What was Naruto’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine...

100% tax on being human and not playing gungi

>When the parallels between the two are stunningly close
Had to research a little, fuck grrmartin the bloated cow

Togashi and Martin are also really similar in that they (and their fans) think worldbuilding just means saying things exist and then never showing them affect anything

it's kinda weird how Martin popularized that meme quote but didn't really show any tax policies in SoFaI

though I understand that he really meant was "Aragon became king but how would he run his kingdom?" which doesn't work for this thread because despite its flaws they constantly show how Konoha works and operates (Ninja missions themselves seems to also count as a labor tax)

What do you think the shinobi are? They’re a standing army

>extensive worldbuilding
>every arc follows a previously used formula
opkiddies, everyone

Naruto is one of a long line of Hokages so naturally he probably won't move far from how they ran things

Konoha is a clan based system with usually running their own shit. Since the clans were assimilated into Konoha through war we can assume that they get periodic tribute from those clans (which was why the Uchiha revolted) and Konoha's army ranks are drawn from clans organizing their own fighting forces (not to mention the ninja academies and peerage system training them). Those that are not ninjas and clans usually handle the bureaucracy and hospitality in the village. While Genin's do quite a bit of the heavy lifting before they become Chunins.

The main army is the Land of Fire and it's army is controlled by the Fire Daimyo. Naruto and the rest of Konoha are ninjas aka covert ops vassals. They aren't there for pure army works but to deploy ninjas for espionage, intelligence gathering, assassination, and sabotage.

Like clockwork

Even if that were true having a formula doesn’t contradict good world building

why do hunterfags enjoy getting BTFO'd
their shitty series can't even provide the depth they are demanding from other series.

Read and weep, Narutard.

>This interview takes place in 2009, during the 10th year anniversary of Naruto, this interview is found in the "Naruto 10th Anniversary Chronicle Book Mini" :

>Kishimoto: Before I became a professional mangaka, I was already a big fan of Togashi-sensei, I was able to greet him at the Jump Festa

>Kishimoto: Yes. Well, during that time period I was having difficulty creating my manga. I thought I'd ask you for some tips sensei, the first time we met I was a little nervous but luckily Sensei was very nice to me which helped me get over my nervousness and allowed me ask a lot of questions. After diner, he showed me his workshop, the cycle of creating a manga, how to have a good work atmosphere and many other things. Back when I've started the serialization of Naruto, my inspiration for these was Hunter x Hunter, even to this day it still has a special place for me and I often re-read it.

yet Kishi can still make a fully functioning setting and Togashi can't

Really the only two places that seem to have had any importance is Not-North Korea and York New and neither of them had established tax polices (or really any information besides being a generic dictatorship and rathole respectively)

>Anime is measured by the amount of enjoyment you can get from it not the quality of writing
I agree. Same goes to cinema. Have you seen this boring black and white bullshit? Bela Tarr my ass.
Cinema peaked as an art form when Avengers were realesed.

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You didn't even read the manga. Killua explains to Gon how East Gorteau works and Nostrade explains to Kurapika how York New's elections and the police force works.

I'm getting the impression that Naruto is such a shit elected absolute (presumably) monarch that he hands most of the nitty gritty of policy work and administration to Shikamaru and others.

However he spent a long sojourn not doing shit, underestimating the needs of a growing city, and the paperwork started building up and since he has the final say on everything due to Konoha's political system he has to wade through millions of paperwork to approve them.

bruh, look at this dude

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HxH's world is a mirror of our own world. Gritty, realistic and raw.

>Literally just jumbled up the real world continents, with maybe one island added for kicks, and called it a day
Wow.

really being HxH to a worldbuilding thread is like bring a knife to a gun fight

HxH has strengths but world building isn't even an element in this series

Looks based to me

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>What was Naruto’s tax policy?
10% flat tax

nah it's clan tributes and commission tax from ninja missions

ost good worldbuilding usually starts with the writer thinking about what is different about his world, and how this changes reality. Togashi's original concept for the world was a "world of collectors" with a concept for a power system that bridged Hamon-like powers with Stand-like powers and existed as a secret in society. The first concept lends itself to a hodge-podge world, and the second concept can't really affect the world superficially because it is a secret.

