Akuyaku Reijou Nanode Rasubosu wo Katte Mimashita

otome villainess' engagement is annulled by retarded prince as per usual, she gets isekai memories so she tries to capture the last boss, and now the tables are turning

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I saw she acquired an entourage of Iris like merry randoms/orphans/workers.

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OH MY DISCARDED WORKERS NEN?

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O MY WORKER NEN

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one question otomeniggers
why?

Why not

They make my heart go dokidoki.

i want to be an ojousama

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This is the only interesting part. Why is she doing this? Is she a yandere? Is she a lesbian yandere? Is she the villainess reincarnated into best girl taking her life back? Was she just a golddigging whore all along? Well its japanese so its probably something stupid like she saw the happy couple when she was 5 and became mortal enemies with main girl.

I want the oujosama.

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>Villainess is actually good
>Heroine is secretly evil

I hate this shitty trope

go read some funa, the heroine is openly evil

i hope it's yandere yuri, even though i know it absolutely won't be that patrician of a series

Lesbian yandere would be pretty magnificent

It's a reverse ClairexRei where the heroine is yandere / evil to destroy everything around the villainess to capture her for her rape cave.

is there a single isekai shit that doesn't have to rely on cheats for their redemption or wank?

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SHE'S JUST HELPING GOOD PEOPLE

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exterminator and the cooking one with fenrir
mostly cause they were well adjusted middle aged men who dont need to be redeemed. they are op as shit but all isekais heros are

How will the MC prevent the demonslord from destroying the world due to jealosy with that many handsome men in one place ?

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Is this actual SEAnigger TL commentary?

Based. I hope you aren’t joking.

Otomehamplanets are more present than otomeniggers.

>cooking with Fenrir
>cheat shop
Yeah no.

This is quite a libel-ish meme. Estelion's Imouto/Loli Mamoritai is not the grammarcheck guy.

it was a wild ride

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cute sage

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i want to protect her smile

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Oh look, I forgot this story actually had a plot

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I can't believe they're fucking dead

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Another chapter of Let's Wank Mathias is up.

At this point I just feel bad for the demons, mostly because the protagonist irritates the hell out of me and that's coming from someone that doesn't really mind OPMCs most of the time.

This dumb lizard is literally the only good part of this whole thing and the only reason why I'm still reading it.

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Why do they always have to kill female enemies? Just rape them.

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>Mathias
>understanding sex

So far I've seen a single non revenge isekai where the MC actually rapes a girl that tried to murder his ass. Just fucking one.

Just appreciate the cute dragon loli

29-yr old bachelor?

Yes. The fact that you recognize it just from that alone means it's super rare to happen.

I hate how those are basically "let's train cute girls to become overpowered" stories. I don't fucking care about the girls. Kenja no mago was even worse in that aspect, because he even trained other guys to become broken.

Thing is I care more about literally anyone else but Mathias, Mathias isn't fun or interesting, he's just a cocky asshole that's always right and gets wows from people just by farting.

You're super rare to happen...

No u

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wuxiaworld.com/novel/the-novels-extra/tne-chapter-287

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zig zig

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Can an isekai even be good without slaves?

No. We need more slaves. Slave harem is doing it right, but that shit is slow as molasses.

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I thought you cunts wanted separate threads for Otome and General Isekai

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>exterminator
>O MY POISON
Shame on you.

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well, that's that or another rpg-stats-skills-itembox-adventurersguild-slavecatgirl isekai

This. Otomeniggers have been getting awfully cocky lately. Is it because mods don't delete their threads?

Where are my murderhobo bros at?

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New chapter of the cringe guy and his cute summoner.

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It's only a couple otomeniggers that think they're too good for these threads. There's hardly ever a separate thread for them, cause there's no point.

Is this a good example of native isekai?

Goblin Slayer is

8 is prime!

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>renaissance-tier isekai with guilds doesn't have any knowledge of banking
worldbuilding isekai really all rely on people being absolute retards to make the MC shines thanks to their vague half-assed ideas

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you have to remember that that world has no jews

please stop bullying the hyuk

The absolute madman did it

>scans start droping chapters and mess up the story

fug

>See an interesting isekai
>add it to backlog
>Never catch up on any
>Consumption pace slows with divided attention

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sahyuk about to get beat up by the bully troupe again

even modern day jews can't hold a candle to renaissance Dutchmen.

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Forgot rape, for the most part stories seem to easily forgive girls, or give them a sob story that makes their actions forgiveable.
Give me stories where the MC can make a just judgment without being swayed by cuteness or beauty. Bonus for merciless ryona .

Consider that in Europe, the reason for the stereotype of Jews being greedy and money-loving, was because Christianity at the time forbade lending money, but Judaism didn't. And so, with no one willing to have a JEW around for work, they ended up being the only banking systems around, thus becoming a useful loophole.
Their world might not have any jews, but still have the religious restrictions that might disincline people to develop a bank system.

for a very long time banking and the concept of loans and interest was cracked down hard by kings, especially when one racial group who shall remain nameless would use them to exploit others

>or give them a sob story that makes their actions forgiveable.
Everyone save for the most demented sociopaths have some sob story that makes their actions forgivable to someone. We just generally don't care that the child rapist was himself a victim of childrape, and would rather see him hang.

i like how this guy became demon lord of that world

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yeah but we're programmed if a cute grill approaches us with teary eyes to pity her in hope she rewards us with sex. As a male you can't deny this, even if you're conscious of it you'll still have these feelings.

tuff loli

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gs is closer to actual fantasy
>I Somehow Got Strong By Raising Skills Related To Farming
is a perfect example though

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what's the title?

Not everyone can be Fang Yuan and threat other humans as bags of bones waiting to expire.

>bullying slimes
NO, UNACCEPTABLE

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He literally posted it you imbecile. You could've at least googled it before asking that retarded ass question.

i havent hit that problem yet, but probably because i usually skip genderbender tag like the plague. only read youjo senki and that was it.

It's doesn't have to be so black and white though.

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Cute.

>“I’ve been looking for you. Kim Suho, you son of a bitch, you disloyal dog, brainless bull. You turtle look-alike, rodent eater. You’re so dead.”
She just doesn't learn. All those beatings were not enough.

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I can have feelings on something, and still act against those feelings, user.
Of course, there's always compromises. Instead of letting go a cute criminal, just rape her and make her a criminal slave. She gets to live, and you get guaranteed sex, instead of the wishy-washy uncertainty of just letting her go.

