on Titan and now it's getting big again with My Hero Academia. Soon it will start fading out of the mainstream again until something else comes along.

One punch man is seinen. And Rick and Morty is insanely popular. Other popular shows like SAO, Tokyo Ghoul and like are on par with other mainstream media.

What the hell are you talking about?

seek mental help

Fuck Japan.

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>being a poorfag
>in 20th century

OPM is just the adult version of battle shounen, and RM is not anime and has no relation to anime.

Explain how stating facts makes someone mentally ill.

The sky is blue, water is wet, and you are autistic, user. I'm schizophrenic myself. It's a neurological developmental disorder. I don't think you're psychotic because you're too coherent and don't resemble me enough. Therefore, you are most likely autistic,

Autism does not exist. How many times does this need to be stated?

That's what I'm saying. Rick and Morty is insanely popular. Way more popular than your avarege tv show or movie and OPM despite being shorter is on par with Rick and Morty.

nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/autism-spectrum-disorders-asd/index.shtml
there you go buddy

OPM is one of those few popular anime I have been talking about.

What's the difference between "losers" and "losers reddit"

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Wrong century, retard.
>on Yea Forums
>not torrenting anime
Go back

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Like mentioned already it depends on the title, almost everyone knows about Marvel movies just like almost everyone knows about the big shounen titles, less people have seen different movies acclaimed by the critic just like less people have seen different anime with good reviews, and very little people have seen movies because they were looking for something "out of the norm" just like very little people have seen anime because they were looking for something "out of the norm", that's how it works so anime is as mainstream as movies.

Ahaha, once again someone fell for this. You fuckers always keep droning on and on about how I'm autistic, yet every time you're challenged on the issue you refuse to define autism, refuse to make a detailed analysis of my posts proving that I have autism, refuse to provide professional credentials showing that you have any competency at diagnosing people over the internet, but when I say autism doesn't exist you get all defensive and suddenly start citing websites. Every time!

>Anime
>Niche
Are you retarded?

I did this in an incognito tab so that my history wouldn't influence but I don't think it worked.

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>newfags hating anime
honestly just fuck off, yeah i dont care if you've been here for 5 years or whatever the fuck you think is a long time, you're still a pathetic zoomer newfag, this site was set up to discuss anime

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Haha

Myopic will cloud your analysis. I've browsed few of the boards and Yea Forums has stayed roughly similar.

I did not lose my composure. I explained why you are full of shit.

What the fuck should I do? Crunchyroll's archive is shit. I can find anime dvds anywhere.

It means someone made a reddit thread with the title "anime is for losers" and people like to search for that exact post.

>Can't

no it hasn't

Whatever you do, don't listen to anyone who acts like a psycho on Yea Forums

>bro let me tell you about my secret underground hobby. yeah it's called anime and the normies hate it.

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And who is this "you" that you think you're talking to?

I've never interacted with you before outside of this thread, you just speak and behave like an autistic person. Some of my family members are autistic.

If lots and lots of different anons have had this discussion with you already, besides me... you're autistic AND stupid. Inb4
>only pretending to be retarded

They do hate it, with only a couple of exceptions. It's considered common sense among people that while OPM may be really cool, 99% of anime is some trash about little girls showing their panties in school and all of them are exactly the same.

>not supporting your favo studios
>not knowing jap
Ok

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youtube.com/watch?v=AQ3S2SlcZwo

All of you fucking idiots who pull the autism card the second you start losing an argument, or the second you even get into an argument.

>you just speak and behave like an autistic person
No I do not. You have no idea what autism is. You have no professional qualifications. You just blurt out "a-autism!" without any further thought, and for some reason you think that accusing someone of autism is some kind of argument.

>Some of my family members are autistic.
No they are not.

>If lots and lots of different anons have had this discussion with you already, besides me... you're autistic AND stupid.
Stupid people are those who think that something is true because many people say it.

Okay, so you're roleplaying as an autist then.

>playing yugioh
Christ, I remember playing Yugioh with my friend in absolute serious mode with all kinds of chuuni shit attached.

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No, I am not roleplaying as an autist. You are just very stupid.

My first search result. Pretty accurate

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Please just kill me

Why do black women like anime so much?

Hi user I'm the fake anime collection guy. Let me ask you a fucking question. How many people do you think watch anime in the world? As a hobby not just battle shounen. Just tell me a number.

The guy is kinda cringy but this is actually funny, if you didn't at least chuckle then you have no sense of humor

Autism Spectrum Disorder
Diagnostic Criteria
A. Persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across multiple contexts, as manifested by the following, currently or by history (examples are illustrative, not exhaustive, see text):

1. Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity, ranging, for example, from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back-and-forth conversation; to reduced sharing of interests, emotions, or affect; to failure to initiate or respond to social interactions.

2. Deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used for social interaction, ranging, for example, from poorly integrated verbal and nonverbal communication; to abnormalities in eye contact and body language or deficits in understanding and use of gestures; to a total lack of facial expressions and nonverbal communication.

3. Deficits in developing, maintaining, and understanding relationships, ranging, for example, from difficulties adjusting behavior to suit various social contexts; to difficulties in sharing imaginative play or in making friends; to absence of interest in peers.

