Amanimonogatari

Why do you post the same shit every time

Apparantly Araragi's parts in Monster Season so far have literally just been him showing to have learned from his prior mistakes and properly helping people (all kids incidentally) out. I'm only going off of summaries and comments from others though.

A birdfag from the previous thread wanted to know if she has scenes this novel and she does.

Pizzagate is real

>When Koyomi refers to Math in this novel, it's by "sweetheart" or "lovely".
Best grumpy couple

What God? Feet atleast smell and look better than you do, fatass.

>Cat's life was pretty terrible for a while due to having to pay back for the fighter jet she rented in order to get back to the town on time in Owari 2
Being cat is suffering.

I find her face quite erotic, user. Don't be a bully.

>Cat's life was pretty terrible for a while
Was her life ever not terrible?

This but unironically

>nisio heroine
>not suffering in some way
user, c'mon. This is just Nisio 101. Math is a favorite of his, and she's had a shit life.

How many old men did she have to fuck to pay it off?

So Yotsugi is apparently nowhere to be seen in Musubi because she ends up with Nadeko then?

Also it's pretty blatant that Nisio regrets not introducing Sodachi earlier on, he keeps including random bits about her & Koyomi's relationship in every book now

God invented feet too though.

All of them.

>So Yotsugi is apparently nowhere to be seen in Musubi because she ends up with Nadeko then?
Not sure.

>Also it's pretty blatant that Nisio regrets not introducing Sodachi earlier on, he keeps including random bits about her & Koyomi's relationship in every book now
I mean he does this with Cat a lot as well. Nisio just likes to tease all the relationships if anything.

Oh, and the next novel of Nisio's will be his 100th one in case no one knew that.

Next one is the one I'm interested in the most personally

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Cause it's his 100th or do we have some info on it already?

All we know about it is the name of it + the two arcs in it (Ougimonogatari, containing Ougi Light and Ougi Fright)

>Koyomi is "an expert on child abuse."
She's right, but for all the "wrong" reasons.

>those soft suckable toes

not even one
she's too strong

Math was twisting the knife with that line. When she was younger she invited him to her house specifically so that he was report the abuse she was suffering, but he didn't catch on.

That's the official story, which is a blatant handwave to cover up what's actually happening.

roriragi messed up horrifically with a kid getting abused before, maybe he sees doing stuff like this as repentance or some shit
it's definitely intentional on Nisio's end that his stories in Monster Season so far involve him helping abused kids

Actually it was satan who invented clothes. And oh man was he a genius.

so what's the mystery and did they solve the issue?

No idea yet. Probably related to Doll creating the oddity.

sucks to be you

Gaen basically becoming Araragi's crazy aunt is weird. Initially she just kept an eye on him because of the threat with Shinobu but now she just looks out for him specifically for some reason.

Neutralizing the world's strongest vampire with kindness is a pretty convincing demonstration of skill as a specialist. There's not really any mystery as to why Gaen is trying to keep him in her clutches.

I mean she was surprised before that Araragi actually did shit that she was unable to predict for once. That plus he reminds her of Tooe, it's not that crazy that she'd have an interest in him.

Ok more info. Slighty more important than the previous spoilers

It's called the Buddy arc supposedly. Takes place during summer. Koyomi and Bird meet in their household. She tells him she's off to go hiking with her junior classmates since they heard of a deserted dead body appearing in a near town. It's mentioned that Bee is hiking with her senior HS classmates. Fast forward a few chapters, Bird sends him a message that she's on her way back and that she didn't find out anything about that dead body. Also mentions she's going to play with Snake. She loves to dress up Doll, but Doll runs away with from her. At the end of the story, Bee will lose "her" Doll. During this arc, Doll does something terrible, she created an oddity.

That seems to be the flow of the story from what I was able to find. Nothing about child abuse yet.

I thought Zoku was the last of the franchise though.

>monogatari
>ending

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Previous book had some focus on the circumstances behind Doll's creation too, wonder if Nisio's going somewhere with this

It was such a nice way to end the series too.

He should put a baby in Math already.

But who was this girl again?

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just a random chick that needed help I think
maybe someone less brainlet than me can explain it better but Araragi's narrative involves way more of these one-off characters like that than before in general now

>He should put a baby in Math already.
he has a girlfriend you idiot. hitagi and he already promised to marry her in musubi which takes place after this novel.

He should dump her for real already instead of pussyfooting about it.

So Araragi is now dating math? What happened to crab...

So? It could and should still happen.

>So Araragi is now dating math?
No, him and Math are sort of like how he is with Cat. Well that's the closest comparison I guess but it's not quite the same thing.

stop this shit. when its not some batfags, its someone else starting up. hitagi is his girlfriend and future wife. if he has kids with anyone, it will be HER.

Crab wasn't even mentioned until you brought her up, stop trying to start this shit everyone's tired of seeing every Monogatari thread already

He'll marry Snail though. He promised way, way in advance.

Math threatened suicide when Hitagi and Koyomi broke up because of her.

i mentioned her cause he's taken already and he vows to marry her and we see her in a wedding kimono on the musubi novel. why cant some you just accept the main couple already? ridiculous

they broke up and she didn't commit suicide though

Their dysfunctional relationship isn't going anywhere.
>b-but take this bait-and-switch illustration at face value instead of paying attention to the massive tidal wave of issues that they've been shoving under the carpet for literal years
>nisio definitely doesn't have any precedent of shoving reality in a shitty couple's face after they ignore their issues for the entire series

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>stop this shit. when its not some batfags, its someone else starting u
Thread was completely civil until you showed up though
has nothing to do with liking or disliking Gahara, but it's the few autistic Crabfags like you as well as the few autistic Batfags you're talking about who sperg out whenever she's not being talked about that shit these threads up every time, just fuck off already

So Math is now his concubine? Or are Math, Araragi, and Cat all Crabs concubines?

No wonder she becomes Punished Cat in the future

Forced relationship is forced. It's very clear that Arararagi is better with literally any other girl than crab.

>everyone sick of crab and her rabid, retarded fanbase's shit is a batfag

nadeko's ass

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Nah, it's like this
>Gahara's his girlfriend, though they don't interact much
>Shinobu's his soulmate, generally always there in the background but doesn't really do much most of the time (except to occasionally fuck everything up somehow to make the plot move along I guess)
>Sodachi's basically his best friend during the college years?
>Hanekawa got rejected, she's like his mom now. Also she becomes Big Boss or something.
>Karen's just his sister, technically enjoys the most stereotypical romance with him in the cast, but also it doesn't count because they're just siblings bro
>Araragi and Hachikuji look out for each other as bros, they also enjoy raping each other
>Ougi is Araragi, also is his daughter, also is Meme's niece, also is a dude, also is a spooky but well-intentioned ghost who haunts Araragi's school
>Yotsugi's another friend, Yotsugi felt this pretty much from Second Season onwards apparently but it took Araragi a while to realise that's how it was

Not what I said. I also said a few specific Crabfags and Batfags, not all of them. If you've been in a thread for this series before you'd know what I'm referring to.