Why can't we have an isekai where the MC actually lives out his depraved fantasies with his slave? I mean the best we got was some vanilla sex.

she did it!

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is this the michael bay directors cut?

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Need "beatings will continue until morale improves" with that beaten up sahyuk, then "Why didn't you listen" doompacolypse edits with hajin.

Real talk we need actual pictures for characters at this point for how popular this seems to be.

fighting > sex

I can't stand most male characters in isekai. I hate edgelords, I hate cynical literally mes, I hate moralfags, I hate black haired oresamas with tsurime eyes.

someone needs to steal her character and make her MC

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>Kim Suho shook his head in response.
>“No, she’s also one of us.”
Say what you want but I’ll ship Suho with Sahyuk. Dude’s too kind for his own good but maybe that kindness will get through to her one day.

>I hate cynical literally mes
wat?

You can beat her into submission afterwards again.

does anyone have all the novel illustrations for bertia?

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can anyone stop CHAD loen?

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Just once I'd like there to be a twist. Such as the MC changing so much around that reality gets warped, and SHE in her current state is the de facto protagonist of the game in her old world, or the heroine of a popular spinoff elseworld. And since the world and role has changed, she has to adapt to a new villainess role every time. Like a Quantum Leap for otomeshit.

Nayun doesn’t even remember the amusement park incident? Shitty writing there, mr. author.

Poor Loren. He's only a couple arcs away from
>Lapis: Hey Loren I have a super easy quest from the guild, are you ready to go?

youtube.com/watch?v=c13ibXnsnfw

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>but probably because i usually skip genderbender tag like the plague.
What's wrong with genderbender? Especially if the result is a loli?

>drills
oh yes

Jesus christ, just how much debt has this man accrued?

God I wish I was that fairy for the private use of notguts.

just not a fan of it honestly, lose interest fast since i lose any sort of connection i had with the story / character(s). just happened with jagaaaan. ended up dropping it when they had guy that could jump bodies and ended up body snatching a hot chick, author decided that was worth going into multiple chapters to explore.

Finally caught up to The Abandoned Empress latest scans but I just found out about the ending. Can someone tell me how Koreans can be even worse than japs at making ending?

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Enough that the only way for him to get out of it is for him to marry Lapis.

Which LN is that from? Those are some high quality ojou-samas.

Gender benders can be good sometimes.

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otome mob

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So, everything is going according to her plans?

lapis i think has him pegged at +30g on her word, but loren figures its a lot higher because she rigged the sale of the equipment she bought him. his sword right now probably goes for a few hundred gold at least, and the coat aint cheap either.

>i lose any sort of connection i had with the story / character
How so? aren't most of them gender bended in chapter one?

>Black dragon
>Has red hair
???

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Yes, Lapis is Kira.

I know right? That shit and Empress of Another World is probably amongst the worst isekai shit ever. Almost as bad as Re:Monster.

She's a nigger in her dragon form.
Empress of Another World is some amazing shit if you want to read about someone turning into a complete asshole because reasons.

dibs on the loli with the hat.

O
MY
DOUBLE
ENTRY
BOOKKEEPING

The Korean whore is already an asshole the moment she keep bitching and fucking over the family that save her. I drop the series when she finally had an epiphany that without their help some useless bitch like her would probably end up dying on the street side.

I had a good giggle when she watched them burn and then realized that she didn't give one iota of a fuck.

>tfw no Marie in a box to IMAGINE

My biggest problem with Korean isekai shit is that for some reason they always love pairing the MC with the worst possible guy. Doesn't matter if the guy is a mass murderer rapist, that shit makes me mad as hell.
I dropped Empress of Another world like 30 chapters in, how did it end?

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The best Korean Isekai is the one who wants to be doted so she can survive.

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She had a kid with the male lead and they're living happily ever after, the after story is basically them scheming people into oblivion.

reading a few of korean longstrips but not otome. i like them so far.

Does this have a LN i can read instead of waiting for translations?

They have to, Koreans love drama and their notPorn webtoons with men beating women all day. Shit's a national epidemic.

I must admit I found myself mainly reading this one for her various faces of disgust.

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title of the thread
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She had red hair(horns) as a dragon too. Even kept the bands.

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Bless you

literally asking to be bullied fucking hard

You should read I was born as the kings daughter. Never have i hated all characters in a work like I did with that. I was hoping for an asteroid to hit them all and wipe them out

I cant belive I'm missing protaganists who befriend people after they defeated them. I cant symptathize with MCs who are sociopathic

that's an inspiration from Lest Darkness Fall

>her dad and brother murder thousands of innocent women to win a war
>shits not mentioned after that and it's a riding off into the sunset ending

If it was a bit realistic they would be getting French revolutioned

another chapter of
>everyone thinks you are of the weakest
>but actually, you are of the strongest!

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>>everyone thinks you are of the weakest
>>but actually, you are of the strongest!
They thought that for like 2 days and everyone moves into his house to try and get him to do shit while he figures out how they can fuck when everyone keeps visiting.

>he gets a wife
>he treats her like a wife without being a shy beta
holy shit what a concept, is this real?

As dumb as the start was, I can't hate it since he just straight up tells her he's an isekai and then proposes to the dog wife. It's so simple and straightforward I can't hate it, obviously not mentioning how cute dog wife is.

hnnnNNNGGGGGHHH

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>tfw you missed the spice trade era and will never be isekai'd and start the spice trade yourself
>seize the trade routes
>bombard those that do not want to open ports or borders
>drug their population with cheap drugs
>no planes so Navy Supremacy, paint them black because it's cool
>slaves to pick every spice imaginable, fuck and kill them afterwards
>install royalties and pamper your daughters who you also fuck
>male peasants wage war as you are comfy in your gigantic mansion with good food from the spices
>plant mint because you need to brush your teeth

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Because a lots of otome villainesses are best girls.

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How do you prefer your isekai magic systems?
Do you like for them to be specially crafted to suit the MC's skills or modern knowledge?
Based on the power of IMAGINATION?
Follow some kind of tabletop/DnD-type of spell system?
Or just have a game system with arbitrary skills, and forget about having a real system?

I really do like the idea od Cultivation and Daos.
Especially when a person uses attacks that matches their personality.

