Look, I'm all for the MC getting slaves if he needs some especially if it's legal where he ends up, but is glorifying slavery like this really necessary? >Festival to enslave the slave's soul to the master's with the cycle of reincarnation for all eternity so no matter when or how they're born, they'll always be the master's servant. >This is presented as a good thing.
It's beyond criminal what it's doing to my dick. and my heart
Adrian Jackson
You're coming at this wrong: the isekai fantasy is not to own a slave, but to be a slave and recieve better care and rights than their current black company employee existence. So obviously, being a slave gets bigged up as this amazing, wonderful thing.
Julian Wood
The fact he isn't already creating bonds with her that could be used for someone else to reincarnate into is beyond criminal.
Asher James
Saving as many slave damsels as possible from horrible fate of being owned by cruel masters is ethical duty of any moral modern person in Isekai!
>vrmmo >all the players actually care about questing and the plot of the game
suspension of disbelief immediately ruined
Anthony Mitchell
To refute it, you would have to name one isekai manga that's better than a single vrmmo manga. You've given a reply but not a refutation.
Ian Bailey
FURRY, WHERE ARE MY CHAPTERS!?
Daniel Lewis
Youjo Senki
SAO
Anthony Sullivan
Guys, did you know that a cup of hot water can cure cancer? The Chinks said so.
Landon Baker
That's just Meng Hao giving another sermon on the Dao of Alchemy. Pay no heed.
Benjamin Ross
What else did you expect? Isekai stories represent everything that's wrong with otaku.
Isaac Hill
SAO doesn't really fit into the vrmmo genre, since the stakes were entirely real A couple things, but the points that stick out is that vrmmo's are usually more comfy and have more going on, while isekai generally seem to focus on beast slaying and get boring
Matthew Brown
low iq post
Dylan Howard
a lot of isekai are comfy, that's what the cheat powers are for. a lot of vrmmo are just grinding
Kevin Gomez
based
Wyatt Flores
there's nothing comfy about isekai, they all follow the exact same pattern discombobulated in a forest > discover cheat powers after life endangering encounter > fateful encounter with cute beast girl or slave > mocked at the guild registration > shocks everyone by pulling dead dragon out of spatial inventory
at least with vrmmo, the path each protag takes is unique, and their skills develop in a way that matches their personality. it makes their titles and achievements that much more special, because it's all made possible the protag mentality
Chase Lewis
BIG WOLF(girl) MILKIES or maybe not, and instead go for a lame excuse like the MC instantly growing up into a teenager because CHEAT POWERS
I forget which series did that, but the instantly growing up from magic hax was pretty dumb. If that's the route you're going to take, just have him reincarnate at that age in the first place...the whole point of being a child is having a childhood, and they just skip that part.
Benjamin Evans
Man, Bakarina is a fun read. I expected to find an animal dung but I found gold instead.
Adam Wilson
Our society is at a breaking point. Realize that human rights have 20 Years left - TOPs, thanks to automation. The Japanese are doing the sensible thing: their media is right now discussing the possibility of bringing back slavery. OUR elite has already decided that we should be exterminated with a giant ethnic cleansing. That’s why we don’t get it
Jace Ross
You can tell if a VRMMO novel is going to be shit by knowing if there's RMX and a RM auction house.
Michael Davis
Only VRMMO ones I've liked are Moonlight Sculptor and Yureka.
Josiah Martin
>Yureka will never ever finish getting scanlated I waited years and it only went up a few chapters.
Elijah Rivera
It kind of jumped the shark with the whole assassinating people in game thing.
Matthew Reyes
I don't care, I just want to see whether Lotto manages to save Yureka.
Ryan Campbell
The art's pretty bad, come to think of it, LN/manga artists around have become increasingly worse for these isekai coming from Syosetsu. Compare to pic related. Can you compare beauty like to generic ones?
You just realized the God of Contracts is an asshole? And MC flubs the ritual on purpose anyway.
Luke Bell
Asking why isekais glorify slavery is like asking why fast-food companies put shitloads of sugar and fat into their food. Grubby, mass-produced shit which offers no real value but sates your guilty desire is what they do.
Eli Thompson
>god kills a girl for reading too many books >girl's dying wish to god is to read lots of books >god isekai her into a world where books are very hard to come by
I mean I do, but does anyone who doesn’t support slavery?
Joseph Ross
You forgot that if she gives up reading books she dies while being bedridden most days regardless.
Brody Thompson
The problem is isekai slavery is merely one kind of slavery, and poorly conceived one at that. Presumably there was sort of institutional slavery in Japan, beyond merely feudalism, just like everywhere else. But considering most isekai is vaguely European fantasy themed, it seems to mirror modern western conceptions of slavery born out of the cattle slavery and the African slave trade. Which was itself largely a peculiar form of slavery, historically speaking, brought about by the necessity of large physical labor in the agricultural new world and the rise of large global trade through the Atlantic.
This is at odds with other forms of European slavery, such as Greco-Roman slavery which was not nearly as racially charged as later African slavery nor as permanent. Or other similar forms of indentured servitude like serfs, which were tied to land rather than a commonly moved commodity like African slaves.
