Why are gender bender isekai so unpopular?

Why are gender bender isekai so unpopular?

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Are they?

It's my favorite. I especially like when she succumbs to the pleasures of her new female body instead of fighting it

Is Wiseman not popular?

the real question should be:
why is gender bender so unpopular?

Because there's not enough of them, which is a shame. Seriously, I would like to see more gender bender isekai. The ones I can think of are Only Sense Online, the summoner VRMMO, and the sleepy vampire one. It sucks that there's not nearly enough of this stuff.

Why wouldn't they be? They only appeal to a specific subset of faggots.

Not unpopular. Underrated. There are actually very few of these that are published with any decent company.

Wiseman?

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self insert for trannies

Tanya? Once more get anime they will be popular.

It's either fetish fuel or irrelevant to the plot.
So if you're not pandering to a certain fetish there really is no point in doing it.

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I'm so glad this one gets LN. Anime is not so far away.

Is this porn?

I self insert into any pretty girl character, gender bender or not. Gender bender obviously makes my pee pee harder though.

No one wants to see an old fart become a cute lil' girl.

It's always badly executed anyway. No consequences to being changed. Even Youjo Senki doesn't really give too much thought to the consequences of being a woman and I consider that to be the only good gender bender isekai (although Tanya is still young and perhaps the troubles of puberty will come at a later stage in the story).
The only truly good gender bender manga I've read is Shishunki bitter change, which dealt with puberty perfectly. Sadly they still manage to fuck up the ending by rushing it.
A perfect gender bender story should show the problems with adjusting to a new body, periods, and the effects of female hormones on the brain (slowly becoming attracted to guys and the conflict that gives). If anyone knows anything like that, please let me know.

>and the effects of female hormones on the brain (slowly becoming attracted to guys and the conflict that gives).
Non sequitur

I'm sure there was a scene where she gets her first period and visits the nurse for medicine

Hormones don't determine sexuality. If you think they do, then explain how gays are full of testosterone yet still chase cocks.

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Faggots are mentally ill so it has nothing to do with hormones.
>He bought the tumblr propaganda

No offense but I can't concentrate long enough to read novels.

Fair enough, I should have said the change in DNA.

Stop eating so much sugar.

The only faggot here appears to be yourself if you truly believe a dose of estrogen would turn you into a cock hungry whore. Have a little more faith on your own sexuality, fag

Yuuri is the only genderbender that did the falling for the cock right, fight me.

Because gender bending is not popular in general.

Gender bender involves transplanting an already developed brain pattern into a new body. All the early developmental factors that influence a persons sexuality and personality wouldn't apply because the brain has already gone though that already.

It's also fucking unadaptable because >muh gangrape and the fact that the MC got pretty much mindbroken from the start makes her no different if she'd a pure fantasy character with a tragic background.

>Ranma
>Your Name
>Tanya

Retard.

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So you want a cute lil girl became an old fart?

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there are tons of them, just ask jahyposter

I agree with you, however an extended period of time in a new body will rewire your brain. Your brain makes new connections all the time throughout your life after all, so once you've spend 10 years in your new body or so, your old life will not influence you as much anymore. I don't want a guy to suddenly like other guys after he changed into a girl, but I think it's plausible if it happens after years of being changed.

picked up

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I can see it going either way, depending on the persons personality. For example, most of the people in this thread would be testing out their new female body with guys within a week. Other people would go the yuri route and never fall for guys. I'll agree with you that some people "hetro" people might over time come around to liking guys when they originally did not, but I can't agree that everyone would.

Why do so few of these novels get turned into mangas? I see titles like "I got turned into a woman and now I work at the whorehouse in another world" but then I remember I have dyslexia and can't read.

The only good one.

Even if it relies a bit too much on "WOW AMAZING PLAYER IN THE GAME IS GOD TIER LEGEND IN THE ISEKAI"

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>is a girl but it has no relevance to the plot whatsoever

why bother?

Because its cute. Yeah it could play more on the genderswap aspect though, I agree.

Cagliostro was a child when he transitioned

To begin with, it'd need to be published as a LN.

Why doesn't the author just draw it instead of writing it, or use the royalty money to pay someone to draw it?

I thought he was an old man first. Where did you get that?

God I wash that were me

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What royalty money?

Same

Why should I look at a man turned into a sexy girl when I can look at a sexy girl?

he was supposed to die of an illness when he was still a child before changing body. Ithink you can watch the Fate episodes on youtube.

for self insert purposes

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I'll have to look, I thought half the point is that he was an old man first.

That's pretty gay

You're supposed to be imagining yourself as the cute girl

>Fate
Good one, m8.

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I think the joke started because at times she speaks like an elderly person, but that was before most of the backstory was written.
Retard.

If anyone else is asking why does gender bender exist

...

You don't even know what series old man Cag is from, do you?

youtube.com/watch?v=3Fqmkh9BGxs
Look, I even spoonfed your retarded ass. Happy now, dumb secondary?

Mira has lots of great art

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>ywn get genderbender'd

hold me bros ;_;

@187084799
Much obliged, faggot.

The wish fulfilment fantasy is too cringe to read and watch. I still read it cause it's my fetish

Is this the one with the raped MC that slowly becomes into the hero's personal wife-onahole?

that would be yuuri

No.

I think it really depends on the age of the person that gets gender bend. The man that Tanya was before was much older, so I imagine that she is unlikely to fall for a guy ever. But for instance, with Shishunki bitter change, it was a 7 year old boy that swapped bodies with a 7 year old girl. From that point on they never change back, so I think for them it made sense that they became "hetro(spiritually gay)".

Don't be a fag, accept your body and make the best out of it. Live your cute loli life through your daughter instead.

but i don't read it for the self insert

nhentai.net/g/223471/

That was good until the hero became a young boy instead of staying an older man, everything went downhill from there.

then again even before reincarnation I don't think tanya would fall for anyone ever

>ywn be a cute daughter.
JUST.

