Clannad

Uguu~
:3

Retards are cute. I watched Clannad cause I saw a GIF of her doing the Thriller dance around the time it aired and thought it looked cute.

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She had the shittiest route. And tbdesu, every route that wasn't part of after story was shit except for the sunohara siblings

I will fight you in real life

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why do people hate the first season, i thinks its only slightly worse than after story

I don't think people actually hate it. That's probably just typical Yea Forums hyperbole.

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I've never heard anyone say they hated anything about clannad other than autistic Tomoyofags and to a lesser extent Kyoufags

Clannad is one of the least, if not THE least hated anime in this shithole

I've never heard anyone say that. I actually think the first season, as a whole, is slightly better. Sure, it lacks the impact of the post-graduation arcs, but it also doesn't cram a bunch of ill-fitting routes into the beginning or have a shitty asspull ending.

>asspull ending.
What the literal fuck
The After Story ending was foreshadowed since episode 1 of season 1, speedwatcher-kun

>baiting

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they're all retarded with their uguus and auuu adn gaoo

Showing a girl and a robot in a tiny house every now and then in no way makes "and then they all came back to life" a thematically fitting end to a story about acceptance and moving on with life. Showing the magical fix everything with zero consequences button before it gets used does not make it a good plot element.

Clannad means family

>a story about acceptance and moving on with life
wrong, clannad is about family relationships

Normalfags, not people. Usual whinny human trash. The same retards that are complaing about the art and character design in Clannad.

Personally I think Clannad is the best looking anime (as whole) all time. Peak of Kyoto Animation. It's not like their later productions are ugly, but Clannad is just perfect balanced (filters and hand drawn effects). Also color play is amazing. Coloring is synchronized with atmosphere. Also shading is great. The amount of details (backgrounds and characters) is also outstanding.
I really don't understand how anyone can state that Clannad looks bad. That'd plain retardation.

probably muh fish eeys

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>tfw Akio Furukawa will never be your father in law
>tfw Akio Furukawa will never be your husband
He is perfect Yea Forums. The best anime dad in existence.

This one is a clear reference to Yu-No btw.

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Their eyes are not even that big. There's a lot anime with bigger eyes that no one ever complained about it. That's a bullshit and if anyone is using this "argument" I immediately know that I'm dealing ith not only normalfag but complete newfag.

>tfw Akio will never cuck you by fucking his beautiful wife, Sanae-san, while you settle for his daughter instead
feels bad

Kyoani clothes animation expertise at its peak

I miss big eyes from 2000~2009.
It's my golden era of anime.

What was Yea Forums like when it was airing? Tons of clannad threads?

This user is right, After Story is a masterpiece but the very end is a narrative blunder. The story is much stronger and more relatable as tale on finding happiness after hardship,

>he doesn't get the show or understand the context behind the death of Nagisa and Ushio
fucking brainlets get off of my board

Go on, explain to me all this crap about the gameplay of the VN and karma, you wouldn't be the first one. Doesn't mean that this doesn't cheapen the character arc anyway.

Or you could just watch the anime like everyone else and see the plainly spelled out reason why Nagisa and Ushio get ill and why Ushio is capable of bringing Nagisa back. You're an edgelord who thinks happy = bad and don't understand the most basic of things about the anime you're criticizing. fuck off.

uh ok I'll break the streak for you, s1 is a snoozefest you have to sit through in order to understand after story (the important part)

Why do they get ill? Go on, make me look like an idiot. Surely this is not just a generic anime sickness and I misunderstood the whole thing. Did the village fairies want to kill those girls until MC amassed enough brownie points? Make my day.

although I agree with you I understand his perspective, they spent all that time on Tomoya repairing his relationship with his dad and his daughter and then suddenly in the last episode the whole thing gets reset

I agree with this and Clannad is one of my favorite anime because of AS. it carries the show as as two seasons into my #3 spot while simultaneously being held up by it’s weaker half.
>tfw want to watch it again years later but don’t want to sit through S1 again

But it gets reset BECAUSE of those things he did. The reset wouldn’t have just happened if he didn’t fix his life.

