So, what was it about?.
The general feel I got from it was that they all killed themselves and were purging their sins before reaching heaven.
Also, the tsundere from the factory was best girl.
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Gabriel Martin
Only Reki killed herself in her former life. It's easy to think like you're thinking but if they all killed themselves all of them would have been born sin-bound. Reki was the only one born sin-bound and Rakka became sin-bound later in the series. I don't know why she became sin-bound though. I had someone tell me it was because of how she felt about Kuu leaving but then what was the whole thing with the crow about?
Christopher Bennett
Rakka died from falling into a well, right?. If so, why's she in the purgatory with Reki?. Why are the rest of them there as well?.
Austin Myers
Rakka supposedly hurt someone, either physically or emotionally, when she was alive. That's what the crow was and for some reason the sin-bound effect was delayed until a while after she got to Old Home. I imagine they all died in specific ways with regrets. The children might have died in violent ways or something. But every Haibane dying from suicide doesn't make much sense because they would all have been born sin-bound like Reki, which isn't the case.
Nathan Moore
When she falls in the well you can hear a memory of her climbing up a stairwell and opening a door. She jumped off a roof and in the process hurt somebody. How can people think she didn't kill herself when she says shit like "I thought i was all alone and nobody cared"? When the only other person sinbound is pretty much explicitly shown killing herself?
Lucas Martin
The other sin-bound person was also born sin-bound. I just don't buy it with Rakka because she became sin-bound while in the city instead of being born that way. But at the same time why would it have been delayed if it was because she regretted what she did to the crow? Maybe it has something to do with her remembering. At least partially. But Reki didn't know anything when she was born and was still born sin-bound. I see what you're saying and it makes sense to some extent, it's just too inconsistent for me to believe it anymore.
Daniel Harris
I thought the kids were in there because they died before being able to understand God. Kinda like Dante's purgatory, which was filled with people who died before Christ.
What was the deal with the town's inhabitants that weren't Haibane?. Also, the Haibane Renmei were sin-bound Haibane that couldn't reach heaven, right?
I thought the ravens were the people who loved her and were hurt by her suicide trying to communicate with her in search for answers
Luis Walker
>I thought the kids were in there because they died before being able to understand God. Kinda like Dante's purgatory, which was filled with people who died before Christ.
That could be too. I'm just saying that not everyone killed themselves and that I think Reki is the only one. Rakka's kind of on the edge for me since at times it seems to hint at that but for me it doesn't entirely make sense.
Lucas Hughes
Rather than suicide as the common point that ties all the Haibane, I think it's the fact that they all died young.
Basically they didn't live enough in the real world and they are not prepared for the afterlife. That's why they reincarnate in that world and they get to live there for a while until they become mature enough mentally to pass on.
Levi Reyes
Obviously it is never stated outright. If the old feelings that got them to off themselves in the first place bubbling back up is what it takes to be sinbound, then reki being born alone and left to sit in that room for who knows how long would have done it. And rakka didn't become sinbound until kuu left and she started feeling like this.
Yeah. The opening scene is the raven trying to pull her up out of her fall, her hugging it and saying "thanks, but it's useless. my heart is cold".
Carter Turner
She sure seems prone to suicide
Ethan Gray
It's been a while since I last watched it, but is it explicitly stated that Reki was sin bound from the very start? Couldn't she have gotten black wings later on, like Rakka?
Jonathan Young
>but is it explicitly stated that Reki was sin bound from the very start?
When the topic starts coming up, yeah, Reki says that when she came out of the cocoon her wings were black. At least as far as she knows. Like said, it's possible they turned black from her feelings of despair triggering some sort of remembrance of her suicide under the surface and they only developed over the several days she was alone in that room. But when she was found her wings were black.
Hudson Hughes
The thing is that in christian theology, suicide is seen as one of the worst sins a person can commit and it definitely earns you a place in hell, no negotiation possible.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that they are all kids that didn't have full capacity to comprehend the consequences of their actions
James Martinez
It's not a Christian show.