Note too that the manga started in 98. Before Fantasy settings exploded in popularity, and just a few months after Oda's One Piece came out, so inventing the setting from scratch might have been considered a risky move. Plus, the most popular fantasy settings in Japan at the time like Dragon Ball, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Oda's One Piece(back then) were pretty non-descript.

Also, I am fairly sure the setting would be much better if he tried developing it from scratch nowadays, given that all his cool setting ideas (NGL, Giant Boat, Dark Continent) are from recent years.

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Most shonen fall flat upon closer inspection of the world they're set in, how does MHA society not collapse into anarchy since literally everyone has superpowers, how does the one piece World Govt. manage to govern the entire world despite not having much of a bureaucracy nor presence in most of the countries Luffy and co. visit, how do the spiders in HxH manage to take down the most powerful mafia organization in the world just by going around and killing everyone, you'd think having so much wealth they would at least hire competent hunters that wouldn't job like the shadow "beasts", especially given the fact that Kurapika almost killed half the Troupe despite learning nen like 6 months ago.

You're not supposed to think deeply about it user, just go with the bullshit they throw at you otherwise you won't be able to enjoy anything

>zetsu aren’t gone
They became fucking trees

Absolutely based

if I'm gonna waste 2hours of my time i would hope to come out entertained... I don't watch movies or chinese moving drawings to become a historian or to learn the struggles of the middle class during the great depression...
If i watch anime i expect to see people punching the shit outta each other.. I couldn't care less why they're doing it.

It's worse than that - Martin's worldbuilding is fundamentally broken. The only way any significant population could survive his super-long winters is with absolutely massive stores of food, but we never see a systemic reserve large enough to let a sizable portion of the population survive a multi-year winter. And if we assume those deposits exist, the extent to which they'd be pillaged to support an ongoing war with armies in the hundreds of thousands would mean the War of Five Kings would not be devastating - it would be apocalyptic.

The only way to prevent this would be if Winter Stores were viewed as sacred and protected by a system of religious and cultural taboo against stealing or destroying them, but there's no evidence of this. And that's not getting into how earthlike wildlife survives Martin's winters.

Or how anyone even pays for the war. The usual response is 'Iron Bank', but no institution able to survive would be willing to extend such massive amounts of credit to multiple contenders when the only way for any of them to pay is to win the war and seize the crown's revenues. Given the whole 'Win or Die' meme, credit would be even harder to get. It's one thing to lend money to someone who's going to lose some titles after the war, and another to someone who has no ability to pay unless they win.

Tbh, Togashi really is the GRRM of Manga. That said, the quote should be talking about JoJo or Dragon Ball, which are the manga Togashi most often references, not Naruto.

Maybe something about how Giorno's mafia makes money if he is so against that. Because that IS something Togashi implements in his manga. After Kurapika takes over the Nostrade, the mafia moves to gambling and security work.

Which is why I love Shinsekai Yori. Part of the population got telekinesis and society pretty much collapsed.

Even if Tolkien claimed his books had no inherent allegories, they were inherently loaded with his own views of anti-industrialism and monarchism. Also, even if Tolkien's books had a happy ending, the tone of the overall worldbuilding implied that everything was going down the shitter as time progressed and magic abandoned the world.

also, the continent that's just Eurasia turned 90 degrees is called "Azia" and Yorknew City is exactly where New York would be in notNorth America

>how does MHA society not collapse into anarchy since literally everyone has superpowers
it did. There's supposed to be a ~150 year period of complete chaos between when quirks became widespread and when All Might became the symbol of peace

>>wrote the most popular and culturally significant work of the genre
What do you mean? Wan Piss hasn't influenced a single manga in its 20 years of run. Tolkien wouldn't even use Wan Piss pages to wipe his ass.