Because after she goes out and collapses in the snow waiting for her parents to get home from work, Akio runs into the forest and the town itself saves her. because of this Nagisa has an intrinsic connection to the town, and so the town changing affects her and Ushio on a deeper level than everyone else. This is also why Ushio is an interdimensional god. The brownie points system was what facilitates the ending. Tomoya caused all those lights to appear and thus was able to have a wish granted. Reverting Nagisa and Ushio's deaths because of the wishes is not an asspull. In fact, NOT reverting the death would be an asspull, as the entire reason for her dying is her connection with the town and all the lore that entails.

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>flashbacks of 2010 middle school listening to dango daikazoku rap remixes

The smart girl ruins S1

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I don't hate S1 but i do think it was really slow but you know after all it's a VN adaptation so it has to build all the stuff, what i didn't understand was the porpouse of Fuko, like really the story wouldn't have changed at all without her

>the smart girl makes S1
ftfy

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Yes, I understand all that, it all makes sense, mathematically. I'm saying that it doesn't mesh well with the character arc established in AS, and actually undoes some of that development as says, and ultimately feels cheap.
Also even if it's foreshadowed for the whole thing, having magic do pretty much nothing for the whole show and then have this huge role at the very end is weird.
>This is also why Ushio is an interdimensional god.
I mean, cmon. This is a perfectly amazing romance drama, why stuff all that into?
I think the main issue is that if you play the VN all the fairy crap feels more earned, because you actually interacted with it along the way. It has too small a role in the anime adaptation to fit in well though.

>why stuff all that into?
Because catharsis? Because it allows Tomoya to answer Nagisa's question she asked at the start of the show about if you can love something even if you know it my end some day? Because having Nagisa and Ushio die for no other reason than to make you feel would be retarded? It's not as if rolling back all of those deaths means they didn't happen at all. Tomoya remembers the whole thing and he takes the lessons learned with him in his new life.

>Because it allows Tomoya to answer Nagisa's question she asked at the start of the show about if you can love something even if you know it my end some day?
But... That's the whole point of AS. Resurrecting Nagisa doesn't affect whether he learns that lesson or not. Ushio dying as well is part of the forced part and is retarded. Having Ushio die and having the anime end there is just as stupid as bringing Nagisa back.
He already has his happy ending with Ushio, his family and the memory of Nagisa.

Does he really remember? It’s another dimension not time reset, going off of Kotomi’s family’s research. All the times he gathered the orbs were different dimensions essentially. If he remembered each time it would be like he is using the girls and people to get the orbs which negates the orbs power.

I see what you're saying but it still makes more sense to have the wishes and stuff. Maybe if they removed the bit about Nagisa being connected to the city and replaced her illness with something else that would cause her to die it would make sense, but the entire premise of the VN and anime is built upon the existence of the other world.
>Does he really remember?
yes
>It’s another dimension not time reset, going off of Kotomi’s family’s research.
the other dimension is where Ushio and the robot (Tomoya in the future/past) are.
> If he remembered each time it would be like he is using the girls and people to get the orbs which negates the orbs power.
are you talking about the visual novel here? Because if you are then that's less logically consistent because they also had to make the true end tie in with gameplay and give a reward to players who did every route perfectly. but even in the VN I'm pretty sure Tomoya remembers Nagisa and Ushio dying.

AS made me want to have a kid after living til prime breeding age thinking I’ll never want one because I don’t think I’d be a good mom. Now I’m past prime and the biological clock is ticking. If only Akio were real. Or Tomoya.

don't wait or you'll get your baby at 40 yo and have an autistic kid like my mom
Just go to a sperm bank and live the single mom life, and get a husbando after.

L O N D O N
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Hell no a kid needs a mom and a dad. I have a bf who would be a great dad, it’s me that’s the problem. My mom was 32 when she had me so i always say i got 6 more years to fix things
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Oh shit yeah I was thinking of the VN. Whoops. But that brings up the question of: if he remembers, is he only happy after the reset because Nagisa lived and he knows it’s all going to be daijoubu? In other terms if the reset didn’t happen, would he have taken what he learned to heart and eventually be happy again after Ushio dies or would he get depressed again? Well never know I guess.

