>82% (or US$2.46 billion) came from in Japan. 12% (US$360 million) came from iOS users in China, while 3% (US$90 million) came from the United States
>The figure is equivalent to a PlayStation 4 title selling 50 million copies at $60. Japanese gaming site Kultur puts this into perspective: Fate/Grand Order has earned more in four years than the Metal Gear series earned in its entire 32-year history. It took the Maple Story MMORPG 15 years to earn the same amount. FGO is also expected to overtake the Legend of Zelda series, which has currently grossed US$3.2 billion
What do they do with all that money? Do they at least make new games/anime like Cygames?
Ayden Walker
It's incredible that the identity of the brain behind such a massive series is still such a mystery We know Takeuchi's real name but Nasu is still a ocmplete mystery
This makes me want to make my own mobile gacha game with anime tiddies. Even if it was only 0.1 percent as successful due to not being attached to some big franchise I'd still be set for life.
Austin Ramirez
How can other companies even compete
Isaiah Hernandez
Point was you don't need to spend money to enjoy it. If you hate it to begin with, what's there to be impressed by?
Gabriel Evans
I'll start worrying when F/GO overtakes Mario and Pokémon.
Colton Rivera
That's cool but where's the good anime??
Lucas Allen
Cygays have a soul somewhere in their greed-encrusted hearts,not so for the FGO crew.
Parker Reed
This entire thread needs to go to Yea Forums.
>If you hate it to begin with, what's there to be impressed by? I'd be impressed if they broke free of the gameplay loop and stopped playing.
Hunter Cook
Cygames is made from old Squeenix staff so they kinda know how to handle money for projects.
TM still have a small circle mentality.
Jose Gonzalez
Does making money off of gambling warrant comparison to legitimate video games.
Of course a slot machine makes money.
Jackson Baker
>triple-a games are crashing >mobage are absolute hits right now What the hell is happening right now?
Caleb Torres
They're making money the same way casinos always have. Hopefully more countries make gacha and loot boxes illegal.
Thomas Wilson
At least we got the porn from it.
Jonathan Cox
All the Tsuki cucks, Mahayo brainlets, and Extra/Fate spinoff fags are absolutely seething right now.
Cameron Roberts
>Extra/Fate spinoff fags
Why they would care if servants are on FGO anyway? Only few are missing from LNs that people barely care.
Thomas Cook
>mfw gifted cousin a google play card for christmas so he can do the guaranteed gacha >he got 3 5 star servants
Gachafags are the same type of brainlets that will sperg out over "muh EA DLC and microtransactions!!1!1 REeeeeeee!" yet will spend their weekly wages on a chance to win the likeness of a waifu
Brayden Myers
It's really a shit game. For a franchise prized for its worldbuilding the singularities are awful grindfests with no story. Even the highly praised ones like Camelot start with literal days worth of grinding down Sphinxes. Rome isn't a bad start, Rome is the standard for this shit game.
>Slots machines and poker bad. Pachinko and gatcha good. Japan has such a hypocritical attitude towards gambling,
Daniel Richardson
Capitalism
Longer working hours, so the games wageslaves can play are on portable devices.
Oliver Nelson
The real reason is a broad shift in the market. People who grew up playing non-arcade games and are willing and able to spend on vidya have increasingly higher amounts of disposable income with less and less time to actually play games; this is the basic marketing principle for mobage, and it's extremely effective. Something that you can play on a train, bus, or taking a shit in the office is going to make more money than a fully fleshed out console game for a long time unless there's some unexpected drastic shift.
Joshua Ward
Because they're the people who are salty over the fact that a gacha game has more regard over their pseudo intellectual garbage on the moon, fake grail wars, Megaman.EXE version of Fate, and a boring mage who is only good for solving mysteries with other boring mages.
Kevin Walker
They don't exactly...? Gacha is definitely a problem, but it may be that politicians haven't caught up to it yet. Patchinko exists by skirting the actual rules established to abolish gambling, but if I recall correctly there are politicians who want to shut that shit down. Possibly because pachinko parlors are loud, awful, stinky, and absolutely enticing to whales.
Samuel Mitchell
Pretty much this.
I fell for the "Get a career" meme. I'm out of the house over 10+ hours a day. Only games i have time for now are mobile games. I'll probably bring my Switch to the office when RF4 comes out
Anyway, shit sucks when you have no time to do anything but play mobile games, shitpost on Yea Forums, and watch animu.