>she's like his mom now
Who builds a shrine made up of old hair, a pair of panties, and a bra for someone they feel is their mom?

>Karen's just his sister
Acts like his girlfriend more than his actual girlfriend.

>Who builds a shrine made up of old hair, a pair of panties, and a bra for someone they feel is their mom?
One of those depraved Japanese moms who let their sons lewd them if it means they'll focus on their work, yeah

>Acts like his girlfriend more than his actual girlfriend.
It's just standard sibling closeness bro, dunno what you're talking about

I just want more Koyomi x Karen living together shenanigans please Nisio pander to my unsane fetish.

>Acts like his girlfriend more than his actual girlfriend.
That user did acknowledge this, so clearly you didn't read it through. I also care more about their romantic tension than I ever did for Crab, even in their best scenes (except for probably the date in Bake).

You're right about Hanekawa though. To some extant she acts like the mom at times, but there's also the aftereffects of their unhealthy semi-mutual obsessions to deal with.

Koyomi ends up in Gaen's harem

What's is Genesis 3:21...

>When Koyomi refers to Math in this novel, it's by "sweetheart" or "lovely".
Nice

>When Koyomi refers to Math in this novel, it's by "sweetheart" or "lovely"
There any given reason for this? Surely he's not getting settled with Sodachi is his newfound love behind his girlfriend's back because that would be too good to be true.

>behind his girlfriend's back
He doesn't do this behind her back

>There any given reason for this?
Nope. Maybe we'll know if there's a reason for it when those that read the novel want to give out more spoilers. This was during the college years so maybe he on break from Crab? They broke up like 3 or 4 times from what I recall.

>He doesn't do this behind her back
So Crab knows? I really can't help but disagree. Didn't she get angry when she found Math was living at the household? Which then caused a break-up.

Gahara talks about Hanekawa the same way to Koyomi's face and probably spends more time with her than Koyomi does after a point in the story, what's the difference here?

>tfw Math is designed as wearing her hangups and mental issues as part of her character and recovery
>tfw she provides the "sick/frail girl" appeal (previously described by Hanekawa) and volatility that Crab had lost after being cured in one arc
Is this why she's so alluring? It's like Crab but her problems weren't solved overnight and her backstory has a more personalized quality with how it affected Araragi's formative years.

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>Didn't she get angry when she found Math was living at the household?
Yeah but Araragi hiding it made that seem way more suspicious than it was, even if Araragi's fears of Gahara getting upset about the idea weren't entirely unfounded it would've been more sensible to just tell her from the get go what was happening.

Well her relationship with Cat never caused a break-up for starters. I don’t think Crab would take too kindly to knowing that he refers to his childhood friend that he claimed to not even look at as the opposite sex as “sweetheart” and “lovely”. Crab is a jealous one.

Araragi repressed and was somewhat traumatised by the whole thing with her for ages too, it's probably a massive weight lifted off of his shoulders that he's able to just talk to her sort-of normally now
also after Zoku he probably can't help but feel a little closer to her now, even if it wasn't the real her in that story

Take your pills, schizo.

Lol no.

>know a guy who likes anal
>hates feet
nigger if you're deep tonguing butthole and not sucking on toes then you were probably foot molested as a child

Does it take place in between or during the one of their 2 college breakups?

What happened in monster season so far?

No clue yet, but I'm pretty sure he completed his first year since the novel takes place during summer. Did Musubi state when the first break-up took place, like the 1st or 2nd or 3rd year?

Kissshot's master returned to Japan.

All of Monster Season is set during the college years so far

>during the one of their 2 college breakups?
Not specified I think, outside a couple specific arcs in this series that sort of thing is never the focus anyway

First book involved the vampire chick who turned Shinobu into a vampire, later arc titles make it clear that she'll show up again later. For the most part it's just stories of college Araragi solving mysteries (and Gaen slowly bringing him into her band of specialists I guess) while changing POV to some other characters now and then

crabfags absolutely assblasted. grasping for straws because they know senjo has 0 chemistry with rrrg compared to other heroines

Wait, is this set after Musubi?

No, it's before Musubi, in college.

Math and Araragi are fun because they actually feel like an equal relationship (Araragi is neither submissive or overwhelming, and Sodachi neither throw herself at him nor actually want to hurt to him in any way) and who can be completely honest about their thoughts about the other.

Every reveal about their relationship is about one of them friendly teasing the other and back.

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Maybe it's some next-level trolling by Crab as a way of getting back at Math.

Thank God Nisio doesn't care about fags and haters.

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>puts bride!crab on the cover
>actual content reveals they broke up 4 times
>doesn't actually write about the wedding
>doesn't even bother to write about the proposal
Makes me chuckle every single time.

The cover is the wedding, it's a hint for retards like you. Araragi doesn't care about the breakups, he loves her very much, feels devastated without her and wants to marry her. Of course she will say yes.

>feels devastated without her
I thought it was the other way around according to leaks way back? Unless I missed something recently.

>I thought it was the other way around according to leaks way back?
It was. Crab was the one to show up at his home with glasses on to cover her swollen eyes.

No, he is very sad and wants her back as soon as possible. He even wants to go abroad to be with her.

pastebin.com/Tx86ye9L Epilogue with Crab

mirroredtranslations.tumblr.com/post/156332412867/tsuzura-human-chapter-3 Araragi and Math discuss his relationship with Crab

crabfag here. I actually wait for something like this to happen, such the the whole show can finally come to an end (yeah, who am I kidding). And by something like this I talking motherfucking bloodbath, or apocalypse levels of horrors. The EoE of Raragantari. Obviously only shinobu and rara are going to survive this.
Something along those lines is going to happen, right? Sooner or later. Right?

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> Right?
No, Monogatari is Nisio's safe haven. Nobody will ever die in monogatari.

Even Nisio will grow old, and bitter, start to lose his marbles and ultimately his safe haven. This won't be pretty.

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Did you even check my numbers? At some point this is going south faster than you can kakaka.

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If anyone even comes close to dying Ragi can just poor some vampire blood on them and badaboom badabing it's solved

Once raragumentality hits and people turn to goo, not even rara will be able to do anything at all, other than sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

It also solves domestic violence claims.

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It's basically Nisio's fix for Ragi and crab's boring, shitty relationship. If only he would have the guts to write crab out entirely.

