When will shonen authors learn that "I want to become a champion/hero" isn't a sufficient or interesting MC motivation?

at least black clover is a bit better in the sense that the mc wants to overcome the idea that peasants suck

What's a sufficient or interesting MC motivation then?

Watch mob

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How about Pokemon Masuta?

when literal teenagers and pre-teens stop buying their manga. They're reaching their target audience and making bank.

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why need? if kakashi was the mc he would just do his job without wanting to become best anything and theres nothing wrong with that

>at least black clover is a bit better
Ha

It's important to understand why this happens. Historically, heroes don't need an interesting motivation. In many cases, they are entirely reactionary.
>I wanna slay the dragon that kidnapped the princess
>I wanna defeat the villain and save my town
But those don't lend themselves as well to stories that can go on forever outside of a specific arc. So they need one that, while somewhat concrete, can be put off indefinitely.
>I wanna be the guy
>I wanna get stronger
The Western equivalents are a bit more extreme, since they're abstract to the point of impossibility.
>I wanna protect my city/country/universe
>I wanna do good
But that's because they have to go on forever, outliving generations of authors.
tl;dr the stories that can be told, and therefore the leads of those stories, are constrained by the amount of time they need to fill.

Authors should make shorter stories with interesting premises rather than having a single cast of characters going on forever. This is something I have to praise Araki for since JoJo feels less dreadful to read compared to your average long-running manga because of the fact that the story is divided in many different parts with different feels each, so it never feels stale and gives Araki room to do whatever he wants.

Ever since Sorachi

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TPBP

Just skip the second half of season 2

It works for asta because he's an actual character and is in a good show.
Doesn't work for deku because he used to be in a good show until he and it went to shit.
Stop comparing the two because Black Clover has been riding high after a rough opener and is the best new shounen to come out of SJ since Beezlebub

He wants to put peasants on equal footing with nobles across society, not just Naruto-tier ”prove everyone wrong!”
His ideal is more classical than regulat shounenshit goals, even if its similar.

>not just Naruto-tier ”prove everyone wrong!”
I think that's a perfectly fine motivation for a character. That's not the problem with Naruto.

>It works for asta because he's an actual character and is in a good show.
Imagine being this delusional

>mc wants to overcome the idea that peasants suck
Ofc they don’t suck if you give them an anti magic sword

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I WANT AN EDGY MC
>muh seinenshit is for adults

the other black bull peasants would have been cooler
someone whos worked hard but not got overpowering techniques
someone like yami would have been nice, not super naturally gifted but just worked hard and gained muscles

why can't the hero just aspire to be a hero though? needing to have some tragic backstory isn't that interesting either most of the time

Asta at least wants to end social inequality

Yet everything works out in the end because he has fuck you power. TRASH PSYCHO 100

>hxh? of course, togashi has written some of the most compelling, mature and intelligent stories in all manga. his approach to the human condition and willingness to experiment with new genres and ideas throughout must be commended
>one piece? possibly one of the most richly detailed, mysterious and living worlds in all fiction. oda's long term story telling is simply unrivalled, the way he creates long term build ups and payoffs is nothing short of astounding!
>black clover? absolutely. tabata's unique blend of european sword and sorcery, medieval and japanese influences augmented with impeccable plotting, socio-economic themes and subversively compelling female characters make it a blast to read.

>boku no hero? you mean that series with no stakes, abyssmal writing and no meaningful plot progression in years? no thanks, i'm sure my kids will enjoy it though.

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