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How could I ever raise a daughter without being insanely jealous of her?

That's just selfish user. Be the dad you'd want to have if you were a daughter and you may find some of the joy you were looking for

It's too late for that. I'm already bitter and twisted just thinking about it.

This one makes me almost feel bad. Have to go through childhood all over again because of a wish, and fate itself prevents you from speaking out or stopping the inevitability of the wish.

Great art though.

Because all of them suck as gender bender series on top of suffering the usual problems isekai series have. Even if one ends up being decent like Youjo Senki, it's usually not because of the gender bender aspect.
I wish someone made a decent series where the gender bender aspect wasn't either fucking irrelevant in the long run or nothing but the MC occasionally "b-but I'm actually a guy" while acting 100% like a girl from the start.

imo Youjo Senki would have been more interesting without the gender bender and isekai subplots. You'd truly be scared of that little girl

YS would have been more interesting with a different character design, like Tanya being cute 90% of the times and being draw hella crazy when the moment required it.

There's a Manwha called Change getting translated again.

I know

>Manwha

But it has good art and the reaction from the main character is pretty funny.

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Don't get too excited.

Why did this one stop getting updated? It was just getting good with the other girls raping her

There's the raw of chapter 16.

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god i wish that was me

>If it's a serialized manga it'll never go far enough
>If it's a hentai manga it'll be too short

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It hurts.

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I don't like how gender bender guys don't going on a ranging lesbian rampage.

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Would you kindly give me the source? The engines aren't showing results.

Same reason cis lesbians don't

Tensei Pandemic, its actually not an isekai, for whatever reason the latest chapter has the main character trapped in a VR.

Its kinda shit of a manga to be honest but its like the only one out there right now. Also wrapping technology in the manga's setting is ABSURD. Characters with fucking DD Cups can hide their gender.

If you have the power to move the personality to a new body, you certainly have the power to change orientation.
It's 'just' a pattern written somewhere in the brain, we just don't know its form or how to change it yet.

If you take a guy and change his personality into a girl, it's not really the same person anymore is it.

this is the ship of Theseus paradox and there's no answer to it, because the concept of identity is only a nebulous heuristic term.
People change constantly, is a version of you from 10 years ago really the same person?

It's inherently sexual. Imagine Isekai where you get a big dick upon transferring. Maybe you like it, sure, but would you buy that shit off the street? Would little kids be interested in it?

I mean from the whole perspective of gender bender manga, if you change everything about the character so he's 100% female what is the appeal? The whole point of gender bender is guys being embarrassed about being female and enjoying sex with men despite hating penises

>adjusting to a new body, periods, and the effects of female hormones on the brain (slowly becoming attracted to guys and the conflict that gives)
Not isekai but if I remember correctly all of that got covered in that Mai Blazblue manga.

On the topic in general - the isekai element hardly matters in most cases anyway. It's rarely relevant in the end and limited to mentions about "returning" or otaku references because it's almost always an otaku who gets transported to another world. If you are going to include genderbender you can just make it regular fantasy. The only series I can think of this moment where isekai had any meaning was Log Horizon. It shows tons of different perspectives to the new situation: some people treat it like a game, some enjoy the new situation or even benefit from being transported, some don't mind staying there, some completely lose their minds trying to go back (creepy Odyssey Knights). You even have examples of genderbend and some players adjusting to new bodies over time. The community also starts implementing their culture in the new world, leaving a mark on their new reality. All of that makes it much harder to spin the story in a way that would render the isekai element irrelevant to the point where you could remove it and explain the origins of main character/cast differently.

I'm probably just sick of the trope, like most other people. It just feels so lazy.

Would that be gradual or instantaneous? If it's the latter, then it might as well not be a genderbender at all.

being female is different than just orientation.
There are people that are turned out by the Eiffel tower.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_sexuality
Orientation is just a pattern that activates "it's sexy" mode.
Not even gay dudes fit this, as most likely the development path meant for females was partially activated while they were a fetus, which leads to bigger brain differences:
newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex/
if you could rewrite the attraction part alone you would have a 100% male brain that just feels attracted to males

>It's inherently sexual.
Not necessarely.
>Imagine Isekai where you get a big dick upon transferring
Seems like a fun setup for a comedy/ecchi.

>Isekai

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of course it exists.

Imagine TSF monogatari as an isekai

Because Japanese authors need to self insert as girls

Traps are gay

Thats not a trap.

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>gay

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What does an honest mouth look like exactly?

It's just porn speak, the mouth says no but the eyes say yes, that kinda thing.

What do you expect, they're the same beta male mcs who already wouldn't lay a finger on their harem.

Maybe more authors should try female to male isekai.

Disgusting

I'd only be interested in that if she still looked feminine despite the pee pee

That helps, as well as if she starts to use hers with girls.

>Turning his bro into a girl without consent and fucking him.
With a friend like that who needs enemies.

Years of female pov hentai convinced me they have it better.

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Every GB Yea Forumsnon is taking the forest of dicks route.

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I love when beta MCs end up transformed into sexy girls that would be raped and mindbroken if not for the sake of the gb joke. I.e: Riko.

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I wish there was porn of Riko becoming the principal's cocksleeve.

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is this native isekai gender bender?

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>native isekai
Does not exist. For GB I cannot comment.

>gender bender
It actually isn't.

novelupdates.com/series/the-villains-need-to-save-the-world/

the thing is based off the swampman thought experiment, but a man's memories in a girl's body

The best gender benders are always the ones where the MC gives in to the cute.

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Fantasy.

What's this from?

"Onii-chan is done for" Is the name.

GB MCs being sodomized by cuteness is the best trope.