This is mostly the result of isekai manga having a half baked concept of slavery born out of consuming too much porn, rather than anything else I suppose. We just get "hurf durf elf slave what do?" without any of the sort of economic or social history that led to, supported, and justified to the slave owners the various forms of slavery that existed.
>>This is presented as a good thing. Except it isn't and is shown that with literally no one in history going through with it.
Noah Bailey
Historically the most common form of slavery besides debt and criminal slavery was the slave of conquest, i.e. a war prisoner clapped in irons. In fact, a lot of tribes went to war specifically to grab slaves, both male and female, and not to hold territory.
Jackson Morales
Books are for nerds.
Luke Sanchez
my problem with isekai slavery is how little sense it makes. in a lot of them the slaves were just normal citizens who committed no crimes until criminals kidnapped them randomly or killed their village and then sold the survivors into slavery sometimes in their own country which is apparently completely legal and not at all reprehensible since they are sold on the white market publicly and the country doesn't give a shit about one of their towns being razed off the map apparently or the basic rights of their subjects within their own territory
Camden Cox
>haha, sorry got distracted from paid chapters by GBF FOR A MONTH >Here's some, get more out later >Later... At least I know at some point there will be chapters, unlike Tutorial is too Hard.
This actually isn't all that uncommon in Japanese feudal history, apparently. Selling kidnapped people, especially orphans, as slaves to places was an actual thing. Probably more common during turbulent, warring states times obviously, but a thing nonetheless. Bandits raid a town, sell some people to an inn or a brothel in another area, who's gonna come asking questions about some peasants? Maybe the bandits will eventually get caught, what with being bandits, but no officials gonna make sure all the people they kidnapped go back home.
So that weird local perception of historical slavery probably gets mixed in with all the weird race based slavery in fantasy in a typical nonsensical slurry. It's worth noting this is also distinct from the chattel slavery familiar to westerns. These slaves were more like indentured servants, who if not necessarily freed someday also did not necessarily pass on their slave status to others and could marry free people if their slavery was bought out or rescinded. It's more like your labor was owned, not your bloodline in perpetuity.
All my knowledge of Japanese slavery comes from Usagi Yojimbo.
Luke Jones
Is Necromancy a form of slavery?
Juan Campbell
title?
Jacob Cox
Heck even African-American slaves were given a certain level of freedom. Enough even to form their own culture and traditions.
Isekai slaves remind me of max security prisoners with exploding collars.
Sebastian Williams
Except the collars are made of adamantium.
Eli Lewis
Depends on whetever you're using souls to power your boys or are just making dead matter move via magic, the first case is slavery while the latter is just using shit no one else needs.
>Reading the Wandering Inn >Yea Forums says it goes to shit later on >Get to volume 4 >It still isn’t shit yet
Granted, some characters are a bit annoying and I’m not a big fan of the chapters written in first-person, but it’s still pretty good - especially since it actually focuses on other characters besides the MC and shows that her actions can have consequences.
Ryder Cook
You can assume isekai authors are pro slavery anyway.
No, shit like The Lazy King has more merit in its 16 chapters than Re:Zero does in its dozen volumes.
Christopher Cox
Do otome games even have rival girls?
Charles Green
I like this, because he can, literally, gas the gobs.
John Jones
Not as otome isekai portrays them.
Ethan Lee
Rarely. If anything otome isekai nonsense might inspire some publishers to shit out one of those as a experiment, "might" is the keyword here though as the audience for otome isekai things and actual otoge are different so they'd be taking a risk here.
Jose Cooper
adding rivals makes it an NTR game
Andrew Stewart
Clearly the grim reaper got isekai'd by accident, reincarnated as a human, and then returned to earth after fullfilling his purpose.
Juan Wilson
They're supposed to, but in isekai they get either the incompetant villain treatment, fall for the MC and become their fangirls, or else are irrelevant as the story starts where the game/book ended.
Elijah Young
Some suspicious lady offers you a potion that might or might not be too strong for you, do you take the risk?
Imagine getting isekai'd in the world of Atelier and you also get the chance to plow those cute alchemist.
Mason Cruz
The last time she pulled some crazy shit it was permanent and they had to send people out to rip the soul from a devil out and use it as ingredient for a potion to reverse the effect.
Elijah Baker
More like they drug you and you get plowed repeatedly for encroaching upon their coven.
Carson Garcia
Oh Shit, The HYPE Didn't expect OP mc to be dwarfed in just 3 chapters, 6 digit darkness dragon.
You can't handle my potions, traveler. They are too strong for you.
David Sanders
if you refuse you are clearly of the weakest
Mason Ortiz
>People acting like death matters >In videogames
I strongly refute this.
Bentley Peterson
Moral fagotry has gone so far, that author has to apologies for each & and every thing that is not the current norm. Like, what the hell?
And my chinks and japs are doing it inside their fucking work. A common situation: >A character does something shady >Right after the fact, in the next fucking sentence author goes on about how wrong the shady act is after all and maybe it shouldn't have been done after all >Then curves the shady act into making it milder, betraying the setting, situation & the character. >Some part of world-building goes down the drain >Nothing actually gets explored and everything return to the comfy morality >Harem thrown in just so that someone buys the shit of garbage.
Cooper Garcia
I like this but the fucking 3D art makes me sick half the time.
