First of all, having the genre name in the title doesn't mean it can be categorized as such. Isekai Quartet isn't Isekai.
Kenja no Mago is just...no, reincarnating into another world doesn't make it Isekai either. It's a dumb 1 minute framing device that has nothing to do with the rest of the story. That's what the genre is categorizing: the story. Not the setting. It's almost similar to Knights & Magic. But in that show the MC's memories, computers skills, and mecha obsession are what drive the story. But judging by the first episode, it's going to be another Irregular at Magic School.
>reincarnating into another world doesn't make it Isekai wew
Parker Lee
I agree with you buy you're pretty shit at making the argument.
Wyatt Richardson
Isekai Quartet is not isekai, it's a crossover. That we can agree on >reincarnating into another world doesn't make it Isekai This one no We just had slime and Tanya is coming back
>Isekai Quartet isn't Isekai Yes it is. In fact, it's like double isekai.
Gabriel Ross
>shitbaru Pot of shit into barrel of honey = barrel of shit.
Dylan Bailey
Second half of Shield Hero is airing this season.
David Johnson
But those ARE Isekai because the the MC is a catalyst for the entire world. The story isn't just in another world, it's ABOUT the other world. See what I'm saying?
Isekai Quartet isn't going to step outside of their school. The genre is: Ensemble. That's what the story is doing. Jumping around to different character perspectives.
Cameron James
The hell is that pic? Tanya is a real head of a company and is a competent commander Kazuma and his party took out 3 demon lord generals without barely leveling.
Ainz is an elementary level wageslave.
Jeremiah Davis
>reincarnating into another world doesn't make it Isekai either Fuck right off. There are 2 main kinds of narou isekai. Tensei-Reincarnation and Tenni-Transfer. There are also stuff like multiple souls in one body like isekai tensei sodouki but anyway you are retarded and should refrain from talking about something you have no idea about.
Connor Harris
Ainz had subordinates at work, was mentally augmented /tg/ autist and managed guild. Though Tanya should still be at the bottom in his stead, yes.
Those are trope names not genres, retard. Lol, could you imagine though if they were a genre? >everyday man >dies >reincarnates >That's it. The end. That was the whole point of the story.
Lucas Thomas
I know you're pretending to be retarded but it doesn't work that way.
Joseph Morris
They all reincarnate into the school setting though
LMAO no His subordinates were made by his guildmates. He only became a leader because he gets along with everyone and Touch Me wanted more time with his family
Ainz only creation is Nazarick's greatest failure locked away from view. A reflection of his competence, if I say so myself
Joseph Butler
And let us not forget that his original name was Momonga. He took on the guild name as his own name because he cannot live without doning the effort of his friends, whom he parasites on
Anthony Reed
>Ainz had subordinates at work I don't remember this at all. Please cite your source.
Jonathan Bell
>PA >top3 in intelligence and firepower in Nazarick Boy sure sounds like a failure. VR is his only reprise in a world where you have to hazmat up to even go outside. You're retard if you blame him for cherishing the legacy of fun times with his friends.
You have issues you need to work out. If you're hoping to ramble your nonsense and hope people circle jerk your shitty ideas, this is the wrong place.
Alexander Jenkins
LN. He mentions it in passing somewhere.
Nicholas Rivera
You're right. Every bookstore has a "Tenni-Transfer" genre listed. Why don't you explain the story conventions to everyone and demonstrate your competency?
What how works? I'm not about to rummage through 13 volumes just to feel a fleeting sense of superiority and accomplishment of proving something to anonymous on indonesian shoe-lacing forum.
Wyatt Nelson
Yes, the only isekai "bookstore" that matters, narou, has them.
Ethan Ortiz
Of course, and Ainz is ranked as the god of Nazarick despite being a literal highschool drop out.
Calling the ranking stupid is easy when we all have seen how the rest of the NPCs view PA
Jason Hernandez
You aren't even trying. You should at least reference the scene and book. Anyone who tries to verify your non sense might have to read up to 13 volumes simply to realize you were full of shit. Put some sincerity in your posts and get off your high horse, do you think people can't tell?
Justin Reed
ARe you a newfag? nearly all of what you are watching, every single isekai is a shousetsuka ni narou WN to LN and then to anime adaption. The reason you even call them isekai in the first place is because of Narou, both tenni and tensei are also narou terms.
Oliver Lopez
Nah I just remember him mentioning some work situation about subordinates in passing. Not about to look it up just for you.
Cameron Morales
>can't even remember the literal scene of a passing remark >can explicitly remember a passing remark without anything associated with it You don't have to, you already admitted you're full of shit because you're too stupid to understand how memory works, and you're even more stupid thinking you can convince anyone. Just shut the fuck up.