I took it he got sent back to when Nagisa was giving birth. So was that penultimate scene of him yelling out to Nagisa on the hill and she tells him she was worried he wouldn’t call for her happening in another dimension? Because if its the base dimension it sucks.

I want to IMAGINE her

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>In other terms if the reset didn’t happen, would he have taken what he learned to heart and eventually be happy again after Ushio dies or would he get depressed again
who knows. one way of interpreting it is that he died of heartbreak right after Ushio died.
>So was that penultimate scene of him yelling out to Nagisa on the hill and she tells him she was worried he wouldn’t call for her happening in another dimension
Going with the Tomoya dying after Ushio hypothesis, you could say that this happened in the afterlife. Perhaps Nagisa's departed soul was there to present Tomoya with the choice of whether their relationship had been worth it, IE whether his wish should be "I wish me and Nagisa had never met" or "I wish Nagisa was alright (or whatever he wished for)".
Maybe it's all in his head as he dies
Maybe it's all in his head as Ushio watches and waits for his decision
you can interpret it however you like.

Huh I like that afterlife interpretation, although I never liked the dying of heartbreak thing so I wanna think of it as a limbo, where her actual soul has been waiting, or it’s just him imagining that her soul has been waiting as the wish is being granted (but I like the former).

What happens to Ushio and Tomoya’s bodies after they get sent back

If its another dimension it means his conscience is transferred to another one of infinite tomoyas
If it’s all in one timeline/dimension then only Tomoya has control of the world
Real shit nigga

If I were the MC, I'd use my wish to remove that autistic retarded violine tard from existence instead of ressing muh ded waifu

Isn't there an anime of rewrite? How is it? Only finished one route and was so disappointed in the retarded chuuni ending I couldn't get myself to ever play again.

There are only 2 dimensions. Earth and the other world.
>If it’s all in one timeline/dimension then only Tomoya has control of the world
he can control the timeline and make wishes because of his relationship with Ushio. Still needs lights though.
I will kill you in real life

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VN is great. Not the best of Key but definitely great.
Anime adaptation. It doesn't exit. It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist.
Seriously. When you see 8bit and VN adaptation, don't event think about watching it.

Nagisa is way cuter though.

Guess I just expected another tearjerk route end, but got dragonball instead at the end. Then again, key routes do tend to not always be sad by themselves

clannad is so good I think I might rewatch it soon
they dont make anime like they used to

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she is pretty cute, but she can't ara ara

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Posting family pic in occasional Clannad thread.

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I loved rewrite even if there was a lot of plot holes, its literally impossible to animate rewrite unless you did like every route

Bug family
Family of bugs

I wish we had more of them

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>There are only 2 dimensions. Earth and the other world.
Completely ignoring TOE, sasuga, Kotomitard.

>tfw no loving family-in-law and wife who will support me through thick and thin

it hurts bros

I would cuck Sanae to get to Akio with no survivors

>TOE
what the fuck are you on about

>In the anime adaptation of Clannad ~After Story~, Kotomi moves to America to further her studies. She, however, occasionally visits Tomoya and the others. She attended the reunion party with Tomoya and the other girls. She is very interested in what her parents were studying before they died, which is the theory of parallel worlds. She tells Tomoya, Nagisa, Ryou, Kyou and Youhei about this theory while they visit a pregnant Nagisa. This theory may explain the existence of the Illusionary World.
>TOE was is the fourth track of the second disc of the Clannad Original Soundtrack album. It was released on 13 August 2004. It was based off Étude Pour les Petites Supercordes.
>TOE is an acronym for the theory of everything, a theoretical physics theory which was the subject of Kotomi's and her parents' research. It was used as a background music for the final scene in the Drama Club room of the episode of the same name and Clannad Visual Novel.
Astonishing how a Kotomi fag knows very little about Kotomi.

I'm not seeing anything here to refute what I said