We need to talk about modern anime. In my personal opinion modern anime suffers from the 12 episode format...

We need to talk about modern anime. In my personal opinion modern anime suffers from the 12 episode format. It disrupts the pacing as it feels like you have no breathing room and the show is going through plot points. In addition, we cant connect with the characters as much as we could if we had a 50 episodes or 26 episodes. This in my opinion is the biggest strength of 80's 90's and 2000's anime. They toke the time to build their world thoroughly and well defined.

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You just made this thread you fucking ESL, fuck off.

It depends on what the anime tries to do. You can have some really great anime in just 12 episodes.
But I agree that longer anime is its own style that brings something unique compared to shorter anime.

It's an interesting topic that has merit. The last thread went in a bad direction, but it deserves to be discussed. Maybe they should've waited and reposted it another day, though, when the people from the other thread weren't still browsing.

>It's an interesting topic that has merit
Not when the fuckface trying to argue this point doesn't fucking understand English.

I'm still waiting for you to sort this list you impaired cunt.

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One of the best things about TV anime is the 12 ep format, because it means the series must have a hook and impact. Longer shows, as evident by Yea Forums, usually die or mutate into bullshit. Also the 12 ep thing means creativity and new shows are constantly made instead of franchise bullshit.

OP is merely a hollywood slave and thoroughly judaized.

>modern
this has been going since the 2000, what are you on about. Also yeah 12ep format is shit IMO. It's the main reason I switched to manga only. Everything was rushed and most of the times the endings were open ended if the animes were manga adaptations.

>>can't read
>> that means that you're an ESL

Well excuse me bud but if the other people here can understand my point, then your illiterate

You can't really compare anime to Yea Forums. The longer anime of the past do not do what Yea Forums shows tend to do. The styles are simply very different in what they try to do. Longer classics still tend to end in 50 episodes or so. Maybe more.

Many of the 2000s classics at least have 26 episodes.

And I think 12 episodes can be good, it depends on what you are after. Sometimes you just want a tightly told story or to explore a concept, and those are also styles of anime that should exist.
The problem only arises if one of the styles starts to disappear.

You admitted it last thread dumbass.

I managed to connect with the protag of mememe and that's a 5 minute short, flcl is 6 episodes and goes into tmi territory with every character. the format isn't the problem kiddo, it's the execution.

Flock isnt a TV anime though. It's an ova. Were talking TV anime

>flock
faggot

It doesn't matter
a good director can accomplish more than enough with a TV anime span of 12 episodes
luluco is 5 minutes and 13 eps
klk does more in its first episode well than series do in an entire season
it doesn't matter the length.

Don't try to argue with him.

Well it certainly does considering kill shit te bed its second half triggernigger

>we cant connect with the characters as much as we could if we had a 50 episodes or 26 episodes.
Yeah let's watch FILLER before we get to the relevant parts of a show.

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>it's an user whose brain has been fried by 13 episode series and thinks anything with more episodes than that is full of filler

It still isn't the same. You can't do everything with a short anime that you can do with a long anime. Dense episodes or efficient storytelling can do much, but it can never give you the full experience of a longer anime.

Have you never seen an anime with two or more cours before? Most longer anime I've seen have been without filler (filler being bad, pointless episodes that do nothing). You must have been really unlucky if everything long you've seen has been full of filler, if you've seen anything long in the first place.

I think the cour system is more of an issue. You can tell a story in any number of episodes but 13 or 26 episodes is more or less the norm these days. I'm sure you can get around that sometimes but as it stands most studios don't seem interested in doing so so it's more or less a hard rule. So instead of making enough episodes for the story you want to tell, you modify your story to fit the standard episode count, which I think is a bad thing. Someone who comes up with a story that would work well in 16 episodes might go and trim it down to fit into 13 episodes or pad it out to be 26 episodes, which just hurts artistic freedom.

The problem is when they try to adapt some 10 volume long light novel into a 12 episode anime. It just doesn't work very well.

Around 26 episodes is a good length for an anime series.

Old anime wasn't longer. Old TV anime was overwhelmingly kids' anime, and kids' anime is still long.
Single cour shows would have been 2 episode OVAs in the past, if they were made at all. So they're actually substantially longer.
There's also a much stronger trend of making split-cour shows or shows that get sequels, making for long stories without the production issues of weekly output.

Depends on what you consider a kids' show. Primetime stuff isn't necessarily kids' shows.

No, the problem is good series not having season 2.

The worst thing that could happen is a shit show going for more than 12 episode.

Not really. Even with a pretty generous definition the vast majority of TV anime before the mid 90s was for kids.