William Russell
>Ainz is ranked as the god of Nazarick With good reason: he can only be defeated 1v1 by Rubedo and whole Nazarick combined could not nail him down and kill him because he's such a fucking slippery whale. He said in vol1 right after transfer that he's confident he can get away even if everyone betray him. >we all have seen how the rest of the NPCs view PA >we Normalfag. Don't lump me together with you, I didn't give consent for this. They acknowledge his intelligence and power as for quirks - roachbro is hated even more by some NPC, there's outright enmity between Cocytus and Demiurge, that doesn't mean anything.
>PA >top3 in intelligence and firepower in Nazarick I'm checking and I can't find this statement of yours at all. PA is not in any rank at all
Camden Morgan
>It's a dumb 1 minute framing device that has nothing to do with the rest of the story So, literally 99% of every single isekai out there?
Hunter Sullivan
>intelligence rivaling those of Albedo and Demiurge >80% of Ulbert and Touch me >final defense line before the treasury Check your INT, must be pretty low.
You can write all the text walls you want over how amazing Momonga, the elementary student is But we all know how he plays
>entire stats and skills were done for show than combat >literally the weakest of the guild >a complete pushover >spent the rest of his gaming days farming mid dungeons and avoiding other players because he knows he would lose.
And stop trying to up PA when his own creator is ashamed of him
Grayson Young
>isekai quartet isn't isekai >all characters transported to another world >not isekai you're not very bright are you
Not him but it's hard to claim he's top 3 in firepower assuming he can't beat Ainz, since Gargantua most likely would give Ainz a run for his money and is the one exception of a floor guardian that wouldn't betray him, hence not being part of his calculations in previous statements. He'd be top 4 at best and this is not counting the potential raid bosses on the 8th floor.
Oliver Gutierrez
>In addition, he could always send Pandora’s Actor over. >He was the ideal choice, be it in terms of intelligence, adaptability or other areas. etc there was also bit before they enter treasury for the first time
Angel Baker
You gotta hand over to Overlord fags They love to spew shit over how great their isekai is over everything else.
You don't see other Isekai fanbases trying to jump on the high horse
Brayden Miller
>But we all know how he plays >we Didn't I tell you to fuck off?
Samuel King
Well, make me.
Carson Morris
>literally the weakest of the guild Why must you lie so terribly? Even baiting has standards.
Evan Price
only shit series categorize as Isekai
Cameron Parker
Ainz isn't guild NPC. Neither is Gargantua. Gargantua also is very narrow combat specialist and can't fullfill any roles outside of siege.
Argument was PA was created 3rd strongest guild NPC. Rubedo was created differently, probably not through guild. Gargantua is siege golem gift from admins. Ainz is a player.
Gabriel Gray
It's not, all 3 isekai are fine in Quartet. Except shitZero
Aaron Campbell
weren't the giant avataras of the 41 guild members of AOG the final defense line?
Lucas Brooks
Shoumetsu Toshi and YU-NO are isekai.
Dylan Miller
If we go by that rationale then it does make sense so long as the raid bosses are not counted as NPCs.
Camden Sanders
They're final final defense line. It's like you never conquered BBEG dungeons in a game. They don't. Actually there's nothing solid in canon about them: they've simply referred as "those on the 8th floor".
Camden Long
Konosuba fags: >Kazuma sure is a chad who knows the art of the asshole
Re:Zerofags >Subaru is a helluva bad MC but I can't hate him
Tanya >Why does everyone think she's evil when she is actually a great General who respects the laws of war?
Overlordfags: >AINZ IS THE ALL MIGHTY ONE OF ALL BEGINNING AND THE END WHOSE WISDOM FAR SUPRPASSES ITS MEANING WITH A POWER THAT CANNOT BE MATCHED BY WORDS ALONE AND HIS TALE WAS WRITTEN IN A MACABRE OF WORDS BEHELD AS THE MASTERPIECE OF LITERARY ART
Seriously, you fucks are te only ones making Isekai power level threads
Jason Howard
>Re:Zerofags >My favorite shitsetai is shat on in every thread it's mentioned >Must establish strawman and throw a fit FTFY
Henry Green
I bet you're the "native Isekai" retard.
Kenja no Mago is isekai
Jayden Jones
I think he meant that it's tensei.
Parker Gutierrez
At least they are polite enough to shut
Speak one word saying that Ainz is not perfect and Overlord fags would derail the thread
Liam Sanders
I don't care if you named your dog "Isekai". That doesn't make your dog a genre. OP is talking about the story genre name "Isekai" - not the colloquialism you retards use as an adjective or even a verb.
Logan Stewart
Everything started with this bait post And you're overreacting like a little bitch. I just remembered that he had subordinates at work and mentioned that, other faggot started wailing to spoonfeed him. That's it. I don't see any NIDF in this thread, you're retarded for even bringing that shit up out of the blue.
