Raildex

Animeonly here. why does she have a hole in her forehead?

For Accel to fuck.

What, you dont?

She’s a semen demon

Male demons have horns to show off their virility. Take a guess why female demons have holes in their head

Who's the worst raildex girl?
Hard mode: You're not allowed to say Mikoto

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Misaka

Janie/Febri

Probably the roach twins

>Hard mode isn't no index

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Denki Kong.

This is the face of someone who knows they've won their man and there's nothing a little clone can do about it.

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The original.

I would say Janie/Febri but that would imply they have a place in the canon to begin with so I'm gonna default for Kongou.

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Othinus
>You're not allowed to say Mikoto
That's easy mode

Depends which eggs accel decides to fertilize.

>tfw demon gf
>tfw no vaginal sex without protection because don't want demon spawn kids
>tfw raw blowies ok
>tfw crazy demon bj slightly painful teeth. crazy tongue.
>tfw demon gf rotating herself in mid air while sucking
>tfw gonna blow
>tfw she suddenly pushes away and then puts dick into head pussy. Now arms locking your hips and legs drop to locking your legs so you can't pull out.
And then demons could also control vectors

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Index has always been by far the worst girl, you retarded faggot.

>Denki Kong
Can we stop with this meme? All it does is promote Misaki's agenda.

>Create a world with no shitty injustices and fill it with children
>80% of the academy's inhabitants are Accelerator's spawn

t.asspained kongfag

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>Ignores gravity and weighs nothing
God imagine the positions you can do with her in mid-air. How the fuck did Accel luck out with this?

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Dude, literally no one likes Index. Her getting cucked was one of the best illustrations.

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>Who's the worst raildex girl?
Index.
Bitch is not worthy of being title character nor the screen time she takes up. Also basically a huge net negative to Touma's life since she's absolutely useless and basically bums off him while assaulting him.

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It was a present from his dad.

You like trash.

>animeonly
Is this RP hour now?

>Dude, literally no one likes Index.
>Nishikiori, Kamachi, Haimura, Miki all like Index

Misaka

Shitdex

I like my imaginary Index who's useful and does relevant and cool things all the time.

I meant here obviously. She's the second most popular character in Japan, who is well known for having shit taste.

>Kamachi likes Index
She's not even his favorite.
>The ones who ruined S3 likes index

Shitsaki

Tvtropes please.

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Yeah I seem to remember Kamachi's reasoning for having Index as a lover and not a wife was quite literally "I feel like I'd get tired of her" or something.

Mikoto literally saved Index 3 sales

Othinus

I bet one or two people like Index. There are Altairfag, Ayufags and other literalwhofags after all.

So what you're telling me is the real reason Railgun S1 did so well is because of Alfar

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But she didnt. None of her appearances bumped sales.

Who the hell is Altair. And no Ayufags dont actually exist. That's just who Misakifags deflect to.

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bait.

Itsuwa*

I like Index...
I thought you guys liked Index too? Why would you come in these threads if not for her, for the rail? I don't even know what the Rail is.

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>It only took 3 volumes for Kamachi to write one of the best Raildex girls into existence

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>187058591
>187058521
>Nishikiori, Kamachi, Haimura, Miki all like Index

Nope. Kamachi likes blonde-lolis.
11's all have a fetish for blondes. That's why there are 99999 Saber clones

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No need to state the obvious user

>no Ayufags dont actually exist
Speak for yourself. Ayu a cute.

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Accelerator

*2 volumes

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Besad and Ayupilled.

>literally blue swirl fleshlight on her face
She's less trash and more semen demon cumdumpster

More people probably bought BDs for VAs rather than just Mikoto. VA Otaku are rabid animals.

Can't wait when she become Index ver 2.0

You say that like it's a bad thing

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Othinus

I'll have to go with Mikoto

Only loli Ayu.

>Holy samefagging
Saten

She's already light years more likeable and has actual character to her.

Who's the best MC between accel, touma, and hamazura?

You mean 3.0. Index has already been replaced

>One of the best
She's in the top 5 easily

why did you get impression that i'm saying it's a bad thing.

Only bad for LO

Won't stop Kamachi throwing her and Accel to the trash pin.

Touma>Accel>Zura.
Obviously.

Touma>Hamazura>>>>Accel

Did you guys know that you’re attracted to Saten?

Touma > Hamazura > Accel.

Cringe

I'm not

I get rakko, kamijou, and kihara. So why is Saten on team sniff again?
Because she sniffs out rumors?

p.s. what team is best team?

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>He's going to push this narrative again

accel > hama > fukouda

Touma > Shiage >= Accel

I was going to disagree but noticed I had a hard time coming up with number 5 even though 1-4 was pretty easy

Accelerator > Touma >>> Hamazura.

Saten has that scene in Railgun where she literally walks on all fours and starts sniffing around for clues. Dilf is best team

I don't really dislike any girl but Misaki is very tacked on right now. Nothing change her touma memory thing. She probably doesn't understand anything going. Her powers aren't of any use now and probably never will be because it's essentially auto win. Mikoto doesn't actually need her to use the AAA, she hasn't even complained of nosebleeds or headaches in a while. She just had that subplot about trying to keep touma from getting himself hurt is fine but I feel like every girl that spends more than one arc with touma has that moment and it always feels more like a touma's thing than theirs.

Deviant is best because my wife Lessar is in it.

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Accel > Touma > OT Hamazura >> NT Hamazura

Fukouda > God luck > Edgy albino

One will protect you, the others will hunt you.
Which do you pic?

>literally lessar 2.0

>I feel like every girl that spends more than one arc with touma has that moment
I don't think Lessar ever really had that moment with Touma. Othinus didn't if you don't count the time she was still suicidal.

Picking any other than Meme team in that situation would be a mistake.

>having a wacky design and being dere is all it takes to impress raildexfags
yikes

Stop samefagging
Touma > Accelerator >= Hamazura

>He speedread through all the actual character building

And that's a good thing.

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You are.

>100% failure on your side
You might think "no, Aleister is objectively strong and competent", but you gotta remember the 100% failure.

How can you tell if someone is a girl?

Hamazura

Railgun SS3

why is she spreading her legs like this?

Mikoto

I'm not. I HATE HER. I FUCKING HATE HER. I HOPE SHE DIES AND GET RAPED COUNTLESS TIME THAT SLUT

Pick Sniff, Touma doesnt let people in front of him die.

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Squid would be a good housewife? A caring mom?
She would raise her squid children with love? Fed them nutritious foods?

DEVIANT or MEME

ABSOLUTELY!

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To show off her thigh gap

I love Index!

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Touma > Alesiter > Kamisato

>Fed them nutritious foods?
for sure with those oversized milkbags of hers

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Considering she's been nothing but loyal and devoted to her master I can't see why not.

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Post loyal Raildex girls! And they have to be actually LOYAL, and I'll know if they aren't!

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Imagine how big the poor girl is going to get when she gets knocked up. Good thing she weighs nothing or else she'd be unable to move.

Fuck off. Trash belongs to the trash.

Accel>Hamazura>Touma

Easy

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Why are you mad?

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This user is correct.

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What if birthday is the science side ace in the hole?

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Thank you. After all, I have good taste

How can we be sure that they can even produce milk if she weighs nothing?

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Laura being the only with a non-altered name in the MEME team is particulary ironic now.

End your miserable existence already.

Will Raigu join Mikoto's harem?

Literally any member of the scavengers.