To be honest I wouldn't mind Crab sticking around like other cast members if they broke up. I just think she'd be far better suited to being Araragi's ex than his girlfriend/wife. She's entertaining sometimes and she has a unique perspective, but in terms of chemistry and romantic tension she falls behind three other heroines by far - at the absolute minimum - so I have no investment in where their relationship goes.

Araragi's blood doesn't have this function anymore though, he is too weak now. If he tries to get more vampire power with Shinobu, he will be turning into a complete vampire as mentioned in the story.

>he will be turning into a complete vampire
Well, yeah. How else is he supposed to survive the raragumentality?

Arguing Araragi's love interest is bullshit
>He was about abandoned everybody to be with Snail when she is going to the hell.
>His first priority is live with Shinobu forever
>Stay together forever was said to Hitagi as well.
>He was willing to die for Hanekawa after the you die I die you live I live shit.

Jesus fuck, this madman has written 100 novels. And these aren’t light either, many of them are over 500 pages with no pictures.

So basically Araragi is a slut.

He also promised to marry snail and accepted a suicide pact with math.

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>I said I am going to marry you
>But I marry someone else in front of your home.

Pretty much.

The four are pretty much the heroines he's closest to.

Only time Araragi shows a sense of promise is in Owari, he has to survive because one reason that is Shinobu.

>takes place before Musubi
Dropped

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Reading Wazamonogatari
>Suicide Master eats every piece of her minion's blasted corpse with love.
>She finishing eating with the last part, the minion's tone
Holy shit why is this scene so romantic?

>tone
tongue, I am sorry.

>Ougi is Araragi, also is his daughter, also is Meme's niece, also is a dude, also is a spooky but well-intentioned ghost who haunts Araragi's school
>Arararagi's spirit is haunting his school
That seems a tad ironic.

Hitagi worst girl

Shinobu's blood still does, like in Neko Black. If he desperately wanted her to help like that, the only reason she would refuse if it were strongly in his best interests to.

And domestic violence!

The monogatari series has become so trash is a miracle it's still relevant.
Only pretentious waifu baiting crap

>*inhales profusely*

>Araragi and Hachikuji look out for each other as bros, they also enjoy raping each other
That's all I could hope for.

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Bruh, everyone here knows even crabfags know that Bat will always be Araragi's number one. Also the thread was going nice until you brought your retarded crabfags delusions.
>MUH BATFAGS START EVERYTHING
fucking kys and you need to go back

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Shinobu and Rara going BATSHIT CRAZY AND SLAUGHTER THEM ALL FUCKING WHEN

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He's going to marry her.

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I believe she was inspired on Banica Conchita.
Any way I need more of Suicide Master eating people. She doesn't leave anything behind

I love mayoi onee-san and want to marry her

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No, Hanekawa won't give him no play, it's just doting advice now. She even took back the underwear she knows he kept all that time. She is just watching people from the shadows.

>She is just watching people from the shadows.

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>thinking Kiss-shot and Ragi together would be able to take over the world when Oshino exists.

You can be as powerful as you want, hell, you can be so strong throwing yourself into the sun doesn't work but no-one can defeat Oshino with prep time.
Even in Route X when Oshino died, he still took Kiss-shot with him.

Prisma Illya is the only good -gatari.

Not like that, she is being a guardian of the group of sorts. Taking the hit for Ragi and not telling him about it, I do wonder what is causing her to suffer from chattering that jet.

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Nah, he was fine with a double suicide with Ougi and this was right at the end of his character development.

Araragi lives first and foremost for himself now. Gahara and Shinobi are the ones who choose to stay with him even when given the oppurtunity to leave, not the other way around. If for whatever reason they do decide to leave him he may be sad about it but ultimately he'll try to move on from it and just continue his life as normal, from what we've seen anyway.

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>he loves her very much, feels devastated without her and wants to marry her.
He does, but those break-ups also showed that he can continue his life without her.

Yeah, I mean, many anons don't realize that there is a literal fucking storm waiting to happen. It's like Nisio is dodging the point completely till it blows.

Obviously he can but he doesn't want to.

>After college
What were during college years? I've only seen the anime so I assume theyre pretty far behind but I didn't think they were that far as araragis hasn't even started University there

How about snek?

That's not correct.
>If for whatever reason they do decide to leave him he may be sad about it but ultimately he'll try to move on from it and just continue his life as normal, from what we've seen anyway.
Regarding Shinobu, this is dead wrong. It's true that Araragi can give his life on the drop of a hat, even with the vows he made towards Shinobu. That's just who he is. But he absolutely refuses to live without Shinobu. This is nothing new. If we're talking about who Araragi treasures more, it's always been Shinobu, even Hitagi acknowledges this fact.
In Shinobu Mail, for example, Araragi Shinobu asked Araragi who he would choose between Hanekawa, Hitagi and herself, it ended with Araragi dodging the question. But later in that arc, Gaen presents him with the same question, and he chooiced to fight Sheishiro first because that was more important to him.
Because he somehow deluded himself into thinking that Seishiro was far better than him for Shinobu and that she would leave him.

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Noice...

Oshino is strong sure, and his tactics are downright scary, but everything around his strengths is set down situational. Like, stealing Kiss-Shots heart, was a one-time thing he could only do at that time because of circumstances. There is no one who could face a double full vampire Shinobu and Araragi. They are too fucking broken

Sweet. Now she can be my onee-san too.

>not the other way around. If for whatever reason they do decide to leave him he may be sad about it but ultimately he'll try to move on from it and just continue his life as normal, from what we've seen anyway.
user, Araragi literally denies every possible situation of Shinobu leaving him peacefully, because he simply doesn't want her out of his life. Are you smoking or something? There is a monologue in the novels where he says that is he had to describe what Shinobu was to him, he said: "my heart"

He went after Crab in Musubi, stop twisting things.

>He went after Crab in Musubi, stop twisting things.
No she came back to him crawling begging for him to take her back.

She just came back. Stop your bullshit.

>there is a literal fucking storm waiting to happen
Exactly what I'm talking about.

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Well, he not exactly wrong though, Araragi did plan to move his work closer to her. In the end, she came back crying to him and that's where it ended. Araragi loves Hitagi, but it's a fucked up relationship because he can never fully devote himself to her. Hitagi knows this but accepts it, she can never be #1 in his heart, since his heart is Shinobu (his words).
It's funny how Nisio is literally sweeping all the problems under a rug until he decided to pull it away and cause a shitstorm.

> it's a fucked up relationship because he can never fully devote himself to her. Hitagi knows this but accepts it, she can never be #1 in his heart
It's not even a problem for them. They broke up because of different career paths not because he has Shinobu in his shadow.