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Yuri gender benders are weak sauce
The best ones are where the MC takes the dick

It's not his fault, he probably thought a big tittied gf would just poof into existence instead of mindraping his friend

I dunno, i wouldnt mind living my childhood again.

>not both

Because only trannies would buy it.

...

"Top 10 Anime Betrayals"
e-hentai.org/g/1216249/3cbcc91ae6/

for me to self-insert duh.

Not enough omorashi scenes.

Are they? I like gender benders and I like isekai but I think that might be a stretch.

i wish youjo senki started to get a romance focus later on. I'm sure it would make it immensely popular (i mean if watamote can shift its focus 100 chapters in, why not )

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>can't take advantage of adult knowledge
>can't become rich off bitcoins and weed stocks
wow what's the fucking point, that's not what i want from my age regression wish fulfillment

exhentai.org/g/1157254/f7a4f84c4b/
I like that the taller Chad becomes tiny and the beta's girl. Too bad it's not H.

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genderbender can be as straight or gay as you want depending on your headcanon

case in point, cheeky angel
irrc, I don't think it was explicitly stated that the feMC was never a boy and the demon just altered her (and her best friend's) memories which would naturally be more easier than altering the perception of the rest of the world. It can be straight in the sense that they were always girls anyways, or as gay as you want if she was literally a boy that was magically turned into a boy (but even then, still biologically female because magic)

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The World of Moral Reversal.

I wish that were me

Imagine GATE but genderbent.

minotaur.club/

>native isekai
Nice meme

>Albert Ke no Reijou wa Botsuraku wo go Shomou desu
>expecting it to be rather lame after part1
>becomes the misadventures of addie and mary instead
my only regret is the drills
what the fuck man

so is genderbender iseka just as bad as normal isekai but with a fetishistic twist added for the occasional comedy relief scenes

Sadly yes.

and that's a good thing

So I was wondering if anyone's done something there the whole world itself is some kind of dungeon?
There's a couple where all of society is apparently built around getting drops from dungeons, but what about the dungeon being the world itself?

Are you actually dissing the drills? You're a faggot son? Even gay girls are all about the drills.

user, I'm afraid to inform you, but she got rid of her drills after part 1. That's what that user is referring to.

nani!?

We need more cute dragon waifu isekai

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Seriously.

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RUINED
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Because they're the best.

For it to even start making sense, it would have to be a sort of all planets (or galaxies) are like that, which in turn would still be a dungeon novel, but with dungeons being worlds.

mangadex.org/title/19728/ore-ga-yuri
Kinda what you want but the MC is forced into it.

Legit one of the stories I will never finish writing.
>World's center is a giant core
>Shards are broken off and dragged to upper crust of the world over time and seed world with life
>humans, elves, etc are all originally dungeon spawn
>Still leave behind a small crystal when they die like all dungeon mobs and their life force is returned to the world core to be recycled.

Well, in a story I've started on, the MC spawned as a monster within a labyrinth. He has some intuitive knowledge about the labyrinth (it gave birth to him, some knowledge about the surrounding caverns) but figures he can probably leave after some time.
However, I'm thinking it would make for an interesting society if the entire world itself was the labyrinth, meaning human civilizations are forced to exist as city-states within dungeon caverns with the resources they need, and exploring out into the labyrinth requires guides who memorize various paths. Would probably even spawn religions based around the labyrinth being the womb of all life, or something, and some ancient legends about the "outside"

The actual nature of the labyrinth itself is up in the air. Possibly some giant magic core that gained a primitive awareness and consumed the planet's core, or something.

need manga not ln

I wish i was forced to do stuff like that too

>reincarnated as a Succubus
>gets a cheat that prevents him from having to blow and fuck men
What's the point?

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C-cute!

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>He doesn't know about the prenatal hormone hypothesis.

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Where is it from?

tensei kenja something, it's pretty shit

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unlucky

>reading books for him
>still gets all the knowledge
why is this not a thing

I heard there's progress in neural interface IRL, maybe we'll live to see media upload directly into the brain.

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>Hormones don't determine sexuality
I mean, there's some studies that suggest hormones certainly have an effect, or at least the hormones you're exposed to before birth.
It's probably some epigenetic "thing", and the likely theory is that having too many straight males competing for the limited females is detrimental, so nature makes a few of them fags to assist in taking care of young instead. You could say fags are a "correction" for when there are too many males that make it to adulthood.
Though, this theory doesn't really explain lesbians.

>No more chapterposting
Is this how the legend dies? Anyway, 289 is up.

>miffed by the protagonist's ruthlessness, even though I suppose it makes sense considering his goals.

Yeah that really bothered me a lot in the beginning, how chink-like he was. I mean, wanting to be isekai Napoleon or Nobunaga is a much more interesting goal than the slow life most protags want but it was disturbing to see some kid go Game of Thrones in a comfy otome world. He grows up a little under the influence of his grandfather and others and learns to keep his viciousness in check and generally just chill a little. You don't really see much of his dark side until the most recent chapters. Some readers speculate that Isaac is influenced by his game charcter setting, since the original was a ruthless clown that always plotted to take power but never had any.

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And so, the clown wants the villainess.

>where are birth rates at

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OH yeah, whjat's the eng title of this one? can't find it on NU with the jap one

It's not translated.

CHING CHONG TO YOU TOO FUCKING TEASE

Why not just isekai girl MCs?

I need more gender bender in my life.

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Even ORV is better than it, and that is homoshit.

You either go otome, go Xena or go whorehouse. It's only one of those three.

>options other than the whorehouse
You're doing GB isekai wrong if you're not swimming in a sea of dicks.

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user requested just girls, not GB.

GB are best isekai girls anyway.

Unsurprisingly, those are far more popular than GB.

What are you reading today, anonymous?
Also, are you listening to anything?

kinda, i've been shilling it for too long honestly, i can't even put my feelings towards the series into words but i don't really feel inspired to make OC for it anymore, just not enough fun things going on in it or much to discuss and theorize about anymore. i hope it reaches the finale soon.

