I just marathoned this, wish I had read it with Yea Forums when it was ongoing. 10/10 except for this bullshit that literally came out of nowhere and for no reason, Anima's reaction says it all. >the cutest, prettiest and hottest girl besides the goddess not only lost the bowl but went to fatso who didn't even lose any weight but put on more instead >she's now closing to 35 without kids and just married little over a year ago when a worthy man would have tied the knot and put the fist baby in her before she hit 30 even Them aside >Mikazuki and Subaru are not even officially dating and she's almost cake age
And narrative purpose aside, couldn't Anima just cure Samidare's illness with magic by the end? Either as a reward or for free ("service") since she wanted to live by the end.
It also went over my head that Master was the reincarnation of Animus.
That said, I can't believe neither this nor Spirit Circle got anime adaptations even though they are some of the best stories out there all the while a bunch of arguably worse series get adapted every season. I believe of the mangaka's works only Planet With made it into the medium and that seems to be something else altogether.
There's nothing wrong with the cat knight. He was the most reliable guys on the team.
Zachary Perry
They're cute together, and you can't really complain about this if you aren't going to complain about The Invisible power transfer during the final battle. Things happen inexplicably sometimes, and both of these things were great.
Jayden Rivera
Its a shame Spirit Circle in particular was never animated, 1 cour and very few VAs would be enough since you could recycle between lives.
Also cat knight was a best dude, he carried them so hard through the end game
Camden Bennett
He should hit the gym. >Most reliable I think that would be Nagumo (horse knight)
Caleb Harris
I haven't been on Yea Forums in a few years, any friends from the Spirit Circle/Sengoku Youko TL threads still around? Do crunchyroll Planet With chapters ever get dumped here? Has it become confirmed part of the multiverse yet? Its pretty good but i don't typically like the hero/mech genre. Kinda feels like Hoshi no Samidare in reverse.
Liam Evans
>he carried them so hard through the end game >Wasn't effective against the 10th >one-shoted the 11th by the third try or so >Not much to mention against the 12th >Tanked Animus some I think the carries were Samidare (when present) and the little girls, and mythic Yayoi was solid too, but it was mostly a team effort, as it should be.
Kevin White
>I believe of the mangaka's works only Planet With made it into the medium and that seems to be something else altogether. That was made to be anime to begin with, the manga is a plus. It's pretty good, but there are obvious limitations to it - CG, animation in general and sound design being what's most complained about
Tyler Hughes
>Invisible >Clearly visible I know the translated name was sketchy with the bird, what mythological creature did the lizard reference? Some dragon going by the snake it seems.
Isaiah Garcia
I figure the mangaka just doesn't want his material to get animated. That's the only reason I can think of for why nothings been animated yet even though he's had several successful, popular series.
Josiah Young
I wish I could appreciate this as much as Yea Forums does
But to me Spirit Circle is just so much more compelling, reading biscuit hammer afterwards was a huge disappointment
Jackson Morales
Seinen to shounen friendo. Always gonna disappoint.
Oliver Foster
I read this after SC too and while I agree SC is better overall, I loved this one all the same. I also appreciate that the ending didn't have the part I disliked about SC's, that's them forgetting about it all like it was a dream.
Asher Stewart
A shame since TV would benefit from these great stories. Most TV anime is made to promote the source and often while it's ongoing so it either turns out incomplete or with an original end.
Nathan Torres
Aren't they both seinen?
Asher Stewart
I love all of them. Spirit Circle is probably the most consistent one, but they're all amazing.
Charles Wilson
Cat carried the team hard.
David Long
Another case of best girl made to lose and suffer. The lack of doujins (with her) is nothing short of criminal.
I feel like Fuuta died a virgin several times as far as we know.
Mason Brown
>they are some of the best stories out there all the while a bunch of arguably worse series get adapted every season. Because it is not that good.
Henry Parker
I'd say it's better than most battle shounen, most battle school harem, most isekai, most CGDCT, and most ecchi that do get adapted though. It's also quite accessible too.
Luke Roberts
Is it? I think both Spirit and Biscut has such small niche that most studio just does not care enough to animate it.
Colton King
I've dreamed about a Spirit Circle/biscuit hammer adaptation done by the KyoAni team that did Nichijou.