Actually, originally otome threads used to just have nothing but otome in them, with light fantasy. But they became general isekai threads due to isekaifags migrating to them, since their own threads either tend to die off early or get pruned.

WE MUST PURGE ALL THE ISEKAI NIGGERS FROM OUR PURE OTOME THREADS

Yes otome but otome ISEKAI threads never existed without isekaifags.

Dumb prince

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Saw it coming, the likelihood a scanlator will drop a series is directly proportional to how much "commentary" and fan comics they like to include in their releases.

don't do us dirty like this you dumb niggers, stop.
i like how its set up in GS / broke merc, i think only klaus can use magic for an extended period so far in broke merc.

Otome nigger please, you took the isekai title since your shit would never last without it.

Is the rape attempt incoming?

You know what I hate more then chinkshit?. Mobniggers. But it's good to see that they havent infested the past few threads with there shit

they didn't drop the series, just some chapters, like going from c. 42 to c. 45 without translating 43&44

chocolate and shampoo have been succesfully introduced and make her family billionnaire, next target is introducing miso and s.o.y. sauce

one chance to redeem itself by being a degenerate genderbender instead, but no, it wants to stay as generic isekaishit instead

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>Akuyaku Reijou Nanode Rasubosu wo Katte Mimashita

I can't keep up with all those untranslated titles. I don't even remember what is what on lh translation's project page.

>ntr
Dropped

>kemono michi fan gets isekai'd

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>“Jin Sahyuk. We haven’t seen each other since Akatrina, huh? I see you’re acquainted with Kim Suho as well.”
>“…Stop talking to me.”
You know you're the true Novel's Extra when even a villainess you spent some quality bonding-through-fighting time with doesn't even want to talk with you.

reminder that Yotsuba is an isekai

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Doesn't isekai just become boring when your MC is too overpowered and there's literally nothing that can stop him?

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They did though, they were always separate from regular isekai threads.

Does the truth hurt user?

turns into slice of life + wish fulfillment

No.

This is some bullshit revisionism right there.

What the fuck is a deepwater jew?

yes, why do you think all these garbage go stale so quickly
It takes actual effort and maybe research to write otherwise. Keep in mind 99% of these web novel shit are basically fanfiction-tier. There are apparently nips on the other side that are also translating MoL and other english web novel stuff.

Why are stories about true underdogs succeeding after so many anguish so damn satisfying? Kingdom of Bloodlines is fucking great

an atlantis jew?

hi, what drives you to just spout bullshit?

Naruhodo

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He's drawn too smug. Feels like they're trying too hard to present his shameless autism as a virtue instead of an amusing defect in the novels
>Why is everyone so bad at magic? Just constantly obsess over it for thousands of years like I did lol

Thales can't fart without alerting half the intelligence agencies on the continent, not sure if I'd call what he's doing succeeding. Wish we'd finally fucking leave prison Namek already.

The true catharsis of all the chapters so far was that duel against middle-rank guy in the prison when Thales realizes he's actually strong. My boner broke the stratosphere.

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Poor guy has been fightning nothing but combat monsters all his life so he didn't realize that he's actually decent in a fight until then.

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what about western novels
Kaladin's parts throughout the 1st and 2nd book are all about that, with antagonists that usually more rounded compared to chinkshit where they exist only to aggregate the reader
the parts about the other characters (it's an ensemble cast) start out really slow and are boring until the later books though, but it's worth it for Kaladin's parts alone if you're into underdogs

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Problem with this series is that Sanderson just went full meme >muh epic 1500-pages-per-book hundredology fantasy. For sure it makes a solid background and strenghten the set-up, but in the end you could probably cut half of the pages and still remain with a story that would change much. FFS, just in the first book there's hundreds of pages of flashbacks that are totally useless.
It just feels like the only thing that drove Sanderson when writing this was "more". "more" characters, "more" pages, "more" books, "more" magic systems, "more" races, "more" gods... just like Red Dead Redemption 2 has been marketed as "more" hours, "more" characters", "more" places, "more" zones, "more" events, "more" lines, "more" actors, "more" budget...

This is pretty cool thanks for bringing it to my attention OP, kinda sad it's only a few chapters in I hate waiting for TLs

It is hard to think of any enjoyable chapters in the series that *did not* involve Kaladin. But I loved his parts enough that I was willing to go through a bunch of boring chapters that I'm still waiting for to become relevant, if they ever will.
i do agree on all the filler chapters, like I'm still waiting for that shoe cobbler guy to be relevant, seems kinda odd to waste a whole chapter and character just to barely flesh out another dude

this is so boring. Athy is so enjoyable to read through, but all the other korean web comics are so mediocre

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I'm liking the bodyswapped holy knight one that doesn't comprehend the meaning of "don't be a sociopath".

>Why is she so stubborn… good grief.
You literally just killed her father, Shuya, my dude, I know I'm talking to a sociopath whose only desires in life are ADVENTURE and fucking every attractive woman you see but goddamn.

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Dropped this shit after he cheated on his true watefu out of nowhere.

I like that too, but I think I've gone through like at least a couple dozen korean web comics and I've only come out with Athy and wild girl that I actually enjoy.
I still have a bad aftertaste from reading Doctor Elise and the NEET summoned one.

i want something like Athy again. It's what gave me the same feelings as reading through Bakarina vol 1 years ago, and frankly I see Bakarina as an inferior athy now.

Guy was never gonna be monogamous, hell he's got 3 charges of "time to turn this woman into a true ancestor" bites, the bigger problem is Helme being backed up and him still refusing to fuck her.

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Isn't the whole thing with Helme just Master-Servant?

A god made a mistake and killed you off accidentally. You can't return to your original world, but he manages a metric shit ton of other worlds where you can be reincarnated if you so wish. He also promises you to give you a cheat and asks you what 3 things you deem absolutely necessary in your new world to exist. (Since you were originally human you'll be reborn in a world that has at least some form of human civilization living in it, you don't have to mention that).

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I mean, most women with no fighting experience would probably not attack the guy who just killed their father.
Probably less of a question and more of an inner-complaint.

>Cheated
>Out of nowhere
While I can understand wanting to true waifu the butt spirit, it's really hardly out of nowhere.
It's like expecting a non-married man in the military to not fuck someone when stationed long-term in another country. He had no expectation of coming back to her pond any time soon, especially considering her 1-year-appearance thing.