Go read the final part again and tell me she didn't crawl back to him after all the shit she did

True, but their relationship is starting to get bored and "overused"

>It's not even a problem for them
Are you fucking kidding me LMAO

She didn't crawl back, retarded hater. She just came to his house to meet him and talk about their future.
Where was this problem mentioned? Ever?

>It's not even a problem for them. They broke up because of different career paths not because he has Shinobu in his shadow.
You're missing the point, even other characters in the series call Araragi out for this fact. It's unfair towards Hitagi.

> even other characters
Who and where.

Math does so, Ononoki does it too, even Ougi at one point teases him about it, by calling Seishiro his romantic rival.

>She didn't crawl back, retarded hater. She just came to his house to meet him and talk about their future.
How dumb are you? She broke up with him for stupid reasons, then came back crying to be with him again. How is that not crawling?

Uhm lets see, the fact she admits it's pointless to let him live if Shinobu dies or the fact that he will outlive her? OH maybe because she will be too fucking old while he still looks the same? Never a problem

They'll break up for good eventually get over it.

In Musubi mostly dumbfuck. Why are you talking about thing if you didn't even read the novels? Fucking kill yourself

Basically this. Hitagi was faster, but Araragi had already begun to adjust things in order to be able to work overseas. Time and time again, we're shown how important to Araragi his relationship with Senjougahara is. This bickering between Bat and Crab is stupid because both mean something different for him. He loves them both and he doesn't want any of their relationships to go to waste. He values his humanity and the ordinary in Hitagi and his self and his inner desires in Shinobu (people also forget that Shinobu is also a reflection of Araragi himself).

You don't know how to read, huh? The time they broke up for something stupid was the second, still in the middle of college and when their relationship was strained because of Sodachi. The third time was because of different carreer paths and they both supported each other. There is literally a link to chapters that explain this. She came back because she wants to be with him and she didn't ruin her life for it, the same as he was going to do for her.

> Math does so
Math doesn't even know about Shinobu what are talking about? They discussed his relationship with Crab in Musubi like it was a normal relationship with common problems. Their problems were their careers and distant relationship, not Shinobu.

Ononoki is a grumpy old ghost and Ougi is Araragi himself.

>"That girl is Araragi-kun's treasure, you see. If she were to die, keeping Araragi alive would be meaningless."
In my eyes, it's nothing but fucked up. She acknowledges that Araragi treasures someone else over her and Araragi even solidifies this fact by choosing Shinobu over everyone. So, the fact that he can even think of devoting himself to someone else, while he's already done so, is mindboggling.
>Math doesn't even know about Shinobu what are talking about? They discussed his relationship with Crab in Musubi like it was a normal relationship with common problems. Their problems were their careers and distant relationship, not Shinobu.
Math is not retarded, and the careers/distance weren't the only problems user. Even if she doesn't know about Shinobu, she's smart enough to see that what Araragi is doing in "unfair" to Hitagi. She literally says so.

No he doesn't, he gives Shinobu the option to leave at the end of Owari. She decides to stay, he didn't make her stay.

>Ougi is Araragi himself.
Yeah, exactly. Good job getting that.

> In my eyes, it's nothing but fucked up.
Replace Shinobu with a child from his ex/dead wife. There is nothing wrong with Hitagi accepting Shinobu.

>No he doesn't, he gives Shinobu the option to leave at the end of Owari.
Oh, I see, blantely lying are we now?That never happened user, don't make up blatant lies or post false information.
>"Of course, after successfully ridding his body of all its vampire elements, if my master wishes to no longer become a vague existence neither human nor vampire, I shall retract my wish. After healing that arm of his, I shall hide myself away in a mountain to live the life of a hermit"
>Araragi: "NOT HAPPENING"

>Replace Shinobu with a child from his ex/dead wife
Here we go with Reddit's
>Araragi and Shinobu have a father/daughter relationship
>There is nothing wrong with Hitagi accepting Shinobu.
Hitagi never accepted Shinobu though. In fact, she probably close to hates her since she refuses to step into Araragi's car. Guess why.

>Replace Shinobu with a child from his ex/dead wife
>father and daughter
Oh, good lord, reddit is here.

>but Araragi had already begun to adjust things in order to be able to work overseas.
He was never seriously intending to move abroad, he wanted to go there and bring her back, somehow.
He spent all of Musubi trying to find the motivation (for the lack of a better word) to go overseas, he could've gone for her earlier if he wanted but kept making excuses. Several characters pick up on this and Araragi himself makes it pretty blatant.

Araragi's main romances are intentionally fucked up and hypocritical. Literally one of the main themes in the series and on some level applies to every character who's ever been a narrator.

Other way around. Shinobu offers to leave, Araragi says no. It gets misquoted and twisted by everybody on both sides for some reason

> she refuses to step into Araragi's car.
Stop imaging things or post the proofs. And even if she does it means absolutely nothing. She accepted Shinobu since the fucking beginning.

>Stop imaging things or post the proofs
It's not imagining, it's the truth. Hitagi refuses to get into that car. And you're asking for the source, but that was posted a fucking long time ago in these threads during the summer two years ago.
>She accepted Shinobu since the fucking beginning.
She didn't, they both tolerate each other. Well, it's more like Shinobu tolerates her. Hitagi just completely ignores her, cause she can't do anything about it. Taking Shinobu away from Araragi is the same as killing him. She's forced with it.

Where was that stated? Also she got her own car before Araragi did IIRC

>Also she got her own car before Araragi did IIRC
Yeah, but we're talking about that bright yellow car of his, where the only person allowed to sit in the front is Shinobu. Hitagi refuses to get into that.

The nature of Araragi/Shinobu relationship doesn't matter. Hitagi is ok with Shinobu no matter what. I think she is even ready to be cucked by Shinobu. But only by Shinobu because she is a part of Araragi. I mean their relationships are indeed flawed but why do you want them to be vanilla?
It's stupid. She rides his dick and shares a bed with him but refuses to get into the car? Post the proofs. batffag.

>Taking Shinobu away from Araragi is the same as killing him
He's been separated from her several times and was fine. Acts more confidently than usual if anything.

I actually agree that he cares about Shinobu more but where did his whole
>he'd sacrifice everything just to be with her
meme come from? He acts contrary to that straight through to the climax of Ougi Dark, because it's observably more complicated than how people here are trying to summarise things

t. cuckold

retard

>Amanimonogatari
>Not Umamimonogatari
Dropped

>He's been separated from her several times and was fine. Acts more confidently than usual if anything.
here>meme
It's not a meme, it's the truth. It's why he choose fighting Seishiro over anything else. Because he was batshit scared Shinobu would leave him for Sheishiro. Araragi can offer his life to anyone with the drop of a hat, but he refuses to live his life with her. How is that a meme? It's the simple truth.