Wish they'd commit to properly morally grey / pragmatic protagonists instead of whitewashing everything because they're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
Jayden Harris
I enjoy slavery in isekai because I have severe trust issues and low self esteem. I wouldn't trust a girl, but when she wears a collar and literally dies when she betrays me then I feel safe. I'm also incredibly depraved and get excited when I think about forcing my fetishes on someone who can't fight back. Fuck you.
Mushoku Tensei can be seen as the standard for 'Reincarnation isekai'. It has decent: World building, Character development (everyone grows in the story, except for Roxy, she's a goddess and thus - perfect already), Magic system, Story and is paced well most of the time.
Dylan Richardson
>Isekai slaves remind me of max security prisoners with exploding collars. This is where things start to make no sense. If your civilization possesses a technology that can completely enslave sentient beings for eternity en masses without any consequence and with a dirt cheap price, the ruling class must be utter retards to not apply this kind of collar on the entire population.
Anthony Anderson
Maybe the ruling class is all secretly enslaved by gods and ordered to not abuse the collars.
Matthew James
>the king apologizes for being betrayed >guards calling out to king, not even bowing has there been an actual king in history that was such a pushover to his subjects It's all these small details along with anachronistic shit that makes me hate 99% of isekai so much.
Won't they just make an eroge disguising as an otoge with a villainess?
Hudson Wright
Yeah I get it. My only problem is why isekai authors are such hacks.
Owen Torres
>Female NTR Hot.
Kayden Morales
Kings in Isekai has to be pushover, because otherwise, there would be nothing for the SI to do.
Aiden Campbell
>when she wears a collar and literally dies when she betrays me then I feel safe If she still has a free will, she can easily create a situation that will lead to your death, since you are too retarded and insecure.
Michael Bennett
Japs ain't got no humanity
Jace Harris
Explain Kessel and Kinslayer then.
Owen Powell
We both know that Kingdom's Bloodline is a exception.
I'm sure that made sense in the scenario you came up with, but I would be happier if you'd stop fantasizing about me.
Ian Lopez
but there's only 6 translated chapters. It's too soon to tell if it'll actually stay enjoyable or if it'll just go stale reusing the same misunderstanding gag for 100 chapters before anything new happens.
Justin Reyes
Emperors/Kings in chink isekai actually acts like rulers and isn't a pushover strangely
Benjamin Foster
I want to see a John brown Isekai where he leads a successful slave revolt and takes over the country.
Levi Russell
That's mostly because chinks are used to rulers being more than figureheads, as all of them got where they are by making rivers of blood flow.
If it doesn't have multitude of povs then its crap,
Jacob Gray
Binging on isekai for the past weak actually made me dream of an isekai. It went like this. >the entire Earth accidentally gets transported >to the most populated part of the galaxy >turns out we were located in the remotest, loneliest, most backwater place >now there's alien neighbors everywhere >everyone finds humans cute >humanity's "cheat" is that they have the cutest most sexually attractive form of all sapient beings >bad aliens start abducting us for sex >good aliens try to protect us hoping for sex >the Oni amazon lesbians, P'orc aliens and blue skinned bishounen are attracted to human girls >the Bara/amazon aliens and furries are attracted to guys >metrosexual space elves just want to conquer us >various alien factions try to woo/dominate earth >mfw my dream was a reverse harem otome isekai with humanity as the lead girl
Just read WN since the whole story was done. It’s good, but after story is so boring.
Ryan Phillips
>Spartacus, Ned Turner, and Nelson Mandela got isekai'd.
Kayden Evans
Where do people get the uncensored version?
Joshua Phillips
everyone is too passive that he's the only actual one actively chasing bakarina. Shit, even the latest chapters he's still trying that it almost heartbreaking. No wonder people dropped it hard
otome isekai's need more addie and mary type of chemistry since its fun when the pair are great to read and in tune most of the time
Lucas Williams
There's an uncensored version?
John Ramirez
There definitely is. I've only seen raws though, no idea why scanlation groups always use censored versions instead, or in some cases even go out of their way to censor it by redrawing. Makes me wonder why they even bother with ecchi series.
>One is primarily male, one is primarily female What, no. They're both aimed at women. The demographic among women may be different, but that's all.
Caleb Hernandez
Christ. Could you link me to the raws, please? And hell, it could be worse. Like those ecchi series where everything is censored with big fucking drawings of the characters or whatever.
Jackson Torres
doesn't fucking help the op was made by a slave fetish nigger
Nathaniel James
Not really, but Otome isekai is not the same market as Otome games. One is primarily male, one is primarily female. Having a "rival" in an Otome isekai is an excuse to have another vagina that isn't the main girl.
It's the same reason why most "harem" series doesn't have a rival character who is a legitimate threat to the MC.
Of course, there is already so much off topic shit, this might as well be the general thread.
Oliver Adams
>What, no. They're both aimed at women. The demographic among women may be different, but that's all. Sure, there are some, but a huge chunk are primarily aimed at guys. Just look at the publishing magazine for the intended demographic. If it is published in Hana to Yume, Ribon Mascot Comics, Margaret, etc, the main target is women.
Nathaniel Carter
I hope she doesn't die, but her whole "smart people are liars" mantra seems like Sasae will have to kill her(assuming the dumb sister doesn't interfere again.