Ethan Sanchez
>the fuck is this >the fuck is that
Henry Watson
this manga is so boring I really don't see what you guys like so much about it NOW SPIRIT CIRCLE now that is the shit
Eli Gonzalez
If I recall correctly, there were plans for a Biscuit Hammer anime but they fell through because there were licenses around all of the Pillows song names. And they just didn't want to do it without that. The others have problems being adapted due to their length and what studios prefer to have for anime lengths nowadays. Not that this has stopped other adaptations.
There was Planet With, but that was planned to be an anime from the beginning.
literally everybody came through when it mattered. hippo knight did at least his fare share in the end, but his earliest attempts sucked, and he also contributed zero direct combat value and was a bit of a liability on the battlefield as such.
Kevin Fisher
>incarnation of Animus Wait really? That completely flew over my head.
Different series and he wasn't a pseudo goddess cute girl wishing for love. Most of his reincarnations weren't at least.
Luke Ward
Been awhile since I've been into the Mizuverse but wasn't she a reincarnation of Samidare?
John Diaz
Fuuta? I read Spirit Circle first so the references if any didn't register but I don't think so, same goes for Koko. Anima is the future descendant of Samidare's older sister Hisame, and she stated that the animals and herself wouldn't reincarnate as Yuuhi's children at least.
Benjamin Long
Spirit Circle, Sengoku Youko Spirit Circle, and several other works by Mizukami all share the same universe and system of karma and reincarnation. I guess I just assumed that Anima was Samidare's reincarnation at some point even if it hadn't been explicitly stated
I did not like the ending of Spirit Circle, it was too quick and the gods playing around left a bad taste
Haven't finished sengoku youko even though translations finished 3 years ago
Hudson Gray
Its a shame because both biscuit hammer and spirit circle could benefit a lot from an anime adaptation, their simplistic artstyle would be pretty easy to animate and they have just the right length to be a two cour and a one cour show respectively. In the other hand i would also be fine with just getting more shows with scripts and designs from the same guy, planet with was really nice
I feel like all of his series have really great "FUCK YEAH" moments like Amamiya Yuuhi training his power to be able to fight the other knights all at once, or the Fortuna reveal of what a crazy dick he is, or the Barry vs. Takekichi (how do I remember all these names of characters from series I haven't read in years when I can barely remember the main characters from Harem of the Season no.9999?) fight with Arabuki coming to terms with the world
But his endings always feel like a letdown after the massive buildup, somehow when the story hits the climax and then falls it feels like it falls really hard.
Jace Campbell
Sengoku Youko started kinda slow (imo I just don't like Jinka as a lead that much) but it's a great ride later on, nice fights too
Jackson Young
I think someone said something similiar about watching Air/Kanon after Clannad.
Jaxson Ward
>sengoku youko How does it compare with the other 2? Being 99 chapters long it is over twice the length of Spirit Circle and a bigger investment, and it seems to be based on feudal Japan and youkai mythos? It also came before starting in late 2007.
Different from his other works since it has a main character shift part of the way through, I suppose you could call it a two-parter. The second part started off weaker than the first part I think, since the first part had weaker characters fighting no holds barred duels but the second part seemed to expand powerlevels upwards to account for introducing more powerful villains at the end of the first part.
It has a foxgirl though, and her mom.
Ryder Campbell
Jinka didn't really feel like lead as much as Takekichi, I wouldn't even remember Jinka's name without your post. He felt more like a plot device to push the story along, with Takekichi's own development from poser peasant to serious swordsman being the more interesting arc.
Thomas Wilson
Powerlevel wise it's mostly the same. Only the two leads power up exponentially Dragon man literally just slept between the two parts and he remains almost top tier
Thomas White
>best knight For me it is snek cosplayer, closely followed by tomboy. >most GAR loli You mean girl, since she becomes even better as an adult. Pic very much related.
Read Saijin Sadou to get a feel for the content, since Sengoku Youko is technically a prequel. >Shinsuke >Serious swordsman His talents were as a medium though. If we're talking swordmen no one even comes close to the shogun (remember that 6pg spread? fucking badass). But yeah he was truly the star of the manga, as much as they tried to push Jinka and Senya on you.