Levi Turner
Tensei, Isekai - same shit. Only autists would argue, like OP.
Josiah Lopez
Nay, fuck off. You fucks have created enough Isekai power level threads to be a noticeable cancer. And no other isekai fanbase do that.
Jose Sanchez
Isekai is Isekai. You can be the lone retard arguing re:zero or Konosuba isn't isekai because it doesn't matter at all in the story.
Jackson Price
There's no isekai genre as retards like you or OP think.
>Konosuba >doesn't matter Kazuma fortune begs to differ.
Elijah Morgan
The story doesn't revolve around him wanting to go home. So the fact that he was isekai'd there isn't central to the plot like the incredibly retarded OP was arguing it has to be.
Jaxon Clark
Who would win? >Ainz vs Alucard >Ainz vs Slime >Ainz vs SAO >Ainz vs Maou vs Diablo >Is there anyone who could take on Ainz? >How could anyone defeat Nazarick?
Let me say this again: You. Are. Cancer
Grayson Young
What do you mean "in" the story? The story goes in the genre.
Jace Barnes
Yea they ruined the last 3 threads about it. They will argue forever about Ainz winning even though they're all from different worlds with different universal rules yet Overlord's trumps them all because they said so.
Benjamin King
Who are you trying to fool?
Kevin Sanchez
>The story doesn't revolve around him wanting to go home. That's not what isekai means.
Caleb Lee
It does, prove me wrong.
Christopher Reed
No shit retard. >Isekai is Isekai. You can be the lone retard arguing re:zero or Konosuba ISN'T(= is not ) isekai because it doesn't matter at all in the story
Angel King
Glad you asked! >Ainz vs Alucard Alucard doesn't have timestop counter-measures, so Ainz wins.
>Ainz vs Slime Endgame Slime is Elder God by DnD standards, Ainz has no chance.
>Ainz vs SAO SAO isn't isekai. Ainz can choke Kirito in his game console.
>Ainz vs Maou vs Diablo Hard to say, Diablo has mana potions and can spam spells night indefinitely, his equipment also repels all magic but elemental attacks, which aren't Ainz forte. Diablo probably wins.
>Is there anyone who could take on Ainz? Yes, any lesser DnD god with time-stop counter-measures or a squad of competent holy magic users.
>How could anyone defeat Nazarick? If you don't have assault force equivalent of 30 100lvl Yggdrasil Players - just plunder all Nazarick surface outposts and facilities then seal them in for hundred years or so. Tomb should run out of maintenance money and it'll be far easier to conquer it without endless NPC resurrection.
>The story doesn't revolve around him wanting to go home What kind of argument is that? Are you implying any isekai where MC is comfortable not going back is not isekai? That's just retarded.
Reading comprehension is hard huh? Or are you the OP just pretending to be even more retarded?
Joshua Mitchell
Never been to any Isekai Quartet thread but I would assume that Overlordfags splerg out when Aqua hit Ainz with a low-tier spell that made him feel pain?
Nolan Allen
>So the fact that he was isekai'd there isn't central to the plot >Kazuma game knowledge isn't central >Isekai Australia being permafucked by Isekai faggots and their inventions isn't central >Kazuma fortune isn't central >Current Demon Lord isn't n-1 isekai faggot You're fucking retarded.
Jace Anderson
lol keep digging that hole
Noah Sanchez
Not if all the bullshit from your posts will keep flowing in.
Re:Zero is shit, unanimous decision of anons who have at least half a brain. Keep reflecting, twat.
Eli Smith
>Nigger literally can't read an entire almost 1 line post to the end
Christopher Torres
Then what are they talking about? Hmm?
It's a name. For a genre. If you're not talking about the story, you're not talking about the genre.
The only thing you're communicating is that they're not talking about what you're thinking about. You're never going to convince someone that they don't know what they're saying.
Dominic Torres
>When the artist does enough work for an isekai LN they start making their own.
Absolutely based, but almost criminally forgotten. Why was I not informed of this and why has nobody picked this up?
>The story doesn't revolve around him wanting to go home. So the fact that he was isekai'd there isn't central to the plot like the incredibly retarded OP was arguing it has to be. It's central to the plot you dumb twat.
Adrian Scott
There are more productive measures than taking their bait.
I want more isekai stories about boys being turned into helpless damsels getting ravaged by (a variety of) giant cocks.
Thomas Thompson
>like the incredibly retarded OP was arguing it has to be. >>It's central to the plot you dumb twat. >>Kazuma game knowledge
Well I guess we've come back to the beginning and every Isekai is in fact Isekai, as I said. Because their knowledge or skillset of their previous life is always inside.
Matthew Flores
Shield Hero is airing this season, or does that one also not count because reasons
Jonathan Morgan
>reincarnating into another world doesn't make it Isekai either Isekai literally means "another world" retard.