I mean without* here

He wants both both Gahara and Shinobu
More than that he wants to be the justicefag human he's always wanted to be, but that's hard to balance with Shinobu (first book of Monster Season reiterates how at odds the two are with each other as far as outlook on humans and general life is concerned, but it's always been there) who he also won't let go of, increasingly so because as he gets older he's actually gotten good at the whole justicefag thing now

>She rides his dick and shares a bed with him but refuses to get into the car? Post the proofs. batffag.
Well, calling me a batfag is not gonna do much user. That proof, was posted during the summer a year or two ago, so I'd have to archive search that shit. I think it was a spoiler in Shinobumonogatari or Musubi? Can't remember precisely.

me

You need to know how to read, user.

"Now for the epilogue - or perhaps I should call it the conclusion of this case. Having thought of a way how both of us could move forward without having to distort ourselves and having made the first step on that journey of a thousand miles..."

"We were thinking the same all along. No, to be precise, I only planned on progress under conditions by working under the organization’s system, while Hitagi changed the system of the organization altogether, moving forward under her own conditions."

Araragi had already begun adjusting things to work abroad. Sure enough, we have cases of unreliable narration and relationships in the series are quite complicated and toxic. This doesn't mean people don't grow up or develop. After going through everything they have, Araragi and Senjougahara commited to each other and got over their problems. People focus too much on the amount of break ups they had, while forgetting that Araragi messed up really bad with Sodachi which caused the first break up, the second break up was a while after and because the relationship had been strained because of this, hence why Sodachi distanced herself. Afterwards, things were fine. The third break up wasn't a fight, but an inevitbility, so much so that they even supported each other in their carreers, even in suffering. The novel makes it quite clear how much they are serious for each other.

"Because no matter how ordinary it may be – I don’t want us to be looked at as a couple that separates and gets back together all the time. I had enough of dragged-out reconciliations."

Honestly, I kinda doubt we're gonna see anything past Musubi. As he always does, Nisio finished the series with a Crab end. Lets not forget that Araragi is more pragmatic and cynical in Musubi and that he is quite distant from most of the cast compared to his teenage years. He really was serious about it in the epilogue and he knows who he wants to keep.

If forced to, he would choose Shinobu over Gahara at least. The Seishiro stuff is proof of that.

People mix that up with his view on the human/vampire thing, he absolutely does not want to live as a vampire.

>He's been separated from her several times and was fine
being separated and leaving him are two completely different things in this context user.

This user gets it.

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Kaiki, Gaen, Oshino, and Kagenui can surely stop Kiss-shot right? I mean they can also call Episode for help

but they didn't do shit in the alternate dimension, kiss-shot fucked the world for good.

Not him but Musubi wasn't intended to be the end. Monster Season was announced at the same time as it's release.

>Kaiki, Gaen, Oshino, and Kagenui can surely stop Kiss-shot right?
Nope. A full powered Kiss-Shot wipes the floor with them. user, she's regarded as broken for a reason. She can literally ignore her weaknesses like the sun.

It's the chronological end.

>T.reddit who never read the novels barge in to shit on a thread
>Where
>When
>Spoonfeed me
It was going good, shame.

No. She can be outsmarted (pretty easily in fact) but if she just suddenly sperged out and blew everything up they can't overpower her.

Literally no one can do anything to stop Kiss Shot at her full strength. The only reason she endedup the way she did in Kizu is because she wanted to die.

I guarantee you that all the people in this thread trying to quote the novels haven't read it, no one here knows nip despite everyone saying that they can.

In Kabuki I assumed they were only fucked because they got caught off guard. Surely they can stop kiss-shot?

Damn, she's that strong huh.

but that's the thing suddenly she spergs out and they get royally fucked.

Some do but an even smaller minority of that group buys LNs at all

Merits and demerits of the relationship and whether you like seeing it focused on aside, why are so many crabfags so insistent on Araragi being to blame for all of their relationship issues and breakups? Hitagi's disposition and insecurities account for half of their problems - at least.

>Kabuki
Exactly what will happen even if they revive tadatsuru, tooe and her husband, and even add doll and cat and god form nadeko to the fray. And that is not even off guard, I am quite sure Gaen knew and Oshino as well except they trusted araragi to handle it well which went awry.

>Hitagi's disposition and insecurities account for half of their problems - at least.
If araragi werent such a "ill do it all prince charming" guy there would be no insecurities. He wants to fuck his sister for fuck's sake.

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Amarimono chapter 1. I'm gonna try going through the chapters and summarize. Doing so at work, so no idea what kind of progress I'll make, but I'll try to keep updating over time as I go.

Don't you?

> but I'll try to keep updating over time as I go.
Where? This thread will die soon.

That's what she likes about him though

> and Hamukai Meiko is my best bud

I dig it a lot, but I think I'm biased because I prefer reading about/watching Araragi's friendships way more than his "romances" with Shinobu/Gahara in general. I feel like Nisio enjoys writing about these fucked up friendships more too to be honest, the romance is almost always sidelined outside of a few specific arcs.

It's kind of like Araragi & Kanbaru's relationship except if they were both cynical teasing dipshits (while still being well-intentioned on both sides) to each other.

Is that the same chick from Shinobumonogatari? The one Koyomi said he treasured because she was the first friend he made through genuinely normal non-oddity related means for the first time in ages? Monster Season has way more minor background characters compared to before

>and Sengoku Nadeko is an old playmate
That's a nice way to put it.

See And even if it wasn't, she often way oversteps a reasonable level of concern, to the point of genuinely placing her insecurities over people's lives. And, ironically enough, Karen is one of the few people she doesn't get very jealous of, despite her essentially being her greatest rival in love.

And while in many other cases her insecurities would be reasonable in a normal relationship, theirs is decidedly not a normal relationship. Knowing who Araragi is - how he acts, what he's experienced, and what he prioritizes - she should also know that there are things she can't ask of him. And if those things are deal-breakers then the deal should simply be broken.

Nisio went Zaregoto/Medaka with Monogatari with all those new characters.

Why are you people even bickering? We all know that Bat > everyone else. We saw this already with Seishirou where Koyomi has to pick between helping Crab and Cat or staying to duel with her first minion, the latter which didn't need to happen at the moment from what I remember. It's always going to be Bat. She's his number one. No one is her equal. Those are the facts. So no, he doesn't love Crab just as much.

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>she should also know that there are things she can't ask of him. And if those things are deal-breakers then the deal should simply be broken.
Such as? Please don't think of fucking another girl except for me or do not be overly flirty with other girls because I am your girlfriend? Because if that's something that is a deal breaker then araragi is the one who fucks up the relationship more than hitagi.
Araragi feels like he never left highschool and after being "popular" after a lifetime of introverted self it seems he just cant move on.