Specify current severity: Severity is based on social communication impairments and restricted repetitive patterns of behavior. (See table below.)

Because they can try to imagine/ self insert themselves as slim attractive and cute watermelon magical girls

Fuck off already. Why are you still here? Why can't any of you shills ever just leave after you've been exposed?

cont'd
B. Restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities, as manifested by at least two of the following, currently or by history (examples are illustrative, not exhaustive; see text):

1. Stereotyped or repetitive motor movements, use of objects, or speech (e.g., simple motor stereotypies, lining up toys or flipping objects, echolalia, idiosyncratic phrases).

2. Insistence on sameness, inflexible adherence to routines, or ritualized patterns or verbal nonverbal behavior (e.g., extreme distress at small changes, difficulties with transitions, rigid thinking patterns, greeting rituals, need to take same route or eat food every day).

3. Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus (e.g, strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects, excessively circumscribed or perseverative interest).

4. Hyper- or hyporeactivity to sensory input or unusual interests in sensory aspects of the environment (e.g., apparent indifference to pain/temperature, adverse response to specific sounds or textures, excessive smelling or touching of objects, visual fascination with lights or movement).

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It went mainstream back in the mid 2000s, the only reason it became niche again is the massive self-inflicted wound it gave itself by pandering to completely socially unacceptable and pathetic things.
In order to secure the NEET/Hikki/loser fanbase it basically burned all bridges with normies.
Shows like K-On and Madoka being the most popular thing around when they aired were real watershed moments where any normie would find them instantly unpalatable in both looks and content, but someone far enough down the otaku rabbithole just sees them as another anime without those prejudices against what may seem creepy and possibly pedophilic. The era of Idolshit and CGDCT pretty much acted as a normie filter and now anime is niche again, and has probably an even worse reputation than it did back before it became popular in the early/mid 2000s

>Whoever says "I watch anime daily" would be casted off instantly
No you wouldn't , only if you act obnoxious about it, and the same would be true about any subject. Anyone that thinks they are being shunned for liking anime just don't want to admit they are being shunned for their personality.

You have no understanding of what autism is. You have no professional qualifications. We are talking anonymously over the internet. It's bad enough that you think "a-autism!!1" is an argument, but it's even worse when you double and triple down on it like this and get serious about it. Have you ever considerered not being a fucking retard who can't make arguments other than "a-autism!!1"?

Just answer the question. I'm not your enemy.

>I'm not your enemy.
Please stop. You are anti-anime. You are here posing as an anime fan to spread anti-anime propaganda. Of course you are the fucking enemy. You can't fool me no matter how many posts you make.

> the only reason it became niche again is the massive self-inflicted wound it gave itself by pandering to completely socially unacceptable and pathetic things.
>In order to secure the NEET/Hikki/loser fanbase it basically burned all bridges with normies.
This never happened.

>Shows like K-On and Madoka being the most popular thing around when they aired were real watershed moments where any normie would find them instantly unpalatable in both looks and content, but someone far enough down the otaku rabbithole just sees them as another anime without those prejudices against what may seem creepy and possibly pedophilic.
K-On is one of the best selling anime of all time. It aired on NHK and on the Disney channel.

You are incapable of interacting with me outside of your scripted one-liners, you have been extremely repetitive in replying to this thread, you meet multiple other criteria for the diagnosis based on your inability to pick up on emotional cues - eg, claiming that normies love pedophiles - and I am just the only person patient enough to try to talk to you.

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This was an interesting read. Reminds me of the image of the "degradation of a hobby"

>K-On and Madoka
Why did you use the two biggest hits with normalfags to make your point?

I even showed you my anime folder. What the fuck should I do to convince you?

I don't have any pre-scripted oneliners, and I am forced into repetition because of other people's repetition, like "a-autism!11." I don't meet any criteria for anything. You don't know what autism is and you have no qualifications. You are just a retard who can't argue worth shit.

>based on your inability to pick up on emotional cues - eg, claiming that normies love pedophiles
Explain to me why someone would watch pedo entertainment and petition the government to bring more pedophiles into the country if he himself is not a pedophile or in favor of pedophiles.

Your fake anime folder. We have fucking been over this already. You are goddamn retarded if you think you can still somehow talk your way out of this.

nah the problem with anime is that it doesnt have many long running shows that normies can watch for years, see normies need social validation before they watch something, which hits around the S3 point - way after most anime has ended already, and good luck trying to get normies to watch something thats not currently airing

You're just making shit up. Again, literally speak to another human being offline about this. If you think normal people love pedophiles then hating pedophiles is weird and counter-culture and in order to fit in you should vocally support pedophilia in public. Do it, if you believe what you're saying.

Human beings offline watch pedo entertainment and want pedos in their countries. They love pedophilia. This is fact.

Citation needed, faggot.

You are a fucking moron if you think there exists a convinient "citation" for every single thing a person could ever possibly say. And you're obviously very sheltered if you don't see all the support pedophilia gets.