Bentley Reed
You can't really call it gambling if you never had a chance to win money
Anthony Walker
Oh shit I forgot about that. Anyone got the tweet?
Wyatt Moore
Why they would care? It don't really affect the works and extra was fucking irrelevant before FGO, if anything, FGO exists due Extra.
Xavier Jackson
Legally it's not gambling because money isn't won but it caters to the same parts of your mind that gambling does using the same tricks. A slot machine is still a slot machine even if instead of spitting out money it spits out anime girls.
This is part of the reason why I don't really care if people spend shittons of their money on gachashit because most of the time the kind of person who would spend thousands of dollars on this would end up losing that money on something else regardless of whether or not gacha exists in the first place. They'd lose it on stock markets, casinos or whatever the F2P game of the month is anyways so why bother caring.
Angel Nelson
Based and gachapilled. Yea Forums shitters need not apply
Liam Phillips
The only hope for games are portable device size batteries that can hold much more power. They can even call that batteries Vergil.
And sleep is considered anti-capitalistic.
Ayden Barnes
>3B dollars >game still feels extremely cheap (see Jack's animations) >NA is still a joke
Good, but not enough. Fate/Grand Order can easily reach $10 billion. Africa, South America, Australia...all of them are full of sad little whales who would love to give Fate/Grand Order the money it rightfully deserves.
Every person, once born, should be obligated to give money to Fate/Grand Order. God Bless this fucking franchise and all the porn it fucking provides, contrarians all forever seething.
Oliver Morales
The game making as much money as it is actually gives them less incentive to improve because why bother putting in the effort in when you end up printing cash no matter what?
Hudson Carter
Its hilarious that the best stories Nasu wrote were in FGO. Even the AYY LMAO material isn't that bad if you ignore the crypters.
Caleb Bailey
>fate will surpass Zelda in little time
best timeline
Alexander Russell
FGO has largest group of followers in twitter among all nip franchises. Takeuchi is truly a God.
Daniel Rogers
there is been at least 1 fate anime every year in the last 5 years
Henry Reed
If I had to point out a differenc, it's that the playerbase of gacha games includes a lot of people who would have probably never been exposed to a gambling-like activity otherwise.
Jaxon Hill
mario is not really a problem, pokemon on the other hand is probably impossible because merch and being targeted to children
James Brown
AAA games are trying to be mobage while still being $60
Cooper Moore
But only one of them had something to do with FGO.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Heavens Feel isn't fate. It's Tsukihime pretending to be fate.
Levi Sullivan
>First Order >Moonlight Lostroom >Himuro no Tenchi >Learn with FGO >two Camelot movies >Babylonia anime Meanwhile only one Cygames anime had anything to do with GBF.
Aaron Wood
>there will never, ever be another type moon or fate game/vn/anything ever (except some crappy musou games that are themselves lazy cash-ins) because whales are too easy and too profitable to pander to >other game franchises will create gacha because they too want record-breaking profits for the small price and minimal effort of making jpegs >VN/manga/LN franchises will realize they can do the same >then western IPs too >the future is nothing except gacha
>make random chink mobage >if it is a success, keep adding content and milk the fanbase until it dies >if not, just pull the plug and cut your losses It's literally the safest way to get money. Making a full game or VN is way more risky since there is no way to guarantee it won't flop.
Carter Miller
The intersection of psychology and capitalism is a jpg of your waifu.
Anthony Stewart
As bad as FGO is its nowhere near as shit as Zelda to be fair
Cameron Cruz
Isn't Pokemon the single most profitable media of all times? As profitable as FGO is, it can't begin to compare.
John Sanders
>putting in effort when gatchatards will give you money
>Raking in billions more dollars by way of the idiots who were indoctrinated into thinking that Sakura is a good character In my case, i'm one of the very few with good taste so all i've been doing is saving money thanks to the lackluster gacha this year.
Blake Barnes
Underrated words of insight.
Matthew Ramirez
Just like the government. Only start to act when shit hits the fan.
Jackson Barnes
Good, maybe that way Pokémon and Final Fantasy will step up their game and make better content.
Because Nasu keep wanking the chain of franchise and don't know jackshit about proper game development, as result they just hire some incompetent fuck and the whole thing must bend over his wishes.