There are people here who think Kiss-shot killing Yozuru, Oshino and Kaiki is her winning when the end result is that Oshino is so Batman that he had a plan to get Shinobu to eat Kiss-shot due to planning for an alternate universe Araragi getting involved.

Of course, in a straight fight Kiss-shot would beat everyone but it's a win for humanity and Oshino when the end result is that Kiss-shot kills herself via Shinobu and every zombie goes back to normal.
It's like arguing that Thor beat Jormungand because he killed him and then ignoring the fact that he died a few steps later from poison.

reddit spacing

Can kissshot areola orion heart under blade defeat nadeko god?

If the battle is straight Oddity vs Oddity then Kiss-shot wins. Oddities don't get creative enough to get around power level difference and Nadeko isn't smart enough to be able to shoot Kiss-shot out of the sky while being sniped with eye lasers.

Why does reddit love bat so much

>Please don't think of fucking another girl except for me
Aside from maybe Karen (and even that's about as likely as Gahara fucking her dad, as hard as Shaft tries to downplay that whole joke with her) who else does he fuck? Shinobu notwithstanding because she's a separate topic on her own

>or do not be overly flirty with other girls
He intentionally has Kanbaru hang out with him and flirt with him (it's always initiated by her and not the other way around) on the expectation that Araragi tells her to fuck off and to insist on hanging out with her instead, despite Kanbaru herself having tons of issues that she's not completely unaware of. Only genuine case Gahara has is with Sodachi, though even there it's pretty clear who he actually favors over the two.

>Araragi feels like he never left highschool
That's not true, most of the series is set during his highschool years and the few stories that feature him in college and above portray him to be markedly more mature (he's still a goofball in some respects but he's not going to do a total 180 in personality is he?)

Araragi definitely has plenty of flaws. The whole series is basically about his flaws being brought to light and criticized even. People here pretend that he's at fault for everything wrong in his relationships though which really is not true. Gahara and Shinobu (among others) don't get enough criticism for being total cunts if anything (also a lot of the Gahara hate is just sour grapes at her being the 'main girl' too and not legit criticism of her character)

the scene from the cover happens at the end and and is basicly a cliff hanger

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Updated with chapter 2 summary. I'll just keep ading to this one pastebin, now an ongoing one which I'll update when time permits.

>That off the cuff admission of RRRG kinks

Thank you very much

is that a reference

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is this bait?

> Even though he's become a university student, it's still more fitting to just think of Koyomi as a juvenile after all. And one who gets off to baby/mommy roleplay with his lover he might add
Wew

It is but it's referencing a truth, Yea Forums's and reddit's views about this series are basically the same

>he actually wasn't lying about being into milfs

Koyomi never lies bro

>how to spot a redditard wanting to fit in 101

It's an indirect reference.
Satan takes form of snake and convinces humans to eat an apple.
They gain consciousness, thus realizing they're naked.Since they're naked,they need clothes.And since satan gave them conscious thoughts about needing clothes in the first place,he indirectly invented clothing.

Kikey and Bat are the most popular characters across both but that's about it really

The person who translated the Sodachi conversation in Musubi mentioned how Monogatari's gotten more Zaregoto-like and vice versa as of late too

not bait at all user I was just trying to figure out why the resident batfags seethe so hard.

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How much of a fucking weirdo would she have to be in order to befriend Araragi through "normal" means?

Hitagi is just boring compared to the rest of the heroines. I don’t hate her, but I just don’t care for her at all nor the relationship she shares with Koyomi since he gets on much better with literally everyone else.

Nisio level weirdo

As I mentioned in the previous post, the only real fear of a sexual relationship (shelving anything related to Shinobu) is with Karen, who is largely exempt from Crab's jealousy for some reason. In any case, her wanting Araragi not to fuck anyone else is mostly reasonable - although we must also shelve some details, like her relationship with Hanekawa, in regards to that issue. Flirting is a different problem, given the different definitions people have for what constitutes flirting and where lines are drawn, which is in turn an issue, as she doesn't effectively communicate her boundaries, but this would still be reasonable if we once again shelve her part in it.

The problem, with all that established, is that she demands an assertion of priority. For instance Shinobu, Araragi's treasure, makes her uncomfortable. She also expects Araragi to choose her over others even outside of a romantic context, which is an unfair expectation. It's unfair to expect Araragi to look at all the people he cares about, even those other than Shinobu, and decide that their concerns are less important than Hitagi's without looking at the specifics. And it's further unfair to expect that his devotion to her gives her complete domination of his affection and concern. She's (debatably) the only one he loves romantically - but she's certainly not the only one he loves at all.

I've tried to trim this to only focus on her insecurities and expectations, but those issues are heavily related to other problems, so this isn't as clear-cut as I would have hoped.

Thanks a lot, user!

>Kaiki that low
yeah no

Are you me? This is essentially what I argue every thread. She's had a few stand out moments, but in the grand scheme of things she doesn't maintain a strong "impression". That is, her impact is felt in the moment, but her character is still weak. Individually she isn't especially compelling, dynamic, or complex. As a partner for Araragi she falls flat because she has nowhere near the chemistry with him that the other cast members do. And even in her best moments, past Nise at least, she delivers messages that could just as easily come form someone else. Her personality is irrelevant to most of her gestures and the strength comes entirely from what's being said, rather than who is saying it.

Not to mention on how you could remove her from the show and it would still be the same.

>crab partakes in this willingly
>ywn have a crab mommy gf

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>It's always going to be Bat. She's his number one. No one is her equal. Those are the facts. So no, he doesn't love Crab just as much.
Crabfags cannot accept this though, even though Crab herself admits it.

Bat is loved everywhere though

>don't get enough criticism for being total cunts if anything
Enlighten me? How was Shinobu ever a cunt?

Shinobu Mail

I said how, not when? I don't remember her being a "cunt" then.

Not him but I can think of a few
>wiping out everyone else Araragi ever cared about after Araragi died
>the whole Nadeko thing in SS was kicked off by her coming out and unnecessarily and randomly being a total asshole
>everything about the Seishiro incident in Mail; being able to end the conflict herself at any point but not doing so and letting the whole thing play out at the risk of Araragi's life, over an issue she's had hundreds of years to get over (meanwhile people here give other characters shit for not getting over their trauma's within months), over a person Yea Forums insists she doesn't care that much about compared to Araragi which only makes the whole thing worse, and only "apologising" to Seishiro after he's already been killed
None of these characters are supposed to be flawless, Nisio actually overdoes it with how retarded characters act at times to the point where it's hard to believe in my opinion

She's kind of stupid and I don't like her ever since she got more development. I miss the mute loli.