Senya has to convince his demons to fight cohesively and then convert them to Buddhism Jinka first learn to use his eye, then he just pull tails out his ass until he pulls out too many
Benjamin Sullivan
>this translation is from 9 years ago
I remember people wondering when the middle school girls would die and were treating the manga like it was Berserk with characters dropping left and right. Then most of the characters ended up living.
Brandon Clark
Fairy eyes are Mizukami's standby deus ex machina
Liam Watson
His series' final acts are denouements; those are always kind of slow and chill.
Hudson Davis
The tone shift is too abrupt, his stories would benefit from an explosive ending instead of a wrap up where everyone discusses their future plans over coffee and donuts.
Joseph Allen
>Explosive ending That's what the climax is, user. His endings are essentially epilogues to wrap up emotional stuff
Quiet wrap-ups are how a lot of actual books do things.
Owen Perry
I actually really liked both the ending of this and SC, with the catharsis or closure and all that.
>explosive ending Anything specific in mind? Like did you expect Samidare to actually destroy the Earth? That would go against what was being built upon and shock for the sake of it is no good really. The fight against The Magus, the knights and against Lucifer were all amazing for the climax really.
Carson Campbell
>MC passed on this adorably sexy dork I tire of your bullshit, Japan. Spirit Circle bests it in that it set the best girl to win from the get go.
>instead of a wrap up where everyone discusses their future plans over coffee and donuts. That's literally the best part. I want to know what happens to the characters that I came to enjoy over the course of the work. After spirit circle ended I was praying for some kind of college-life omake but to no avail. I guess we ended up seeing their future to some extent (albeit a trillion reincarnations later/prior)
Jordan King
desu I think it's better to leave it open after we are shown the entirety of his other lives
officially, and from a writing standpoint, sure. But i mean throw me 4koma idk
Ayden Turner
Nagumo was incredibly based and I like the fact that a 40 old man was the leader of the squad
Nathan Butler
It really did seem like a lot of people would die. Even Yuuhi's dad died after his wish. Very strong scene btw
Zachary Wilson
Hoshi no Samidare > Spirit Circle > Sengoku Youko > Planet With
Colton Cooper
Thing about killing characters is it's incredibly inefficient, narratively. In order for a death to matter, you have to invest time building them up. Further more, it's more tragic when there's something that's now no longer possible with their death. From them accomplishing something personal to relationships and so on. Killing a character is a microcosm of cancelling a series. There's also the danger of doing it too much and it stops working as well. Unless the entire point is a series about death and tragedy, not so much the visceral impact of individual deaths.
Spirit Circle doesn't work if you kill too many people, it fundamentally changes the kind of tone and atmosphere of the story which is heavily involved in growing past traumas and living your life. But a few deaths also help reinforce that theme. So it has to thread the needle, walk that line, of just enough character death. That fear, that proven potential, helps keep the tension up during the story's run.
It's telling that Berserk is known for the end of the Golden Age, but since then the dynamic has not really been repeated. Even the side characters seem to be unkillable nowadays. The dynamic is incredibly different. Something similar has happened to Vinland Saga: the series have had their cake and ate it too. They're defined by their body counts but ultimately don't seem like they're actually going to fucking murder everyone any more.
Yeah, he did nothing wrong, which didn't matter 10 seconds after anyway.
Nolan Scott
It's a great ride, if you like the other two then absolutely read it.
David Walker
At least he's consistent
Connor Rodriguez
Snek a shit
Austin Nguyen
Planet With should tell you otherwise user. The whole project was basically his publisher giving him a blank chenk to make a single cour series about anything he wants. They approached him with it while he was finishing up Sengoku Youko and they told him the offer would always be there waiting for him until he's got something ready hence that 1000 page draft. He's always wanted an anime and his top pick to adapt is Psycho Staff as a feature length movie. The main reason his stuff doesn't get adapted:
>They're long-runners >They're completed >His publisher doesn't greenlight anime adaptations often >As much as they love him and his works, nobody, not even Mizukami himself, believes that adapting his works will be financially sound investments >Also, none of the overseas english licenses for his works have turned out to be profitable so they can't exactly count on international fans for support
It all comes down to economics. The rumored Newtype interview about Gainax adapting Biscuit Hammer is fake news and he's never been interviewed by them. Rather than any particular series of his getting adapted, pic related is the most likely work to get adapted given how it's gotten a particular director's attention.