>The Vita is dead Only to faggots who exclusively play western AAA games. There are several Japanese visual novels being released on the Vita in NA and EU this year.
The most surprising thing about this is that Maple Story earned that much money
Cooper Taylor
You know that first extra sold really bad right?
Easton Nelson
FF doesn't need to do anything, XIV makes more than enough money to make up for other mainline titles flopping at this point and Yoshi-P is all but confirmed to be in charge of XVI
Thomas Collins
But that's an incredibly retarded business decision, you have to use money to make more money, not only act when the revenue stream dries.
Andrew Young
user they straight up stopped making cartridges
Levi Cruz
Translating CCC would be a waste of whatever resources is required to do it.
Blake Thompson
Consoles*
Benjamin Parker
% (or US$2.46 billion) came from in Japan. 12% (US$360 million) came from iOS users in China, while 3% (US$90 million) came from the United States
So basically it's carried by whales in Japan and fails everywhere else?
Andrew Ross
they're making their own yakuza organization
Asher Ortiz
I doubt that requires more than a day of work by a single person.
Liam Mitchell
So what? My point is that Vita isn't dead and we have things like the Utawarerumono remake incoming and Fata morgana no Yakata.
It doesn't matter. Sony hated the Vita from the moment it was released but it won't stop the developers.
>(or US$2.46 billion) came from in Japan I thought low wage jobs was the norm there, guess I was wrong, everyone is fucking loaded.
Daniel Gomez
each servant takes ~6 months of work from drafting, writing, animation, voicework, etc.
Parker Jackson
The NA server is managed extremely poorly and manages to fuck up basically everything, they constantly lie to the playerbase as well. >We won't censor anything >Censor's a characters SKINCOLOR because it would've been racist if he were black somehow. It's a surprise people spend on it at all.
Nolan Gonzalez
the future
considering MS is working on DNA storage data + streaming video games.... i should invest on a good rope.
Cooper Sullivan
Full anime adaptation when? They should have the money to fund the entire thing on their own.
Lincoln Brown
>91 unregistered spirit origins Yikes. So they're too stupid to follow a years old release schedule?
Nolan Nelson
To be honest they made him super black. Even if he got super mana poisoning or whatever it wouldn't turn him african.
Benjamin Clark
treat women like jeff bezos treats paying taxes and his workers
Jordan Parker
In the west everybody uses that equivalent disposable income on drugs and alcohol
Carson Edwards
I'm not the one spending billions and losing my house to the Yakuza gachanigger. How can anyone take Fate seriously when the entire direction of the story is based on how many waifus and husbandos they can shit out for money in garbage fanfiction tier events where they go to Emiya's Six Flags Adventure. Let's not also mention the insane amount of shit they rewrite to justify having servants from other series that can never come back or "come to this world" so autists can have them in their party.
Easton Flores
Those Yakuza must be raking in that cash.
Oliver Hill
Technically, some autist whales from outside JP already began creating accounts way before their proper servers got released and already had them properly set-up so what's even the point at going back to zero.
Noah Campbell
>Kajita next asks if it is true that it takes half a year to make a single servant, and Nasu says that it does take half a year to complete a single servant. The writer in charge takes 1-2 weeks to create the setting info, and the illustrator takes 1-2 months to handle the art. Once the illustrations are completed the action storyboards are created and sent to Delight Works, and creating the animation takes 4-5 months. Voice acting is recording in the meantime. This takes roughly half a year altogether. frontlinejp.net/2019/01/02/fate-grand-order-interview-nasu-kinoko-discusses-the-end-of-fgo-what-comes-after-part-1/
To compare, Arcsys takes 3-4 months to sprite someone and KOF XIII took 5 months to do something from scratch. They are really incompetent, even worse because sprites are animated with tweening instead of proper animation.
>So they're too stupid to follow a years old release schedule? Not him, but we are 2 years behind and they say it is to make it a "true japanese experience" despite us already knowing all the upcoming events and servants, but they remove every single reward that the nip server got and if we question it on social media they say "don't be greedy and entitled". I've never seen game being managed this poorly before.
This one has the story and characters we care about.
There's a Babylon anime and Camelot movie in the works. And FGO Arcade, I guess. And a couple of stage plays. And some misc stuff like escape rooms, Amiibo clones, pencil games.
No, he shouldn't be able to censor all actual discussion about the game here, so post freely.
Ryan Turner
>He don't know about scatfag borrowing money from Yakuza.