She has no qualms with eating and killing humans? She still doesn't in Shinobimonogatari

>Nisio actually overdoes it with how retarded characters act at times to the point where it's hard to believe
Hanekawa's entire character is sort of like this for me

do you have qualms on eating beef?

if I had a cute pet calf with me at all times I probably would

>>wiping out everyone else Araragi ever cared about after Araragi died
Well, considering the fact that she was pretty broken as a person, asking for headpats as a 598-year-old because she was starved for attention and because the world kept shitting on her at every turn by killing the last thing she cared for.
>the whole Nadeko thing in SS was kicked off by her coming out and unnecessarily and randomly being a total asshole
No, it wasn't kicked off because of that. True, she was kinda harsh on Nadeko.
>everything about the Seishiro incident in Mail
Okay I can agree here, that she acted very poorly regarding that situation

>She has no qualms with eating and killing humans?
Yeah, you can fuck off with this one.

real farmers don't and I doubt you would

So, maybe I missed it somewhere. But we know that Teori and Yuzuru's shared curse from making Ononoki is the whole 'not being able to touch the ground' thing, but did we ever learn what curses the other specialists got?

Izuko's curse is to know all. Kaiki's and Meme's are unknown.

Knowing everything is Gaen's curse. Kaiki and Oshino supposedly share the same curse, but I don't think it has been revealed although I might be mistaken

>and only "apologising" to Seishiro after he's already been killed
I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be ambiguous
although it really doesn't benefit the scene at all by being ambiguous
also the anime did make it look like he was gone already
Shinobu Mail was sort of shit in general really, Kanbaru being a bro wasn't enough to raise it. Absolute low point of Owari for sure.

Is he still fucking his sister in Musubi?

They have the Araragi household to themselves now since Tsukihi's abroad and their parents work in another district now. Karen got good at cooking and makes all of his meals and Koyomi's good at cleaning now and takes care of that part of maintaining the house.

Good at cleaning that pussy up hahaha jk but forreal he is.

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Teori and Yuzuru = The Floor is Lava
Gaen = To "Know Everything"
Meme = Can't Return to the Same Place Twice
Kaiki = Overwhelming Obesssion With Money and Material Gain
((This is, as par for the course with him, kind of left up to questionable truth. As in "is this REALLY his curse, or is that just how he is and is lying about what the real curse is?")

If nothing else I liked Araragi's way of solving the problem. Really my two big problems with Shinobu Mail were the animation quality and the burning questions I was left with at the end: What would Shinobu have done if Araragi lost that fight? What if he had died? What was her intention by throwing out the sword?

>Meme = Can't Return to the Same Place Twice
idgi
doesn't he return to Araragi's town when he's about to suicide with Ougi?

I'm not an incestfag in general, and Karen also is a bit of a flat character compared to the others
but man Nisio nails the "taboo but hot" feeling with her & Araragi's antics way too well even compared to everything else in this series

I agree 100%
Karen is nowhere near my favorite character in the series but her and Araragi's interactions are golden, and my favorite doujin pairing.

He couldn't get back of his own accord, it only happened between Ougi's interventon and Hanekawa jumping through hoops.

is this speculation or was this mentioned somewhere?

The toothbrush scene is kino tier shameless fanservice, even if you're a faggot who hates that sort of thing it's impossible not to admire that it exists at all

Yoimonogatari. Meme's and Kaiki's curses are unknown though.

yeah those were the ones I was wondering about, seems like a bit of a reach at least in Meme's case.

Gaen created Doll's head. Kaiki and Meme created Doll's torso and arms.

Anyone else thought the last segment with crab was complete garbage that should've been skipped?
>awful design on crab
>nothing happens
>bad animation

i think shinobus great

didn't they use Youruzu's daughter's dead body for that?

Maybe Meme and Kaiki can't go to a place without being invited there, kinda like a vampire that can't enter a house. Could be an explanation for Kaiki waiting a whole summer on a train station for Kanbaru to pass by instead of just going to her house/town. Wouldn't have much to do with the corpse's torso though

Everything after Hana has bad animation, shitty outsourced quality and awful direction. It can't be helped.

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I'm honestly just sick of Crab. I had other arguments, other reasons, and other things to say, but through it all I've exhausted myself and can now only say that I'm sick of her. I still don't hate her, and that would itself be antithetical to her boring me as she does. I'm simply sick of time being spent on such an empty character. I just don't like watching something and thinking "Yeah, I get it. That's nice and all, but can we get back to people we care about?". Araragi clearly cares about her, that's nice, but I don't care about him caring about her.

I don't know if I want to picture that. Karen is taller than Kissshot in Musubimonogatari, she is gonna manhandle Araragi.

>not wanting to picture that
You've got problems buddy

> They don't spend enough time with her character
> I am sick of the time they spend on her character

Then fuck off and ignore it, for fucks sake. I swear, you're just trying to stir up some drama.

I like my Karen cute and submissive, like when she wears skirts!

I just wish she did anything beside take credit at the end of an arc. She doesn't have to get involved, just fucking show up like Araragi's sisters. Then I would like her more. Owari had a nice start before she disappeared and did the same thing.

>taller sporty cute little sister who manhandles you into making baby Jesus cry
user please I was born ready

>implying Araragi doesn't manhandle her
His sisters are one of the few things he turns into a chad for
also out-dominating taller women is a true man's fetish

>Karen manhandling anyone
She's too much of a masochist for that

She's also competitive, so they probably just take turns
that's basically what the end of the toothbrush scene implied too

That just makes me want to picture it more.

>Karen also is a bit of a flat character
In what respect? She's certainly on the less complex end, but there are other important aspects for a character and flat has a very negative connotation. I think she has a lot of charisma is a ton of fun - traits that are just as important for endearing a character. She's also very compelling despite her (relative) lack of depth. In any case I agree wholeheartedly that that aspect is above and beyond. There's this perfect mix of a genuine emotional connection and completely shameless sexual presentation.

That's an oversimplification. What bothers me is that all of her scenes consist of emotional payoff for tension that was never built. I'm sick of having the narrative act as though this character is important and making a big deal out of her when we never spend time with her to build up to that catharsis. I would be happy if we spent less time with the offending scenes, but I would also be happy if more time was devoted to making those scenes less offensive - or else if the scenes were generally replaced with better ones.

This is a good way of phrasing the issue. It doesn't cover all of what bothers me, but it definitely feels like a part of it is her ostensibly "taking credit". I generally like to say it's that she has a bunch of importance placed on her that doesn't belong - and that she didn't earn.

her opening song is shit user I'm sorry

>She's certainly on the less complex end
I did say "compared to the others" user

Is it true crab is a cuck?

I dunno user if you were a chick and your boyfriend kissed two ghosts, lifted another's skirt, got molested by your dyke friend, showered with both of his sisters and molested them every day what would that make you

yeah
so is everyone else though which may or may not make it even

if anything Araragi a cuck

They're both cucks which makes them perfect for each other

Her opening song is pleb filter.