It took me some time to read Spirit Circle after Lucifer but I really loved it as much, for slightly different reasons. Don't drop it at the first chapter that makes it look like it's gonna be schoolshit.
>wanting animeonlyfags to ruin something you enjoy
Evan Morales
>the cutest, prettiest and hottest girl besides the goddess not only lost the bowl but went to fatso who didn't even lose any weight but put on more instead Fuck you, cat guy was awesome.
Dylan Wilson
This. He should go to the gym tho, even GAR LOLI does
I don't know about visually, but that moment in Sengoku Youko with all the demons realizing they can literally bullshit their way through inner mind battles is peak Mizukami meaningful anti-climax. Also the power of cooperation.
Well obviously that's a bit different. You can kill hordes of nobody background characters, but it'll never count as much as killing a single named character with an established role and relationships.
>I can't believe neither this nor Spirit Circle got anime adaptations even though they are some of the best stories out there all the while a bunch of arguably worse series get adapted every season. Because it sucks.
Hunter Fisher
Honestly Into the Void is so good it deserves to be expanded into a full-fledged sci-fi series. Because of the story's concept it can literally span across generations like some serious sci-fi, especially if it's about their journey back to Earth.
Adam Sanchez
I started reading biscuit hammer because of this thread and all the other threads I’ve seen talking about this manga, and I have a question. When does it get good? I’m at chapter 18 right now and quite frankly I can’t stand Yuuhi and Samidare
Dominic Johnson
It gets good somewhere between doggo's big moment and the introduction of the entire cast
Justin Price
Dog Knight was the most likable character so far. It kinda pisses me off that Yuuhi is all broken up about his death yet when he was alive all Yuuhi did was plot against him. I came into this manga thinking the “heroine is actually a villain” angle would make for a fun read, but all it has done so far is irritate me
Blake Campbell
>Yuuhi is all broken up about his death yet when he was alive all Yuuhi did was plot against him That's the point. Despite going for the "end the world" plot and being suicidal, Yuuhi is human and being around people actually gets him to care.
The villain makes for a good selling point but it's not really the best part of this story imo
Jose Foster
>The villain makes for a good selling point but it's not really the best part of this story imo I was ready to drop the manga, but if you say it gets better I’ll take your word for it
Alexander Thompson
is that the bashful cosplay lady? she was an absolute 11/9 no gods or kings tier
Luis Jackson
Felt the same, it doesn't get good until the whole cast is introduced.
Benjamin Campbell
I think it's more memorable as standalone story. You could Dunkirk it with Earth MC, "Defeatist" MC and Current MC's perspectives. Splice in scenes of all three "growing up" for the first third of the film with little discrepancies cluing in audience that not all is at seems with Saro kidnapping be the act change point and have Current MC be the predominant one.
We get a second pass of the transition to pilot with "Defeatist" just being led to the cockpit peacefully via recordings and have him on his deathbed much earlier causing him to order neesan to give the coming ones a happy life and to stop Saro in the second act to show Current MC how many generations this has gone on for.
For the third act have Earth MC's later scenes with Saro spliced in the extended final battle to enforce what's at stake for everyone and spend the last 15 minutes in a slow wrap-up with a new scene of Saro thanking MC for finishing it as he heads to his room. For kino points, have the robot travel through space by literally walking with heavy heartbeat-like steps and overlay the sound of that steadily weakening with his own for these last scenes.
Asher Campbell
Imo it was good with doggo. First volume is pretty sloppy, just compare Yuuhi's backstory in vol 1 with Yuuhi's backstory being developed a bit later with far more substance and maturity
I love that art style in the middle panel, is it sumi-e?
Juan Morales
>Samidare thread >Inevitably it gets filled with Spirit Circle fags
Evan Smith
they're both as great
Brandon Perry
Read Sengoku Youko next, Biscuit Hammer is great but I honestly think Sengoku is Mizukami's masterpiece.
Dylan Roberts
>hambeast apologists He was just the drone and training dummy guy, he did little himself in the battlefield. I only can account for him helping crow to human shield the little girls for the last stretch in the very final battle. Without his drones he can do nothing, and Anima took their powers away after. The dude was pretty undeveloped character-wise besides his initial and short interaction with Animus too, mostly serving as a foil.