He didn't got her to boot. He is alive before you ask.
Logan Cruz
>only 91 USOs There are nip whales on twitter with 200+
Chase Gray
NA would probably be better, but it is absolutely incompetently run. Many of the important little lessons that JP learned to gain new players and continuously grow aren't in NA aren't in NA yet. They never communicate with their fanbase, which is really unlike most mobages. They routinely delay announcements until conventions that most people can't go to. Last year the anniversary was delayed so that they could have an event at a convention and not hand out the 30 quartz that JP got. They're constantly fucking with rewards, despite the fact that anyone with an internet connection can see what JP got. And now they have gone back on their promise of not censoring content. The only thing that keeps NA from being the absolute worst FGO server is that the people in charge weren't dumb enough to give out beta test accounts to their friends that come loaded with SSRs. >So they're too stupid to follow a years old release schedule yes
Matthew Wright
>Believing Nasus lies
Grayson Hernandez
>look at all these sequels from previously established franchises that moved copies Console gaming is a walking corpse at this point. The opportunity cost compared to mobile isn't worth it any more. PC gaming will probably survive but most major developers are going to have to change their models to appeal to basement dwellers or go full mobage. On the plus side there's going to be less god awful political shit in games once the devs who think agenda is more important than profit go bankrupt.
Less than a billion until /mlp/ is destroyed forever, come on Nasu. Fate can crash and burn for all I care but not until those dumb horses are beaten.
Leo Myers
Does he still have his fingers
Michael Clark
Old pic tho.
Mobile is a bubble, there is no guarantee that you going make fuckload of money right off the bat and keep doing this for years. Ton of mobile games go up and down every day.
A proper game helps to establish the IP and can be a doable source of income if done right.
Luis Long
>The only thing that keeps NA from being the absolute worst FGO server is that the people in charge weren't dumb enough to give out beta test accounts to their friends that come loaded with SSRs What about lying to their playerbase about not reducing the SSR rate like worst Korea?
Isaac Richardson
$450 million is still a shitload of money, user.
Oliver Ramirez
>Ton of mobile games go up and down every day How much money do you think went into FGO? How much money do you think went into No Man's Buy? When financial success isn't statistically improved by investing more into a game, why the fuck would you do it? Sure, there are some people who actually know how to make good games in a traditional format, but the market for consoles is going to follow in the Switch's footsteps or die trying.
Jason Torres
I have spent my paychecks playing FGO....as long the game supplies me with waifus....i will support this game....hehe
Angel James
Just be a luckfag and you never need to buy quartz. Not that you need to buy any if you aren't anyway
Benjamin Morales
>Every game must have gorillions of money into it.
A lot of smaller devs or even indies are doing well and dandy.
FGO is also the most talked about game on twitter, it even beat Fortnite.
Asher Myers
I think saying that is a bit dramatic. It's not like every single game is only focused on trying to make money. There are still plenty of devs who make games because they love making games. Take VNs for example, they were fucking everywhere last decade, with several anime adaptation for them. And even now, where making a VN is really stupid (from a financial point of view) compared to making a cheap mobage, there are still several companies making them.
>How much money do you think went into FGO? Not him, but you realize FGO’s success is largely tied to the fact it was a multimedia series with a massive fanatical base way before the mobage, right? It’s a gigantic outlier even among other mobage from established IPs and only doomposters and retards use it as a barometer for the success of the mobile game community,
Cameron Butler
I never said they weren't, but they're realistically not going to affect the overall trend, since publishers are always going to chase bigger fish.
Dominic Cooper
Most Fortnitekiddies are on instagram not twitter.
Leo Sanders
Do you actually believe anything you wrote?
Logan Ramirez
Everything you said is completely false. Literally everything.
Zachary Butler
>a multimedia series with a massive fanatical base way before the mobage Sure, but it's pretty fucking easy to make a low-risk shot in the dark for literally any multimedia franchise in the hopes of getting a fuck ton of mobile microtransaction bucks. It's not like FEH is failing.
Ryan Baker
TM did a poll and most people that play FGO just know the IP because some adaptation. The game boomed quite a lot due UFO anime, which why it got a entire year of reruns on that period.
Kayden Watson
I was talking about the gif.
Ayden Lewis
Ironically, light just went bankrupt because their Dies Irae mobage got stuck in development hell.