Christopher Allen
I think she's been made sympathetic enough to let her live. The Smart People are liars thing is for when it's revealed the daba king is a clever wizard and she leaves the country with the familia.
I just hope Sasae keeps his mitts off her, she's too pure.
Mason Martin
Pain is just something to remind us that we are alive user. Embrace it and love your pain.
Adam Murphy
to suffer is to live, to live is to suffer. Embrace it, for it is the one truth in this world and be glad that you are alive for our time here is a short one. Find the things that lessen your suffering but never forget it.
Jace Rivera
i almost want her to become part of the harem some how, maybe as an extra vanguard
Lucas Cooper
So how is her personality in the mana depleted form different? More curt?
Jonathan King
More willing to get gobbed. Oddly enthusiastic about getting gobbed, even.
>but a huge chunk are primarily aimed at guys Like what? Most villainess manga are released either under the Arianrose Comics or Flos Comics labels, which are targeted at women.
Christopher Johnson
When you have no arms and legs.
Nolan Campbell
She's a kinky one.
Jackson Parker
No because I am looking for them myself. I only managed to save one page that was posted ages ago.
She's clearly going to stick to the MUH JUSTICE sister if she lives. Sasae will probably dick every prominent female who survives though, assuming the Queen doesn't pull some shit.
I'm glad the sister managed to not be a fucking useless retard for once in her life even if she lost the fight. She was getting on my nerves a lot. Still is but there's hope.
Jaxson Butler
That's arousing.
Gavin Jones
What happens after they got raped by the demons? Do they get to come back home scott free?
Easton Young
Because the Japanese are actually REALLY fucked in the head because of WW2 and the fallout. What better way to vent about being oppressed by a country's different ideals than oppressing someone with your own 'superior' imperialist ideals onto an inferior species?
Julian Sanders
Tank scans? I haven't found any yet, just compiled magazine scans for the first volume.
Robert Baker
He's trying to keep them out of the darkness he operates him and everyone else is slowly pulling them in, but teaching them cruel reality. That may be the only way the sisters get dicked, honestly.
Hudson Sanders
>Nelson Mandela You would inflict necklacing onto some random fantasy land?
Anthony Cruz
>a bunch of neets is pro slavery That's gonna bite you in the ass one day. Hope you enjoy working hard for 16 hours 6 days a week eating bread and water every day, unless you fuck up or fail to meet your quota. And no more internet for you. Don't want you "people" to communicate with each other if it's not strictly work related.
Elijah Brooks
Well, I'm sure you've drunk hot water before. And do you suffer from cancer? Hmm...
Jayden Davis
It is an interesting bit of worldbuilding. Kinda like how slaves were burried alive in ancient Egypt.
Kayden Clark
bad thread why ain't there a proper thread up ?
Ethan Jones
Runner girl is a shit. A shit!
Nathan Thompson
I dropped this when it became apparent that the bitch slapped the mc >"How dare you attempt to kill the house invader that's literally threatening to kill all the children and cut off your fingers Gratuitous murder porn and moral faggotry do not fucking mix
Luke Walker
>Innfag finally bagged one after months of shilling
Chase Ross
shit attempt at sowing dissent 0/10 lurk 7 years before posting
Ryder Perez
>>Festival to enslave the slave's soul to the master's with the cycle of reincarnation for all eternity so no matter when or how they're born, they'll always be the master's servant.
Why are you fabricating "facts"? It's not even a festival just a dare set to see if treating a slave differently does anything. As you can see nobody else actually does it.
>>Festival to enslave the slave's soul to the master's with the cycle of reincarnation for all eternity so no matter when or how they're born, they'll always be the master's servant. Yep, I can fap to this.
Evan Mitchell
Slaves always gets the shit deal. Norsemen would set them on fire once the master died, Chinese would basically use them as construction material once they were expended, then there's aztecs, rus, romans, indians etc etc. All slavers under different names. I could never imagine myself treating anyone like that, no man, no animal, nothing.
greek slaves were the ones who didn't get fucked that much, laws were in place to safekeep them
Carter Gonzalez
>“No matter how many times this damn world betrays, double-crosses, harms, and persecutes you…” >While under the illumination of the fire, Prince Thales, who went on several adventures with Quick Rope over the course of the few days they had been together, had a rarely seen, complicated expression appear on his face. >Grief, sadness, numbness… and vulnerability damn hard to be thales
Colton White
Who's the best historical person that would need to get isekai'd to have a revolution of the slaves and working class people against the nobles and monarchy?
Adam Long
Laws that protects the property of a senator or such may be, but I bet everyone pretended not to notice the bruises if a slave displeased his master. Greek city states were masters of appearing educated and civilized without actually being it.
Julian Wright
isekai is not greek
Andrew Foster
Any good light novel isekai recommendations that have translations online(at least of 1st volume so I can try the series)?
Here are some that I've liked: Grimgar (LN) Re:Zero (WN) Rising of the Shield Hero (LN)
Why would they? Most isekai have special brandings / collars that prevents them from doing it. And even if they didn't, most isekai protagonists treat them better than most other people.
Hudson Anderson
>not even matching the font try harder
Benjamin Richardson
not isekai anti american
Jackson Hall
Marx but only if he somehow gets a OnC concept power. Otherwise, he'd just try to be a neet again.