In all honesty I thought it was just decent at first - and even on a rewatch I wasn't very impressed - but recently I've just been listening to it for fun and I kind of love it now.

this
perhaps it just comes with the territory of the entire character being extremely attractive mentally damaged autists

ska is garbage and i wish they stopped using ska for anime ops

Holy shit we got another BatCarb fight thread again? I mean you guys doing this since how many years ago. Could you be a little bit more mature and move on to other topic?

no one's even talking about it anymore man

The scenes I really want to see in anime form
>Naked human Shinobu kisses Araragi and put saliva into his mouth
>Blonde Hanekawa beating the shit of vampires
>How shaft gonna makes us think Suicide Master as a male in anime.

>Blonde Hanekawa

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In Amari, the book that just came out, she's rocking mostly grey hair (symbolism for her continuing shift between sides, as she continues her journey into becoming Monkey from Junni Taisen) which is long again, and has returned to the megane look.

>and accepted a suicide pact with math
Am I remembering things correctly, the jap word Sodachi used for this was some sort of double meaning bullshit
mirroredtranslations missed it in his translation but I swear it was something an user here talked about before?

I love Cat with any hair color, style, and with/without glasses.

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I wish I could masturbate with a cute girl rather than just my hand fucking lucky RRRG.

Crab is shit. That is all.

Eh, Araragi's relationship with Cat says that this isn't necessarily the case, he is all over the place. He loves her but is too scared to honestly go for it, he is envious of her and wants to one up her, and he has an almost fetish for being guided by her, like a man to his goddess. Same can be said for everyone else, Ougi proved his feelings for everyone is messed up.

Pretty much this. Hanekawa is sideways glancing him whenever he tries to sweet talk her even after that emotional rejection, she knows where his heart lies and how he wants to have the cake and eat it too. It's why she watches over him, but smacks his hand when he tries to smooze on her. Hitagi still seems to hold on that she has his heart at the end of the day, but the truth is that he is entirely fickle.

If that's true she is evolving or something and Nisio is hiding it until he is ready for the impact it creates.

>If that's true she is evolving or something and Nisio is hiding it until he is ready for the impact it creates.
This novel takes place before Musubi, where it's revealed Cat has made quite the name and life for herself.

>It's why she watches over him, but smacks his hand when he tries to smooze on her.
The further the series goes the more it's clear that Hanekawa doesn't actually understand Araragi as well as she thinks she does though. Pretty much everything Ougi says about her makes it clear (not to mention Araragi's own admittance to himself in the ending scene of Ougi Dark where he's talking to Hanekawa on his way to the school), she's entirely unaware of it. You get more and more scenes like the bit in Sodachi Lost where she genuinely is mistaken about Araragi's intentions when Hanekawa says that if he took her with him to meet Sodachi over Ougi he'd let her grope her (she gets mad at him for being so juvenile, yet Araragi's reasoning was actually just that for Hanekawa to suggest that in the first place at all she had to be serious about her having to go instead of Ougi)

Well it's kind of hard to summarise and doesn't end there because this particular relationship is convoluted as fuck compared to all the others, but there's way more to it than the usual "Araragi's at fault for everything" schtick Yea Forums loves to default to. Especially in relation to Gahara it just falls flat completely, since she's stated to spend more time with Hanekawa than Araragi does from Nise onwards, I think it was in Nise where it was mentioned that Gahara & Hanekawa go on frequent outings together and refuse to tell Araragi what they do together?

Crab also says that if she & Koyomi ever have kids at least one of them will be named after Cat, Crab's pretty open about how in-love with her she is, contrary to Koyomi where it looks less like love the longer the story goes. Cat should just take the stick out of her ass and agree to a threesome already.

>refuse to tell Araragi what they do together?
Neither are gay or bi, especially Hanekawa, so it doesn't matter. Hitagi may act a certain way with her, but she'll never cross a line like kiss her. Honestly Hitagi probably told Hanekawa not to tell him what they do on their outings so that he can get a bit jealous or imagine lewd scenarios thus giving us readers more fanservice. Sometimes I feel like Nisio should just them one OT3 cause they all get on so well, even with one out of the picture.

Lmao, how so?

>less like love
Isn't the manmade shrine he made out of some of her belongings (including hair) still intact in Musubi?

He can never fuck best girl because he is actually the best girl, essentially eternally being cucked by his own existence

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I meant romantic love, should've specified that. Not denying that he has some weird cult-tier view of her but it's not the type of love that user was talking about.

>Shaft didn't have Ougi wear this during the rooftop scene in Ougi Dark
what a waste of a 10/10 design

He can definitely fuck her.

Hitagi has already made out with Hanekawa in front of Araragi, it happens after Tsubasa Tiger timelinewise, as vengeance for him kissing the lolis. Hanekawa probably loves them both romantically, but she is dead set to only have her chosen partner for herself, so she won't do it. She doesn't score the highest out of Nisio's characters ethically for nothing.

>Hitagi has already made out with Hanekawa in front of Araragi, it happens after Tsubasa Tiger timelinewise
what the fuck
how did i not know of this

He can't, it'd just be masturbation at best

Masturbating with a cute girl version of yourself would of course be much better than just your boring old hand so yeah that's a win if you ask me.
She already traced his lips a few times with her hands that's more than enough to know he can fuck her.

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Missing the cutest mouth.

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First part of your post is a complete lie. Nice try though.

>suddenly lips
It'll always look weird to me. I prefer when it's more subtle.

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>"In particular, I feel really disappointed by the fact that you were such a chicken that you couldn't even lay a finger on that lass who was sleeping with her guard down on your bed. You should have just gone on with it."

>"Just what are you expecting from me?!"

>Although she looks like an eight year old child, in reality, she's 500 years old. This experienced yet cunning vampire's degree of freedom concerning sex is actually not even on a level comparable to Kanbaru's.

>Age and gender aren't factors at all.

>Putting aside Ietsugu's story, well, she has known various eras, so it's natural. It makes sense that she turned out like this.

>"Like ten years old, that's totally the age for marriage."

>"No it's not. Not in the current Japan."

>"Although I might cause misunderstandings if I say this, from the point of view that favors species' prosperity, I think humans should marry once their menstruation comes."

>"There aren't other characters that can't be in anime as much as you."

>No wonder you couldn't speak.

I thought it was Araragi's influence in Kabuki at first, but does Shinobu into little boys or girls since the very beginning?

I watched like the first 4 seasons in a month and forgot about it, I don't even know what the series is about now

This. Feet are disgusting.

Koyomin has a really hot mom, so I don't blame him
And Crab seems like exactly the kind of bitch who would indulge in it too

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