They fuck all the time later. She also fucks the butts of his other waifus.

Helme's butt-stuff fetish cannot be contained.

fuck i wish more isekai/fantasy had slime characters in it (that stayed slimes).

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If I'm ever going to be isekai'd the world needs.
>1. Slaves
>2. Cute beast girls
>3. Bread
Actually only the first 2 really matter, the third thing is optional.

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>what 3 things you deem absolutely necessary in your new world to exist
Do I get to pick my cheat? And do the three things have to be real?

In order of importance, my three things would be:
The ability to understand and communicate in all the world's languages.
Access to Internet (specifically Earth internet, but…)
And a bottomless inventory.

i know what you're trying to do, you're trying to get ideas for your own homebrew

isekai with a TARDUS cheat would probably be interesting

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You ain't getting shit, you're supposed to pick things that exist in the world you're going to.

>you're supposed to pick things that exist in the world you're going to.
All the world's languages exist in that world, right?

What series?

>Guns don’t kill people. People kill people. That’s a good quote.
Astrid really is /k/ the Villainess

Yes, but only because languages exist doesn't mean you'll get a free ability to understand them.

well, ok

Knowledge of all languages isn't really an "ability" tho, is it?
But if it has to be a physical thing, just give me a servant/slave/familiar with the local common sense, and a reasonable weapon for self-defense.
Also food, I guess.

Then I guess you must have to eliminate people, as they're obviously the root of the problem.

Look, you ain't getting anything but your initial cheat ability. You are supposed to pick 3 things that you want to exist in the world. Like for example you want mc donalds to exist in your new world. You personally don't get anything else.

>Disney isekai otome
twitter.com/breadmasterlee/status/1116032082122350594?s=19

Now we're down the rabbit hole

Kyon clones.

i wonder how popular disney is there.

Only japan would do something like this

Holy fuck mate

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Disney Japan was always special.

What the fuck.

Yeah, that's nice and all but where's the protag's design?

Who the fuck cares as long as we get cute boys?

I WANT TO GET OFF THE ISEKAI WILDRIDE

>entire town and population of Quarterlatin burned into ash overnight, nee one orphanage
>but it's fine because some musician protected one orphanage, never mind all the women and children who were killed because they weren't there
>perpetrator is a retarded little kid irl
The more I think about the neverending Tian genocide, the worse this sense of incongruity gets. How are we supposed to treat Tian lives with gravitas if the author doesn't give half a shit? How has there not been multiple people tracking down murderers irl and fucking killing them outright?

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Why is FUNA so infamous? Didn't she only write 3 notable isekai LNs?

Aren't they behind the SJW starwars movies? I hope they don't try to poison japan with their american values.

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Is writing villainess an author's rebellion against mary sue heroines? What's the difference between what they write and what authors with heroine protagonists write?

You're reading way too deep into this.

Always this shit.
>I'm actually really capable, but I don't wanna stand out
Those neet like to self-insert into that to feel better for being useless?

Pretty much. That's why a lot of them just kind of shit the bed because they erase any sort of tension that could come from potential threats early on.

There's also the ones that just go full SoL which some people like but I can't really read at all because without any real conflict or motivation the characters don't really do much and they're generally not really fun enough on their own to maintain interest.

Not really since most of the villainess protags turn into Mary Sues

It's salarymen, not NEETs, it's people that just want to relax forever and not think about going to work tommorow.

Survive as the Hero's Wife is a decent one.

One of the few pieces of gookshit that has a love interest that isn't a complete sociopath.

>>but it's fine because some musician protected one orphanage, never mind all the women and children who were killed because they weren't there
On the bright side, next time there'll be more orphans to protect
>How has there not been multiple people tracking down murderers irl and fucking killing them outright?
Honestly, I would have expected this to have happened a few times. You just normally wouldn't hear about it, because Dendro is a worldwide game, and trying to track down on player is a nightmare.

>only write 3 notable isekai LNs?
More than most. Most isekai writers only have the one notable work.
Plus, FUNA has something of a style, where their MCs and stories are sorta formulaic. And of course they're all lolis. Potion loli, jew loli, average loli… it's easy to keep track of.

It also helps that their penname is short and memorable. Aneko Yusagi has quite a few isekai works, but only one of them (excluding spin-offs) is actually notable, and their name isn't as easy to remember at a glance.

While I don't understand why this is like a stand alone complex with dozens of minor variations on the exact same premise (what the fuck otome game are all of these things parodying?), I like the heroines don't have superpowers and have to use cunning and social mores to solve a clearly presented problem. Because it's always about them interacting with people, they're usually very likeable, so you get a protagonist you root for AND a best girl in one.

I fucking hate this mc so fucking much
holy shit

>Supported by square enix
Probably another Nomura's doing

>reading ORV
>reached the fuck japan arc

Not enough belts and zippers.

Fuck off, my daughterwaifu a cute. Also just give it time dude, she's only 11 months old, her tragedy begins later.

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>gookshit
Shut up racist.

Nigger.

Which is these otome isekai has the best translation? I want to read something that doesn't come across like a JCE-ESL-BBQ nightmare.

It deeply bothers me that actual mass murderers are just regular characters.

I'm reading the Lonely Grinding WN and I just hit the "Japan Wants to Create the Great Japanese Empire by Setting Korea on Fire" arc. The hate gooks have for the japs is amazing.

eliza until you get to asianhobbyist
it's quite a significant chunk, so it's still worth it

Taco.

>Guy's spirit animal is a racist japanese leader
It can't be any more kino.

what's this?

Elves are subhumans and don't deserve to be treated like human beings.

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Korean thing. Lady Baby.

Lady Baby

Kind of mad that this was only a oneshot promotional webtoon for the web novel. Art was nice and the MC is a sexy milf.

Sauce is I’m Only a Stepmother, but My Daughter is Just so Cute!

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does that mean they deserve to be treated better than humans?

they never got over not being able to fight their own war

>smug leaf eaters
gas them

Where is this from? Image search is giving me nothing.

The novel is still cute to read

>I’m Only a Stepmother, but My Daughter is Just so Cute
Sounds like a delusional writer.

I don't think that's what you do with subhumans.

Checking it out. I'm trusting you here.