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-04-01/dies-irae-game-company-light-greenwood-parent-company-dissolves/.145260 >Greenwood elaborated on the state of development for the Dies irae Pantheon smartphone/SNS game, and how it led to the company's dissolution. Light began development on the game in 2016, but the company realized that it would not able to finish development on the game alone. Light began developing the game jointly with Super Appli in 2017, but due to delays on development by Super Appli, the co-development ended in early 2018. Light and Greenwood signed a contract with Session in spring 2018 to co-develop the game, but Session declared bankruptcy in fall 2018 for a separate reason. Light and Greenwood attempted to find a new co-developer for a third time, but stated that the company had "reached its limit." >Dies irae Pantheon's development is canceled, but the game still has plans and production materials. The staff attached to the project still want to finish the game, and are willing to develop the title elsewhere. The announcement noted that it is accepting proposals from other companies to this end, but did not announce concrete plans to continue development on the game.
That looks like Okita's art style. But why can't I get any results through any of my reverse searches?
Jordan Torres
Most higher than shit quality games make their money back. They make them because they make money.
Adam Sullivan
I don't give a shit as long as they keep pumping out all those sexy girl designs, both loli and adult. Holy fuck I'm glad they're pretty much back to being a porn game now.
Anthony Morris
Do you seriously believe that the only reason that people make games is for the money?
If it's a company, yes. They stop when money stops.
Brayden Murphy
Based and I didn't spend much in all these years of playing this trash I enjoy.
Robert James
I bet you haven't even played Extra
Cameron Stewart
t. virgin
Luis Bailey
I won't touch Grand Order trash, but how is the latest musou game?
Aiden Nguyen
Sakura servants are trash anyway.
Cooper Miller
Twice was the only decent waifu in the entire game.
Samuel Sanders
Trash.
Carson Edwards
>plenty of female designs with many variants that have different levels of clothing >then special event versions of a few wearing swimsuits or such Prudish is the last thing Fate ever has a chance of becoming. If you think things have gotten bad then it's a problem with your eyes and opinions alone.
Mason Scott
better than the first
Andrew Morgan
Too late, already bought it. Seems fun so far.
Anthony Ward
Pretty bad, like all games in the Extra series.
Easton Young
Better gameplay than the last one but still a bit sub-par for musou standards. It's also much, much shorter than the previous entry.
Sebastian Martinez
Damned with faint praise.
Brayden Smith
>female servants means it's a porn game now Man, you would be really surprised if you played Extra.
Jace Ross
I feel sorry for you user, I unfortunately got mine for free.
Zachary Taylor
my friend blew 10k on FGO...
Xavier Adams
Why VA would take so much time, the lines are very simple and anyone could do it in one day or week.
Christopher Bell
EOP retards still think that eroge = nukige. It's as dumb as considering Game of Thrones a porno just because it has uncensored nipples. F/SN wasn't a sexual fap game, it was a long SoL/chuunige with some minor sexual scenes.
You could use a tenth of that to build a gaming PC you will never use because you're too busy working yourself into an early grave.
Jackson Gutierrez
>Voice acting is recording in the meantime
Owen Martin
I'm talking about Kiara.
>Erhmahgad she have sightly lewd outfit it's a porn gaem now.
Ton of other mobages have way less prudish outfits and nobody bats an eye, then you have gook mobages which just shove lewd in your face, but even then none of servants actually go around to suck your dick much less have Hscenes.
Speaking of nukige. Any good ones come out recently?
Nathaniel Myers
>too busy working yourself into an early grave On the bright side the more you overwork the sooner it ends.
Asher Lopez
No idea. I only play nakige and chuunige.
Isaiah Myers
It's actually so good ngl
Asher Barnes
Kiara is Sakura. Lets not beat around the fucking bush.
Kayden Richardson
Yup, looks like the problem's on you after. I'll stay here enjoying the only thing to gain from this series (the erotic doujin works and fanart) which are only possible thanks to the amount of erotic designs it has and its immense popularity (something the tons of other mobage you mentioned usually lack), you can feel free to continue writing like a retard for all I care. In case my original post offends you that much by calling FGO a "porn" game, let me change it to a "porn-inspiring" game.
Nathan Cook
Sprite shouldn't take that much either.
Zachary Miller
Even better, they have a whole team to do sprites.
Meanwhile shit like capcom or other companies handled sprites with like 5 animators at best.
