Why do mangas die once they get licensed?

Only shitty literal who manga die if they get licensed and they have no scans, as they should. You really expect anyone to pay money for some mediocre garbage?

How much of the stuff that danke rips goes there? I don't have an account so if I need something I generelly search the archives. Am I missing out a lot?

Because TL groups go MUH MORALE and muh DMCA and fucking drop it. Then the official TL company takes its fucking sweet time and while they're working out all the fucking legal details and logistics, the material in question is forgotten to oblivion so no one fucking cares any more. With the era of simulpub things got a little better and more legal, though.

>I don't even know what you are talking about. The lack of scans of localized manga?
No, I just buy them, usually digitally, because I'm not poor. But usually discussion drops off like a rock and it's hard to share or promote it to people once they learn they need to pay money for it

this reminds me of how Tejina-Sempai just flat out vanished into thin air once it got licensed. I mean, holy shit, Candy But With Magic really pulled a successful magic trick there. Isn't it sad, Senpai?

They don't? Every most popular manga in the West is licensed.

Buyfags waste money on shitty toys that you just hang around in the room like a manchild

It gives an excuse for lazy TLs to just drop it, and no one will buy it because the vast majority of them is niche manga they bought the rights for pennies

Once manga has it's own crunchyroll sameday type service scanlation will die and then you'll be stuck with licensed garbage.
I blame you, you shit eaters that started dling horriblesubs long before fansubbing died.

>series gets licensed
>scanlator drops it
>first official volume doesn't even come out for another year
Also Viz is garbage. There are other companies but Viz is still the biggest one and at times they seem stuck in the mid 90s mindset of fucking with their releases as much as possible.

Jesus Christ you're retarded.

>Once manga has it's own crunchyroll sameday type service scanlation will die and then you'll be stuck with licensed garbage.
They do have that, it's called Crunchyroll [among other services]. It doesn't make a difference because there are way too many manga out there for anyone to license them all, unlike anime where almost everything gets licensed now.

Okay well if you're Naruto or SnK or some massive popular shit of course people are still going to follow it after it gets licensed, or for that matter groups are still going to scan it regardless because they want to be on the trend. But moderately popular manga with just enough visibility to get licensed drop off the face of the planet. And I swear almost all the discussion forums, even "external" ones like Yea Forums and leddit that don't host the manga directly are dedicated to the super trendy stuff or unlicensed stuff.

That's how anime started too.

> But moderately popular manga with just enough visibility to get licensed drop off the face of the planet. And I swear almost all the discussion forums, even "external" ones like Yea Forums and leddit that don't host the manga directly are dedicated to the super trendy stuff or unlicensed stuff.
Have you taken a minute to think why that happens?

Because not every series gets ripped imediately and there is shitload of retards that can't find for example danke releases.

Simulpubs aren't better, either. There's a lot to say about translation, typesetting and image quality, these issues dwarf near the godawful readers they use. Even the most trashy, ad revenue-focused ripper manga websites have better readers than them.

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What do you think about mangaplus?

Like I said, there are way too many manga out there for anyone to license them all. It's not going to happen.

>Have you taken a minute to think why that happens?
Because weebs are poorfags?

No you absolute fucking retard, the scanlations will stop when an official translation shows up because they don't want to get sued, if you're lucky the official translations will come out quickly and if not it will take months for a volume to come out and years before the translations catch up to the source material.
Given the fact that not everyone knows Japanese discussion will die out because there is no new material to talk about, it has jack-shit to do with money. But if you want to make yourself feel better for "supporting" the industry go jack off somewhere else.

Honestly almost all manga readers are shit period. Even dex's reader is shit and the all pages doesn't work most of the time, it ends up being slower than loading page by page because it won't load all at once. Meanwhile some shit stain site like park run by literal SEAMonkeys works flawlessly

>t. angry poorfag

My desire to not support the industry outweighs my curiosity for the manga.

Jokes on you fuckface, you can still pirate and download official translations.

>look upon me and witness the depths of my poverty, and marvel!

Seems to me that the manga that get licensed are either the ultra-popular ones (that I assume you're not talking about here) or series that aren't popular enough that they'll keep getting scanlated after a license is announced but are popular enough for the publisher to make money on. That's not exactly a great starting point.

