What difference is there between anime and cartoons?

I actually find western animation to be better than Japanese animation.

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>both are for children except few shows
>no anime is not more mature than cartoons
This is not true at all. Aside from shonen series, many anime series include graphic displays of sexuality and violence that would not at all be suited for minors. Anime series that deal purely with content suitable for minors when taking into account the average are more than exception than the rule. Even shonen series themselves generally have more graphic displays of both violence and sexuality compared to cartoons targeting the same age demographic in the west. While there are cartoons like the Spawn series that also deal heavily with sexuality and violence, it's displayed in a very different tone and manner, and that is also not a cartoon for children. Don't blanket an entire medium as "for children", it's both unreasonable and in this case inaccurate.

>Both are for children
Stopped right there

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Even in Japan only children watch anime.
quora.com/Do-anime-fans-in-the-West-know-that-anime-is-passe-or-not-a-mainstream-entertainment-in-Japan/answer/Erica-Friedman

>Even Japanese people call them the same thing.

Japan literally has words for American cartoons: cartoon.

The only people who call American cartoons 'anime' in Japan are the normie people who likewise call anime "those pokeyman cartoons". here in the west.

Problem is the cartoon fandom in Japan is ridiculously small, so it's not really an issue like the opposite is here.

Just a quick question, who do the children watch anime rated "18 and over"?

And this is supposed to prove something? The thoughts of some bimbo on Quora who provides no statistical evidence to support their case?

>Erica Friedman

lol

Then explain why this Japanese otaku site calls Tom and Jerry anime?
anikore.jp/anime/3330/
Creepy adults. You know adult fans of My Little Pony?
She has been in the industry for more than 20 years. She lived in Japan and published manga there. She is also the head of Yuricon.
okazu.yuricon.com/about/

Semantically there's no difference, both words means the same thing.
Culturally, there's many, many differences.

And that's supposed to prove something? There are many anime series released that are not at all intended for children. Far more on average compared to western cartoons.

If you watch Sazae-san(the most popular anime in Japan) no one will think you're weird. It's just like a westerner watching The Simpsons but watch something else and you're a 30 year old My Little Pony fan. There is no country where animation is for everyone.

Because there's a huge difference

God damn ironic weebs are the fucking worst. Anime going "mainstream" was a huge mistake.

Anime is not even mainstream in Japan. It's going to be even more niche in other countries.

That was never my argument, obviously if you look at average viewership you'll find a lot of kids watching Boruto, or One Piece, or SAO, or Boku, or Sazae; but that doesn't mean the genre is inherently meant for children. There are far more anime series available that are intended for adult audiences than there are cartoons, I can't even think of a cartoon released in the past decade and a half that was intended for a mature audience.

Avatar has the most annoying fans, drunks of nostalgia

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And gain, even with Shonen series, the level of graphic violence and displays of sexuality are well above what would be considered the norm in the west, simply because of our cultural differences, it is inarguable that most anime deals with more mature depictions of violence and sexuality than cartoons in the west.

There is plenty. Even more than anime I would say. Just google it

>just google it
I've already looked, you have popular shit like Archer, but those series only come around once every so often, whereas as each season you will generally find one or two shows that target an adult demographic with their themes.

Bullshit. Name one new cartoon series released in the last year intended for a mature audience, just one.

You can't.

Just look at netflix. How many adult animation are there? Non-seinen anime doesn't count btw.
Disenchantment

>Westerner
>woman
>no statistics
>anime isn't mainstream despite being the theme for the 2020 Olympics
>anime is passe despite Superflat art being the most noteworthy cultural export of Japan's high art world for decades

>enchantment
Suitable for teens

>Disenchantment
That watered down Futurama wannabe? That show was fucking horrible boring. Kill yourself if you think that's good cartoons.

Everyone who has been to Japan will tell you the same thing. In Japan anime is same as cartoons are here in the west. It's intended for children. There are few family shows here and there but watch something else and you're an adult My Little Pony fan.

Chirst, next you're going to say that Rick and Morty is deep and meant for adults

>In Japan anime is same as cartoons are here in the west. It's intended for children.
Yeah, that's why there's a multi-million dollar industry selling bishoujo figures, harem LNs, and hentai manga.
>There are few family shows here and there but watch something else and you're an adult My Little Pony fan.
Yeah, I'm a MLP fan because I watch shows like Dororo and Sarazanmai which are full of violence and sexuality no good parent would expose their children to.

You could say the same for every single anime though.

So? It's clearly for adults. It's not like we get lots of seinen anime every season.
Not deep but yes it is for adults if you think otherwise you're retarded

The moment they tried to memeserve shounens with whatever rare sauce, shit absolutely went down.

>Netflix
Yeah because Netflix's limited library is a good measure for how many adult-oriented anime there are, you are retarded.

Not for anime but there are adult animations there

And? Most of them are going to be rated teen anyways.

>It's not like we get lots of seinen anime every season
This season alone there are four anime based on Seinen manga, and several anime originals intended for a late night anime viewing audience, such as Sarazanmai and Fairy Gone. Why don't you actually learn something about anime instead of talking out your ass.

You have to be over 18 to post here

>It's not like we get lots of seinen anime every season.
You know One Punch Man, one of the most successful franchises of the past few years, is targeted towards the Seinen demographic, right?

Late night anime is intended for otaku. They are creeps.
I am over 18. No problem there.
You know Rick and Morty which was way more succeful than One Punch Man is targeted towards the adult demographic, right?

Right now we have
>Fairy Gone
>One Punch Man
>Shield Hero
>Bungou Stray Dogs
>Shoumetsu Toshi
And that's for currently airing series.
>Kaguya-sama
>Vinland Saga
>Rinshi
>Pet
>Golden Kamuy
>Youjo Senki Movie
>Ueno-san

Have already aired or are going to.