>MC trained >middle aged Nagumo trained >crow trained >dog trained >mouse didn't I think but he wasn't overweight >old man swordfish trained >even owl kid beat a mini golem on his own and started training post timeskip >snek sword lady trained >even one of the little girls fucking trained There is no reason for him not to hit the gym at least to pull his own fucking weight, and not die early, yet he got even fatter post timeskip instead. It's a bad joke from the author that Yayoi married him while the other couples actually did get established through the story even if that was not the main focus.
From my understanding, Master wasn't a incarnation of Animus, Animus went back 500 years in time and granted master the power to help fix his wrong deeds.
Jason Smith
>Without his drones he can do nothing Neither can most of the knights except the ones specializing in CQC. Fatty was all brains and it worked out. He was a strong person all the way through and resisted Animus, what's not to love?
Alexander Russell
>Fatty was all brains This. He knew minmaxing would be the way to go. Working out would have taken too long to get meaningful results verses making better golems. His training was inventing new golems, which he was doing in most of his scenes.
Mason Fisher
Funny enough, I also started Biscuit Hammer a few days ago and just finished it.
Samuel Thompson
>you will never experience reading through Shinsuke senbei's despair and catharsis the first time ever again ;_;
So who is the best main girl between Tama, Samidare and Kouko?
David Evans
Sami > Kouko
Bentley Jackson
I didn't read SY, but between Sami and Kouko, definitively Kouko, not only design-wise but she's a co-protagonist and very involved through all the story, while Sami has much less screentime since the cast is bigger and it all revolves around Yuuhi instead.
Caleb Martin
It was so refreshing that a team of very powerful central antagonists actually had virtually no direct attack abilities and they were overpowered thanks to their spiritual interference techniques that could fuck you up regardless of how powerful you are.
Elijah Howard
Sami = Kouko >> Tama. Tama was okay, but not that interesting, while both Princess and Kouko were great.
Aiden Howard
*grandpa
His dad was a detective who died young, so his grandpa put him through some fucked up psychological training to discourage him from taking up any career which might endanger his life
Wyatt Gomez
He should've lifted -after- the crisis passed, he had 10 years for getting in decent shape and not risking dying early from being overweight.
>what's not to love? He was cool until >author forcing fat dicking the 11/10 that's Yaako Not even Shimaki's fault, just poor taste and form on the mangaka as a last minute joke and resolution without any lead-in or sense.
Kevin Hill
>everything about Shisuke >Tama and Jinka's asshole couple dynamic and bizarro pseudo incest roleplay both of them clearly got off to >Senya's development and acceptance of his own nature and enormous lifespan, his relationships with his demon army >tons of fantastic side characters like Ashikaga and Douren Sengoku had some pacing problems but it also has probably the greatest heights of any of his works and some of the best characters. I wish we got an adaptation but some of the fights are so fucking ridiculous only Bones can probably give it justice.
Nicholas Rodriguez
They weren't gods iirc and they weren't playing around, they were helping the wayward spirit back on track.
Justin Moore
Tama was interesting though. She just had less personal issues than those two because she is like five times older than both of them. Such a combination of energetic tomboyish traits with life experience and some deeply rooted insecurities related to her life and mother is extremely fucking rare for a main girl.
Robert Powell
In Spirit Circle and Biscuit Hammer both Fortuna and the Princess give up at the end. The bad guy was never all that bad, just confused, and gives up. It's a let down. Fortuna doesn't say "an unexpected thing happening proves that this world is better off destroyed and remade with me running the show" he just decides that he's glad that fate changed a little and gives up multiple lifetimes of plotting.
Landon Brown
>I wish we got an adaptation but some of the fights are so fucking ridiculous only Bones can probably give it justice. Or worse, any studio with 3dcg experience.
>and Sengoku Youko fags But all are welcome, we wouldn't have these many posters without all the Mizuverse, and I am glad some anons got to find out about it and pick them up some.
James Gutierrez
Them meeting in college and holding hands would be enough for me.
