Zeta is shit

how do I fucking watch Zeta after the masterpiece that is MSG/79? who cares about flashy animations when everything is fucking weird and doesn't make any sense
>kamille is fucking crazy and petty
>girl keeps following him, shouting like a lunatic and THAT is the thing that kick-starts the events of the series
>bright being beaten by the fucking federation and being made a little bitch when he's a fucking war hero
>char is not an elegant warrior anymore, but a 80's punk
also the movie trilogy is horrible, I want to kill whoever convinced me to watch it

despite all that, which release/subs should I watch, EG or ZetaRebel? I'm alternating both, but I'd like to know which one is more accurate

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EG.

Also Zeta is almost as good as 79, it at least has less boring repetitive plot-less episodes and less Amuro whining. Its highs are less high and some of the girls are annoying but its really pretty close to 79 in terms of how good it is.

That's not Char though.

>less Amuro whining
As if less Amuro is a good thing, user.

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>also the movie trilogy is horrible, I want to kill whoever convinced me to watch it
You wouldn't have thought this was a good idea if you weren't already brain dead. Don't tell me you watched the 0079 movies too.

I'm talking exactly about the MSG/79 recap movies. I watched them after finishing the MSG/79 series because some said they have new scenes and are a bit different. and they indeed are, but they are bad movies honestly. and lala's characterization in them is just awful
>too
what do you mean exactly?
>Its highs are less high
so the gundam franchise did peak with its first entry?
>less Amuro whining
I don't really mind Amuro, his emotional moments make sense. he's a very believable good-hearted teenager

Sorry but you have to be autistic to relate to most of the characters in zeta. Take it as an unintentional comedy and it work very well though. Also screw you Char looks rad as fuck in zeta, much better than his gay pirate costume in 0079.

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>char is not an elegant warrior anymore, but a 80's punk
But Char isn't in Zeta

The gay pirate costume is what made Char char-ming get it?

the animation in 0079 is better

If you think that's shit, wait till the fucking ending. I'm still annoyed about it.

That said, I find Camille is still better than fucking early Amuro

>AMUROI, CLEAN YOUR ROOM
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, WHY DOES EVERYONE TELL ME WHAT TO DO

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>highs are less high

If you want peak Gundam, watch some of the limited series like MS-Team or Stardust.

I think MS Team is still my favourite, just because of that Gouf fight.

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Kamille is great though
The only better Tomino protags are Cosmo and Show

>bright being beaten by the fucking federation and being made a little bitch when he's a fucking war hero
Are you retarded? How can you not tell the difference between the Federation and the Titans?

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But Amuro is his best protagonist.

Yeah, that was my thought too.
I hate Kamille and almost feel happy about his fate, alongside with Katz, fuck that brat.
Everyone says he is better than Amuro, but I never felt Kamille that trustworthy as Amuro at the end of 079

Amuro at the end of 79 is Gundam's best protagonist, but he's such a pain in the ass for hte other 45 episodes that it's almost not worth it.

And THEN, they just fucked him up in Zeta and made him a bumbling manchild again.

ZZ is better in literally every way. Worldbuilding, production design, animation, characters, story...

>They just fucked him up in Zeta
Really? Didn't felt that way. He had his issues about returning to action, but that's it
And I don't think is 45 episodes, he makes a huge improvement in the arc after Ryu's sacrifice

>>char is not an elegant warrior anymore, but a 80's punk
The worst part is that he is no longer an ace pilot and got turned into a jobber who can't shoot straight because only crazy autistic girls are allowed to shine.

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It feels like Kamille is one of the least OP Gundam protagonists but that might be because there are a lot of secondary antagonists keep sticking around.

>beaten by the fucking federation
Titans =/= Federation
>char is not an elegant warrior anymore
He was never. Quattro was a pragmatist.

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You just like MSG more despite the lower quality in art and animation because it’s the original and it does new-type stuff better.

> MSG 79
> masterpeice

it´s definitly better than zetrash, but it´s not even near to The origin wich is objectively the only great gundam.

which chart is the correct one?
no meme answer please

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>Turn A regarded by many as a low point
This is how I know it's the meme chart

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Kamille does have a very low named pilot killcount compared to other UC MCs. A lot of goons in Zeta survive for a big chunk of the show.

>a toy commercial is bad
Shocking stuff.

You started with talking about Zeta so I thought you were saying the Zeta movies were bad. Zeta has a trilogy of movies too.

I fucking hated MS Team and don't understand the hype.

Watch Turn A and SEED, then decide for yourself.

Strong disagree mate. Kamille character development is great and he's one of the most well written Gundam protagonist. Chars role as an Anti-Hero is pretty cool. Zeta Gundam gave us the best girls as well.

The story is decent imo.

The movie trilogy is a mixed bag tho.

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>watching zeta
>not based ZZ

jesus op, fuck off

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Kamille is one the strongest newtypes in the series. He only becomes OP very late in the series.

>this is what kamiyuufags believe

the strongest newtype is uso

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I pray you are not watching the Zeta complimation movies, because those make absolutely zero sense pacing wise compared to the tv series.

Also Zeta is a masterpiece, and I don't know what is wrong with you. It is the most perfect followup to original MSG there ever could be.

Everything past it is questionable, however.

Yeah, in the mirror world where everything is the opposite of ours.

To be fair, Turn A is great, but it takes like 14 episodes to get it's gears all in place.

ZZ is filled with blatant character assassination and Tomino not giving a fuck about ZZ after CCA got greenlit

Lel, canon strongest is Judau Ashta

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I love how the ZZ itself is basically just "I'm you, but stronger" version of the Zeta.

Feels like ZZ show itself was only made to sell leftover Zeta kits, as most the main suits in the show are re-used like the Hyaku Shiki and stuff like that.

>be judau
>old as fuck
>come to space uso with newtype autist colonies
>get fucked by a simple strongest newtype who isn't even spacenoid who is so badass with the sheer force of training from his papa and mama

fucking hell, Uso is the best protagonist of UC

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Kamille is the best part of Zeta. He only really starts as a brat, but he grows well later on. I prefer him over Amuro as a protagonist
But Zeta as a whole is a bit of a mess. Especially the closer it gets towards the end. Kamille's character was the only part that kept me engaged really.
But that is easily forgotten when what came after is the awful ZZ, anything looks like a masterpiece after that.

>sheer force of training from his papa and mama
Interesting.
Judau revived zero combat training and still managed to do a bloody good job in an outdated MS early in the show.
Uso had all the advantages, elite EFF team backing, cutting edge technology, combat training from his parents and the militia...
Not impressed. I think Ashta did well, considering he was just a poor kid working the scrapyard to pay for his sisters schooling.

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