"Sin bound" is self-loathing, not a moral judgement. That's why the only person that can stop it is the sin bound person themselves, because they're the one doing it.
It should be obvious why this correlates with the probable suicides, but isn't strictly linked to it.
Jack Adams
She might have killed herself, but there is no hint for the others Haibane to have done the same other than Reki.
Levi White
>Also, the tsundere from the factory was best girl.
Based
Ryan Jenkins
Is Haibane Renmei an isekai?
Nathaniel Moore
Maybe Rakka killed herself because she lost someone close and losing Kuu made her remember her sin and Reki's was due to loneliness and being born in that closed room and the further mistreatment by the rest of the town made her remember her's
Thomas Thomas
It's not about suicide.
Hudson Green
I wouldn't say killed themselves
Reki was in terror and stuck on train tracks.
Rakka fell down a well with someone trying to catch her. Hard time believing she just said "Hey dad fuck it I quit"
Joshua Collins
John Thomas
Is heaven an isekai?
Leo Reyes
Watch it again
Kayden Jones
That Reki likely died by suicide doesn't make the show about suicide. See
Jonathan Fisher
The muslim heaven comes pretty close since you get a Harem.
Anthony Turner
>It's not a Christian show.
The imagery is pretty clear. Also, the purgatory parallel is spot on imho
Luke Stewart
Purely aesthetic because angel girls are cute. You'd also have to ignore all the other imagery that doesn't fit, like the whole town being cribbed from Murakami. It's not made by a Christian or for Christians.
Jeremiah Davis
This is evangelion all over again, isn't it?
Cameron Lewis
I can't put it into words, but this show just kinda speaks to me. Like it touches my soul. Maybe it is because I am religious and that makes it easier to understand. Or maybe because I also have huge sins in my past, that I can't do anything about.
Asher Evans
Personally I feel the ED captures the show perfectly.
Just a nice melancholy
Kayden Cruz
Most of the show's religious themes are more inspired by Buddhism. The name "Kuu" is a concept from Zen Buddhism that basically describes Kuu's state of mind on the day she goes over the wall. The riddle that helps Rakka recover from being sin-bound is basically a Zen koan, the Haibane's relationship with the townsfolk is a lot like that between Buddhist monks and the communities that support them, etc.
It's not really about adhering to any particular scripture, though. The subplot about Nemu and Hikari's made up creation myth is meant to drive home that it's about what you do with the religion you inherit, not about where it comes from or what it meant to your ancestors.
James Ross
>That's why the only person that can stop it is the sin bound person themselves, because they're the one doing it.
That doesn't make it non-Christian. Read The Great Divorce.
Jason Butler
I feel something similar, mostly in the early episodes. Like melancholy for a time and place that didn't happen.
>I also have huge sins in my past, that I can't do anything about.
story time
Andrew Wood
The creator discarded the suicide theory.
Samuel Russell
Despera will happen and I honestly think I'm going to cry once they officially announce it.
After all ABe and Konaka have to show Nakamura that the magic isn't gone and that there is still hope to have nice things in 2020+
Charles Allen
I'm not even religious, but it had the same effect on me. There's something about it that feels very universal.
>Like melancholy for a time and place that didn't happen.
Or melancholy for something that is constantly happening between the lines in our own lives, largely unseen.
Easton Carter
Let it go user
Joshua Adams
With all due respect, fuck creators giving definitive answers about their work after the fact. Once you release something, it's for the fans to interpret and make their own conclusions.
Guess what, if your work strongly misleads the audience into interpreting something you didn't mean, then you were shit at your job
Those post Kuu's disappearance episodes had me in tears
Liam Kelly
>It's not really about adhering to any particular scripture, though. The subplot about Nemu and Hikari's made up creation myth is meant to drive home that it's about what you do with the religion you inherit, not about where it comes from or what it meant to your ancestors.
Exactly
And it's a great sequence, too
Ryder King
Sora no Woto is Haibane Renmei done right.
Jack Thompson
I can't.
ABe and a producer he works with confirmed that they'll try to make it an anime again in 2019.