Ryan Moore
Yeah, no, a large amount of them are published by labels that target females. Well, there are some under a male-targeted label, but to make this definitive, I guess we'd have to sort out each villainess's publisher.
Ian Green
I don't want to be isekai'd into america and I don't want to spread your aids culture in an isekai setting either.
Nip actually hate that Jared is progressing his relationship. That's why post vol 4 the author tone down the romantic shit and went full comedy. Japan loves it.
Jacob Roberts
what about south america
Carter Fisher
The Isekai genre is founded on wish-fulfillment. Success hinges on authors identifying insecurities and desires, and writing characters that fulfill desires and secure themselves against insecurities, and do so in an exaggerated manner. People want to be strong, right? MC protagonists are not just strong, but overpowered to the point where they are unrivaled in their field and have divine powers. In this case, the desire is power over a woman, and being protected against the instability that comes from loving a real woman - "what if she doesn't love me back? What if she leaves?" etc. Here it's not enough for the MC to have a harem. They have to be his in every sense, including the legal one. But they also have to be his in their hearts and souls forever and ever which is how you get the stuff in the OP.
Slavery is so yesteryear. Necromancy and creating your own skeletal workforce is the future.
Wyatt Stewart
>I could never imagine myself treating anyone like that, no man, no animal, nothing. To me, it's always a wonder how isekai MCs can instantly turn into barbaric murderhobo just because they are tossed into a world filled with one. It's like they have no set of morals to begin with.
>most isekai protagonists treat them better than most other people. Being treated better is not enough to compensate for being robbed of one's freedom.
Sebastian Long
This, this mentality is insane, these orientals (jap and chink both) have no inherent morality.
As long as you put a monster label on it, suddenly its okay to kill another sentient being. As long as you said "slavery is normal in this society, that's just how things are", suddenly they'll go it can't be helped and buy them sex slaves.
The one dude who is doing that is called an evil dictators, by people who has no problem with slavery.
Jack Cruz
John Brown Isekai now Death to all Slave holders Slaves rise up!
Brandon Morgan
Japanese society revolves around worshiping the status quo and glorifying what is possibly the most socially stratified class hierarchy of any first world nation. Any actual instances of slavery in their history are completely censored by media, and even implying its existence would be social suicide. The entire nation is incapable of seeing it as a bad thing, because their entire culture revolves around sacrificing everything to make sure whoever ranks above you on the totem pole is happy at all times.
Ryder Bennett
It's the fat fucks fault, he killed individuality with his philosophy
Zachary Torres
Most isekai also use slavery as a sort of punishment. If you commit a crime worthy of being enslaved for the rest of your life then suck it.
Sebastian Anderson
>isekai manga >MC is a loser, but somehow is already ripped and own six packs even before getting isekai'd and get cheat power
Juan Myers
Most isekai slaves are innocent angels who did nothing wrong in their existence.
>slaves rise up >kill all slavers >starve to death a year later since there is no one who know how to run things
Adrian Perez
Which fat fuck? We are talking about japs here.
Joshua Anderson
Better to live free and die then die on your knees.
Brandon Rodriguez
They would run their new society the only way they know how. In pretty much every instance in history, when a newly freed group of people settle down in a new area, the very first thing they do is find their own group to enslave. Just look at the history of Liberia.
Eli Kelly
Won't it better to turn former slavers into slaves and force them to make stuffs work?
>only have female slaves and are written for guys Are you trying to sneakily ask for yaoi recommendations, user? You'll have to do your own research.
Lincoln Cox
>Isn't that what Shield Hero is about? Nope. Shield Cuck is too much of an asshole to ever thought about free slaves. In fact, nigger is a slaver himself.
Joshua Bell
Confucius
Jackson Morris
>Confucius How much influence he had over japs anyway? And I don't remember he condoned homicide.
How does this continue after academy? It's already shit at this point. Don't tell me she gets kids.
Adam Carter
MT
Adrian Wright
I never thought the day would come where moralfags would infest Yea Forums and seriously try to take a moral high ground.
Joseph Sanders
Kidnappings.
Luis King
I thought she planned to just recover mana then rip those gobs a new one. She said gobs won't kill a female easily and she can tank undead king ulti, should be pretty durable.
Nicholas Wilson
>being anti american
Xavier Martin
moral is the basis of justice.
Justin Cox
Such times we live in, it's actually fitting considering all the SJW bullshit there is out there.
Chase Martin
Fuck you slavery is wrong and any one who agrees with it should drown in shit.
Michael Torres
Do you eat meat? Then you're already treating living beings horribly, by proxy.
Adam Myers
>die twice Is this some zen shit where first death is death of ego or something?
Maybe if you're a third worlder, slav or burger. But in the civilized world there's animal welfare laws. >also equating specially bred livestock with sentinent humans I'll stop eating meat the moment a cow tells me to.
Have you not noticed all the SJWs and similar slime infesting the net? It's all privileged idiots with too much free time and no enemy to fight in real life so they go and rally behind the first cause they see purely so they can achieve some sort of fulfillment in their otherwise boring and drab lives.
Josiah Torres
>no slaves ever possessed experience or skill Just because you're useless doesn't mean everyone is.