Noah Campbell
Yes.
Jordan Miller
>Not enough isekai where MC is GB villainess in otome game >And gets married off to the fattest, ugliest, smelliest baron son there is >While being stronger and smarter than him actually rule and uplift the fief >And beat some muscle under his fat with rigorous specops training you learned from RTW and Youjo Senki >On a day he worked out especially hard and undresses in the training hall >Greasy sweat glistering in the isekai sun >Not wanting to tell him >Come to the bedroom, don't bathe or wipe yourself off >Sniff under his balls until your head goes blank from stench >Slurp his dick cheese >His pubes get stuck in your teeth >Scream orders at him while lying pronebone face down on the bed under his 300 pounds of hairy greasy fat and muscle >Put your whole weight into it! >Pound me harder! >Now hug me tight, TIGHTER I SAID! Squish me! >Now bite my ear!
Uh yeah? A genre isn't 1 story. It a group of stories with the same story conventions. As it's been explained "Isekai" is only named after the setting, not for the setting.
This is like explain that "RPG" the video game genre is not "Roleplaying" the verb. Not every game where you're "roleplaying" is an RPG.
Not every Star Trek episode that visits a strange new would is an "isekai". How many times does it have to be repeated? Just because "isekai" means "otherworld" doesn't change the fact that it's just a name. We could call the genre anything! The point is that all the stories have something in general. Hence the word: genre.
Now, I must stress "story" here. You're grouping similar types of stories. "Female Protagonist" is not a story genre, that's a character grouping. A setting in "another world", even though that's what Isekai means, is also not a story - it's a setting.
Nicholas Nguyen
>Female Protagonist Otome >setting in another world with reincarnation or transfer Isekai
>please look for something to wear >the two girls in the picture are dressed
Charles Sanders
That's just a continuation of the last season. It's the same season. The same story. Maybe if you're a TV Producer "season" means something else in broadcasting terms. But nobody here is talking about scheduling.
Michael Smith
If you consider that dressed, I fear your wardrobe is rather lacking.
Josiah Nguyen
They are covered up, their main purpose is to get away not work on a farm or attend a ballroom dance. If it covers their tits and ass it's dressed.
Ryan Sanchez
>It's a dumb 1 minute framing device that has nothing to do with the rest of the story. user, all the magic spells and magic devices he invents are inspired by his previous life. He even creates a batch of mobile phones. He even used hydrogen to make a mountain explode in the very first episode. Hydrogen is not a known element in that world.>But in that show the MC's memories, Same with KnM, pay attention to the show next time.
Ryan Sullivan
Yes, Otome is a video genre. VIDEO GAME genre. It's a TYPE of video game. I'm sure you understand that there's more to a video game than it's characters. Just like there's more the a story than it's setting. Tomb Raider certainly isn't an otome video game for merely have a female protagonist. It's not an otome game at all.
There's more to the-genre-named-isekai than just having an isekai setting.
Time will tell if any of that remains true in the adaption. It wouldn't be the first time a genre-shift has occurred. You expect an isekai, but when all the fat is removed, you might be left with Slice-of-life.
Your knowledge of the source material isn't relevant to the taxonomy of the adaption.
Robert Morgan
>local mayor and crime boss team up to drive your dad to committing suicide That's as good a reason as ever to murderhobo I guess, but I doubt Claude can pull it off.
Asher Hughes
>Tanya >Not evil She is a perfect example of true evil alignment, she uses the loopholes in the law for her own gain. I mean declaring all civilians as enemy soldiers to justify shelling the entire city and then scorching them off singlehandedly just to get a raise is pretty much what an evil person would do
Jacob Martinez
The civilians were non uniformed combatants and carried out executions of prisoners of war. They were war criminals and brought the destruction of Arene upon themselves.
Ryder Wilson
Nice fanfic, Shalltear destroyed him 1v1, without help that got him the precious second he would be dead.
It is possible to have isekai that don't feel at all like isekai. At some point two worlds can be not separate enough. Gate is isekai, but if the worlds were connected constantly for 1000 years there wouldn't be as much of a difference between the two. What if there were two worlds that were always connected, and someone reincarnates into the other one?
Matthew Foster
What’s the name of this manga?
Adam Wood
this wtf is OP on about
Alexander Mitchell
Maybe he just doesn't like the slave look to start before he undresses them again?
Benjamin Martin
I'm actually just criticizing the censorship, because in the novel those girls are naked which is how the line works in context. The manga gives the girls dresses but retains the same line, so it makes the whole thing stupid.
Carter Collins
>ebil hyooman empire keeps preggo beastwomen slaves around I can't fully grasp the logic behind this, in terms of upkeep (if ebil hyooman empire was proficient enough with capturing demi-humans for the purpose of sexslaving or manual workforce) or by logic itself.