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GB are girls. That used to have a dick.

>material collector isekai + miku ievan polka
It doesn't match but I don't care.

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>30 year old looks like 60

>I used to be a man too but then I caught gb arrow in the knee

>no more tne autism
Sad. Even innfag seems to have given up trying to autistically shill his shit novel. Now he only appears when a chapter is posted, and even then only for two or three posts.

I'd say he's a fellow Russian if I wasn't confident that he's not.

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Someone make a dekinai edit with shota cag.

Wtf i'm 27yo russian and still getting asked for passport when buying alcohol.

beard or gtfo

SLIME'D

Damn, feels bad. I hope enough fun stuff happens to inspire you again. Great job on all these OCs during these months.

>chink novel
>reaching finale soon

>everyone in the town died of exhaustion in a week or so
Did he at least gain experience for that?

>translator copy-pastes nonsense lines from google translate without acknowledging the translation as MTL
Here's the new pet-peeve of mine.

S he gained plenty of experiences.

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She power ups on dying. Except, her other cheat interfered with it, so it only went to her magic without strengthening the body.

yeah, if only her cheat powers didn't fuck up stat distribution

I understand that feeling, about not enough fun things going on. At this point I'm just waiting for Sahyuk's (hopefully) happy/neutral ending.

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ANIME WHEN?

God I fucking hate when they do that.

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Gook and chink are different things, user.

>notes in the fucking text bubble
disgusting

Next Chapter be like
> Come to think of it, looks like this time I save you for real

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>NTR

I want to see more of this, done right it's amazing. Especially in doujin form

This sounds awfully like Magicka.

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Combination/Melded magic is an old concept

Relatable. I get smell panic attacks too.

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No more homoshit than Kim x Kim.

She's the ultimate wizard glass-cannon, the glass part is literal because she has glass bones that shatter from the most minor impact and she can't lift anything heavier than a coffee mug without body enhancement magic.

Did they rape her into a mush then?

ORV, reading the latest updated chapters, then I'm going back to finishing "Reborn as my Love Rival's Wife".
youtube.com/watch?v=Tm2JGgGzik4

Imagine a full run with images consisting of this deadpan look while mc kun gets everything handed to him on a platter while
>wondering if its anything special
>i dont want to stand out
>is it really that hard?
>its a bother

She got raped to death and came back to life every 60 minutes for 6 months. Later on she keeps blowing herself up in magical experiments to the point it became a running gag, hell she died during childbirth.

That's his sex face user.

>every 60 minutes
That's not very often.

That's 24 deaths every day for 6 months, so 4320 deaths total during the whole ordeal if we say that every month has 30 days.

It's not isekai in any sense of the world, and it isn't even VRMMO, but thanks to the user that mentioned The King's Avatar in a previous thread.
youtube.com/watch?v=L_0oSzF7kaM

The King's Avatar has a unrealistic representation of esports girl gamers.

>『”The star-eater who seeks the heavens holds the color-changing bow at the sun, she nocks a lightning and releases it into the empty sky.
>As she shoots the seats of honour one after another, the forgotten heroes at the ends of the sky fall into a dream and removed from cycle of death and rebirth, they doze off in the rain.
>It is a cold and blue illusion remaining in the memory of the sky, one of the dead sleeping in the cage of Akasha in the distant crevice of this world.
>On this day, it falls from the stars and enters the hand that succeeds the history.”』
>【Summoning: Rainbow Spirit Twinkle Pam】
This is a unreasonably chuuni summoning chant for what's basically a loli in fancy clothes.

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This sounds like an appropriate chat for necrontir to summon down K'Tan star gods down to the material world. Not a spell for loli clothes.

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>chat
*chant

what a great strategist
what a masterplan

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>I thought he was a good constellation with lots of playfulness and friendliness…
Dokja, pls, we're talking about Nyarlathotep here, the playfulness I can guarantee but it's not the kind of playfulness you'll like.

>full recon shutdown
>DEPLOY ALL FORCES TIME TO ATTACH

>attach
*attack
OK I need sleep.

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How much does the LN differ from the WN? She never summoned her rainbow spirit in the WN yet.

It worked for the HRE during the 30 year war.

>trust me, it'll all work out
Anyone that tries to sell you shit like that is someone you should avoid if you want to keep your neck because chances are you'll drown with him once their farce goes tits up.

Like half of it is original material if I remember right.

That's typical Alpha behavior, he should have one or two trusted Beta sidekicks who can actually use their brain to solve messes their pack leader makes.

The only thing in their way is a bunch of kids. Of course its seems like a sound plan to him.

They will do fine, there are more retarded countries that still managed to continue existing.

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The story felt dragging a bit again and on top of non-daily releases anymore I don't check but once every few days or if someone posts the link here.

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>famine
>tax rises
>tax evaders run across border
>better waste more food on troop deployment to go over the border and kill them
Sound strategy.

Which fat rump is that?

Its even better
>kill magicans
>nobody can protect your country from curses
>get constant famine

after reading a couple vrmmo series like only sense online, dendrogram, toaru ossan, and others like silver gravekeeper, moonlight sculptor, and kings avatar, I've realized why isekai series are so trash

it's because the abilities are so boring; everything is either a powerful slash or a magical explosion. at least in vrmmo, everyone has unique powers so the battles are interesting, rather than just fighting "demon beasts" or boring shit like that.

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Oh no!

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I would.

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Not so fast.
Secretive Plotter is Yoo Jonghyuk's contractor and he is actually another Kim Dokja.

Help, I'm thinking of making a flat isekai world. Any considerations I should have? Should I read the first volume of OnC?