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I’m not trying to flex on you or anything but I’m personally we here are fans of Saten so that doesn’t really impress us.

what do you hate about this picture user-kun

>but I'm personally we here
Did you have a stroke?

>Loyal
>Post demon trash
Nah

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Not him, but you've been autistically spamming it for months on fucking end.

Canon team diviant is hentai team GROUP

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It just means her upwards thrust is greater than her weight. If you jump on her she probably wont be able to hold you up. In the same vein, it's possible making her produce milk and children will have her flying low and grounded.

If touma touches accel, will the contract break?

Take your medication MP.

Depends where on Accel the contract is located. I doubt it's a mess of wires all around him.

Nothing, not do I have anything against Mikoto. You and Mikotofags though, are ht emost onnoxious thing I have ever encountered. And I have two sisters.

Are you me?

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Take your meds

Now we know why the threads so bad I guess..

>used goods
>loyal

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Since Accel is Gary stu and Hamzura is lucky they need to gtfo from the main characters trio and instead replace them with Aleister and someone important for the plot.

And here we go.

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Well I don't know about you guys but I wanna throw pancakes at 545 and watch her float around and catch them with her mouth like a puppy

Touma. I don't like powerful heroes.

>Posts Fukiyose who takes it from Aogami behind Touma's back
Nah.

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Misaki, like a fucking tragedy.

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IMAGINE sized and very loyal.

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She's a loyal friend.

>has deus ex machina right arm
lmao

No, it's a conceptual contract so Touma has no means to touch it, otherwise his hand would be messing with concepts on the fly. Plus it's probably spiritually situated inside him if anything since he was damaged from the inside from the Magic-boost.

Team Forget, Imouto, and Deviant has the best girls.

Team Deviant, Meme, and Sniff are likable.

Gotta go with team deviant.

>One will protect you
Assuming they are actually protecting me?

Probably gonna have to go with team MEME since they are stacked.

>Touma doesnt let people in front of him die.
Yep he doesn't LET them die. He KILLS them himself as he destroys entire universes.

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>Loyal
>Goes behind his back to specifically do things she knows he doesnt want her to do just because "I want to be mad"

I would say half the time is people falseflagging

>otherwise his hand would be messing with concepts on the fly
How come his right arm is fucking with his luck then?

Lessar was always ready to throw down for Touma even when she was hopelessly outclassed. But also deferred to letting him punch things knowing he'd like that more.

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>magic side thots
>loyal
Their only loyalty is to SCIENCE SIDE CHADs.
Not any one guy.
Knowing the difference could mean waifu or NTR

Until she's cried for touma and offered her entire life to him the standards for loyalty had been raised

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Yeah, no.

you can recognize the falseflaggers because they don't use the "mikocute" filename

Just because someone has shown more loyalty doesn't mean Lessar isn't loyal

>Only loyal to science chads
Qliphah has the 1# science chad so she needs no others.

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...

What game is this?

please elaborate

Loyal to science chad dick sure, but the first one they find. Lessar knew Hamazura was some hot shit but all she did was tease him and try to arrest him.

She would've jumped on anyone's bones if it were to benefit the UK.

>How come his right hand hasn't literally destroyed the concept of distance, fate, probability, and time?
Luck is applied to everyone but it's not a universal constant on everything, just living beings. A conceptual tree that exists outside of the grasp of IB likely can't be touched, let alone a contract that's part of someone's soul.

I like trash demon too, but you have realize that 545 would easily go with Touma, Hamazura, or any other guy if offered the chance. Rank has no value to magic side thots.

Last Period I think.

>has deus ex machina right arm
IB is incomplete due to what beyond the right hand and the other powers are rarely used.

>Loyal to science chad dick sure, but the first one they find. Lessar knew Hamazura was some hot shit but all she did was tease him and try to arrest him.
>lessar wouldn't still go after hama dick if she got touma dick
Hate to break it to you man. Magic side girls will sit on the closest science d available.

See Touma is useful to England and saved her so of course she latches on, but she doesn't wander after that.

Any girl would go to anyone if they saved them before anyone else. With that logic, Othinus could easily go with Hamazura or Accel if offered the chance.

How are you so sure she doesn't just have a ladyboner for Touma?

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Doesnt matters when 2 of the final bosses have gone down thanks to it

Touma didn't do it himself but we know IB can undo a phase. That seem more complicated than grabbing a contract maybe even the tree. Plus the contract seems to be associated with the body and not the soul. Aliester could hijack Mather's contract just from his bones.

I wouldnt call Mikoto and Izzard final bosses.

Feeding last order 2 liters of soda and shaking her gently

>Othinus could easily go with Hamazura or Accel if offered the chance.
Good luck to them facing a hundred billion of phases and ten thousands of death to reach an understanding with her.

>Touma suffers because he can't remember the best girl for him who is willing to confess to him too.
>Misaki suffers because she's got the body now the boy doesn't remember her.
>Misakifags want Misaki to win and be happy, but a large part of her character depth and moe is based on the fact that she's kind yet endure her suffering. Take that out and she'll just be a better version of Lessar.
Sufferings galore.

White or black?

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IB in the hands of a magic god who can use it. That's a bit different from Touma just waving his hand around.

>Fiamma
>Coronzon
Its ok to be retarded user
Everyone knew that Coronzon would get destroyed by his suepr duper special right hand demon, there was pretty much no tension once Touma arrived the scene

Have her end up with Misaka or something if things don't pan out. It's okay,

The stig is the classier design.

Touma doesn't kill people by touching their body and he can't erase personal realities either. The contract is connected to the body/soul, yeah, but He's not gonna erase it just by touching Accel. IB has mechanical limits and the phase is different from a conceptual tree, as even Othinus could turn a phase into a literal weapon. If this was the case Sephirot and Qliphoth would've been non-existent the moment IB entered reality and would've effected it immediately. If he could /somehow/ get his hand on the contract then maybe? But we know for a fact it's an internal thing regardless so just touching him won't do anything.

>With that logic, Othinus could easily go with Hamazura or Accel if offered the chance.
Because she's a magic side thot.

>Good luck to them facing a hundred billion of phases and ten thousands of death to reach an understanding with her.
Accel will just vector reflect until he's broken down and Will helps him out like she did Touma.
Hama will just ass pull because he's Hamazura.

Neither of them were defeated by it. Nice try speedreader.

>2 of the final bosses
Only one, mate.
And Coronzon was still alive since no one can kill her unless you banish her to an abyss.

Yeah, hence my point because that logic is fucking retarded.

>Touma suffers because he can't remember the best girl for him who is willing to confess to him too.
How can he suffer if he doesn't remember any of it?

Fiamma lost LPSAD because IB came back to Touma and got pissed at IT
Coronzon was literally defeated by it, i dont know if we are reading the same series
>defeat=kill
holy autism

Which one is future Touma?

>Accel will just vector reflect
Vector reflect what?
Accel will die from shock when he sees the pitch black world.

What does this accomplish

>Fiamma lost because he lost IB
Which has precisely nothing to do with IT?
>Coronzon was defeated
Not really? She was barely even hurt. The only reason Coronzon was defeated was that Aleister died and bodyjacked her.

>How can he suffer if he doesn't remember any of it?
Because he's stuck dealing with shitty index and tsun biribiri who won't confess.

>defeat being=being hurt
ascended autism

Someone just needs to tell that prideful god that Touma will listen to some other girl's confession if she doesn't do it first and kick her into gear.

What definition do you want to use then user? Go on, invent any definition at all. Are you going to claim that just messing with the plan is defeat?