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You have no idea how fucking huge manga scene is. there are thousands, thousands and thousands on-going manga.

>Once manga has it's own crunchyroll sameday type service scanlation will die and then you'll be stuck with licensed garbage.
Comics in general aren't a popular enough medium for this to work.
Crunchryroll's attempt as been half-broken and neglected for years.
The fact that discussion drops off like a rock for licensed titles is proof that there aren't that many manga fans, just people who like to read shit fro free.

blame madokami elitists for locking their site, fag.

mangadex's biggets problem is how many people are using the site and DDoSing, it used to be fine but that was months ago. i am completely spoiled by their bookmark system and reader though, only use one aggregate to look up licensed stuff and as an emergency bookmark backup so i don't get fucked like when i was using kissmanga.

good for mobile, broken for web.

>wow you're poor
>B-BAIT I'M BEING BAITED REEEEEEE

Retard. No amount of rationalizing can get around the fact that the premise of your explanation is that people can't be bothered to actually pay for the content and only want to consume it when it's free

And only a tiny handful of them get scanlated, and then a handful of the popular ones get licensed, and then only a handful of those actually make actual money. The state of the industry, at least in the west, is probably worse than music. For all the shit that people give shounenshit it's the only shit that actually survives

The premise of my explanation was that official translations take ages to come out and by that point the interest that people had on the series will be gone, good job on the bait, mademereply/10

It's Mangadex's fault for wanting to put more than everything in 1 basket, not only English-scanlated manga, but everything. Total centralization. They're too full of themselves.

And there's no problem with that.
It's also like that in Japan. Vast majority of manga are axed shit or unnoticed hidden gems. That's why anime adaptation is even a thing. Publishers want their manga to be on the spotlight. advertizement is a very strong weapon.

You say that like scans for most series keep up with the japanese releases.

Better than official releases, yes.

>mangas

yeah, that and allowing R-18 as well. which is retarded because they refuse to update tags for R-18 stuff, and I go there for manga not porn. if i wanted to look up ero manga / doujinshi thats what sadpanda is for.

Are you actually being serious, most series go multiple months between chapter updates

The number of official releases that get chapter by chapter simulpubs is pretty small. If they're not in that group they get periodic volume releases which is always going to be slower than scanlations that go chapter by chapter. Of course there are manga that have slow scanlations or no scanlations at all but those series generally don't have official releases either.

Viz is doing that for mainstream WSJ shit and most of those still get scanlations.
Most of them early even.

Depends on the series, some scanlations update weekly and some of them don't. I still take months over years of waiting for one volume to come out.

>mainstream
there you go

Bud you don't get it for some series you wait years, most licensed series come out every three months unless they catch up.
The reason you don't get discussion for licensed series is that most poeple don't like comics enough to pay for them.

even something as popular as Grand Blue died soon after license. even with anime adaptation.

Give some examples of some series where you're waiting years between translated chapter releases that also has an official release. Also I'm wary of buying official releases because some companies (notably Viz) are awful in both translation and how their releases are. I would have liked to buy Dorohedoro volumes for instance but the American release doesn't have the textured covers, turns the colored pages black and white, and the translators don't seem to actually read the series so there's tons of translation issues, notably with character genders. And the volumes are still $13.

8 bucks on kindle/amazonbooks and comixology. It's not much, literally 2 fast food lunches or one lunch at a really shitty sit down chain with no appetizers or drinks

>manga in my country: ~$2
>manga in Japan: $5
>manga in burgerland: $15 + shit quality TL and everything else
no thanks...

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What fucking series are you talking about? You can clearly provide some examples since your entire argument is based on the fact that scanlations are just as slow as official translations but faggots just refuse to buy the volumes.
Not only are scanlations faster 90% of the time when compared to official translations, the fact that you sometimes have to wait for months or even years for a new volume to come out, and we're not even taking into account all the localizing that throws people off (with good reason).

Nah because OP point is about discussion of stuff that gets licensed.
Find Viz fine though, only publisher I find has regularly awkward translations is Seven Seas which is annoying because they license great series.

