Why is Japanese animation and storytelling so weird?

The Japanese seem completely unconstrained in their expression. What is it about Japanese culture that allows for such wild explorations of ideas?

Even Miyazaki films, which many Japanese grew up on and feel nostalgic for, are completely bizarre by western standards, and contain imagery that just wouldn't fly in movie theaters in the US, especially today, and they would have to be rated R or worse. They're only 'okay' here because they fall under the 'foreign films' category, so everyone knows they're in for something weird and outlandish. But can you imagine a movie with the same story, and containing the same imagery, but animated by Pixar? Like all that unraveling chaos toward the end of Miyazaki films... it's nothing like in western movies, which too often try to be "cool" and color-balanced and visually attractive, to the detriment of genuine expression.

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>amerimutt trying to think
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they probably don't give a fuck since irl they are act properly and work hard
they know fiction is fiction and nothing more

Japanese folklore, and they also saw firsthand the effects of a nuclear bomb. Among other reasons.

Different cultural background and aesthetic values

This has to be a big part of it, I wish we could just treat fiction as fiction and not use it for propaganda

>Japanese films are totally bizarre by Western standards
>Western films are totally bizarre by Japanese standards
Whoa. Mind=blown

Can anyone recommend a good source on Japanese history and culture?

>bizarre and weird
Come on, it's merely not standardized hollywood garbage. Are you trying to cash in on murrikan stereotypes or something?

Their theory of what makes entertainment interesting is far more developed than ours thanks to their own ingenuity and the millennia of Chinese genius they've been building on top of.

you're lookin at it baby

textbook.

>ellipses
you are what's wrong with Yea Forums

Literally what's wrong with it? It's part of the English punctuation

I think it about the mindset. animation is one form of storytelling but the west tend to treat live action as more serious or higher form of storytelling because in the west people associate animation or cartoon in general with children. they see it as media aim for children. however in Japan anime and manga are seen as media aim for many groups of people not only children.

Go away we're not writing your college english report for you.

>why is the mental universe of insulars with +2000 years of history and culture on the other side of the planet so different from that of the west?
Gee, I wonder.

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We used to just fine, and can again if people would stop feeding the bullshit.

>Even Miyazaki films, which many Japanese grew up on and feel nostalgic for, are completely bizarre by western standards
Like what? They aren't any more bizarre than old Disney films.

Sounds like your idea of Western filmmaking is constrained to America and the Americanised elements of the UK. Examples included Holy Motors, anything by Ben Wheatley, The Act Of Killing (director was Dutch), Revolver, anything by Von Trier... there's a whole spectrum of filmmaking out there that isn't tame Hollywood garbage, you just have to lool for it. Different mediums and schools of filmmaking have different virtues.

Yeah no. The way I see it, this has literally never happened. Every story has a message. Even someone who doesn't mean to convey a message will convey one, whether it is that of their very own mediocrity (exposed clear as day through lame self insert fanfictions), or a nod to absurdism. And both are still messages.

People like you should be shot.

I would still be smarter than you even if someone did.

Pretty much this. OP's either underage or a dilettante.

Japan has been geographically at the terminus point for cultural exchange for thousands of years. All that shit about isolationism that they did basically amounts to nothing when all the stuff obviously kept pouring in anyway. When the west was colonized it became the new terminus to replace europe but Japan had been doing it for ages at that point.

So the west is always one step behind japan in terms of the growing pains of a densely populated industrialized society.

Good artists are almost always people who grew up in a state of suffering or neglect. The isolation of an individual person in japanese society is much greater than it is here, if you cannot express yourself it builds up inside until you burst at the seams.

The nukes were fake though, the mass firebombing was real.
Anime is officially 101 years old too, the west has nothing to do with creating anime.

Watch more non-American movies before asking such ignorant questions.

aaayyyyyy
Not really.

Absence of an abrahamic dogmas (e.g:Christianity) lobotomizing the nation.

>Even Miyazaki films, which many Japanese grew up on and feel nostalgic for, are completely bizarre by western standards
What the fuck is this post?

Get out of here with this 2deep4u bullshit. Never every story needs or has a message. Sometimes, someone just thinks it'd be entertaining.

well that's why we watch them