Fair enough. Yes, IT did defeat her even though IB was sufficient enough to banish her.

>Ignores that Fiammed pissed his pants due to it
>Thinking IB coming back isnt due to whatever is is inside Touma's arm
Ok then, whatever suits your "argument"

Coronzon literally lost concioussness, you literally cant get more defeated than that

>you literally cant get more defeated than that

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Touma>>>>>>>>>>>Accel=Hamazura

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Misaki. I hate sluts who waltz in and steal the other girl's guy because "she could might as well would" kind of slut

>die from shock
He wouldn't

Fiamma getting spooked didn't inflict any actual damage so no shit I'm ignoring it dumbass. IB growing back randomly at times is probably unrelated to IT yes. Yes, Coronzon not dying, not being hurt, and waking up ready and raring to go again if it weren't for Aleister body jacking her isn't what most people would call defeating her.

Read the LN. It's the other girls who are trying to NTR Misaki.

>who is willing to confess to him too.
And this meme came from?

Kakine

Do you also count Accelerator picking up and throwing Pendex at Touma as Accelerator defeating her?

Yes, he would. Accel isn't mentally strong.
I mean he already broke twice in OT15 & OT20.

Can't be NTR if there's no relationship to break up.

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Fiamma getting spooked did affect his control
And if IT hadnt go out of control Touma would just have touched Coronzon and she'd be gone.
It like saying that a boxer didnt lost because he didnt fucking died and that he can still fight

From the LN. The part where she gets wrecked by the fact he can't remember her, kisses him before leaving him, and says they'll have an important talk if he ever regains his memories.

So headcanon then

>Accel isn't mentally strong.
Kamachi literally says the L5s seem quirky and mentally unstable, but it's actually their overly strong mental fortitude/character that let them reach L5. It just seems crazy to those considered "normal". Accel is the #1 of those L5s with the potential to reach L6.

Only canon, animeonly.

>Isn't mentally strong
>Didn't break down after going through 10k kills and continued to try and hold onto the slim chance that they were human
He's pretty mentally strong to even get that far and still hold onto some figment of hope.

Nothing in your quote at all supports you. You're as bad as the Mikotofags listing OT16 as her having fallen in love. Read the actual words on the page, not whatever you want to be there.

Autism.

is this bait?
It's Touma no question. I wish other anime had MCs like Touma. Just put him in any genre and it's instant money

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>You're as bad as the Mikotofags listing OT16 as her having fallen in love
Wait, are we denying that now? The fuck?

>I wish other anime had MCs like Touma.
Don't worry, there's no shortage of generic self-insert MCs with messiah complexes.

Find the quote. Look and weep as you notice that it specifically says nothing about romance.

That was NT13.

Who's the most attractive Index girl?
Hard mode: You're not allowed to say Misaki

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>I wish other anime
>>>/opm2/
Comeback when Index4 airs

You are misunderstanding this. He isn't mentally strong enough to handle the fact that everyone is FUCKING DED. It's normal, he's a human after all.

Easy

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He's pretty resilient but he is certainly not going to last like Touma did. That was just fucking inhuman.

I can't read your mind user, you're going to have to be a little less cryptic.

Reread OT1 and come back.
Canonically speaking Othinus.
Personally, Saiai

Cope.

Canonically speaking it would be Chimera

That's why I said he won't handle staying in that pitch black world. No human can go as further as Touma did.

Shokuhou, Queen of Tokiwadai, Number 5, Mental Out, and strongest mental esper.

Look what happens when you put Touma in Monogatari. You get a based boy Araragi

>He isn't mentally strong enough to handle the fact that everyone is FUCKING DED. It's normal, he's a human after all.
>Touma not human
Try harder

Misaka Mikoto

>Index girl
Misaki isnt an Index girl, she's a Railgun one, Kamachi himself said so

Touma - IB + ubw = Shirou

Is it a requirement for female magic gods to wear sexy revealing outfits?

Imagine the amount of Squidposting we'd get if NT ever caught up.
>inb4 'NT lol'

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>Misaki isnt an Index girl
>>>/NT11/

Not according to Kamachi

Reread the ending of OT1, NT9 and Fate Stay Night then come back.

It's not required, they just like to. And to be fair, if I had the body to pull it off, I'd do the same.

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>Touma
>Normal like any human
No.

NT lmfao

I meant that as in I was agreeing on that part. I think the only other human that could handle the infinite hell would be Aleister, assuming he'd ever let himself be subjected to it. Granted he'd be a lot more fucking livid than Touma afterwards.

>when you need to be at the hospital at 6 and the halloween party at 7

And he said she's an index girl since this arc. Your point speed-user?

who wouldn't

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>When your understander tells you to just walk it off, it's just a broken arm, she's had worse.

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>accel vs othinus
>hamazura vs othinus
Isn't the only reason touma got to the black world is because of IB? It would be literally impossible for either of them to resist Othinus.

Let me help you. In chapter 97.5 of Railgun Saten asks what type of girl her friends crush likes. And in the afterword of NT13 it is noted that she sometimes becomes aware of her romantic feelings. And then there's this. >When words like magician and even Magic God are being used like normal, wouldn’t she feel the fear of possibly being left behind and not being able to walk alongside the person she longs for (and had thought she was courageously seeing on his way)?

The keywords are "longs for", and romantic feelings obviously.

Othinus used "mind breaking the IB user" as an excuse to kind of decide if she wanted to move on or move backwards. Touma was never actually able to resist Othinus. All of NT9 is a mix of Othinus deciding what she wants to do, falling for Touma and trying to get anyone in the world to reach out to her because she's a lonely autist.

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>americain can't into implied meaning
Why am I not surprised.

Dont botehr with Mikotohaters, they obviously speedreader faster than anyone else since they cant acknowledge Mikoto as a main character of Raildex

I agree. Also, Aleister has similar self-control as well.

I’m attracted to Saten

>falling for Touma
And back to the main point:

Magic side thots can't resist their nature to submit to SCIENCE CHADs

Longs for isn't romantic, and Kamachi doesnt say who the romantic feelings are for. I really doubt Kamachi has been specifically avoiding flat out stating it for no reason.

We all are. You’re not special.

>and Kamachi doesnt say who the romantic feelings are for

Please tell me this is bait.

That doesn't mean they'll run after other science cocks once they have one though.

He doesnt. Do you really think it's all just a coincidence that Kamachi has been skirting the issue of flat out confirming she likes him for what, 20 years now? It "just so happpens" that it's never come up?

>No human can go as further as Touma did.
Except Accelerator, Hamazura, or whichever character Kamachi wanted to be MC.

p.s. By character accel can handle it. Hamazura would just luck his way out like Touma did.

Alright. Who is she realizing her feelings for when she's spent an entire volume with Touma? Was it High Priest? Maybe Fiamma?

>Impossible for either of them to resist
Accelerator would resist but the moment he saw the Omega World he'd probably give up and off himself unless Will stopped him. Hamazura might unironically be the only one aside from Touma who'd fight back-- if anything, he'd fight back quicker than Touma did.

Touma is a self insert protagonist. In the end you’ll always win.

>That doesn't mean they'll run after other science cocks once they have one though.
They won't run off, but they'll be easily NTR'D since they can't resist any science dick. Look at lessar for example.

The NT13 afterword isn't solely about NT13 user.
>She’s been with us since the very first volume, a lot of information has been presented along the way, and she has accumulated a number of emotions.

That makes me mad. For once I just want to guy to feel like what it’s like to lose.