Nathaniel Anderson
I'm laughing have you ever eaten meat from oldass cow that died on her own? It's fucking nasty. Not to mention not economically viable to let cattle live that long. >third worlder, slav or burger. Burgers are like top world meat consumers per capita. >I'll stop eating meat the moment a cow tells me to. >I could never imagine myself treating anyone like that, no man, no animal, nothing. >no animal You are either false-flagger or a hypocrite because that moralfag said "no animal".
Ayden Hughes
>She said gobs won't kill a female easily That's the point user, gobs would rather gob females than kill them
Christopher Brooks
Wanting to own a cute girl is the dream of every man. Only homosexuals would shit like morals get in their way.
>law of the strong The only law there is. $ is international trade currency because of US stability which is guaranteed by it's ability to fuck up anyone who disagrees.
Asher Reyes
I too enjoy being edgy for the sake of it, really makes me feel like the epic Yea Forumstards of old times, when we commanded respect, when our very legions made the world quake in fear
Jack Sanders
I don't mind. Reading the delusions of entitled moralfags is fun.
Nah, they would probably be for owning boys. Get your facts straight.
Daniel Ortiz
I don't think that word means what you think it does.
Oliver Long
Yeah and she was ripping gob heads off like 30 minuts later. I bet she could take 30 minutes zen nap under rhytmic green pumping before slaughtering them all when here mana recovers.
Zachary Hernandez
What sort of genre do you want? Are you okay with litRPG? Anyway here are some of my favorites.
The Eminence in Shadow The Magic in this Other World is Too Far Behind! (has official TL by jnovel) Death mage Kenja no Deshi sword dad mushoku tensei
Jace King
>we >YPA You need to get back.
Robert Martinez
Anyone like that would leave in search of the better then.
Jace Gomez
>burgers eat a lot of meat >this must magically mean they have animal protection rights Kek. You're a retard trying to start shit by pretending predation isn't natural. You know the difference between wanton cruelty and eating to live? You don't whip the prey until it's exhausted, you simply kill it painlessly o harvest meat.
Christopher Butler
then you become better man for HER, stupid.
is desire for self-improvement really that weird?
Thomas Roberts
Oh boy, Anglos have arrived in numbers. Abandon thread. It can only crash now.
they did that back in the day they would bury the slaves with their master so they can serve the master in the afterlife
Cameron Cruz
But they don't know how to manage things on a larger scale. See South Africa?
Jayden Rogers
Anti American scum.
Kevin Clark
Nah, she wanted the gobbo dick
Grayson Parker
>this must magically mean they have animal protection rights Where did I ever implied that retard? I meant completely opposite. >You know the difference between wanton cruelty and eating to live? Come back when all world meat farming is humane freerange one instead of horrible torture monstrosities that meat factories are, they cannot even be called farms anymore.
Henry Bennett
Judging by how you spend your time on Yea Forums the only girl who would care for your self improvement are tumblr whales.
Dylan Murphy
>is desire for self-improvement really that weird? >for a cunt Yes, there's everything wrong with this.
Hudson Diaz
only chinks would be in favour of slavery for non sexual means you aren't a chink are you user?
Daniel Nelson
Why should I change for anyone? I am a gift to humanity, my intelligence beyond anything normalfags could ever understand. If the simpletons tells me to change, I know for a fact that I am thus already perfect. They should be begging me to bless them with my presence, to partake in my wit, to be swayed by my wisdom, not the other way around.
Andrew Clark
Well who wouldn't if they can take it with impunity? Hell if I had guaranteed way to survive relatively unscathed I'd delve them goblin dens in GS willingly.
>fucking used goods slaves I'm not a cuck so I'll have to agree with the chinks and ancient anglos. Slaves are for labor and the small percentage of virgins are to serve me as maids and cumdumps.
Dominic Mitchell
DELET
Xavier Cook
>I AM THE SLAVE MASTER NOT THE SLAVE Every time, now get to making my lunch and tilting the fields before I beat your ass and give you no food.
Leo Collins
I only eat meat from my own country, and it's one of the most pro animal welfare countries in the world. I don't give a shit what your shithole does, that's your problem and savages like your people can never be taught decency. >where did u implied that Then why say burgers eat the most as a response to the claim that most burger states don't give a fuck about animal welfare?
Kevin Powell
>used goods Wtf user in most isekai they have certificate of virginity from seller.
No proofs=not an argument. Post proof of citizenship.
Brandon Bell
Haha, her name is just Carol spelled backwards.
Jonathan Sanders
Do non-H manga even get tank scans?
Parker Fisher
>“HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A MAN SCORNED, MY FRIEND! VERILY I SHALL RETURN NEXT YEAR WITH MY ALMIGHTY FORCE AND YOU SHALL ALL TREMBLE BEFORE MY MIGHT!” Aite, chinks.
Jaxon Miller
Are you sure it's not a shop? Those tits look a bit weird to me.
Dylan Powell
You're courting death!
Tyler Perry
I think most european countries abolished slavery before the fucking US was even a thing.
Evan Barnes
You are deluded madman that want to be enslaved or you want slaves.
Those who want slaves never believe that the may also become slaves.