Joseph Green
Now that makes sense, and is inexcusable.
Hudson Evans
>eventually becomes a doormat
This is a fucking travesty
Dominic Baker
>Isekai Quartet isn't Isekai. Even if you want to make the argument that the 4 main characters are just being transported back to something resembling their original world, that isn't the case for literally every other character in the cast. This is your brain on isekai. You stop thinking about anything besides the self-insert.
William Harris
Who?
Owen Clark
>killing partisans is evil user that's like saying pest control is evil.
Gabriel Allen
Nice reading comprehension: his calculations were perfect, he just got sentimental about killing her in that last second.
She was a doormat the moment Rudeus saved her from a kidnapping, the only difference was she grew up and that childish spunk you people call a personality naturally faded. Losing your entire family tends to do that, but at no point did Eris react much differently to Rudi, at most she 'challenged' him in trivial and oftentimes comedic ways and the boner killer was ultimately just a misunderstanding.
Just accept it, you guys just want Eris to hog Rudi so why not be honest about it? It's way more insecure to make poorly masked posts when everyone knows everyone is thinking with their dicks, not their heads.
Angel Foster
Slavery might be illegal and making slaves highly-sought after luxury for the rich. Kind of like cocaine is in US.
John Peterson
>With good reason: he can only be defeated 1v1 by Rubedo That's just fanfiction territory user. The Guardians overestimate him not realizing they have raid bosses to his player character
Easton Ortiz
Pic isn't a proof of that. From what I remember he just didn't make it time, but got bailed out. 1v1 he would be a very dead undead.
Brandon Kelly
>From what I remember he just didn't make it time t. animeonly He hesitated at the last moment.
Bentley Walker
He's beaten his hard-counter user, surely he can beat anyone else.
Zachary Diaz
Its cause theyre all albedo fags that want to get boned
>no, reincarnating into another world doesn't make it Isekai eithe No, it is. /thread
Nolan Russell
You want to know how to shut those thread or not let them troll your threads? Just don't respond... dont be but hurt dont take the bait dont be weebusmaximus and think you have to win every fight in Yea Forums. its easy
>It's a dumb 1 minute framing device that has nothing to do with the rest of the story Yeah, isekai.
Isaac Gray
>He mentions it somewhere lol ok then
Henry Collins
Even a blind man can see that this is a shitty Yea Forums tier bait and you retards ate it right up.
Carter Smith
>When I need to sort files by jpg I go by the creation date instead. >When I need to categorize shows by stories, I use character elements Ok buddy. Just remember to wear your helmet.
Jace Carter
It's just collateral damages. To make omelette you must break a few eggs. There is no war that can win without civilian casualty.
Brayden Thompson
Source?
Jordan Baker
>Isekai Quartet isn't Isekai It literally is though, they all get isekai'd to the crossover world.
Because nobody ever completes them. The readership craves closure. But the wannabes don't know how to deliver anything beyond than an opening premise. >"After walking into oncoming traffic he finds himself in this other world" >And then what happens? >I dunno, I didn't think I'd make it this far.
Josiah Powell
Legend tells of an user that new what the Isekai genre was all about. But the others mocked him and recited simple definitions as if the name said it all.
Jason Lewis
all right, can any one point me to any stories about seducing and getting the villainess? Love me that kind of shit
>Bell = Baal >Hajin must cheat on Boss with Sahyuk to save the world
Cameron Wright
>As she watched Boss charge towards her like a ray of light— Jin Sahyuk smiled leisurely. >“I’m used to things like this now.” >She’d gotten beat up too many times to be surprised.
Zachary Carter
Sadly I think you'll only find that in hentai
Jason Butler
>“The first and foremost thing you should do before establishing a personal domain is…” >She raised her head and looked out into the surrounding nature. >The grass, trees, and streams were all full of magic power. This land would make an excellent ‘magician’s domain’. >“…buying the land.”
>Kenja no Mago is just...no, reincarnating into another world doesn't make it Isekai either.
why does this thread have so many replies when OP proved himself a complete idiot in one sentence?
Blake Clark
>Keep getting recommended 'Solo Leveling' >See it all over these threads >Fine, fuck >"OH GOD I'M SO WEAK I DON'T EVEN USE WEAPONS AND ARMOR BECAUSE OF THE REPAIR COSTS" >"HE'S THE WEAKEST" bullshit from every single character that shows up for the first 5 chapters >"What? Eh? Who's that guy? The weakest? lol this dungeon is going to be easy" >10chapters later >"GREAT, NOW I CAN BECOME THE STRONGEST!"
>chinese >killed a countless number of civilians and Heroes for pleasure. He didn’t even budge while committing a massacre that would go down in history What did the author mean by this?
What’s the point of Reality Manipulation again? Everyone and their dog seem to be breaking through it with ease.