>Touma is a self insert protagonist
>you’ll always win
Except those times he jobbed. And the fact that you wouldn't want to self insert into misfortunes man.

Clearly its me

Headcanon is an amazing thing

But we specifically see Lessar showing great control in honeypotting Hamazura but able to instantly go back to business mode since she has a cock to lust over already?

the "mikocute" guy is a falseflagger you do realize

Just gonna give my two cents here. I've seen this argument before in another shipping war. Check the original Japanese. "Longs for" or "yearns for" is a romantic as fuck as it gets in Japanese without directly saying love.

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You have to be either autistic or an speedreader to not think Mikoto is in love with Touma?

Not resisting the mind break user, I mean if Othinus wanted to turn his will/thoughts ect. with phase dickery she could.

>unless Will stopped him
Basically same as Touma.

off-topic
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Kamachi's autism about "some feeling Mikoto did not know the name of", dodging the issue of actually just addressing who it was supposed to be in NT13, and her "muh stage" autism don't really allow me to easily buy that Kamachi has just happened to never actually state Mikoto loves Touma. It's such a basic thing that it really has to be a red herring at this point.

Love is a strong word for 14 year old girls, but yes.

Denial of canon is amazing

This isn't a even a shipping war. I don't want to reply anymore, the amount of reaching is literally mind blowing to me. The afterword specifically talks about the feelings she's accumulated along the way, and then goes on to talk about Touma exclusively. Who else is it talking about? Kuroko? Etazli is a viable guess too.

Can I vote both a) and c)?

Hey, man, I don't want no part of this.

>It's such a basic thing that it really has to be a red herring at this point.
You've been reading too much Uchikoshi

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>He doesn't know how the characters work

Nope, you gotta pick one.

No one can stop that unless you're possibly Aleister, an MG, or beyond Aeon bullshittery.
Basically.

>Accelerator would resist
>until Omega world

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Remember that time when Touma and Index went in space?

Guys, I think I found her. I think I actually managed to find where she li

Hey guys? But what about Kongou though?

They're both true though. Some things, like phone posting or general faggotry in threads go too unnoticed, and some things like loli threads or anything else mods don't like get smacked down too hard.

Do you have anything to explain why I'm wrong or are you shitposting?

Accelerator went genocide mode after he saw last order suffer, if Touma didn't stop him he would've killed as much as he could've, in fact he gave up there. He almost went crazy once Kakine dark mattered clones and Will had to step in. He had(has?)a fragile mind.

Read the series rabid dog. Your boy lost his shit three times.
Yes, you are shitposting.

His fragility ended after WW3 when he built a new pillar. All of OT is him wandering through the world conflicted. Sure, you can argue he'd lose his mind if Othinus did fuckery against him with Last Order, but he'd be smart enough to figure out that this is her pulling the strings and he wouldn't buy into it and would solely have his entire mental fortitude directed towards resisting her. Level 5's have strong fortitude but they only seem unstable because if you make them slip they go ape-shit rather than Touma who'd just beat your lights out for a bit and then come to his senses.

I'd give it two worlds of both being forced to kill the sisters and the sisters all killing and betraying him after a life of forgiveness to mentally break him. It only took Kakine a few minutes to nearly break him.

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He’s really not that powerful in the grand scheme of things. Magic gods would fuck his dick up.

This guy still insists that Accel would handle infinite hells.

That's not what the argument is about.

>His fragility ended after WW3
Accelerator nearly killed himself against Kakine in NT6 dumbass.
>Accelerator wouldn't buy into LO being used against him
You fucking what

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Accel is mentally tough in a lot of aspects but the minute clones are dangled in front of him he falls apart like with kakine. iirc the very first touma was in was one where people he cared about hated him and wanted him dead. accel wouldn't handle that. Even then the Black world of nothing might be too much.

They would indeed make him cum whether he likes it or not

Yeah that was the very first world.

I had to reread because I thought IB kept touma from getting erased along with the universe. However it actually reads like Othinus spared him that time too and could have wiped everything except that which refuses to break down.

Othinus quite explicitly says she plans on breaking him to make him easier to use, and the only reason he survives is because she keeps reviving him, so yeah.

Fair enough. In all honesty, he couldn't even operate as soon as he saw the Black World anyways. But what would Hamazura do?

Based on NT22? Just ask nicely if she could give back the world.

>accel gets sent to the black world
>immediately falls into a blubbering mess because the misaka network doesn't exist

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God damn it, how many people have we lost to this bitch?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>"Welcome, hum-"
>"adsjfdfsklsfelkdflsdf"

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>Kamachi doesn't say who the romantic feelings are for
You can't be serious with this. Please tell me you're not serious. Nobody is this stupid. I refuse to believe this is real.

Fuck off with your e celeb shit.

Reminder that magic gods are the most fucking powerful beings in this universe and your favorite characters are worthless pieces of shit that can only do what they do because the magic gods allow it.

Can't say for certain. I don't feel like he has been mentally tested as much as the other two.

Well? Does he? Does the fact that Kamachi has actually left himself a back door to smugly say "Did I ever say that?" in 10-20 volumes time not set off any doubts in your mind at all?

Simply surpass them then. Yes, even at their peak state.

>controls the metaphysics of the world to punt your Aeon soul out of your body before you can create a phase
Nothin personel Magic Gods

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Nobody is arguing against that though.

Chimera bar none.

But Anna is my favorite character

Mikoto

Hamazura's main trait seems to be not quite understanding the shit he's in. So wandering around a bit lost, and then asking her to just put things back seems like its about the extent of what Hamazura would, or could do. Seeing as he quite literally went along with a plan to end the world on the offhand chance that maybe Coronzon was pulling his leg.

Mi koto.

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You really that Accel can beat a magic god? You’re high.

No offense but a magic god would stomp Accelotator.

A fucking best

Not in pure power but in kit. No one atm can match one at pure power.

Can? Yes. Will? Ehh.

Yes and no.

Magic Gods are kind minus post-NT9 Othinus.
She bloody did go all the way with Touma.

Magic Gods are kind so he has no reason too unless they make Last Order or Qliphah cry. Even then he'd just make them apologize.

You mean pre NT9

I think he is using the AAA logic. an AAA CAN kill even a full power magic god. However that almost certainly happened because the god assumed that it wouldn't hurt them. Look at HP vs everyone or Neph vs Accel pt2. They just fucking let attacks hit them. Although it isnt clear if Accel can kill full power magic gods. Remember kids nerf gods in all their bullshit is the killable version.

>She bloody did go all the way with Touma
And you can bet it was a bloody first time for him too.

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My bad. Yes. Pre-NT9.

AAA can kill a magic god?

>And you can bet it was a bloody first time for him too.
What did you mean by this?

Accelerator can probably gimp Magic Gods in general but he'd have to attack them before they can manipulate a phase or do any of their metaphysics. I doubt they can prevent themselves from regeneration nulling metaphysical attacks but if they get the chance to create a phase he has no means of combating that.
Nerfed Magic Gods he can fight too but without Clonoth I wouldn't consider it an instant win because Magic Recoil would rough him up as he's attempting to gib them.
In the end he has the kit to instant kill them AAA style but whether he can before they can pull their own Metaphysics at full power is debatable, but NErfed magic Gods he can definitely take.
TL;DR: I wouldn't count on him beating a Full Power MG but he still has the kit to hurt them, but he has the better win ratio against a nerfed one due to his current set up.

Touma's anal virginity being forcibly taken by a pissed off maid and a tree.