It will happen I know it the producer said it is basically already decided.
I also would post the source but ANN is apparently down but this is the link >animenewsnetwork.com
Jace Wood
yeah, and derida was fine
Easton Walker
>And it's a great sequence, too
Favorite episode, shame the myth didn't amount to anything in the plot but I guess that was part of their intention
Easton Sanders
alright it's up again.
Gavin Wood
Rakka was sin-bound since her birth, she couldn't remember part of her dream (the raven). Reki says that during winter the effects of the wall are stronger and that's probably the reason Rakka's wings only started getting black spots later in the series.
Isaac Barnes
Get 'em
Jaxson Cook
user, you're gonna make me cry again
Jaxson Stewart
if we go by the premise that art is comunication and not pedagogy sure, but perhaps the author's interpretation is worth a dollar more than some easily impressed user's head canon
Camden Anderson
I think it's not necessarily suicide but dying unfulfilled in some sense. the 'afterlife' is supposed to let you come to terms with your feelings/past or experience something you were missing.
but i respect and love you all peaceful haibane fans.
Justin Howard
We just have to hold out a little bit longer user, just a little bit.
Camden Young
What about the violent ones?
The Haibane and townfolk should have torn down the wall and marched on heaven! Abducting innocent souls and forcing them to cosplay as angels is a violation of the NAP! Nuke the wall race war now!
Easton Rodriguez
>story time
No user, not this time. This ain't some kind of a fun brag story. This is a huge and ugly mistake, that basically ruined my life on the inside (having to live with the guilt is terrible).
Owen Gomez
fuck off
>This is a huge and ugly mistake, that basically ruined my life on the inside
Let it out bro. This is a comfy thread and it might help you. I respect you either way
Joshua Rodriguez
Once someone described it was about the equilibrium of the human psyche, karma, coexistence and universal compassion. So, yeah, as said, it's buddhist at its core
Cameron Diaz
My buddhist theology is a little rusty, to not say it's barely there, so excuse my if I choose to make parallels to what I do know, which is christian theology. I feel the core themes are universal enough to be enjoyed regardless of your thoughts or beliefs.
Angel King
Someone linked a Christian anime site a while ago and it had a recommendation list of Christian friendly anime. One of them was Haibane Renmei though it was more about its themes than it being specifically Christian itself. It's really mellow and has themes of purgatory, sin, forgiveness, etc which work pretty universally even if you don't consider it strictly Christian. Because it does seem like its own thing that borrows from several different faiths.
Eli Jones
>Angel girls are cute
And you honestly don't need a better reason than that.
Adam Scott
Haibane Renmei is Angel Beats done right.
Sebastian Cruz
beneaththetangles. They can be pretty weird, but different strokes for different folks.
Wyatt Howard
Fluffy pretty charcoal grey feathers
Gavin Sanchez
I kind of wish the series was more known as Charcoal Feather Federation because I think it's a cool name but the name Haibane Renmei stuck more I guess.
Dominic Campbell
What was the deal with webm related?. And those wall pillars?
saved
Hunter Ortiz
HOW DOES ABE GET SO GOOD HOLY FLUFFY ANGEL WINGS!
David Perry
Abe's done a lot of drawings of angels. He must like the aesthetic.
Brody Brown
For all the shit we fling at each other sometimes, I cannot thank you guys enough for introducing me to this show. It fills a hole in my heart that I didn't even know was there.
Asher Brooks
God I just want to fluff them
Luke Robinson
Henry Gomez
>Let it out bro.
I raped a family member when I was really young.
Jonathan Parker
I thought there were more non-HR ones in Gaisokyu but I think it's only those two.
Jacob Baker
My headcanon is that the spirits of Haibane that take flight end up inside the walls, but I don't really have a theory for the pillars themselves. There's something magical about that canal though, it gave off some really ethereal vibes.
Ryan Rogers
Does Gaisokyu have any Texhnolyze art? I'm getting it in a few days.
Charles Brown
Why?
Kayden Stewart
I got introduced to it on Yea Forums of all places. It was a Lain Game thread tho
Damn, that's some rough shit.