Nyarlathotep has a billion names and forms, him being another Dokja is par for the course.

make the MC fail when he tries to take advantage of his shallow future-knowledge
Since you're doing a flat isekai world I'm assuming you're already setting him to fail when he assumes the world is spherical without any deep knowledge of how astronomy actually works.

Genjitsushugisha no Oukokukaizouki tier

>have famine
>don't grow food crop
>OH FUG I DIDN'T REALIZE

>have powerful geomancers who can terraform the land
>don't use them to build infrastructure

>have elves that are the protectors of the forest since immemorial times and make one with nature
>they don't know about pruning

>didn't even mention Log Horizon
hey man

think about a way to generate a shitload of water to compensate for all the water that is lost into space

make a reverse world living under the flat world, upside down

>when you spend a fucking volume tricking mary with marriage by writing a contract
>proceed to wife her
Addie is based

>they don't know about pruning
Wasn't that one that they knew but considered it heretic? Or is that from another novel?

I still wanna make the world have a semblance of medieval. How much technology (the original definition, not IT) should the isekai have to make most MC knowledge useless but still having room for self-improvement?
I don't wanna make a super-genius MC, just one with a somewhat slight advantage (but not one that becomes Roland-tier).

log horizon and sword art online didn't feel like vrmmos for some reason, maybe because in those series there's nothing really mysterious about the game; everyone knows all the abilities/classes/quests so there's not much to discover

What is this?

There was never any ambiguity with the ending.
Megumi was always a girl. She used the book and wished to become a boy, but instead of actually getting her wish, her and Miki's memories were altered. When Megumi kissed a boy at the end of the series, she and Miki both passed out for a bit while their memories returned. Those last chapters don't really leave any room for interpretation on that front.

Mantarou and Amahara are doing god's work.

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Maybe this can help or something
youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs

Ether it's no harem or MC is too chicken to do yuri.

depends on how much research you can do. I think it'd be more interesting to do a napoleonic-era setting so your MC can't even attempt to do the gunpowder into musket bullshit. Also a more interesting setting even if only because the medieval fantasy is so overdone (also annoying when anything anachronistic like fucking jeans appear in them)

Because a trope is best written by somebody that actually likes and understands it. As example in OP is a perfect example of, the story itself does not really take advantage of either the isekai or the genderbender aspect. Becoming a Succubus, his boobs becomes ridiculously huge which lessens his appeal. People that are fans of genderbenders don't really overlap with people that are fans of Ultra milk hooters. Instead of it being a story about the MC having to live a life as a girl and a succubus, it introduces an almost omnipotent cow monster that removes the need for the MC to worry about being a succubus... which makes you question why him being a succubus even mattered. Worse, being a succubus does not allow him to mingle with monsters as they treat him like a human, instead he starts living in a shitty down among humans.

But at least we have the genderbender and isekai aspect left right? The part where nobody knows what he really is right?

The answer to that is no.

Apparently people being reborn or summoned into the world seems to almost be an everyday occurrence.

The woman he stays with is a female pervert that has other perverted female friends so it becomes fake yuri garbage.

But it doesn't stop there as the perverted woman easily figures out that he was actually originally a guy... removing one of the main key aspects of genderbenders. You are NOT supposed to have people actually figure out that you are genderbender! That removes a karge part of the charm! Fuck.


So there you have it.

it never actually dawned to me that the anime just never reached that part before it ended.

Do dog girls make the best beastmen slaves? They are loyal, dumb and they enjoy licking their own buttholes.

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There are some yuri genderbender harems, like Alice Tale, Villains Need to Save the World, or Harassing Thief Girl.

Why would they lick their own buttholes? Thats their owner's responsibility.

The lackluster content and pacing of Orden arc is incredibly meta to Hajin's original writing, which brings it into funny territory but not enough to be considered exciting.

Don't they have special bakteria n shit that keeps them from getting sick? Maybe you can lick them afterwards.

>that would be yuuri
Never heard of it. Link?
Stories where girls turn into boys are not the kind of genderbender that people want.

I read the WN raws up to current and two of the sages that have yet to appear in the WN appear in the LN for some reason.

What the fuck. The dragons aren't in the Sono Mono NTR WN?

They are. They play a major role there aswell. He visits the dragon temple like 50 times.

So they just changed the order then? Because in the manga he went there first

I want to eat Roxy's cake.

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time to bring in the co-coauthor

Old hag Roxxy was a mistake!

I still think it was a cop-out that the writer thought up well after the series started. Ultimately it was an ending that left me with a sour feeling about the whole series, much like the ending to Karin (aka Chibi Vampire).

>material collector isekai

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Most people don't actually have gender dissociative disorder, user.

>TIME TO ATTACH

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Dendrogram really reminds me of Needless. The way other characters get tons of detail even if they show up for half a second is pretty refreshing.

this the thread?

broke merc manga finally picked up again. i hope it doesnt get shitcanned, i really need to see all of lapis' smug faces from WN drawn.

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>People that are fans of genderbenders don't really overlap with people that are fans of Ultra milk hooters

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>ultra milk hooters
funny how words can make you remember something you've forgotten for years

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>People that are fans of genderbenders don't really overlap with people that are fans of Ultra milk hooters
Nigga, the amount of mega milk genderbent girls outside of porn is fucking huge.

>MoL delayed again
Fuck.

kek i was just kidding earlier too
I try to forget that MoL doesnt exist so when I remember it exists I'll have 4 chapters to read after half a year

i hope not but theres too much shit clogging up the catalog

Oh fuck me
there's a mino thread here

Yeah, I think in the WN it's chronological, he's first in the forest and then he eventually reaches the dragon instead.

isekai genderbender selfcest

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>2 more days
kill me

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i swear if this is just some one-shot hentai...

>...
begone

>tfw no bunny girl to feed my S-Rank carrot drop with

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FUCK ME

jesus user, don't be such a tryhard with fitting in. I was justified on using that with the context.

Literally dumber than a normal rabbit.