>AAA can kill a Magic God?
How new?
Accelerator is a walking Aleister-boosted AAA right now more or less.

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That there was lots of biting, hitting and scratching. Just like the vikings liked it.

My mom said that she thinks Mikoto is probably the strongest character in the series and my mom usually knows these kind of things. She’s a girl.

Fairy spell as well can kill them but I genuinely think Magic gods regardlessly can avoid it easily if they want to.

Fair spell nerfs instead of kills. But yes as HP shows, if they don't want to get hit they can avoid it. Othinus literally got hit on purpose so she could go from 50% to 0%

Your mom is a woman and by default her opinion is worth half of that of a man's opinion.

user he had clonoth again Neph user and the wings. The wing are credited the reason he could draw with magic god despite being a magic newbie. Even then Neph wasn't described to be damage so either she blocked or dodged what he did because she couldn't have healed from it.

Men kind of suck at opinions. Thanks for all the war and stuffing in the world though.

Lame. 6yo old level of joke.

>He had clonoth against Neph
No he didn't. He was just converting the network around him into insta-gib magic killing vectors. Clonoth existed when he attacked Coronzon and that was by embedding it into the entire universe.

>joke
It isn't in many parts of the world.

We dont see what happened off screen, the hair might have been the only attack he made.

Not to mention he didn't really want to kill her, just rough her up so she'd apologize to Qliphah. Call it an eye-for-an eye thing.

Was it rape?

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No

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Aisa and Izzard have a great aesthetic when they're together.

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>Not to mention he didn't really want to kill her,
>tore her to shreds before he knew she could survive that

Maybe a little bit.

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Accelerator also ripped off Salome's arm without question, he's a bit impulsive.

Shitdex followed by Shitinus, of course.

The network was always the tree it didn't just start when he embedded it.
>It had been with him from the very beginning.

>It had been invisible, but it had been there supporting the strongest Level 5’s power.

>It branched out into countless individuals, but it could be wielded as a single great whole.

>The invisible third tree.
His entire attack is hitting people with the tree. That's what he did to neph

>Blue haired touma
ruined

What's that from?

SNIFF, IMOUTO, and DEVIANT would be entertaining to watch for an arc.

But it wasn't embedded into the plane of existence. The tree and it's hierarchy wasn't made yet. The seeds were there to make it but it was Accelerator who used his knowledge beyond Aeons to construct it into a cosmic order and implant it.

>SNIFF takes turns passing around Othinus and sniffing her

How popular do you guys think Gunha will be for animeonlies

Beta world

>Why isnt this guy the MC?!?

Othinus is shit though. She should have choked on all that old hanged men semen.

Sucking the hole

Decently. We have about as much info on him ourselves as the animeonlies will after Railgun. Only reaction my anime only sister gave on his description was "he sounds pure", so I assume decent.

I'd rather fertilize the hole.

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It's funny how the three "deranged" level 5s all seem mentally strong but are the most likely to commit suicide out insecurity

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Is gunha a science Saint?

>tfw want to like Othinus but don't like her relationship with Touma and she doesn't interact with anyone else making it hard to like her

Please Kamachi, give her another friend.

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Even with clonoth he still gets magic recoil
>The surface blood flow did not matter.

>He had cast off the pain of this world long ago.

>His red eyes were looking to a deeper place.

Essentially.

>Doesnt like banter and unconditional support
What's not to like

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Kakine wouldn't commit suicide though. Misaka is far more likely to than him. She's literally tried it already.

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He didn't seem that battered when he approached Aleister but maybe he just patched that stuff up already.

Doesn't sound like something the fairy would tolerate when even headpats are something she wants done behind closed doors.

>banter
What banter? Calling him a fool for the 20th time in a single book? Even Index has better banter with Touma when she isn't biting him.

>unconditional support
Literally dozens of other characters provide this.

That's just Aogami with his eyes opened.

Oh my mistake, I thought you actually read the books.

I am honestly expect these comment

please take my wife Mikoto off of team trap thank you.

>Touma sitting around the table in his apartment with Saten and Rakko
>Noukan is making food in his kitchen
>"Dude pass the fairy"

I think it might be lessened for him. it only caused some blood to seep from his head when he first attacked neph. Before any spell no matter how small would kill you if didn't have provisions. Just look at any other time he has had to cast magic.

seething mikotofag

>implying making changes to the cosmic order is hard
Even this jobber did it.

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Misaki a pile of shit

Mental out and then Mina Mathers.

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>give her another friend
I'd rather not have her presence drag down other characters. Just let her remain in her bubble.

I prefer the original honestly. It's a shame to crop out the picture of Touma getting his face pushed into the floor just to change the dice text

OT15 was Suicidal after stabbing Yomikawa. He knew Black Wings were stronger but still decided to draw out Accelerator's murderous intention cause "Our villainy is unbreakable".

Mikoto is different. She wouldn't follow through without hesitation like the others.

Why would anyone like Hothinus? Her motivation is retarded and her powers at one point boiled down to "I win lol". She's not even that attractive among this particular cast.

>Othinus is past the point of struggling and more or less stays limp from excessive sniffing as she's passed around
>Turns out she only agreed to it under the pretense of being washed by Touma later "to get her smell back"

Kakine still intended to fight Accelerator there. He was suicidal in the sense that he was being careless, but his end goal wasn't death.

No. He truly believed that he had the power to snuff out Accelerator for good.

Your mama a pile of shit.

>She's not even that attractive

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>one-eyed freak
>reeks of dead men semen
Yeah, no thanks.

I like this artist a lot.

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Yes, but my post was specifically talking about killing oneself due to insecurity, which dying under the false belief that someone can't be superior to you falls under

None of the the three planned on "suiciding" in a traditional sense if that's what you're disagreeing with

Son of a bitch! I just realized I find Saten Ruiko attractive.

how can normal high school boys be so cute

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Fuck it. We all do. Who even cares anymore.

We all love how much Saten sucks our cocks. Just 10 minutes ago, she rimmed my ass without me even asking! She just got right in there and started licking up all my left over shitflakes with a smile. What a great girl.

>None of them were traditionally suiciding
Accelerator came extremely close user. Mugino basically almost killed herself by ignoring that she knows her power could kill her. Kakine was just a bit delusional. It's a totally different ballgame.

Not me. That’s for sure. Not I.

A normal high school goy you could find anywhere.

Is attracted to Saten

Based

Wow, he is pretty normal after all.

>an AAA CAN kill even a full power magic god.
Never happened.

He probably got rimmed by Saten too

It literally did though

You’d like that.

Like I said, never happened.

We all did

Yeah yeah but did you hear I find Qliphah super sexy and I want to kiss her gently? I bet you didn't!

I like that.

Read the exchange between Aleister and the gods when they show up to AC again. It basically went like;
>We're here because we're nerfed now, let's go get Touma
>Can't let you do that MGs
>You can't stop us lol
>I hijacked your spell
>You can't have done that because you'd have to kill Zombie, who isn't nerfed, to do that
>Oh yeah? What's this then?
>Zombie's body falls to the floor.

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You weren't supposed to post this.

Everyone would get tired of Index. She has no redeeming quality.

Other user means Zombie
Went like this
Aleister : I nerfed you!
MGs : But how?!
A : I hijacked Zombie's spell.
MGs : But you would need to have defeated him!
A : *produces Jesus'd Zombie*

are you retarded?

I'd rather jump on her and bang her until she stops being able to float and ends up wriggling around on the ground

What did MP mean by this?