No, you're literally saying something that can easily be proven false. I have told you more than once to conduct that experiment on your own, in real life, and told you how to do it, but you're arguing about it with me instead because you're a fucking autistic piece of shit with a subzero IQ

you are equally as big of a moron if you think you can make massive generalizations based on your limited social interactions with your fellow pedophiles while claiming that you're speaking "the truth"

This thread is just full of people who desperately want to be unique and special because their personality revolves around consuming Japanese animation.
"Oh boo-hoo, the normalfags are watching anime, MY anime."
"Guys, we GOTTA throw in more lolis to scare them away!" Grow the fuck up. These are probably the same faggots who will burn a thread down because someone dared discuss a show deemed to be a "Reddit" or "MAL"-show. You're a faggot of the highest degree if you use popular opinion to gauge your own personal enjoyment of an anime and/or manga. Think for yourself for once.

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No it's real. I can watch them.

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People watch pedo entertainment. People want pedophiles imported into their countries. And then there's child beauty pageants, the continued existence of the catholic church (a child raping organization), and the push to transgenderize children before they've even hit puberty.

But of course you don't know anything about any of this.

>a-autism
There it is again. The calling card of the retarded.

>your fellow pedophiles
I never said or implied anything that could in any possible way to suggest that I'm a pedophile. Conclusion: you are a pedophile and you are projecting.

And how does that make it real, you fucking retard? Anyone can fucking download anything on their computer and then go around claiming they're big anime fans. Why in the fuck are you still here and still desperately trying to convince me when I immediately spotted you for the fucking astroturfer that you are?

Okay, maybe you're not autistic. The only other options are that you're literally retarded or roleplaying an autist just to derail a thread. I gave you an experiment to perform. I've done it myself. I actually have friends and a social life. Normal people vocally support hunting and killing pedophiles if you ask them.
>the catholic church
>jews in media
Oh, okay. You're from /pol/. You're just fucking retarded.

anime is not niche. The last time it was even close to niche was the mid 2000s. After SAO came out and all these ironic nuweebs started showing up it was clear how mainstream it was

You don't know how to reverse search an image or inspect its metadata?
Fucking autistic newfaggots.

I am not retarded. YOU are retarded.

>Normal people vocally support hunting and killing pedophiles if you ask them.
And then they go watch their pedo shows and pedo movies and post on reddit about how we need more sand niggers to fuck our children to pieces. Such brave anti-pedophiles!

>the catholic church
They fuck boys on the regular. Everyone knows this.

>jews in media
I didn't say anything about jews, though... hmm!

Well my internet must be really fast then

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What the fuck does that have to do with anything you absolute brainlet? I am not saying your anime LITERALLY DOES NOT EXIST, I am saying that it doesn't mean anything because you created it for the sole purpose of making your cover identity seem more plausible.

>look guys I have all this anime, there's no way I could be an astroturfer!

Try not to spit on me when you talk, autist. You haven't performed the experiment because you know you're full of shit, but you can't admit it because you're a goddamn autist.

>there's no way I could have downloaded this in advance! that's just not possible!
Fuck off already.

>a-autism
You fucking idiot.

>You haven't performed the experiment
Putting aside that that's impossible, you haven't acknowledged the fact that people watch pedo entertainment, support pedo organizations and want more pedos in their countries.

Post your folder or shut the fuck up, lol. I'm not even that guy, you're just being retarded

i think we've established that he's at the very least in the early stages of schizophrenia

soon he'll be waking up in the middle of the night hearing voices calling his favourite anime shit

I want /pol/, Yea Forums, and Yea Forums to leave

The fuck does my folder have to do with anything here? I'm not the one pretending to be an anime fan, retard.

You haven't established jack shit, moron. I said nothing incorrect in that post.

Really? It's impossible for you to ask your mother if she thinks it's okay to kill pedophiles? Is she fucking dead?

We all do

It's impossible for me to start polling people on the topic of pedophiles at midnight on a weekday just in time to report the results on a Yea Forums thread that's autosaging. You fucking idiot.

she is sick, and I take care of her, please donate so I can keep translating manga

We all do, user. We all do.

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What the fuck should I do? How can I fake an anime folder anyway? The background is Yea Forums for fuck's sake

Nah you’re just a hipster douche.
Anime is far from niche in any sense of the word the word over, but you want to feel special enjoying a hobby few others do.
Protip: plenty of westerners hate and despise most contemporary western cinema and television, but that doesn’t mean this shit’s a niche.

Oh my fucking god you are dumb.

That's not what I fucking told you to do, you semantics-obsessed autist. I told you to go ask a real person.

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I'll be screencapping this post and bringing it up the next time I see you posting in one these threads. You better do your fucking homework, faggot.

Answer my question already.

Yes go ask a "real person" at midnight on a week day. And have a sample size of one or two people, because that's really useful and completely counters all the people who watch pedo entertainment, support pedo organizations and want nigger pedos in their countries.

You are a fucking retard.

The answer is that you are fucking stupid and should have stopped posting hours ago when I already busted you for being an astroturfer.

And you're an eastern Euroshitter slav with autism, yes, we've established that

I never said I'm a slav, and even if I was a slav that would not mean anything.

>a-autism
Retard.