>Mary gott rid of her drill hair

FUCKING DROPPED

I want to protect the loli from this vile creature.

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It was just a translation problem. The raws have been updating as fast as any of the in-house HJ manga do.

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champion niggers are slow as fuck but broke merc did get put on hiatus, whats the raw at ch7 or 8?

I was thinking on picking this one up for a reading, how does their relationship plays out?

>Smug notGuts: Now I can pay off my debt
>Smug Demon Jew: Now how should I jew him into more debt next?

hnng

7 plus an extra chapter. There was a month or two break recently for the first volume release. And all of the HJ manga seem to skip months at other times for whatever reason.

it's really good. relationship is basically debt entrapment but they get along well, in the translated WN loren starts teasing lapis back and she's always blushing. some other user said from reading further ahead into the novel that her parents tell loren only way to pay off his massive debt is to marry lapis. when you finish the manga the WN is being translated almost daily as well and is translated well, no MTL or seanigger shit. few typos here and there but nothing that detracts from story.

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>none of the girls have been forced to mating press yet
This "show me your panties" reward is way too safe to the point of being boring

too bad it has such a juvenile start with the goblin slayer homage/rip-off, both MCs are interesting enough so why ruin it with that

honestly the first arc is the weakest arc out of the story, all the rest are pretty good after that. when i was reading through the WN it took me forever to get through the goblin story, after that i could not stop reading it until i was caught up.

Ohh neato, non MTL translations are a dime a dozen nowadays.

sherlock holmes, eat your heart out

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If I were isekai'd and turned into an alchemy loli I would invent a potion that turns everyone into little girls and dump it into all water sources that people use. I'll create the biggest loli kingdom in the world and then I'm going to get the orc and demon nations to invade the loli kingdom to watch the results.

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I wonder how many cities this hero would burn if he heard that someone coughed.

Wouldn't the orcs and demons turn into lolis as well though?

Only if the idiots drink the local water, but I'm sure they'll be able to knock some of the lolis up before they turn into lolis.

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Do you expect them to bring their own water when invading an entire kingdom? Do you have any idea how much water it'd take for that?
The most important areas to capture when invading another nation is their water sources, since you can both deny water to your foes and secure water for your own army.

I'd expect the lolis to try and protect the borders at least.

Is it healthy not to fap after having a raging boner? I even skimmed through all the sex and I still have boner, but I just want the story.

it is

it's annoying because the set-up of the isekai is actually much more interesting than the over 9000 pseudo-medieval Europe dragon quest isekai set ups

Blue balls will fuck ye up

accurate comment when talking about it, I'd say

If I wrote an isekai, would you read it

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only one way to find out

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in truth I just wanted to get to the inevitable pic related, I was not expecting THAT.

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Now that's quite a plot twist

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Yes, i won't shill it but i'll read it.

precisely why it's annoying, I want an actual story in this world

no

Is Spurdo the MC?

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Fuck, I was wondering why a huge chunk of the last posts literally had nothing to do with Gender Bending.

>owch my hed
>i remember i died, fug! D:
>'whats that over there?'
>see big elf titties
>'put benis in bajina?'
>'yes'

nothing wrong with this being the thread.

Will it include pixies?

i love you guys

Which otome are you reading?

>dies to elven knight captain
>gets isekaid once more

we all gona make it user, soon they will kill assange and they will leak the interdimensional gate to the otome realm

wats dis?

>gets isekaid once more
the hell would a double isekai be like
im curious now

cyberpunk 80s style

death mage has double isekai. life goes from shit to shit.

re reading eliza, fuck asian jew
also what's the mad dog one? i saw some shilling last thread

bakarina
banished villainess
koushaku reijo

novelupdates.com/series/may-i-ask-for-one-final-thing/

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Thank you.

isekaiception

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still waiting for May

>Read Doted Villainess
>NTR bait everywhere
>Now Tiararose lost her memories

>Read Bertia
>Bertia give birth to her son
>5 years later her son wants to fuck his mom

>Read Liz
>Heroine gets parted up with the crazy second princess

Seriously what the fuck?

Dark lands, girl just slashed the bitch's face like she's playing a goddamn souls game dude.

Calmly waiting for the inevitable anime announcement.

How would he even fix the story at this point? The transformed world sucks and readers don't like it. The only way out I see is to significantly reduce the amount of time spent on useless adventures/missions, add proper emotional interaction between characters (I don't even know what to call dialogues we have right now), quickly plow through the final devils arc and deliver the epilogue:

Aileen, Seyeon and other heroes doing their hero business
CT doing CT things
Old generation doing old generation things
Nayun and Jonghak go around the world adventuring
Yeonha rules the new world through politics and shit, misses Hajin
Suho's former guild leader works under Yeonha
Rachel doing her English princess business, misses Hajin
Sahyuk x Suho go back in time to prevent Akatrina destruction
Hajin goes back to his world. With Boss.
Evandel is able to travel between dimensions and characters still stay in touch thanks to her.
The end.

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What's that?

What's in May?

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>Villainess punch the Heroine in the face and sent her flying

That was fucking satisfying

Homebrew.

Yeah I'm really looking forward to more. The translation quality of the guy who picked it up after the teaser doesn't seem any worse so I have high hopes.

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It's gay

this is it chief. i think genderbender is gayer than yaoi or yuri.

it ain't gay, its spiritual gay

years later her son wants to fuck his mom
Can you blame the guy?

>hell she died during childbirth.
She has baby with another male?

Why is it always elves waggling their ears and never beastmen?

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>What's in May?
watching Athy suffer!

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Cause nips want to fuck elves first, beastgirls secnd

With the help of orc semen and magic shenanigans, yes

Its only gay if it's consensual. Just like in real life.

Because beastmen wag their tails.

Because with beastmen they tend to have them replicate animal behaviors with their ears, and animals only rarely waggle their ears. They may however use a beastgirl's tail for that rather than ears.