Important talk =! Confession Misakifag. Touma had an important talk with Index after WW3 too, wasn't a confession.

>who isn't nerfed, to do that
No one said this. Not Kamachi, not HP and not Aleister.

>Him
Zombie is a girl.

I honestly think Index is fine as a character on her own but arguably at her worst whenever she's with Touma

Would embedded clonoth actually make accel himself stronger? Seems like it would just make the tree easier for other people to use instead being network only. Also the exorcism doesn't seem like it was an attack since it didn't harm coronzons body or spirit just separated them. Not even sure that would work on a creature not possessing something. Could he even do it twice since it was act of embedding the tree? he doesn't have a spare cosmic sapling sitting around.

>what is context
Hint : it's not a burger.

Don't be mad that she beat you in the cutest demon contest Coronzon.

Its time to return. Unironically, no fake outs.
NT23 is when it will happen, and beyond that? There will be a spectacle to witness, and Kakine is in the center of it.

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Look up what Astral Projection is user. It's forcing the soul out of the body. That's still effecting the soul even if it's separation. And yes, he could. He's literally connected to the network which is the tree. But he needs Will's permission to Access it, so it's a limited thing that he's not just gonna pull off whenever he wants. He needs to kiss Will's feat first and maybe some oral before she lets him macro-micro with the tree.

Crossing the abyss through Clonoth put Accel on the same tier as characters like Aleister and Coronzon. It's why his wings became similar to Aiwass, he now occupies a similar place in creation.

Not bad, third string.

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>Mad
user, "bang" is a synonym for fuck. I am saying I want to fuck 545's brains out until she's unable to concentrate on flying, and her fat chest squishes underneath our weight on the ground as she twitches from the pleasure. I'm hardly mad.

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I mean Will has never cut off Accel's power before, I doubt she would unless he actually went evil again.

Not as bad as what you're going to be, mongrel.

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Could the 20.000 sisters have completely blown Accelerator the fuck out with the Tree?

>What is context
It's "I made this up and expect you to respect my headcanon as fact"

Well he went beyond even the tree, which is why he could establish a new order as well due to reaching Ein Soph beyond Keter. But yeah you're basically right, he's pretty high up in the hierarchy now more or less with his current state and kit.

>Important talk =! Confession Misakifag. Touma had an important talk with Index after WW3 too, wasn't a confession
Are you pretending to be retarded?
>Touma had an important talk with Index after WW3 too, wasn't a confession
How do you get to that conclusion by using this as a basis? It's so very fucking obvious what Misaki was saying IF Touma ever does remember her.

Well now I'M mad that you'd do that to her when I want too.

They need 545 to do tree shit.

>like Aleister
That failure only crossed the abyss by accident AFTER accel did and it only because of what accel. Plus Aliester confirmed he could win against a nerf'd magic god with the AAAiwass gang.

They need to hurry up with more IF news. I need to hear Umidori's voice.

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No? None of them have bodies to endure such a calculation load nor the brain. That's why they're a network. Even putting it into Mikoto caused massive draw backs. Accelerator is likely the only one that can handle the Clonoth load in general.
But I mean if they hypothetically could then yeah.

True, looking back they dont say she was unerfed, but they do say that he did it when he first confronted them, before Zombie ever cast her spell. So that comes back around anyways.

What would Kakine's tree be? Can Kakine make a tree out of himself?

Which for me is further proof than Aleister's plan is far from being shattered and that he is bamboozling everyone.

>How do you go from one important talk not being a confession to another important talk not necessarily being a confession
By not being a retard. No one says what it is. You have a guess. That's it, a guess.

Accelerator's brain doesn't do any calculations anymore, it's all the Network. It caused problems in Mikoto because Mikoto doesn't have the aptitude to hit Level 6 without dying.

>It's "I made this up and expect you to respect my headcanon as fact"
No, it's "I am going to blatantly deny the obvious writing on the wall because it's not explicitly said even though it's literally shoved into your face at the same time"

Yes. He already has a daughter who can use the macro to do the micro. Its very possible to become a tree.

>literally can't read
Homeschooled retard should be banned from having an opinion on anything.

Your blatantly ignoring context there though.

Hold on, I got another call on line one. Let me put you on hold indefinitely.

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Zombie had to have been nerfed, because if Zombie wasn't nerfed, the world would have been destroyed through her sheer presence, that's the whole point of the spell.

>The writing on the wall
there is no writing. Because as you admit, it's not said. Misaki having something to tell him about can be any a number of things.

>this post

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Accel doesn't do the Clonoth load. He just uses his powers like normal, 545 and WILL do the magic lifting.
>“I will provide you with what you need to know by installing the knowledge of the entire tree of 78 cards. It doesn’t matter if you are aware of it or not, master. Just control the vectors however feels right to you. All of ‘us’ will make sure it all works out!!”
He basically flies blind. The abyss knowledge is subconscious for him.

Yeah that's basically what I meant but I realized I fucked up my articulation after I sent it.

Aleister has flat out admitted his plan is in shambles. He might be able to recover it, but it wasn't on purpose.

The world wasn't destroyed by Othinus' presence, and the fight supposedly happened when Aleister crashed into the fun house anyways.

It was in shambles after Fiamma but was put back on course after Kamisato. He even called the thing with Coronzon a bit of a detour I'm pretty sure. Who knows what the state is now.

And yet here you are.

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Oh wait, yeah you're right. Damn, how did I miss that?

I like this series

>can be any a number of things.
No, really, that's incorrect though, cause even a 10-year-old could tell the meaning behind her words by the fucking context around it. You're blatantly denying that her words imply literally only one thing.

I seem to recall him saying as he was dying, he had a lot of shit left undone, and he also flat out admits he never expected to survive. It wasn't some master keikaku, it was pure luck, good or bad depending on how you look at it. He might make plans again in the future, but that was hardly part of his plan.

>no u
deep

>people worry about can accel can be stopped when he is this strong
>yfw next volume it turns out using magic through the network causes all the clones to get shared magic recoil

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You're giving me this hogwash after I got
>u dum lol

Still the same user. I re-read your twisted sentences and I undersand your problems now.
Let's go with the first user :
>>We're here because we're nerfed now, let's go get Touma
>>Can't let you do that MGs
>>You can't stop us lol
>>I hijacked your spell
>>You can't have done that because you'd have to kill Zombie, who isn't nerfed, to do that
Wrong it's actually :
>HP : If someone wants to kill us, now is the time, because we nerfed ourselves.
>A : Indeed, I'll use this opportunity to kill you. I hijack your spell and changed it in such a way that every single one of you can now experience death. So, on top of being infinitely weaker, you're now mortals.
>HP : Don't be retarded. To that you need to defeat Zombie first. So it's technically an impossible puzzle to solve you fucking retard.
The point of the spell was to make them mortal. And the bullshit part was that Aleister could still kill zombie without the spell. But that could be attributed to the fact that the point of the hijack was to make all of them all mortal in one go and not do it one by one.
Nothing stated that Zombie wasn't nerfed, although the opposite wasn't stated either. But if Zombie went to their world she must have been nerfed.
But if Zombie didn't come out, it would also mean that Noukan can go to their secret phase, which is a massive stretch.
Anyway, my point is that nothing is sure, except one thing : that whatever you think is true is pretty much headcanon until it's confirmed explicitly.

>I nerfed you
No he didn't. Aleister's Hijack didn't make them weaker, it was about making all of them able to experience death.

>but they do say that he did it when he first confronted them
No Zombie was killed later. What Aleister did in their first encounter was collecting info on every single magic god in order to tune his mortality spell for every single one of them.