Fucking google and pinterest!

pinterest.cl/pin/671740100649457194/?lp=true

I thank him for his offer and tell him that everyone makes mistakes. That being said, fuck cheats. If I die again. I die. I'm not taking the easy way out. There's no point in having power that I don't earn myself.

youtube.com/watch?v=CXsebXvLvkU
How nice of CR to upload the first episode of shieldbro to youtube.

WHAT series

m8...

im sorry
I was just using archive linksto get isekai'd into threads
please no bully and I know now what series it is

The only reason I live is hoping that one day I die and get isekai'ed.

im surprised they have all of ace attorney anime on youtube. too bad the animation is ass and they fucking ruined frank sahwits breakdown, still liked it though. also even without clicking im going to guess top comments are gonna be
>HURDUR VIC IS DA REAL SHIELD HERO

>dub

plot twist, you got run over by a merchants wagon and got tensei'd here from isekaiworld but don't remember it.

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>oregon isekai

Why is every female isekai about an otome game villainess and they're a duke's daughter?
This is like the 4th or 5th one i've seen with that exact setup

doubt if you get isekai'd you will live like those ORE TUE WN

>5th
you are like little babby

It's not all of them but there's a shitload of otomege ones, yeah.

Someone post the the chart

>5th
welcome to your first week on otome, here's your basic reading list

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quite a few shoujo isekai that aren't otome. pic related just came out today on mangadex.

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Outdated chart

>dwarfposting

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>tfw you'll never be a cute princess and rest your soft bottom on an elf slaves bare ass

dwarves pls go

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>first words as a baby are complete sentences
sorry, that was just the last straw for me. Started out interesting, then it does the same boring shit as I am a Child of this House where everyone dotes on her endlessly from day 1. Even abandoned empress manages to be more satisfying than this.

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minotaur.club/

H-Mate is the only good Korean isekai

Can Maomao be here?

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she's always had her own threads

but not her own anime

>first prince's mother is maid/concubine
>second prince's mother is the queen
Why are they keeping repeating this in every otome

Current chart.

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Only if the bully is a cute girl that prefers sexual bullying.

there's 2 different manga it seems for some reason, so I guess only 1 is translated?

I need more scarlet.

To provide a legitimate basis for succession struggles.
Otherwise, the second prince is just a salty asshole.

Scarlet vs Rachel, who wins?

oh god who knew ryoko could be so fucking lewd

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still mad maria from hell hasn't been added

Yeah, the alternative is that the first prince is a jackass or dumb, which is often demonstrated by having him dump the high-class villainess for some commoner thot, completely disregarding the political consequences.

Nobody was talking about such a scenario, but it looks like you have something on your mind right now. Also the way you phrased it you iamgine yourself as the submissive elf? You are quite the deviant, aren't you?

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I think they would instead have tea.

How do i read them when there aren't any titles

user, I don't self insert, I just masturbate.

>being a newfag

Raping female villains is tragically underdone.

Opinion of me regarding Korean Shoujo
God tier:
Reverse trap becomes lady
Who made me a princess
Re creators shoujo version
Good tier:
Survive as heroes wife
I belong to house castellano
Okay tier:
Villaness becomes generic do gooder doctor
Stockholm syndrome abandoned empress
Want to erase from my mind tier:
Pshycopath from another world
Incels wet dream webtoon

lazy eye is a fucking grade a maniac

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Based.But what's "incels wet dream"?

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what series?

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definitely not an isekai.

>God tier
>Re creators shoujo version
im a bit offended you're putting that to the same level as wild girl and athy. Too early to make any judgement about the plot, but the art style and storytelling itself is definitely not even close.

Doctor Elise is also very anachronistic. Fucking modern hospital office in a victorian-era setting is just too silly, never mind the ECGs, magic or not. It's not possible to be so advanced in healthcare while the rest of society is still backwards.

Does Himekishi count

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET PARIL

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I'm not sure. It's more like he's the villain.

This week on Astrid the School Shooter: The NAP is finally violated.

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I read the raws and liked it. The villains arent mustache twirling retards and MC isnt a useless sack of potatoes.

I'm not too hung up on the art. I used to read chink webtoons so it dosent bother me anymore

Is that the one with the dude that genderbended and is psudeo porn. I dont think thats shoujo/josei

Because her (male) manwa got axed

What if there was a wild west style isekai?

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Raeliana at the Duke's Mansion is the best one, fight me Athyfags.

because it's just shaping up for the MC to be an OP piece of shit with getting a magic talent instead of trying to succeed as an underdog (albeit everyone else is mentally incompetent)
Also isn't this at a deadend or some sort of hiatus?

>find a good gook webcomic
>turns out be a promo
Every damn time

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those faces man, they alone make the comic.

Stick me in Build Fighters, or some kind of peaceful world with amazing mecha simulators.

Thunk again

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nobody say the N word

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>I'm not too hung up on the art.
the art and paneling/pacing with Athy is like half of what makes it so good though.
It's also why that incel wet dream (I assume that is NEET becomes summonded) is so bad. The pacing is god awful with all the useless panels just filling up space, never mind all the art looking like the author just photoshopped over stock photos.

also dungeon meshi has the most satisfying paneling in a manga for me. Isekaishit adaptations that just pads page count with only 2-3 panels per page is pretty much immediately shit in comparison.

That's because TappyToon is like 30 chapters behind the fan translation

Niko

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>daughter of emperor
So its certain that shes gonna kill her hilter-dad right?

For some reason I had a dream about pouding an office lady on the adventurers guild counter. I blame you, Yea Forums.

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Actual spoilers:
Perdel kills Caitel, the MC goes off into the sunset with the silver haired kid.

>abandoned empress
what a fucking idiot

Nah it's the one where women are treated like dogshit

And the reason panelling dosent bother me is cause I read the novel before the webcomic so I judge it based on its story and characters

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I want them to be female so badly, but their build this chapter looks too flat

write it and share it user

i don't like it because the dynamics between Raeliana and the duke remind me too much of kdramas. Her redemption against her ex-fiancee is juvenile and kinda lame, like some chuuni's fantasy wetdream revenge against their bully or whatever. Art is good but definitely not in the same league as Athy just from the flat coloring alone.

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Just updated my fairy isekai homebrew.
Would it be too obvious if the MC decided to fix their population problem through breeding?

Holy shit ideas i was just memeing. He actually gets punished for his actions?

at least you didn't get gender bent and gangbanged
god waking up after that was fucking weird.

yamero

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I'm not writing anything. Someone else posted it yesterday.