Jack Nelson
I'm expecting him to team up with the knight here.
Connor Nelson
Maybe that's because she's been bullied so hard that she can't manipulate reality adequately due to subconscious insecurities. This means Hajin has to fix her up and we can get an arc of Hyuk pampering while Boss seethes in the background.
William Perry
Why are korean mangas so... sparse with their paneling.
Levi Ross
Japanese isekai rapes about as much as all the other isekai
Is this bait? You don't even need to read, you just need to see that moment in the anime. He literally hesitates, instead of instantly smashing the glass he gave her time to realise how he'll shorten the cast time and when she realised how and saw his right hand he was literally just standing there.
Evan Miller
People think they know japanese but can't decern the genres context. It's like "Bara". People try using it as a adjective or demographic. But can't make sense of the genre being named after a rose because retards can't into figurative language.
OP bumping it. This thread is pure shit and if anyone actually tries to talk about it, they are complete idiots for taking OP seriously to begin with.
Mason Collins
It's not "Another world" it's "Parallel World" Keyword: Parallel
The character's situation, quest, whatever you want to call it, is a parallel to their lifestyle or personal hangup.
Digimon Adventure 01 is Isekai because their crests in the Digital World - a "virtual world" - where based of the virtues they demonstrated in the real world. Digimon Tamers is not Isekai. They go to the digital world but there is no parallelism.
In Genmu senki Leda, the main girl likes a boy and wrote a melody for him, but she doesn't know how to approach him. Connect to him. Then she's taken to another world where a dark lord thinks the music she wrote is some magical formula with "the power of Leda" and uses it to cross dimensions. It doesn't workout for him. But the girl realizes the music was just a symbol for something else that was already connecting her to this boy. That's the Parallel. That's what the story is doing.
That's also why "Native Isakai" is a retarded concept that misses the point of categorizing the type of story that it is.
Alright then. Let's hear your literary analysis. Oh wait. You don't have one because your not naming the story; you're just defining a vocabulary word.
Isekai just means different world, or alternate world. So either reincarnation or teleportation into a different world would make the story isekai. It's that simple. There is nothing ambiguous about it. Why are some Yea Forumsnons still confused about this? You could argue that it's a plot device or a setting, not a genre, but stop trying to redefine the term.
It's not about definitions; it's about context. You really think you can tell OP what he means? You're recontextualizing the genre name from a noun to adjective. All you're communicating is that you don't understand how genres work. I'll damn if someone on Yea Forums doesn't try to make you understand.
For example, Tragedy is a name of a genre. A noun. You can say it's a sad story because the word tragedy is synonymous with sadness. But "sad" is an adjective, you're describing a quality within the story, which is different from putting the story itself into a category with similar stories under the name "Tragedy". When when we say "It's a Tragedy" in this context, you're not saying it's sad. You're using a synechdoche. A figure of speech that used the genre's name to refer to the story. Like referring to a team by their hometown name. "The town won the game" The town didn't literally win, the team did.
Not every sad story is a Tragedy; just like every not every otherworld setting is an Isekai. You can't argue their meaning because it was never you're meaning. You can only interpret. Doing otherwise is just conceited and retarded; because why would you interpret something in a way that doesn't make sense and then argue that your interpretation doesn't make sense? An understanding of genres have been broken down repeatedly in this thread, and what do people do? They pull out a thesaurus to try to take it out of context. Pretend to be retarded than admit they were wrong.
>You really think you can tell OP what he means Nobody cares about his retarded interpretation.
Benjamin Russell
They're shitposting are you so dense not to understand it? Just like that one faggot who tries to make native isekai a thing. >You can only interpret. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Isekai is genre about transfer or reincarnation into other world. Any other opinion on isekai is retarded.
Levi Smith
>chink anime I assume it's mostly not on NYAA. Where do I track this shit? Some might be decent.
It's objective taxonomy; not subjective opinion. The transfer or reincarnation into other world is a literary device to frame the story. A trope. Not a genre.
Grouping these shows together based on a broad understanding that non of them are set on earth or in the present, is a useless endeavor the misses the point of categorizing stories for a general audience.I repeat GENERAL. Like Genre. Genius. Gender. It's the kind of retardation that booru boards encountered, with autistics flooding useless tags like "Blue Finger Nails" as if there are connoisseurs who seek extraneous details like that.
Nathan Wood
> A trope. Not a genre. And you are speaking objectively?
Jason Ross
> A trope. Not a genre. You're the only one fixated on making it a genre.
Nathaniel Nguyen
We get it! It's not the essence of the story. If they can't understand that, just let them eat glue.
Dylan Richardson
dem good animations
Ryan Wright
she reminds me of aqua too much
Chase Ross
>great censoring of 2012 what happened?