Then don't post arguments you're not ready to back up with proofs. >I'm a girl >I graduated from Harvard therefore I'm right >I have a loli wife therefore I'm right >I make $300k a year therefore I'm right >I live in country with animal welfare laws therefore I'm right
Gavin Carter
If a slaver enslaved slave to another slave, will you kill slave that enslaved?
Jacob Thompson
slaver korobesu
Jonathan Bailey
The rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness are inalienable and universal user. Any society trying to subvert them deserves to be destroyed.
Sebastian Lewis
You've posted none yourself then, yet have the gall to think I owe you more effort than anything you've done yourself?
Eli Perry
>The rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness are inalienable and universal user. >rights *needs FTFY Needs do undeniably and objectively exist in most human beings on the biological level. Rights are fiction.
Christian Jackson
Information on burger meat factories conditions are freely available, unlike your proof of citizenship.
>biting this hard I wonder if anons can really be this retarded.
Evan Gomez
>So is norwegian animal welfare stats Horrible conditions on most US meat factories is a fact. Your Norwegian citizenship is unproven claim. You're filthy meat-eater enabling animal torture without those proofs.
Brandon Lopez
where do you read the WN? the translation is only up to chap 6 of the LN I think
What part of rights are fiction you don't understand?
Noah Murphy
I would immediately gain power and find a way to become a futa. Father, brothers will all die accidentally as I rise to be the queen and lead the nation against slaves and welcome the bird beastmen only to enrich the population so we can have wings to fly.
Colton Murphy
ignore him user anyone who advocates for slavery is not worth living and needs to drown in shit immediately
Parker Stewart
Ok. Just for the record, where do you live?
Kevin Phillips
If you had to be a slave for a rich noble girl, which type of girl would you prefer?
The part that something universally exists can't be fiction. Agree. This is my last post.
Samuel Garcia
>SAO doesn't really fit into the vrmmo genre, since the stakes were entirely real Unfortunately, this also means that there are almost no VRMMO stories as almost every VRMMO has some kind of stakes involved.
Samuel Lewis
>If you had to be a slave for a rich noble girl, w
Rights are a myth because you need power to enforce them.
Xavier Hernandez
>universally exists Here. That's the entire point. It exists HERE, it's enforced and guaranteed IN THIS WORLD. Not in another world, since it probably had a different development from ours.
Alexander Morgan
This is your standard isekai haremshit in otome setting though.
Nolan Perez
>protecting fundamental human rights There's nothing fundamental about them and they will have to come out of shitty isekai justicefag potato brains before he can force them on whole world. >advocates for slavery Huh? We're discussing 2D slave cartool girls. Are you lost tumblr?
Even the whorehouse depicts slavery as something accepted in-universe. Checkmate, atheists.
Hunter Long
I wish there were more backwoods redneck Deliverence style elves in fiction
Brandon Lewis
>There's nothing fundamental about them Do sentient beings in isekai deserve to live, be free and happy? If so, those rights are fundamental. Every living being with a free will strives for the better.
Alexander Kelly
>deserve Who's going to be the judge of that? If there's a person making a judgement - it's subjective and therefore does not "fundamentally exist" >Every living being with a free will strives for the better. That's need, not right. I need to fuck yet it's not my right to get it without consent from the other party.
No one deserves shit, everything you have you either clawed your way to or had gifted to you, there is nothing in your life that you actually deserved.
Leo Adams
>there is nothing in your life that you actually deserved I beg to differ, there's at least one universal right that is so far guaranteed to anyone through the sole virtue of being born.
>Who's going to be the judge of that? No need for a judge. They want them and there is no reason they shouldn't have them since those rights don't violate other people's rights, unlike in your case where you want to do something that may cause a negative effect on another person.
Julian Bailey
Nah, life is not something anyone can deserve, most living creatures die like 5 minutes after being born and humans aren't special snowflakes that are exempt from that.
Benjamin Wilson
>187136715 >They want them and there is no reason they shouldn't have them You stop trying - I stop biting.
No, you need a judge to function as a objective authority and enforcer of people's rights otherwise those rights are basically nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
I want to eat and don't want to work. What now? Who's going to feed me? Suddenly my need can only be satisfied if I work because nobody wants to feed me for free. My needs go against my wants, I feel violated user, it should be my right.
Yes, rights are something that needs to be enforced and thus they aren't fundamental.
Lucas Miller
>this shit again Morals and ethics do not a have an objective stance if it is not the bible. Anyone can implement their morals as just if they win e.g. I make eating 2 year olds legal and everyone over 20 must give me one organ or die.
Lucas Watson
I was actually finishing for femdom recommendations. Why is the first think you think of BL?
Brody Mitchell
>I want to eat and don't want to work. >What now? Who's going to feed me? Feed yourself
Chase Gray
But I don't want to. What worth is that bullshit >right to live has if it comes with load of conditions?
Gabriel Taylor
Even desire to live is not fundamental in all living things, the funny thing is that most living things tend to have will to live.
As if bible is an authority in any way, go circumcision yourself fag.
James Cruz
Does BL isekai even exist?
Angel Turner
I don't really like the execution of the premise in this one. The gender roles aren't reversed or anything the girls are just bitches and the guys put up with it.
Nolan Price
I feel like the west does Isekai better than Japan because they aren't constantly jacking off Dragon Quest.