>12+ series in this year so far alone
>not counting series that are TBA
OP BTFO

To add to that, in Japan Wanpanman is niche. Very few adults know of it. Rick and Morty on the other hand is known by pretty much everybody in America.

I'm not arguing average viewership, we've already been over this, there are far more anime series geared towards an adult audience than there are cartoon series. Anime is not inherently for children, making blanket statements is always an idiotic idea.

Just fuck off back to redd*t already

You think adults watch them? Go ask adults in Japan or any other country for that matter and no one will know them.
Viewership is important. There are more adults watching cartoons than anime. Even in Japan adults love western animation but they don't care about anime at all except ghibli or family shows.

Appealing to the majority is a fallacy, you can't use it to prove that anime is inherently meant for children. Just because most adults in Japan do not watch these shows does not mean anime is inherently meant for children, the reality is that there are far more anime series intended for adult audiences than there are cartoon series.

Here's an article from 2014 with a study showing that about 40% of college students in Japan watch anime or identyify as Otaku, taken from a pool of about 5600 students.

soranews24.com/2014/02/01/are-you-otaku-roughly-40-percent-of-japanese-college-students-say-yes/

Much like our own demographics, you'll find that the amount of older people that watch adult cartoons like Rick & Morty peeters off as you get to older generations, that will eventually change as those generations die off and anime/cartoons become social norms rather than exceptions.

Not all of them watch anime. Most of them are otaku of non-anime related things.
quora.com/How-much-of-Japans-culture-involves-around-anime/answer/Erica-Friedman
Most people stop watching anime or reading manga after middle school.

Wrong, it shows that there are slightly more college students that watch anime compared to reading manga, although there is a heavy crossover between both with 5% - 10% more of them watching anime. Interestingly, there is an extremely low difference between men versus women considering themselves Otaku, about 0.3%.

5% - 10% more of the 40% who consider themselves Otaku*

I don't give a fuck what Erica Friedman says, she has no statistical evidence to back up any of her claims.

>Late night anime is intended for otaku
So only kids watch anime, except the adults who don't count. Got you. Kill yourself you fucking idiot.

>Most of them are otaku of non-anime related things.
And no, the vast majority of those who consider themselves Otaku responded yes to both anime and manga, with video games coming in third and musical arts 4th, with nearly everything else much, much lower.

That's not a big number. In Japan people watch Disney instead of anime. Pretty much everyone is a fan. You are the weird one if you don't like Disney in Japan. Watching anime on the other hand is creepy after a certain age.

40% of college students is not a small number.

Japan's population is world's oldest so there is not that many young people to begin with and that 40% is not all about anime. Just 10% of it is anime.

>just 10%
Are you retarded? Read the survey. Of those who identified as otaku nearly all of them said yes to both Manga and Anime, with anime coming in the lead 5% - 10% higher; video games was 3rd with on average 30% of all college students identifying as Otaku for them, and musical arts 4th with ~27% on average (rough estimates)

Without the total overall average, it shows that between 53% - 60% of both men and women in the sciences and arts identify as anime otaku, with manga being between 45 %- 53%

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So it's clear that if over half of the college student population identify as anime otaku, it's not inherently meant for children. Fuck off with your SJW propaganda bullshit.

cartoon and anime are for little kids, get over it

Statistically wrong, go back to
or leddit or whichever aids infested forum you came from.

quora.com/Ive-been-told-that-anime-is-actually-a-very-niche-thing-in-Japan-Answers-I-saw-on-Quora-support-this-claim-As-a-Japanese-person-or-someone-who-lives-in-Japan-do-you-think-this-is-true/answer/Martin-Schneider-2?__filter__=&__nsrc__=2&__snid3__=4256618808
Read this. Only a small selection of anime is popular in Japan and all of them are children and family shows. Just like in the west. Anime is seen as how we see cartoons here. Mostly for kids and manchildren. Normal people watch family shows and that's it. Disney on the hand is watched by everyone. Probably people on that survey is a fan of Disney anime. Yes in Japan Disney is anime
This guy gets it.

You can keep bringing up bullshit from Quora that has zero evidence behind it and it's not going to change anything. You have been statistically BTFO, and even argued yourself that there are many cartoons in the west meant for adults, which is completely contradictory to the initial claim that anime and cartoons are meant for children.

>18 IP's
>73 posts
Just fucking hide the thread an move on.

Why hate Quora? It's a great site. If you manage to avoid Indians that is

I don't hate Quora, but if the answer to a question is completely empirical it means nothing, as the author could have any amount of intentions behind giving it. Back up your shit.

Ask anyone who has been to Japan and they will tell you the same thing.

I know someone that currently lives in Japan and the vast majority of his friends are into both anime and manga.

The difference is airing time. "Cartoons" air during daytime, while most of the seasonal anime air pretty late around mid-night.

I'm sure, go back to and leddit now.

Because if you are fan of something you are more likely to be friends with people who are also fan of that particular thing.

Yes, and most of his friends are also around college student age. Which is just more empirical evidence to support the statistics. Unless you have any factual evidence to support your claims this debate is over. If statistically over 50% of all college students watch anime it is clearly not just meant for children. Don't make idiotic blanket statements in the future.

How many of them will continue to watch anime after they graduate?

That doesn't matter, those that do are of adult age and watch anime. The fact that there are 5 currently airing seinen series, and that there are more slated for next season or have already aired in 2019 alone backs that up as well. Unless you have something to counter that your idea that "anime is meant for children" is clearly wrong.

Okay