Him dying would fuck the plan since he can't correct any failures. He was just going to die there since he didn't have anyway to come back from the damage, which means the whole thing may or may not still be fine. Touma didn't explode like he thought he would, which is also a decent sign.

>You're denying that her words imply only one thing
Yes, because it's left open ended you dumbass. To say that she could only POSSIBLY be talking about confessing to him when she knows his memories are beyond fucked is stupid. It's one among many things that she could tell him about. She's one of the only people who really knew pre OT1 Touma. She might intend to confess as well, and she might intend to reveal any a number of other things, who knows. Alls I know is the retard here is the one who pretends this single line is some irrevocable proof his waifu is totally only not confessing because of memory shenanigans. Almost as stupid as you dumb Misakifags claim she's the "original heroine" too. Dumbfucks, the lot of you.

>The world wasn't destroyed by Othinus' presence
That's Othinus, they were supposed to be different. Did you notice how they didn't have the 50/50 problem?
>and the fight supposedly happened when Aleister crashed into the fun house anyways.
That was Aleister's fight, not Noukan's fight.

>the fight supposedly happened when Aleister crashed into the fun house anyways.
No it didn't. Noukan is prepping for the fight in the between the lines section of NT12. Aliester is already recovering from the god brawl by that point. The gods nerf'd themselves before existing the crumbling club house.

>Can accel be stopped
I've said it time and time again. Even with Clonoth, just jam his fucking choker network, toss him in an underground bunker, etc. His weaknesses hasn't magically disappeared, he's just got more arsenal.

Yeah, I agreed with you. Zombie was nerfed by his own spell, so full power MG are still undefeated.

>Aleister's Hijack didn't make them weaker,

I thought it also stopped them from undoing the infinite division of their power

HP says that the issue is Aleister can't have swapped out what spell Zombie used without killing her. Aleister then tosses her body at him. It's pretty clear he's saying that he did in fact kill her before swapping the spells around.

Hehe. MUH WINGS say hello.

>You're alone with a girl (kek) and she says that she "really" wants to have sex right now. Looks at you.
>(you): I don't understand?
That's you right now.

He doesn't need the network with wings. He killed Amata with a dead battery.

Othinus wasn't 50/50 the whole time. When she got the fairy lance and gungnir the world didnt break until she broke it, and none of the phases she made seemed to be particularly vulnerable to breaking either. Not to mention Othinus used to be Odin and there was little indication the world was breaking then either. Unless the single between the lines section about tally marks on the wall disappearing was supposed to signify "the world crumbling" which would then mean Zombie showing up for a while would be fine anyways.

>stealing design from FGO
wow that's daring

> Did you notice how they didn't have the 50/50 problem?
That problem only occured because she tried to get her powers back after discarding them once. The only difference between normal MG (which Othinus orginally was) and Othinus is that she need something to control her power. So it very likely she has more control over her overflowing power than Other MGs. Also she is older than most of them if the ones we saw are anything to go by so she might just have more experience in controlling the influence her power ha sover the world.

>Him
She was a girl.

Re-read my post, but slower. Nowhere in there did I deny that he killed her before hijacking the spell. He did it after.
But my point was that nothing stated or proves that she was killed when she was at full power. And it's actually more logical that she was killed when she wasn't.

>I thought it also stopped them from undoing the infinite division of their power
Nothing of the sort was stated. If it undid the infinite division then the world would be destroyed since they would be back at full power.
It was more about being able to "kill them, and totally really kill them when they are killed", since HP also said that even if they get killed in their current state only one iteration of their existence in the infinite mirrors would be killed.

taking things from other series is commonplace in raildex

>Boost: Othinus
>Suddenly back to normal
It's going to happen, probably as Neph is dying at some point because she's too tsun to help her any other time.

It's only a temporary boost though.

If that worked Neph would have fixed what Aleister did

She would only need it long enough to cast some shenanigans to get herself back to how she was. Use your temporary boost to summon Gungnir and go from there.

Going to have to be a bit more specific on "what aleister did" means. The nerf spell? Hasn't been cast on Othinus. Fairy spell just works to "make old gods tamer"

>Yes, because it's left open ended you dumbass.
Yet everything around the context in that entire arc and even the ending imply that that's what she means.
>Y-You're a misakifag
Has literally nothing to do with it. I am not an illiterate faggot like you who can't see the obvious writing on the wall and the meaning behind her words.
>it's one among many things that she could tell him about.
It's the most obvious thing she's going to talk with him about you fucking inbred.

I mean Neph would have fixed Aleister nerfing the Magic Gods if she had that sort of power.

How is it more logical to think Zombie died post nerf, when she was killed before the nerf spell was ever even cast? At that point you need to start making up ideas about "Maybe Zombie was at home practicing how to nerf herself when Aleister crashed in and surprise attacked her." It's not impossible, but it seems to be implied that's the case.

Gungnir doesn't boost her power, it just lets her control it. It can't control what's not there.

>The nerf spell? Hasn't been cast on Othinus. Fairy spell just works to "make old gods tamer"

>“Well, we are talking about Great Demon Coronzon of the Abyss making an appearance here on the surface. You could say this is like the world’s internal organs being dragged out. Really, we’re lucky the foundational laws haven’t entirely collapsed yet.”
Wouldn't Coronzon going batshit here be akin to the MG's possibly destroying the world with their presence? Like it's something that can easily happen but not going to instantly occur? Otherwise the second they are born everything would shatter. HP wouldn't even have had a chance to slaughter those jealous monks.

>Othinus wasn't 50/50 the whole time.
No she technically was, because that's how her infinity manifested. Her infinity (infinite possibility) is about encompassing both positive and negative alike, hence the 50/50 bullshit.
But for some reason, the other MGs infinity apparently manifested in pure raw power that just fucks up the world with the smallest movement they made instead of a 50/50 risk.
Why the difference? I don't know, ask Kamachi since those are what he wrote in the text, I didn't interpret or deduce jack shit. I'm literally playing the parrot here.

>When she got the fairy lance and gungnir the world didnt break until she broke it, and none of the phases she made seemed to be particularly vulnerable to breaking either.
No. The lance didn't make her any stronger, it just filtered the negative part and only let the positive part manifest.
> Not to mention Othinus used to be Odin and there was little indication the world was breaking then either.
There is, Othinus once stated when Marian was fighting them that the sheer presence of the gods that she summoned would have destroyed the world. But it didn't happen because she imprisoned them in a closed up dimension before starting the fight.

>That problem only occured because she tried to get her powers back after discarding them once.
When and where was this ever stated? If there's no proof, then this is pretty much your headcanon.

If Neph can't fix what Aleister did, I really doubt she can fix the sort of damage Othinus has, which is much more severe.

>5. That lance would destroy the symbols of human power.
It doesn't have *no* power.

Didn't the hijack also take their phase powers?
>“Didn’t you hear from the High Priest? Thanks to ‘him’, we’re weakened at the moment.
>We had hoped your Imagine Breaker could do something about that, but it didn’t work.
>Not that it really matters.”
>“We’re not the ones this is a real problem for. I just can’t figure out what ‘he’ was thinking
>by dragging us into the real world in this incomplete state. You could say we’re in a state
>where we can destroy the world but lack the strength to recreate it afterwards.”

The damage Othinus has is just "HP didn't make her full size" more or less though. Remember that Touma actually pulled out the fairy stake. She's under no spells other than anything HP might have snuck in right now.