Ian Wilson
>I can’t stand Yuuhi and Samidare I liked them from the get-go but I couldn't stand it whenever she said "I'm gonna destroy the world with my own two hands". It gets an explanation eventually but it felt like such a stupid LARPer line throughout the story that I could never take it seriously until the final arc .
Jayden Jackson
How does she manage to be she such a 10/10 through all her reincarnations?
Matthew Nelson
That was a great read, just like Spirit Circle. Just wanted to say it here.
I don't think the story is expecting you to take it totally seriously. The fact that she doesn't do it in the end is completely expected from the beginning.
But the interesting part is finding out why she wants to it it and then how she changes her mind, with maybe some tension where you're like "Will she really do it?"
If it was a story about a girl who wants to destroy the world and then does that it'd be really boring.
Isaiah Bennett
Anyone else read Biscuit Hammer while listening to the Pillows? I did and I think it improved my experience by at least twicefold. Also reading the lyrics to some of the songs made me appreciate some moments in the manga even more, for example the Blues Drive Monster reveal, in which Yuuhi says "Up there in the sky, is there only despair? If it's now, you should all be able to see it", that's a weapon that only those with hope can see, yet in the song with the same name by the pillows, the Biscuit Hammer is the device that can destroy this "melancholy world of ours". So the weapon in the manga can be seen as a direct response to the song.
Daniel Jones
desu I like Douren’s way to deal with them more >Void tribe turns into 3 Jinun >whatever come at me bro >they all fuck off instantly
Angel Myers
This was such an optimistic finale for Senya's story.
>Tribe of the Void mind controls Jinun and tells him to fuck shit up >He ignores their orders just to fight Douren again >Giant cloud demon takes human shape just to get closer and watch That shit was great.
Stuff just happens man. Shared experiences can create love, and Cat was smart, kind, capable, talented, etc. Snek knew for sure she wouldnt bang Yuuhi, so she probably hanged around him and after a few drinks started getting conflicting feelings. Its not that difficult to imagine.
I never knew about the Pillows references in Biscuit Hammer.
Some say to this day he still wanders the land.
Biscuit Hammer was hard to get into at first because the way Samidare and Yuuhei act was cringe inducing. It was the worst kind of chuuni was how I saw it. It got a lot better once the story really got going and the whole cast was introduced, there was simply less time for their shit. Sengoku Youko was hard to get into because Jinka a shit and it wasn't clear where the story was going. Thankfully the end of the first part was climactic enough to hook you for the rest. The second half is fucking amazing.
Mizukami has some great designs for his girls. Like grown up Tama is just fucking delicious, same with post time skip GAR loli.
Tyler Miller
>because Jinka a shit Jinka being a total shithead to everyone other than Tama and them being shitheads together is the best thing about the part 1.
Brandon Reed
>Not Shinsuke's edgy sword persona that he created telling him to stop being a faggot and enjoy the free sky
Benjamin Martinez
That has only got a real payoff near the end of the whole arc. Jinka was entertaining since the beginning and his prequel chapter with Tama is really good.
So you listen to the Pillows for Biscuit Hammer and Japanese Folk for Sengoku Youko, but what's the go-to soundtrack for Spirit Circle?
Asher Russell
I don't understand why Mizukami adds these designated loser girls, it happened in Spirit circle too and it adds next to nothing, the reason she fell in love was stupid too.
Tyler Long
Well why not? Sengoku Youko has the snow girl Senya friendzone too
Hudson Parker
Snow girl has virtually infinite amount of time to woo Senya so i wouldn't call her a loser just yet.
Ryder Torres
I feel like Planet With suffered from having a low production value anime, I remember the few manga chapters I read being way better looking than the animated version.
Kevin Peterson
I found Spirit Circle was more consistently good than Samidare (which has some rough spots IMO) but it's highs aren't quite as high.
Ayden Bailey
How was Planet With finally?
I never watched more that a couple chapters and I dont know where to read the manga besides crunchyroll
Connor White
No the pillows are literally Japanese Green Day they're sellouts who have been writing the same pop-rock mid-tempo disgusting drivel for 20 years and they were lucky FLCL pushed them so hard otherwise they would've died long ago.
Joshua Cooper
I listened the hell out of Jabberloop reading Biscuit Hammer for the first time and was one hell of a ride
It had some good twists and moments but the side cast wasn't as strong as his other works. I'd hope the manga expands on them a bit.