Daniel Campbell
Lots. Clearly Aqua could easily kill Ainz in a fight if Kazuma hadn't stopped her. Aqua>>>>>Ainz
Brandon Reed
Chinks started to censor novels. >we Good, now fuck off back to where you cane from and take your retard buddies with you.
Leo Nelson
Looks like Slice-of-Life to me. I mean, unless the fact that she poisoned herself with her own cooking is going to come time play in later episodes.
Ryan Moore
Nah I'm not him and it's a genre alright.
Hunter Lopez
>clearly It's not clear to me. Is this the place where you will call me retarded fanboy?
David Moore
what name?
Lincoln Nelson
>Make joke post >Overlord autist takes it as a personal attack You Overlord types really are no fun. You take this shit way too seriously.
Aqua could definitely beat that smelly undead though.
Nathan Cooper
>iwasmerelypretendingtoberetarded.jpg
Juan Sullivan
Government started to restrict the writting of WNs. Banning almost all lewd stuff and things that could be interpreted as being against communism.
Juan Phillips
>ywn have wine fight with strong busty erofu in the middle of the night IT HURTS
>Kenja no Mago is just...no, reincarnating into another world doesn't make it Isekai either. It's a dumb 1 minute framing device that has nothing to do with the rest of the story
By that standard 99.9% of the isekai shows are not isekai. And I agree on that.
Daniel Gonzalez
People need to watch Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor and realize that your mutual understanding of a subject is holding you back from mastering it.
Pretty sure OP knows what he said was counter-intuitive. But he makes a good point. Not like any of you are going to write your own Isekai. But if you ever did, you wouldn't display much competency by merely setting it in a different world. Anyone can do that!
I just binged watched Re:Zero and man the MC is insufferable. The premise of dying and restarting the day is interesting like All You Need is Kill I liked the movie with Tom Cruise better but the show just wastes it with just singular possibilities. I guess when your MC is a NEET he can't think of fun or interesting ways to abuse his powers.
Henry Anderson
>I liked the movie with Tom Cruise better Manga is even better than movie.
Elijah Parker
I agree for the most part, but you have to remember that power isn't actually his to abuse. Like it has a will and agenda of it's own.
Carter Gutierrez
I'm a sucker for feel good endings
I haven't read the manga. I guess he isn't used to dying yet with only a couple of loops under his belt until the last episode. I just don't know if I can take all the drama he keeps doing and instead of training to improve his skills.
Leo Kelly
‘Must a name mean something?’ Alice asked doubtfully. ‘Of course it must,’ Humpty Dumpty said with a short laugh: ‘my name means the shape I am–and a good handsome shape it is too. With a name like yours, you might be any shape, almost.’
>waaagh look on how cool, pragmatical and witty I am for refusing to accept literal definition of a word that has long since become a definition of a genre No cookies here.
Nah you don't, 99/100 anons would still call you retarded. It's not like you have to abide by majority, just expect to be called a retard and no one agreeing with you.
Michael Brooks
Pretty sure authors write to fulfill genres not demographics. Obviously. The reader is outside the story so they have nothing to do with what it is.
Christian Garcia
What would you call these? Passionate Villainy?
Justin Lopez
>The reader is outside the story so they have nothing to do with what it is. This post hurt my brain. Do you know nothing of demand and supply? Isekai are your perfect escape for an aging Dragon Quest generation that is too preoccupied with work to pursue any other hobbies or relationships. This is why it's so popular: because authors are writing it for demographic.
>genre is a social construct Tumblr actually believes this.
Jason Kelly
what's the difference between native isekai and regular fantasy?
Lucas Ortiz
does that mean most of the novels I'm reading was made before 2012?
Nicholas White
What do read?
Jayden Bailey
series like God of Slaughter and Long Live Summons
Gabriel Brooks
Are you in China? I think he's talking about ONE CHINA politics and their internet firewall.
Alexander Jenkins
I'm reading chinese novels, you'd think their politics would have anything to do with them.
Elijah Clark
>the names of things have to be taken literally >all cartoons are anime because anime literally means animation
Jordan Rivera
Those came afterwards. The censorship was mostly towards Authors who were critical towards the government and sex scenes. They banned almost every word directly related for sex. That's why everybody says twin peaks instead of tits and uses other metaphors for sexual acts.
Camden Smith
what
Jayden Clark
Fantasy is extended hyperbole and metaphorical reversals. Native Isekai (if there is such a thing) probably refers to dream worlds or VR where parallelism is a manifestation of the unconscious or some sophisticated algorithm such as Cardinal. And not hinged on the coincidental crossing between plains of existence.
It means their authors are in the dark about what the rest of the world is writing and can't stay relevant. It's like Avatar the Last Airbender was nothing but commentary on current events between the Chinese government and the Dali Lama - and would have censored it as propaganda.