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wait you guys have been talking about this throughout the thread but no one's dropped a name yet. Is this some western homebrew or is it a nip webnovel

are they tho?

Still waiting for a CN isekai where murderhobo MC isekai's and genderbents into heaven-toppling beauty

Dose she?

rubber nen boss will be final arc

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that time again
strawpoll.me/17818322

Yuuri should well know around here

>not actually FtM

God damn it all to hell.

Fucker's probably a Satan or something

>again

ʰᵉʳᵉ ʷᵉ ᵍᵒ ʰᵘⁿᵗᵉʳᶜʰᵃᵈˢ

Why does Chink Isekai always defying the heavens?

heck I was also confused. I don't remember magnum dong ever being a genderbender in the first place

Chinese people only know about the romance of the three kingdoms and cultivating

Because they want to be above law. They are subhumans.

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Can't defy the politburo,gotta go for the next on the list

>not being THE onee-sama for every little girl in the country and having them line up on your bed every night for your entertainment

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to be fair, if the rest of the country is getting away with cheating then it really isn't fair. That sort of thing is going to result in poorer social outcomes in the region compared to the rest of the country even if the students hypothetically have the same capabilities. It's fucked up either way.
At the same time I doubt it's really doable to revamp their examination system at the same time across the entire country or even province. Only thing i can think of otherwise is if you maybe reserve seats for a quota of students from each region on the country as you're revamping the system region by region slowly, but that's probably going to be full of poltiics and corruption so eh. Fucked up either way.

the CCP has been built on lieing to improve results, its not just one region compared to the other. even if it kills people.

>not being THE horny loli prostitute for every onee-san in the country and served them in bed every night for their entertainment

Is being part of Bakarina's harem the most cursed existence possible

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The story turning to shit after the reverse harem ending is already a curse itself

a story about defying the political order doesn't sounds like a very safe bet

Daily reminder.

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Who wins in the end? And which chapter is that?

The roaming whorehouse

New extra chapter just posted, 17.5

>wanting a yuri route
What the fuck? I want her (him) to get raped and become addicted to cock.

The moving fuckplace

Nobody wins. Bakarina wakes up and the whole thing was a lucid dream after she fell asleep playing the game.

superior ambitions
>What kinship, friendship, love - these are but an ornament in life, how can they compare to a man’s great ambition?
>On Earth, Xiang Yu wanted to cook Liu Bang’s father, and the Han dynasty ancestor Liu Bang even laughed and said, "Go ahead, don’t forget to give me a piece of meat."
>Tang Dynasty Li Shi Ming killing his brothers, Cao Cao’s army having no rations and cooking people to turn them into dried meat as food. Liu Bei borrowing Jing Zhou but never returning.
>The higher-ups praised the values and morals, but those are just tools to maintain their rule.
>If one is restrained by these, how can they achieve anything?
>Those who step into upper society, who does not have bloodstained hands, stepping on corpses along the way? A capitalist’s initial startup fund, the process is always bloody. Any politician’s hands are dirty, and the so-called philanthropists are merely using money to gain recognition in society.
>It is just that the successful are apt in hiding their past acts, and those who believe the stories of the successors are truly fools.
>"These fools are everywhere, restrained by emotions and morals, they deserve to be stupidly manipulated by rules. What’s sadder is that when they see others not being restrained, they would jump out and criticise, trying to impart these morals to the people, not allowing others to have more freedom than them. In this process, they would even enjoy this ridiculous moral superiority and bliss

i wonder where it all went so wrong. Cultural revolution? The opioid wars? Confucianism?

You made me remember the defense of Cao Cao in I'm Really a Superstar.

Always relevant

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She looks like a pleb.

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cultural revolution is what focused on results without thinking of consequence. either of faking the results, or the actual result (hello 4 pest campaign).

>chinese 40k renegade inquisitor
based

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i'm glad it doesnt turn into usagi drop

It should though.

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always get woody alen vibes from that type of shit. i actually like family raising stories. i don't care about loli wives but i dont like family bond being fudged up by NBR, because that means it was never a family to begin with.

You don't have to be mentally ill to have fantasies about being a girl sometimes

Because it's fucking gay

you do actually. that fantasy is the mental illness.

i agree, i assume you are the same user who does not like familia senki

Why? Because of her armor? If anything I love simple looking armor like that, pretty much why I fucking hate BBI armors in Dragons Dogma.

We just don't know, probably will never know, but my vote is for either Sophia or Mary.

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never read it but doesn't seem like something i'd want to read either way.

>In the end, Jiang You sent a smiley face: “It seems like you still don’t understand.”
>“What?” Cold Night was surprised.
>“These chain of events were probably within Ye Xiu’s calculations.” Jiang You said.
Another sasuga MC.

how the fuck does a logical person even consider that before the fact that THERE IS ENOUGH PEOPLE CHEATING FOR SO LONG THAT IT IS NOT ONLY EXPECTED TO BE ALLOWED BUT LIKELY EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER BEEN HIRED FOR ANYTHING IS DANGEROUSLY UNDERQUALIFIED

WELCOME TO THE INDUSTRIAL PLANT MOTHERFUCKER

They are not. The reason for this is that a good genderbender is always beautiful. Ultra honkers are not beautiful.
Yeah. And yet those tits are not even ultra mega-milk tits to begin with.
No, those are not mega-milk, those are just large or really big tits. Largest I have ever seen is Mai Natsume, and her tits are smaller depending on what pixels or panel you look at.

Larger than those tits and they fail to actually attract a genderbender following. Hell even Mai only got saved because the rest of her body actually is beautiful and detracts from her large breasts.

Girls should ALWAYS wear dress armor.

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>have both Mary AND Maria
why is this allowed?