>how do the spiders in HxH manage to take down the most powerful mafia organization in the world just by going around and killing everyone,
The Yorknew Auction had the biggest gathering of all the top heads from the Mafia and the Troupe killed most of them. Illumi killed the 10 bosses. This didn't affect that much the mafia community, it just shifted the power from the Yorknew mafia to another mafia that we see in the recent chapters.
>you'd think having so much wealth they would at least hire competent hunters that wouldn't job like the shadow "beasts"
Not all Hunters want to be part of a mafia. They are all part of the Hunter Association and they get a lot of money by doing their own activities. Why would they join a mafia?
>especially given the fact that Kurapika almost killed half the Troupe despite learning nen like 6 months ago.
He killed only one Troupe member, speedreader

Togashi was kinda locked into this map when he referenced "Jappan" early in the Hunter Exam, before he even knew that HunterxHunter would be serialized.

You kinda have to be somewhar patience with mangaka and things like these. You can't know that your manga will survive until you are some 40 chapters into it, so wasting time addressing things that might never be important like the shape of the world doesn't make much sense.

>You can't know that your manga will survive until you are some 40 chapters into it, so wasting time addressing things that might never be important like the shape of the world doesn't make much sense.
Which is fair, but there are tricks for sidestepping this. You can reference cities, for example, without doing more than vaguely mentioning their location and then later sprinkling them back into a world better developed from the ground up if you survive. You can do a lot with only a lose idea of what a world looks like anyway. Elantris and Powder Mage both did fine without world maps, and 2/3 of Mistborn didn't really need them, off the top of my head.

The Shadow Beasts lost so badly because they were dumb, not because they were weak. Even the Troupe mentions that had Rabid Dog used lethal poison instead of Paralyzing Poison Uvogin would be dead. Power level wise the Shadow Beasts were probablt about as strong as Genthru or Tsezguerra, who were way stronger than the average Hunter.

The Mafia also used to rely on the Troupe for muscle in the past, but they had a fallout about a year before the events of Yorkshin. So the bodyguards were the most loyal, strongest fighters of each mafia family. Headcanon: Probably because the Mafia sold information about the Troupe to the Zoldycks.

The Mafia did hire some competent Mercenaries after the Shadow Beasts died. They did not account for the Troupe hiring mercenaries of their own.

Kurapika is literally a min-maxer and even he would have died fighting more than 2 Troupe members at a time. The Shadow Beasts were dumb enough to attack the Troupe in two teams and still decided to play around instead of going lethal from the start.

>s, how does the one piece World Govt. manage to govern the entire world despite not having much of a bureaucracy nor presence in most of the countries Luffy and co. visit
They don’t. World government has limited influence due to spacial constraints and allows kingdoms to do what they want within their own borders as long as they swear loyalty to the WG.

I don't care about OP's worldbuilding because who gives a fuck about a "world that feels alive" without deep characters to connect with.

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hey opfag can you at least elaborate every time you post that pic? what's the problem with that? that is still way better than a single line of earth and minuscule islands so small that you don't have to bother to draw on the map....

this

>I used to think that killing people was ok, but now I realize that it's only ok to kill people that I don't think are interesting
whoa... I didn't think it was possible... for a manga... to be this deep

True. But Togashi mentioned a country called Jappan where people eat Sushi in like Chapter 9 as part of a gag, and showed a map of it that had the silhoutte of Japan.

That kinda solidified the whole "the map is going to be the world map but with landmasses shifted around" that we see around 30 chapters later in the series when he explains the distance between Yorkshin and Heaven's Arena.

>urggh i thought humans were bad but there's a cute girl so guess not
Brilliant.

i said culturally you fucking cretin, go to japan and you'll see that OP has totally infected every facet of their culture, its literally everywhere

I'm an English teacher in Japan and this is not true at all. The only people who read One Piece here are social outcasts.

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Absolutely based

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maybe you should go outside instead of trying to molest your students

>did not want to kill all humans until he found anime girls
Reddit, plz.

This.

American/European comic for the quality writing and detailed art, manga for pure enjoyment.

Those two are not mutually exclusive, though.

I'm pretty sure they established that the shinobi are funded by their private missions. the concept of a standing army or natural disasters make no sense when half of the population are basically superhuman spies that can control the elements. also naruto didnt become hokage until way after he had kids.