John Kelly
Like 40% of the stuff on NU is BL shit, so yeah, I bet there's some in that cesspool.
Owen Myers
Enslaving a human who was created in the image of god is blasphemous, it is equivalent to enslaving god such a sin is unforgivable.
Jaxson Nelson
Gender role reversal was never part of the setting so dunno why you expected that.
>Morals as we know it is from the bible, This. And as a creation of god, we have to duty to spread his morals wherever we are.
Jace Carter
>Any society trying to subvert them deserves to be destroyed The very thought of doing it is exactly the reason for constant war across the planet. Harming national sovereignity will only led to disaster.
you have the right to live but no one has the duty to help you with that
Isaiah Rogers
You're not supposed to think about your actual mom you fucking retard
Brayden Cooper
>you have useless rights that can be violated anytime >and a longass list of chores to go with them that are guaranteed if you want to live Wow, so fundamental
I'm actually more angry at invincible or immortal Isekai protagonists who are moral fags like you. If i had the powers i would instantly go full Hentai mode and get myself a horde of slave girls to fuck all day and hang out with the demon lord on the weekends.
>white knot festival So, slaves are dicked by dalmatian dogs?
Jonathan Morris
>we have absolute degenerates like you Thank God for them. Bless you user. Personally I would run a charity in slums where I heal, wash and feed poor shotas and females of passable age. I don't have to tell you what the pay would be right?
>what moralfags present as fundamental right is actually a paid service I understand.
Jace Ward
I'd create a youth spell potion to keep a harem of lolicon wives.
Evan Collins
>White Knot festival SUBTLETY? WHAT'S THAT?
Logan Howard
that's right. "fundamental rights" is a load of bullshit and moralfags are retarded
Kayden Barnes
They are lolis, you are lolicon. >Harem of loli wives.
Hunter Jackson
Imagine being so chinese you don't believe in morals.
William Sanchez
>that's right faggot, nothing is free. no duties, no rights Same goes to slaves I guess? They want to be free - have to buy that freedom back. It is impossible due to magic some reason? Well that's too bad.
Lucas King
I want a manga about an ancient French church isekai'ed into the new world.
Who cares about degeneracy if you're a god like creature, have you never misbehaved in a videogame and fucked shit up just for fun? If you can shape the world with a snap of your fingers then there are no consequences for anything, including for degeneracy.
Interesting. If i ever get isekai'd i'll summon you guys so we can share ideas so it never gets boring.
the thing about slavery is people think of it as property when it should be viewed as a service, meaning the work value provided should increasingly count until eventually they could buy their freedom >impossible due to magic some reason even without that it's decided by the government. if it doesn't break any laws it's not a crime. it would make you an asshole but not a criminal
Henry Miller
I'd much rather forcefully feminize a bunch lolicons and turn them into my submissive buttboy slaves
> eventually they could buy their freedom The irony is that the trade requires consent from both parties.
Wyatt Morris
>Dwango has been under performing in the merger that they've had with Kadokawa (Kadokawa Dwango) which has affected NicoNico profits and their mobage and projects that Kadokawa has invested into them not reaching desirable sales >26% less profit as a whole but on the Dwango side due to those and an impairment liability >Dwango will be absorbed by the original Kadokawa and become branches of the Kadokawa >major shakeup as most of the Dwango's CEOs and board members have retired or been let go which includes Mr. Kurita who retired from his position (the one who ranted about KanColle having SOUL and Azure Lane not having it) as the director of Kadokawa Dwango >this gives Kadokawa influence over Dwango's operations while remaining its own company >Kemono Friends expectations are low as seen in the 10K benchmark for the s3 game which means they have moved on and no longer expect and rely on those sales >still dominates the light novel market and will be investing heavily into foreign streaming with the success of shield hero >reports of other studios with debts in the millions of dollars lessens the competition for Kadokawa's series to succeed
>I'm all for the MC getting slaves if he needs some OP, you're a liar. You are just trying to set up sophistry words in the standard cut-paste denial later on when people corner you with your faulty logic.
>This shit is beyond criminal. This seems to be more your viewpoint. You are coming at LN and free thinking people with your censorship approach like an SJW. There are prominent SJW that have been interviewed on TV news stating those that constituional rights do not apply to those who disagree with their SJW viewpoints on slavery, racism, discrimination, and compensation by the government to those people.
Now that type of shit thinking should be criminal.
that's actually possible depending on the circumstances, like if the enslavement came because of debt or willingly in exchange of food and shelter
Jordan Brooks
Slavery was invented in Africa. And the africans kept mass slavery going until 2012 or so. Hundreds of african kept slaves were released (upon arrest or combat) or killed by their african owners. There were still many slaves unaccounted for though.
>Imagine being so chinese you don't believe in morals. The Chinese cultural history was not based upon good vs evil religion like in the west. It was based upon who had the power to impose their will. So of course, the good morals and evil morals viewpoints will fall short in the evaluation of chinese culture. It's more the culture of doing whatever can be done until someone or the risks of triggering some law stops them. The risks or penalties are greatly reduced with bribes to officials in their culture.
Matthew Wilson
>Eating Isekai gets a manga adaption >Left is Manga/Right is WN Which one Yea Forums?