Kyooku Suri is an example in this thread.

I don't buy digital manga. If they actually remove stuff for the official physical release it isn't worth whatever they're charging for it.

Seven Seas also suffers from godawful typesetting quality. Their Harukana and Yuru Camp releases are awful.

>If they actually remove stuff for the official physical release it isn't worth whatever they're charging for it.
Do you know what series your talking about? Haven't come across one that isn't identical.

I used Dorohedoro as an example of this.

>no textured cover
>no color pages
>removed the "what we learned in this chapter" section of each chapter
>can't even get the characters' genders right
>still expect me to pay $13 per volume

Viz also has their stock volume cover layout that they use for a lot of their series regardless of how the original volume cover is. I know they removed the words on Bleach's volume covers for instance.

>spending money on anything

Why are expecting textures on digital ebooks

What part of I don't buy digital manga do you not understand. I'm talking about the physical release.

No voulme your buying in english is identical to the original release. The only example I can think of is LIMIT from vertical years ago.

>five scanlated chapters
>official release comes out
>scanlation stops
Are you actually retarded? Do you even know what we're arguing here?

He's baiting.

Nah I don't get it at all

I just bought the first volume of Witch Hat Atelier the other day and it has a decent size release and color pages. And non-redrawn (just a little translation note) sound effects. I don't know if it's identical to the Japanese release (the size especially) but it doesn't have any obvious things missing.

I'm not surprised.

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why do you want it to get licensed anyway just read it online and then buy the original from jp as collection

Most american releases should be a bit bigger since the follow the standard set by tokyopop years and years ago.

I just think its funny the people come up with all sorts of excuses when the most obvious one is staring them in the face.
Comics (every kind) in english is niche shit the people only read if its free and low effort.

what's danke?

how do i download?

sorry but i can't share these details with non-Yea Forums Gold users

because they
>cheap out on physical releases or fuck them up somehow
>shitty memes, puns, references, etc added in
>shitty res and bad digital readers

It's even worse with VNs. I knew that things were getting bad when TLWiki was shut down.

Pic related was 100% translated when the translator tried to sell out but screwed up somehow, and now no one can release the translation for bullshit legal reasons.

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Thats Sekai Projects main tactics before, hoard multiple licence then don't release them.
Look at Tenshin Ranman sitting for many years.
Right now, it seems that SP lost their licence to their Yuzusoft backlogs.

At least we finally got Sanoba from NN and had a brave soul leak Dracu Riot. No extra editing pass would make the (So far) three year wait worth it.

Theres Daitoshokan being leaked few weeks ago.
If they're gonna let it sit for years, might as well release it. Clover Days' translator is someone who worked on SP before right?

Otoyomegatari also has nice, hardcover releases too but I don't know how that stacks up to the originals. The Nausicaa manga also got a very large release.

On the other end, Immortal Hounds is much, much smaller than usual for a volume release. Though again, that might be in line with the originals. I kind of doubt it, though.

>Though again, that might be in line with the originals. I kind of doubt it, though.
Japanese volumes in general smaller

>TLWiki was shut down.
slowpoke here, what the fuck. Why?

Everyone on the site was getting C&D'd by JAST and/or really salty nips. It's sad as Sumaga for instance is fully translated, but JAST refuses to release it because the game doesn't officially support Windows 10.

Nips usually only sue when they get coerced by greedy localization companies. They have no conception of the world outside of japan, they're like hermits

Because I don't read comics digitally, and don't have the time to learn moonrunes. I'll settle for a so-so translation if it means I get to have the book in my hands.

But you do when they're free

>I don't care if it's shit as long as I can feel it
Good job.

because it splits the fanbase. all of us can't afford every manga constantly. so every one of us has only a handful of different paid manga, but ALL of us can read free manga. everyone having access to a thing allows discussion.

Uhh nope, I don't read scanlations either unless it's some uber obscure shit that's never gonna be translated like some Garo short

Stay mad, digitalfag

>mangas

You are right, I'm angry that I can't flaunt my premium shit in an anime imageboard.

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I can

What this user said: , with the addition that it also breaks double pages, which is fucking terrible.