Kayden Brooks
>tama abandoning Shinsuke while he's unconscious literally 30 seconds after escaping pre-time skip the definition of a cunt
Jose Brooks
It's honestly my least favorite of Mizukami's works (not counting his random oneshots and amateur work), but an overall alright experience. I haven't read the Crunchyroll releases of the manga, but I don't think it can improve the anime's plot enough to make it compete with Sengoku Youko, Spirit Circle, or Biscuit Hammer.
John Howard
I mean, can you blame her. Jinka was the second good thing that happened in her entire life and they were barely holding off from fucking like rabbits all the time.
You introduced me to that band on another Samidare thread. Thank you user
Nathaniel Wood
Nono was interesting though because of the journey took >daughteru soul decides in her next life she wants to fuck the female version of her dad Shinsuke got both girls in the end (well, one got him) and he also spent his life with the cat girl too.
>the bowl >implying go back shipping faggotry is for tumblr
Luis Clark
I liked Nono, but having her like him didn't serve much of a purpose, though I think her case was better than silver haired girl in samidare.
Bentley Peterson
I read through Biscuit Hammer during the height of my time on Yea Forums many years ago and maybe because of that and the time surrounding it, this is my favourite manga. Maybe it's not as good as some of Mizukami's other works, but it has a special place in my heart.
Angel Price
I think all 3 of his big works are fucking amazing in their own right for different reasons.
Oliver Brown
The TL threads for spirit circle/sengoku youko were super fun. We'd all sperg over tiny easter eggs and shit that linked the two to other mizukami works. I remember there was that user that posted the entire series before the final chapter came out too.
This shit was not only standard shounen shit, it was standard boring shounen shit. The Last time Yea Forums has tricked me into reading shit.
Leo Campbell
From everything I've gathered by being in Mizukami threads over the years; the first work of his you read is your favorite. Everyone still manages to love Samidare, Spirit Circle, and Sengoku regardless of what their particular favorite is though. It's a fucking crime none of those are animated Spirit Circle is entirely seinen. All of his series have seinen traits but Samidare is at its core a battle manga with seinen aspects.
Thomas Myers
Tamas part 2 design is fucking elder god tier jesus fuck
Dominic Wilson
then what is it?
Liam Thompson
>got pumped with so much of Jinka's spirit juice it forced her body to mature Shame we never see her design after the last timeskip, she is probably as gorgeous as her mother.
Angel Gonzalez
>princess shown to have hulk strength >doesn't take her threat seriously
Julian Perry
>I don't think the story is expecting you to take it totally seriously. Mizukami's manga in a nutshell.
Ethan Hall
I'm pretty sure she just wanted to larp and if worst came to worst she'd be unable to kill all her friends.
Leo Phillips
I disliked senya as whole. He never really had much struggle.
Brody Rogers
They were absolutely chuuni, except for the fact she could actually get away with destroying the world. Even Animus was a bit freaked out at Sami.
he was a reincarnation. he said himself "i want to be an all knowing person next." and that he would need 500 years to make up for what he'd done(master was 500)
Asher Cox
This. Though there was some kind of god involved, and it could be master connecting with his past life memories.
Luis Morgan
>He thinks he's just getting off with 500 years lol
It served to show that the MC was based and went on a date with a girl that asked him out instead of spilling the spaghetti.
Nathan Johnson
She was there to illustrate how fucked up Yuuhi is at the start. He basically can't relate to a normal person and spends the entire date thinking about Samidare before considering killing her to get rid of the issue.
David Miller
>mutant fused school priest
which one is that?
Henry Jackson
After the 8 years timeskip, yeah. He did struggle with fighting morals and his demons' dragon PTSD Jinun caused
Xavier Edwards
Biscuit hammer had the neat gimmick of the main characters trying to destroy the world and at first i really hoped they would and would have called an asspull if i had known they world would not get destroyed. but as you read the manga and fall in love with the characters and see them grow and learn to love you start to think it might not be so bad if the world survives. until the final battle where yuuhi convinces Samidere not to end the world and she accepts and cries and you cry with her, cause your also happy that the characters will get to continue growing and living and loving.