I didn't think I'd hate this series as much as I would even though I'd heard about what happens before hand, but holy shit it's infuriating.

link?

rentry.co/isekai-fairy

oh fuck that one. That one was so bad because the king and the older brothers were such shallow characters and belonged in chinkshit instead. It's as bad as the actual chinkshit webcomic Goddess creation system.
i was happier when i forgot it existed user.

By the end I was wish for all of them to die. The MC is a doormat who had it better then every other women and doesn't try to help using her powers. He fiance is a typical shoujo bitch face. The brother and dad are genocidal maniacs

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Wait, it's over? How does it end?

>the beard was so strong he forced sandrovich to rewrite the end

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>tries to write a tournament arc without being predictable
>succeeds so well not even he knew how it ended

I copied it from a other websites spoiler section so ignore the autism

the ending:

1. baekjo and koryo went to war with each other with the other nation sided with koryo
2. however, baekjo used an army of golem that are made from human parts(mainly women)
3. because they are powerful, normal human cannot defeated them, therefore the koryo army created 1500 of those golem, sacrificing almost 10,000 or more innocent woman to make them (that one world i don't want to live)
4.chris is also a golem, one that is control by Yulda. he died before saying to the mc that to safe the others she has to stab her own heart(but it was actually Yulda plan)
5.the first prince, was control by Yulda sneak in Mc room. he show her an illusion where the first prince cut the king head. but father came in time to awake her from the illusion.
6. at that time Yulda had escaped before the king notice him. Mc told what happen to her father. later he went to the first prince room and asked who he really is but the prince look confuse and doesn't know what the king meaning.
7.just to be safe the king told to lock the first prince in the dungeon with magic all around. he said sorry that he had to do this to the prince which the prince said it is fine.
8.the war suddenly turn worse as the koryo golem began to attack friendly allies. making the allied think that it was all a plan stage by koryo to wipe them out
9.Mc who also goes to war watches as the ride turn. at that moment she recall chris words. where she has to stab herself to safe others
10. she wanted to stab her heart only to see jinsu had stab his own heart first. it turn out when Mc is near him, he could release some saint power.
14.second prince stop father from killing Yulda, saying we cannot kill him for information. but jisun know that the real reason is that he wanted to kill him slowly
15. Mc found out brother and dad sacrifices people. felt guilty but choose to stand by her father side

>15. Mc found out brother and dad sacrifices people. felt guilty but choose to stand by her father side
What the FUCK

Is that the guy with too much mana and Dragon and Spider, or is it just similar art style?

Idiot.

>trest women like shit for so many years
>king sacrafices a bunch of them and dosent have to pay for it
>all of a sudden they get there powers back
Yeah. The novel might not show but I'm 99 percent sure this isnt gonna end well

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Thats him.

Fuck you user for reminding me of this shit

>Girl dies and reincarnated/isekai'd as a Otome Villainess in one of the Otome Game she plays
>Is either she become a goody-two-shoe or is too stupid to be evil
>Villainess that still retains her negative personality isn't isekai'd person

Just once I'd like to see a girl isekai'd as Villainess who still retains her evil personality because her previous life is filled with hatred

or

there is a mental power struggle and the villainess' mind emerged victorious and used her newly found knowledge for her selfish/evil reasons while the FeMC's mind is essentially trapped in the villainess body with no control and is forced to watch how the event will unfold/change in the Villainess POV

This makes Abandoned Empress look tame in comparison, at least in that one the feMC still sort of gets redemption in the end

-otome mcs are more likeable
-they don't have OP god powers
-they're not castrated eunuchs like male mcs because they never had dicks
-they're not obsessed with acquiring slaves

if you want it, you must write it

time to write your own homebrew user, make it good enough that nips will translate it to moon runes for themselves

get that grimdark shit outta here

and you get to make almost tax free money on patreon if you play your cards right.

I actually had a discussion with a friend from Korea about why most Korean shit is so insufferable and it has a lot to do with the culture. In Japan they have the whole "muh honor" autism, while in Korea it's the same but instead of honor it's "muh face".

By face I mean both literally and metaphorically. It's the social face that you show everyone and how everyone sees you, someone who is beautiful is always right. Their actions don't really matter so long as they are socially and physically beautiful. This is why plastic surgery is such a huge thing in Korea and why so much of their media just comes off as shallow and narcissistic.

Don't scroll over if you don't want to know what pic related is it's a tower of shaved off jawbones from various plastic surgeries in korea.

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fuck, should had started writing months ago

Who want to read western otome?

i do

i dunno where user got pic related from, but i saved it as a curiosity and inspiration

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loli isekai>all isekai

Fight me!

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>Stacy get isekai'd into the game a nerd girl she was bullying was playing
>Become worse villainess than the actual one

In their quest for beauty, they all started to turn towards looking like ayyylmaos.

meanwhile how awful chinkshit. A mix of the cultural revolution and how fucked up the country has been even before communism happened what with the opium wars pushing the worst people to be the most successful.

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and then the West has shit like the tide pod challenge and Fyre festival. it's all the same crap in different packages

I honestly think Astrid and Eliza are the only amoral isekai villainesses. Might be forgetting a few.

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Counterpoint - Reki-kun

>the tide pod challenge
Still can't believe there were people actually dumb enough to jam them into their mouths.

eliza isn't amoral
astrid is the manifestation of some retarded wanker's ideal soldier

>… Well, at least I'm no longer working on a game for free.

God, that bring so many bad memories.

fuck tiny hat

>Murdered her entire family, even the children
>Not amoral

This is the only illustration in the entire novel where she isn't depicted wearing a tiny hat

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with that being the only way to stop them from continuing their tyranny
from a utilitarian perspective, she acted perfectly ethically

Sounds like Korea is just in need of a good nuke or two to straighten them out, just like their cousin nipland.

>"muh face"
not a korean only thing, china is the same way. they don't give a fuck about doing the right thing but cannot STAND being shamed for doing the wrong thing.

Were her kid siblings tyrants?

Chink webcomics are so universally terrible but I have actually found one that I liked.

Armored Gull. Pretty much avoids all the bullshit that happens in Xianxia or standard chink fantasy fiction by ditching fantasy altogether and just going full sci-fi mecha. Translations are a fucking pain in the ass to find and they're also absolutely terrible.