Asher Jenkins
wouldn't have noticed due to the genre's love of their idioms and metaphors still doesn't stop them from making "Stallion" MCs (their words not mine)
Really feels more like all the censorship is doing is making lot of Shakespeare-style "this is totally not our current monarch guys, watch how he dies horribly from policies the government totally isn't doing right now"
David Hughes
Just looking at regular Isekai. The Raising of the Shield Hero isn't a good example. The anime doesn't make it apparent - and it might never reveal it - but the heroes weapons and curses are reflection of their previous life. It's both Isekai and Fantasy.
*Spoiler Alert*
Spear Hero was a 2-timer and was murdered for it. He unlocks an ability turn back time. Sword Hero took justice into his own hands and was murdered while playing detective. He is eventually curse so that he can't hold anything. Bow Hero was arrogant walked out into traffic as if having the right-of-way would protect him from the laws of physics. And died. He's curse is yielding to everyone else. Shield Hero isolated himself from the world and escaped to books. Now he's isolated with no escape. I don't know the full story with the Hunting-Tool Hero but she(he?) played games to pass time. Then got trapped in a labyrinth where time passes her. See the poetic irony? It's crunchy stuff.
>He unlocks an ability turn back time. that doesn't sound like much of a curse
Levi Sanchez
The curse is seeing women as pigs. Turning back time is his redemption arc because he commits himself to Filo.
Xavier Jackson
*redemption spin-off
Adam Foster
Source?
Brandon Johnson
>Isekai Quartet isn't Isekai. It is. You're like one of those autists spamming NATIVE ISEKAI except in reverse.
Henry Gutierrez
As opposed to what you twat are spouting? Yes, certainly.
Joseph Turner
>Bow Hero was arrogant walked out into traffic as if having the right-of-way would protect him from the laws of physics. And died. He's curse is yielding to everyone else.
>fantasy is native isekai >isekai isn't a real genre >reincarnation doesn't count What's the next dumbass hot take that idiots will peddle till it becomes established as native isekai regardless of the truth?
Reincarnation only counts if the story uses the previous life for context and not just a framing device.
You know what a framing device is? It's like, you know now fantasy stories begin with a creation myth and battle of the gods and what not? But then none of that is relevant to the rest of the plot, a god doesn't appear. Or like, it explains an on-going war between 5 nations, but then the story is self-contained to 1 nation and has nothing to do with the war. That's a framing device.
Thomas Bailey
are you asking how genres are decided if not by strict definitions? genre isn't a science. art categorization is subjective and changes with tastes and trends. isekai as a genre that has been associated more with the now cliche stories they usually tell rather than the initial setting. it shouldn't be that difficult to understand something like anime doesn't have a strict definition but still have people intuit what they think is or isn't anime.
Strict definitions are yesterday. If author wants to call tentacle penis potato Valkyrie - that's Valkyrie now.
Brayden Russell
That's true but it will still be heresy.
Easton Edwards
Friendship is magic, magic is heresy. Therefore heresy is magic and everything goes with magic. Stop being such a stuck-up lorefag. There's nothing wrong with male valkyries.
is this an argument people actually use? that you can't change the nature of a fictional class of character? fucking Tolkien himself had a field day with what shit like elves and dwarves were compared to their mythological counterparts.
if it's one fucker going to another world entirely, it's isekai. period
native isekai doesn't exist, that's just regular fantasy time travel really isn't isekai, but I guess it has the same appeal
Jacob Sullivan
>actually bothering to read the german Just don't bother, and treat it as some kind of illegible magic text that the author made up, you'll be happier for it.
Wyatt Sullivan
If it's not fucker but just his memories getting reborn - that's tensei.
Maybe it's like something else with multiple worlds like Dresden Files and the actual words/language used don't matter.
Adam Smith
No, she's really completely ruined. I could still bear with her new body belonging from an irredeemable beast-thot, but her personalty going 180 (from a snarky shark-teethy to a slobbering-for-MC-dick monster titty) is ABSOLUTELY HARAM
Zachary Lee
She was slobbering before, probably just insecure. You'd turn into a thot in such a body under 7 seconds too.
Juan Hughes
Personality changes are bad, even if she somehow had her original appearance after that was done. She should stay snarky and then occasionally offer to take it after some time passes, then the MC can reasonably start accepting her offers.
Liam Howard
Reasonable MC wouldn't refuse the first one but that's japanese isekai MC we're talking about.
Maybe the first time he could think she wasn't serious, but those who keep rejecting offers without even testing how far he could take things are trash.
Ethan Thompson
>involve a gruesome, brutal death of a relevant person in one story plot >artist can't properly depict it FUCK indeed
>mfw literally dreamed of 12/10 girl that's being discriminated and marginalized until I take her in at a bargain since I was 8 y/o Is that something genetic in male brain?