Hunter Hernandez
I mean, every one of the knights had a bullshit specialization, if you think about it him not having one yet was the weird part.
Well yeah, the common thing for their stories is that their motive for big deeds were small, personal things. The protagonists hit them in their weak spot because they knew that personal stuff.
Mason Peterson
Sengoku Youko, Yazen. Fits with White God's Child.
Jeremiah Rivera
The problem is that I don't believe a guy who murdered tens of thousands of people and then used them as skeleservants and then wanted to kill everyone ever to become a god would just give up because something unexpected happened
Hunter Gonzalez
What the hell I read Biscuit Hammer like 7 years ago now and this thread made me realize I don't remember anything at all I loved it at the time and it was my first manga I dropped Youko after a few chapters though Spirit Circle is probably my favorite Thanks for reading my blog
That's the trick edgy/kill 'em all fiction tends to do; kill off a bunch of nobodies, a secondary/tertiary character or two, then let the primary characters live.
Luke Gutierrez
So tribe of void were definitely people from Lafalle's earth right?
Owen Lopez
Why the FUCK isn't there an Anima Dakimakura?
David Morris
Are they? Tribe of void manipulate fate and get constant disasters as punishment, Lafalle's people manipulate souls but their declining population aren't punishment according to Fortuna
Owen Peterson
Can someone explain who the animals were? Were they Anima's creations? She said they will all re-enter the reincarnation cycle so it sounds like they were humans in the past lives. If that's the case then how could she have the power to reincarnate them as animals and keep them in the game?
Kayden Davis
No, that was actually consistent. Fortuna only truly cared for a select few people, and only those people could make him deviate from cold autistic scientist. The future for him had him lose family members, but Yuuta's future allowed him to reconcile with the first family he had, by proxy through Yuuta.
Camden Howard
Are you autistic? Have you ever been fulfilled in your life?
People do grand things for simple, personal reasons. The mangaka's driving theme is "challenges are overcome with the heart".
Anthony Morales
Crazy psychic powers, not unlike how Animus keeps making hammers and travelling back in time.
Jordan Hughes
Do the nihonmatsu siblings have any connection to sengoku youko charas? Nobody finished translating iirc otherwise it wouldn't have really been a reveal to show them in lab coats, in the chapter that came out right around the end of spirit circle
I read Hoshi no Samidare in one sitting starting at around 7pm and finishing around 8am. It was a hell of a ride. First and only time I ever pulled something like that. It was worth it though.
Ayden Jackson
How do I read this, where do I start?
Michael Davis
Yeah, but in Animus' case it's inanimate matter. The animals have been stuck in the game for a while since they remember losing the previous times. That would mean that she kept them in some limbo state rather than allowing them to reincarnate.
The closest Animus came to that was number 11, but even then it was something that was self aware.
Brody Cook
Mikazuki just throws rocks
Caleb Murphy
This makes me think, what if we were samidere the whole time?
Jaxon Myers
>Marry rockfu >Sleep with bakeneko >Be dragged into the realms of darkness by flower loli
>The lost 10 tankoubons of Shinsuke getting creamed I want them
Luis Parker
>characters with inferiority complex become the mentally strongest desu Shinsuke and Douren seems more cliched to get corrupted
Gavin Sanders
I think it's just a matter of Mizukami reusing a lot of similar ideas. For example, it's not immediately obvious because it's never really the main plot but time travel is pretty integral to a lot of the big Mizukami stories people have read. At the very least, knowledge and minds crossing untold eons and interacting. And a lot of this is because his stories deal a lot with life, death, and continuing on. Also consequences cascading down through to the future. Also psychics, which is sort of always a future thing in scifi.
So naturally weird psychic people from the future is not uncommon, but I don't think the tribe of void are specifically meant to be Lafalle's people any more than Anima and Animus are some precursors to such a future either. As has been said, their different kinds of weird future psychic/spirit bullshit and being from the future doesn't necessarily mesh either. I think the only way things really line up overall is the ending of Spirit Circle where there's just infinite timelines and universes that intersect in reincarnation.
Jacob Hill
I only remember all the pantie shots,what was this about again?
Anthony Wilson
Sengoku Youko is the only shounen Yea Forumsnon and I liked it more Biscuit hammer as well