The artist fucking adores Armored Core and it shows. Really I think chinks are better at writing sci fi than they are at fantasy, since a lot of the cool cyberpunk artists I follow are chinks.

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looks wrong without one,

Eliza was absolutely terrified of her family's atrocities and how that would later lead to her own death.
Even knowing that she was wracked with guild for years after the fact.

She knew the future (or one version of it) and knew they would become just as bad, and she couldn't risk letting any of them go, because if they found out she killed their family, she feared retaliation.

That explains way too many things.

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My chink web comic guilty pleasure is when a crazy talented female cultivator/assassin/whatever gets reincarnated into 'trash' and basically bitch slaps cunty women every single chapter.

Listen, I'm not saying that she was wrong pragmatically, but that's UNDENIABLY amoral.

having literally seen the future, she knew they were way too indoctrinated already at that point

pick up a dictionary you dense moralfucker

Do these count as tiny hats?

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>but that's UNDENIABLY amoral
user, intent matters when labeling someone amoral.

>Check out Astrid
>Clip instead of magazine

Okay dropped. That rustled my jimmies.

China is slightly different. It's not "muh face" but "muh victory".

All that matters to chinks is "winning" and "success", everything else is an afterthought. Your methods don't matter only your outcomes, you don't win with honor but you get honor by winning.

they look cute, so yes

her hat is just so tiny it's invisible to the human eye

I want a villainess to kabedon me.

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It's probably a translation error.

Yea Forums - Moral Relativism

yeah I suppose there has to be something mainland china is decent at.
I haven't gotten to reading pic related past the beginning of this yet since it's pretty slow and I haven't been hooked yet, but i'll get to it eventually.
Prose with the translation so far has been pretty natural unlike the shit you see with Yen Press or whatever. Like I'd sooner pick Three Body Problem rather than Youjo Senki back up again, though I hope to read both eventually.

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What is this exactly?

God, the designs in Armored Gull are the sickest shit. I've been following the artist for ages.

If only it got some real translations.

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just like in muh isekai settings--- oh wait

What dao does this young man follow?

japs translating western fanfics

I wonder if actually good stuff like Worm has been translated.

>Worm
>good
Not after the Slaughterhouse 9k arc happened.

The "Dood Zaiens Lo'mao" one.

i think the only western fanfic i've ever read was a 40k one about a guardsman, was pretty good but that was years ago. well i lied, i also read stuff by squirrelking but he's way too good for japs.

How do I cultivate to heaven defying level?

Drugs. Lots and lots of drugs.

That looks great.

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S O Y SAUCE
RICE
HOT SPRINGS

ki cultivation goes hand in hand with purging the land of someones elses lineage

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Sheer grit and determination if we go by Fang Yuan. Also a willingness to do literally anything to survive.

>
fuck you it's literally the best we've got

I'm sorry but Worm was already giving me mood fatigue by that point and the 9k arc just killed me because I couldn't be arsed to care anymore.

try killing a few generations of someone's family and then another and another and just keep working your way up until you're killing entire pantheons

What's the logic in it?

You don't need logic when you're trying to prove a point.

What's up with the drugs anyway? It's sounds like something villains would use to get a temporary power boost which usually end up maiming or killing them.

I don't really read cultivation novels and shit.
How's all that work? Something about pills?

Traditional chink medicine has a big cultural influence there, it's also a really fucking old cliche there.

>tfw you can't draw
Also, i wish RR didn't have the simple rating system. 5s are as useless as 1s if they come with no explanation.

Maybe you can forget all of that and just use your donations as a metric, but that doesn't happen for most of the stories.

What if there are innocent people in the sect you are killing?

The kind that gives you a goddamn mech suit.

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You're not missing much. Everything after that just become more and more grimderp than needed and the author track records of small inconsistencies just become more glaring as time went on.

Acceptable casualties since you need to pull out the problem by the root.

>Be a random guy
>Some rich guy asks you to wear his clothes and escort a jade like beauty to the restaurant
>Nobody tries to mess with you as they see all the gold you wear and all the gems your girl wears
>Except for that haughty young master
>His servant tries to stop him, but he tries to take her away by force
>You defeat him and the girl you are with falls in love with you
>You start courting death because he belonged to a Crescent Moon sect
>You defeat them and the beauty you save falls in love with you too
>*You might've have defeated us, but all you did was attract the vengeance from the Half Moon sect
>Get repeatedly ambushed
>Their assassin falls in love with you and leads you to their hideout
>You defeat them
>*It cannot be, are you the master from the prophecy? You might have defeated us, but now the Full Moon sect will kill you*
>A select few of the strongest guys go after you
>You defeat them
>*You are prophecy after all. But you too late, our master Eclipse is already on his way to ultimate power.*
>The boss attacks you
>*Haha, all those previous guys were just a way for me to learn your weaknesses. And the girl you are with from the beginnning is my spy*
>That girl is actually in love with you for real and betrays him
>You defeat the last boss
>Go to a restaurant as a master with the ultimate cultivation power and a whole harem of jade like beauties
They choose their path by themselves.

That's fucking P3 Thanatos on the right.

Speaking of english web novels
Does anyone remember the time-travel english web novel where it's a nurse that goes back in time when he was a teen then he becomes a manslut? Then the true waifu gets confused because he invites him over to "study" like all the other girls but they actually end up just studying because their relationship is more special but she thinks he doesn't like her .etc .etc drama. Eventually he stops being a manslut because it gets way too ugly, like one was a catholic girl that gets too obsessed .etc
also stock market for easy money as per usual with this kind of stories

I cannot remember the name at all and it is bothering me.

>Join strongest sect in town
>"Oh boy, can't wait for me to become strong enough so I can marry my childhood friend!"
>Some asshole slaughter us all just because sect leader's son was messing with him just a little

There's no messing just a little in chink shit, in there if a richfag is fucking with you they're probably destroying your life and they aren't going to stop until your heart stops beating and everything you held dear is dust, your only choices are to roll over or to become the king of all murderhobos so no one can fuck with you anymore.

>Worm
>Good

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And then bigger fish comes and fries your ass.

>tfw no jade-like beauty to visit tea parlours with

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That's moment of truth for your average chink murderhobo, will he overcome that bigger fish or die a dog's death.

>innocent
guilt by association

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Is this why the chinese are all heartless monster people?