China is a shithole for a reason

James will do anything in his power to take them back!

why do you think there are so many accidents in china? escalators that eat people alive, elevators that free fall to their death, people being left in elevators until the starve to death because nobody could be assed to check if it was occupied, numerous workplace fatalities etc. you have companies hiring people with perfect test results and grades who are some of the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

the mobile sexden

Not just Confucianism, the other 3 ways of thinking are also at fault.
I wonder how the regular chink feels about all of this, to know he and his country is outright despised by the rest of the world, mine is in a similar place but the populace here deludes themselves with a sense of degenerate greatness.

>father smells nice
nigga that's one bright red flag already

For what reason? It's a pain in the ass to take off to rape after they inevitability get defeated by guys

>newfag doesn't want to be a little girl

is that lenneth from VP1?

Kys

the non-stationary orgymansion

I stand by my case, dirty newfag scum.

It's actually from a mobile spin-off, but yes that's her.

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>VP got turned into a mobage
Oh my poor poor lenneth.

New Mad Dog

>still no review that's just variations of the meme

This is a well done manga. Good elements and fair use of them.

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>Valkyrie Anatomy
Tell me more

>new skyclad
>another goddamn new character
to the bin it fukken goes.

I have the feeling you're asking for a lewd reason.

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the un-entrenched copulation camp

NOOOOOOOOOO OFFICERS I'M INNOCENT I'M INNOCENT STOP I'M NOT TRYING TO FUCK ODIN'S DAUGHTERRS

It also doesn't help that Chinese prefer to let people die than taking responsibility when they fucked up.

Yeah but it's not isekai.

You DO NOT lewd VP characters

>how the fuck does a logical person even consider that before the fact that
because you always have to understand what the context is on anything instead of just taking it at face value
It's not best decision to simply just support the invigilators in this case (which understandably would be the first instinct of people in the west), *and* that's precisely what's so fucked up about China.
I'm not trying to be an apologist for cheaters, but just forcefully stopping the cheaters is the worst decision you can make for the city if you're not going to accompany it with some way to address the issue that they should still be compared fairly with the rest of china

At the end of the day, I'm glad I'm not in China . There's a reason why Hong Kong and Taiwan hate being grouped in the same group as mainland China. Meanwhile, Macau doesn't give a shit because they make too much money to care about political freedom.

the good samaritans tthere tend to get sued outta their souls so yeah.

I think I said it in another thread, but it's impossible to do that. Even innfag couldn't do it because it's just SoL taken to the extreme, like Slave Harem in a sense. Reminds me of Umberto Eco's "How to recognize a porn movie". It's practically that. So I think the meme is quite fitting.

>has big anime tiddies
instantly bookmarked. nobody say the N word though.

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Fantasy is fine too, like this cute dork.

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The game focuses around the philosophical and daunting question "Can there be Valkyries(male)?"

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because niggas wanna be girls

nigger

Will she ever meet her father again?.

This Prince is setting new lows for dipshit fiancees of a villainess, huh?

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yeah, a common scam is to try and get a good samaritan to help you then sue them.

thats not the n word these threads so thats fine

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To be fair, the desire of wanting to be a cute girl is native to the human condition, even older women want to go back and be little girls again.

Would you lend him your energy?

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what the fuck is the assimilation thing that keeps going down

>suddenly hearing megaman
>think of megaman isekai
How would it be?

Because it either ends in /y/ shit or /u/ shit, regardless if it's mtf or ftm

some user had an idea about all his reincarnation lives being training, and when he strays too far from the course he gets wiped and reset somewhere else in time.

>I died while playing Megaman for 96 hours straight, and reincarnated as Gutsman's ass?!

Now that I think about it, this is a similar mechanic to Re:Zero, isn't it?

Native benis.

thats an interesting idea
i always just assumed it was his remaining reincarnations and if he runs out thats it

STOP

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>tfw no defrosted ice queen wife

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Maybe.

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nogger sama!

tfw no Pram wife

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if that actually ends up being the case yeah. except the big difference is skellybro is a likeable dude.

>tfw Devil Trigger comes up while writing your otome and suddenly there's a fighting scene where the MC and the heroine are trying to out style one another.

With every new isekai I start I can actually feel myself getting closer to dying.

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>Be a 26 years old greasy Neet
>Genderbent self looks like Scathach for some reason

>he said it

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>Devil trigger played while you're fucking you genderbent self and then Dante burst into your room with Cavaliere

The jannyman cometh

I never thought that a doujin could make laugh and cum at the same time.

Being a girl and raping other girls is much better than any other isekai option.

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It's a really good doujin

thats all john k peta writes. less the latter and more former

A wonderful feeling is it not?

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Cute dork fathercon

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how can a pair of dorks be this best boy and best girl?

even the heroine and the capture target are bro as fuck

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Write one.

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I have to replay that game.

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make a otome thread

Who gave you the permission to post my wife, you hobby slut?

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Setting a new standard for asshole.

being a girl and being raped by another girl sounds more fun

>inb4 go back to pol

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Sorry user, I accidentally opened up the SLUTS image folder by mistake.

I read that story aswell.

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I mean first of all yes back to /pol/
But second of all Heavens has shit-all to do with Christian Heaven. The Chinese words used aren't even the same, since Christian Heaven is 'Heavenly Halls' or something to that effect.

I agree with satan

>bump limit so search: isekai
>one for waifu and the other 2 are shit
Make another thread in half an hour.

some retard also used the list for otome but doesnt want LN, when thats a huge chunk of otome.

Why not hijack the rem one? It has already happened.

>not Dante busting in to do a MJ homage

that one will get deleted, its on the shit list for the mods
no fucking hijacking, it siccs the hounds on the thread.

Dumping a recently translated isekai chapter is safest.

most of the recent threads have been otomes without dumping, looks like yanislav took some cheel peelz

What's the demon lords problem?

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Yuri route wins

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