Yeah, Neph was able to create a phase once in her fight against Kamisato, but that was the last of her power.

There's a logical concept called "explosion". Basically, it means that if you assume something false is true, every single other statement automatically follows.
Kamachi was probably drawing on that for the other MGs.

Marian's fight isn't really an indication that Odin herself was breaking the world by just existing. I'll take that as more meaning that "yes, the between the connected points paragraph is how the world breaks"

>How is it more logical to think Zombie died post nerf, when she was killed before the nerf spell was ever even cast?
No its not more logical, it's more ridiculous to think that she was killed before. What makes you think she was killed before?
1 - Noukan was the one who killed her. not Aleister.
2 - Zombie is the one who helped creating and casting the spell.
3 - They were all together inside their secret phase before going out.
4 - They could only have got out after casting the spell.
5 - How could Noukan kill Zombie when everyone else was around and without them noticing?
6 - Aleister jobbed to them at full power. If Noukan could kill them one by one at full power without them noticing then why didn't he just tell Noukan to do that in the first place?

Do people honestly think the other main characters can hang onto their sanity much like the same with Touma during NT9? People need to understand why it is that Touma could resist for that long.

And why is that, user?

>What makes you think she was killed before?
>Whether you had a spell or not, you would need to defeat Zombie, a Magic God, to replace her spell!
This line right here states pretty clearly that Aleister had to beat Zombie before he could replace her spell.

Aleister could probably kill Zombie with that Big Bang attack, and since only the target can sense it no one else would notice.

You know what would be cool if Othinus and Index did some sort of team attack like LPR

For one thing, Touma preserved his sanity by neglecting his own self worth everytime and fought for every world he experienced because he believed in its worth. This isn't something that needs to be answered if you read the novel. Thinking that if you replace Accelerator or Hamazura into his shoes is missing the point. He's the one wielding IB, he's got the messiah complex.

Aliester can only do god killing magic through the AAA. That's why it's so important that he thinks he can't win without. Nothing that machine has done comes close to the big bang.

Othinus pretty much eclipses Index in knowledge though it seems like. Even when they combined with Germaine it was largely Othinus telling her what to do

It held Mikoto. That surpasses Big Bang in our opinions.

Nowhere did she said that it was because of Aleister. She must have referred to Zombie's original spell who made them weaker, then.

What exactly are you trying to say? Please reformulate it in a way that people would understand.

>Marian's fight isn't really an indication that Odin herself was breaking the world by just existing.
It's not about Odin doing it. It's about the fact that it's canon that a god's sheer presence alone can destroy the world.
And holy fuck HP said it a dozen times himself and Aleister's whole plan was based on this too (since it's the very reason why they nerfed themselves in the first place), why are you doubting something that every characters who know what they're saying said?
Also you got it backwards. In Raildex, Odin is based on Othinus, not the opposite.
>Marian's fight isn't really an indication that Odin herself was breaking the world by just existing.
What are you exactly trying to say?

Probably because it was a method that would only work on Zombie.

>0 to 540 in 4 hours
You'd think raildexkeks actually had something to talk about with how fast this thread have been.

We're not sure if it would have worked, but the Big Bang was apparently Aleister's last ditch plan if he had to kill them all himself.

>She finally exceeded the limits of the existing universe.

>This had originally been a secret technique meant to take on every last Magic God at once. Even if the one taking the damage had a limit to their imagination, her enemy’s mind would be mercilessly blown away by enough energy to create the universe ten times over.

Nope. Othinus can do shit on her own. Index will not only get in the way but would inadvertently bring misery to Touma somehow.

It said because of "him". Zombie is a girl so it can't be her.

Is Zombie my girl?

>full power MG
>being defeated by raw power
Go to sleep MP

Othinus can't do magic.

Based Mikototard

Index can actually cast the spell now that her collar is gone, shes just too retarded to realize

She’s a girl. She is magic.

I'm using Odin to denote when Othinus was at full power during her days s the Allfather. It's not a mix up but a clarification.
>What are you saying
I'm saying even when Othinus lived, before NT9 and all those other phases, just living in this one, there was no real indication the world was breaking by her existing. The only thing that really seems to note otherwise is the paragraph about "that individual" wanting something constant and losing it. So either the world breaking isn't quite so literal, and is minor cracks among the world that add up, or for some odd reason Othinus is the only god that is allowed to be full power and not fuck up the world. Which would be exceedingly strange.

Post fat girls

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You mentioned that you didn't understand why did the other MGs were incapable of living within the world without it exploding with their smallest movement.
I suggested that when Kamachi solved the omnipotence paradox for them, he drew from the principle of explosion. They can make the rock and lift it, which is a contradiction, and thus every statement follows.
See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion

>Depowered Othinus can do shit on her own
Based Othinustard

>This line right here states pretty clearly that Aleister had to beat Zombie before he could replace her spell.
And how can he hijack/replace a spell that wasn't even cast in the first place?
Have you forgotten, that Aleister's speciality is hikacking already cast spells? He literally showed us a real example by hijacking Mather's contract with Coronzon using Mather's corpse. Sounds familiar?
You also didn't answer any of my question.

A full powered magic not only has infinite power (a big bang isn't infinite power), but they are also literally immortal, hence the need for the spell, so no.

What method? And why would you assume said method would only work on Zombie? Based on which logic?

Call me a stupid idiot but I’m one of the rare few who like Molotov AND Index at the same time boys. I like em both

That's what she wants you to think. Realistically, there's actually nothing stopping her from doing so besides blowing her cover and possibly being in a 50/50 state again.

>Molotov
Based Mikototard phoneposter

user do you really think Aliester didn't use the big bang against full power magic gods when he can't beat nerf'd one?

>Aleister's speciality is hikacking already cast spells
Only spells that are made based on his system. There's no reason to assume the magic gods are using his system. And he never had to kill the originator of a spell to hijack it before. The problem here is you're assuming something very different to me. When High Priest says Zombie's spell was replaced, what you are imagining is that Aleister had to kill her to get the password to the computer. However what I am saying is that it sounds a lot more like Aleister is telling the gods that the moment they allowed the spell to be cast on them they had already lost. The difference between hacking into a computer or replacing what is inside a syringe when the gods agreed to taking a "vaccine" from Zombie, and it was something else. Might not have even truly been Zombie who cast it by that point.

Magic Gods are limited to a single universe. An attack with ten times the power of the big bang would be dangerous to them. And the Magic Gods didn't have their infinite immortality thing going on before Zombie's spell, killing them once would be enough to kill them.

Plus it's not like Aleister would have designed it if he didn't think it had a shot of working.

>user do you really think Aliester didn't use the big bang
>This had originally been a secret technique meant to take on every last Magic God at once
Yeah, sounds a lot like he didn't actually use it to me.

If you read the whole sentence fully she also talks about "dragging them to this world". Meaning, his actions forced them to do all of this which lead them to be weakened.

For the 100th of time, I'm literally saying that Othinus is different. The true GREMLIN are the ones who work like that. But concept it something that existed since NT10 and HP brought it back up again saying that it was the case for them.
>or for some odd reason Othinus is the only god that is allowed to be full power and not fuck up the world. Which would be exceedingly strange.
But that is literally the case though.
HP said it himself. And like I said, if you want to know why, as Kamachi.

Okay thanks, I'm not familiar with this. I'll try reading this.

Seems a bit strange then that no other magic god ever figured out how to walk around normally until now if Othinus has existed for this long.

no ones reading all that shit bro lol

Thanks Mikoto. We all love you.