Both Wandering Inn and A Practical Guide to Evil are miles better.

>You become the strongest
>Make a sect
>Your son do the same as the young master did to you
Endless circle then

>“Hmm? Loren you wanted to camp with me? If you would’ve told me earlier, I would’ve brought one tent and one sleeping bag.”
My god, this woman.

And then ever bigger fish, ad infinitum.

When is she going to let him repay all his debt at once by letting her ride him like a stallion?

It's eat or be eaten, mercy just lets the deadbeat you're trying to help one-up you later, trust no one, not even your family, actually especially don't trust your family.

>In order to suppress her powers as a demon, Lapis’ parents had taken her limbs and eyes, so currently they were prosthetics.
Reminder for anyone that forgot.

nice, 2 chapters in a day and he added all the illustrations

>“Baths?”
>Loren knew of baths.
>It was the name of a facility where hot water was put inside a large tub and people would go inside it, but Loren had never experienced it.
There you have it, Loren is a fucking caveman.

I wonder if they're ever going to make an anime of it, the PV was pretty nice

youtube.com/watch?v=qurOx6NFNOM

Shame their other story, the chink front mission one got dropped

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God I wish I could sniff Loren's musk after a hard day of guild questing.

>“Huh? Something…seems wrong.”
>"Loren already saw what she was pointing out.
JUST

Luck is Loren's dump stat.

it has to be in the negatives at this point

1. Male isekais are over saturated and boring. Isekais in general are power fantasies and male ones are usually just power->money->sexslaveharem. Every time.
2. Female MC doesn't mean it's not interesting.
3. Some aren't as geared towards women as you might expect.
4. There are humans with xx chromes on 4c. Hard to believe, but it's possible.
5. 4C is full of fags and degenerates. Quite a number who want to be lolis or girls anyways --

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>all these ass blasted faggots upset at my JEWai-FU
I like the fact that she's a kike merchant.
Also that her original background was in biz/tax.

Keep saltin poorfags.

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That's not the one that's basically otome Youjo Senki with the PUA salaryman, is it?

Thiefbro is a lucky guy.

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Feels bad man.

Ow, the edge.

School Shooter-chan and Maria the Fucker are outright villains.

>getting carried by copper ranks
shamefur dispray

To be fair Loren and Lapis can crush people bare-handed.

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Turns our there was a reason why the other two girls in Klaus' schoolgirl team didn't have eyes.

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When do they fuck?

>chad loren scaring schoolgirls into wetting themselves

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The problem is Lapis doesn't get that keeping Loren around with debt is counter-productive as the guy doesn't want to owe her anything before attempting stuff.

By the time he meets her parents it doesn't bother him AS much anymore, they tell him to marry Lapis to clear his debt(they tease her about it too). By that point they've been through so much shit together she'd willingly toss the debt if it meant he'd stay by her side

The entire concept of MUH CULTIVATION comes from chink alchemy, which is about making pills, training the body and eating toxic metals.

Also making women cum without cumming yourself, so you can absorb their qi-rich love nectar through your dick.

I want the skills to lay the drills

That sounds kinda based.

>where they're fucking, they won't need eyes to see

Modern medicine
Peace
Computers

>Magic disease
>Too damn peaceful it's boring and nobody interact with each other
>No electricity, OS, software, internet or spareparts.

There's no need for him to feel bad. If I were pressed right now, i'd probably just ask for a quick no afterlife death.

I wish Loren didn't actually have his berserk mode though, would be nice to have a completely mundane MC for once who doesn't have any special abilities other than being an old hand at fighting and physically strong as fuck.

Cultivation is already defying the heavens.
You'll never reach the peak if you can't even handle these punks along the way. There are actual gods to kill after that.

How do you sudoku by truck? It seems to be quite hard to try and jump from a bridge onto a highway while a truck is coming, if you do it too early they'll just try to evade you and isekai themself instead.

Truck shaped bullets.

set the death flag for yourself

I'm not from NA though, maybe I should try to choke on truck shaped cereal.

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Is "The Magic in this Other World is Too Far Behind!" any good?
JNC has all the volumes up for members for the month, and I'm already subscribed, so I thought about reading what's up so far, but I didn't really like that bit of the WN that I read before.

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Skip volume 1 and start from volume 2, if you don't like volume 2 drop it.

One of my favorite isekais right now.
Pacing is good, characters are cool, and the world is interesting.
Best bro is Enaru btw.

If only I knew what ln/manga those girls are from

If only you knew how to use Google or NovelUpdates.

Volume 9 fucking never,

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It hurts so much.

I want to buy an elf slave, feed her lots of juicy and sweet fruits and then bathe in her warm, golden nectar while she stands above me in the bath.

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Saved. Still can't believe that one of my spur-of-the-moment posts created a trend like this. Still need a good gook version though.

>playing retarded moeblob otomoe
>brainlet with no highlights

>playing happy merchant daughteru
>woke brain with synapses

>playing master eugnics keikaku grandma
>omniscient mind transcending time-space

Real chess master is dowager grandma.

Honestly, you don't even need that.
Jahyanon keeps track of everything on the list, so you can just look up the mino link.

For once, I'd like for the MC to take over an actual bad villainess and work to rehabilitate her reputation, and for the heroine character to not be secretly evil and just be a naive romantic with no idea of what she may have just caused by being a nobody heir to a bumfuck baronetcy who ended up engaged to the crown prince.

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Why does this chart list some meme names instead of the title of the LN/manga? It's somewhat useless for anything else other than circlejerking
Not that I care, just pointing it out

It's one of my favorites but it doesn't get talked about much in these threads.But yeah volume 1 is kinda the setup volume, just read the manga first and then continue with volume 2.

It's weird that it hasn't even been serialized in Japan, all chapters for volume 9 have been out on the WN for months now.

>I'd like for the MC to take over an actual bad villainess and work to rehabilitate her reputation
You might like those then.
novelupdates.com/series/light-beyond-ln/
novelupdates.com/series/aku-no-joou-no-kiseki/
novelupdates.com/series/her-royal-highness-seems-to-be-angry/

I'll take a look, but I really do want the classic otome isekai setup, except the villainess really was just a piece of shit and not just misunderstood or slandered by the sly heroine.

>Villainess not acting evil
>HURR DURR DOORMAT

>Villainess acting evil
>HURR DURR EDGY

Which is it then?

The middle ground.