Why did you do it?. How young?
Landon Perry
They all died with a sin - whatever that means - and their task in the town is to understand what that was before moving on.
The question of what is sin is central to the plot. There isn't some guideline for what that is, it's something that each haibane has to figure out personally. The black feathered ones are having a hard time because some cyclical way of thinking is preventing them from true self-reflection, so they need outside help to escape that state.
As others have pointed out: a show with an eastern philosophy that plays with some western concepts and imagery.
James Lewis
Cooper Evans
Yeah there's some in it. Mostly just the stuff used as ads for it like the main character on the stairs or the one girl with the mask. I think there's a few more though. I actually ordered it used a couple months ago and what I got seemed brand new so that was pretty lucky. It looks so fucking good in person. Sucks that the "scans" I downloaded of it though don't preserve the 2 page spreads and are cut up and don't join right.
Kayden Gutierrez
There's a few pieces but it doesn't look like the focus. I thought about buying some ABe artbooks recently but unfortunately I don't really have the space.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Dominic Reyes
>Adult Rakka
God she's cute, I want to marry her.
Alexander Nguyen
My waifu
Colton Gonzalez
Does anybody have any tips for taking care of artbooks? I know to keep out of sunlight and humidity, but anything else?
Hunter Harris
See, it doesn't line up right.
Jose Wright
Don't hotglue them.
Dominic Hernandez
post more
Jace Murphy
There's only one more HR image from Gaisokyu that hasn't been posted and it's another double page that won't line up. I can post stuff from doujins Abe wrote before the anime.
Asher Hall
Liam Carter
There is a manga, right?. How does it compare with the show?
Jack Cooper
It only covers the first episode or two.
Asher Sanchez
There's only 2 "volumes" iirc and it only covers 1 or 2 episodes worth of content I think. He stopped because the series got greenlit. There are another 2 or so volumes of extra stuff though.
Asher Sullivan
>extra stuff
Like what?
Lincoln King
Aaron Cox
Is this loss?
John Rodriguez
There's a short artbook with ideas and stuff before he started drawing the doujins. Then there's also a sort of comedic book of short comics. They're all on Mangadex.
Logan Foster
The last one and this one are from that artbook.
Bentley Allen
Asher Gonzalez
Who found her? I don’t remember if there were older people there.
Ethan Martinez
And then there's Ganbare Rakka-tan, a fun little fanmade sequel featuring Lain and NieA. imgur.com/a/2JJbrsl
Leo Wilson
I don't remember her name but Reki reminisces about her a bit and I think painted a portrait of her. But nobody noticed she'd been born for several days.
Blake Evans
>tfw no proper 1080p+ remaster ever
>tfw no sequel/prequel never ever
I want to become a Haibane.
Hudson James
They did as much they could with the bluray release. It was mastered at an SD resolution so all they could do was upscale it and filter it a bit. It looks blurry even for early 00s SD mastered anime though. I'd love some kind of movie. I don't know what the story would be like though so that it doesn't ruin what's there.
This link doesn't work.
Brandon Roberts
Une fille qui a des ailes grises~
Anthony Clark
>Link doesn't work
I've got the whole thing saved on my laptop at home. Assuming this thread is still up in a few hours I'll storytime it.
Julian Rivera
I always wondered why Rakka's wings looked gigantic when they first came in but then shrank.
Jason Carter
Because she was a big Haibane.
Robert Foster
Jayden Ramirez
Don't worry, I've got it too. No pass though so this might take a while
Julian Scott
Jack Hall
Don't smoke, Rakka!!
Connor Watson
a million hour in paint later
Jeremiah Johnson
Easton Ramirez
Jackson Phillips
I was young, stupid, lustful, had aspergers and completely failed to see anything wrong in my actions, until much later. So now I live with a lot of self loathing and depression. But I completely blame myself. Ironic that something I did as a stupid kid, pretty much guaranteed that I will never ever find peace in this life. God I wish I could go back in time and beat the living shit out of younger me. I hate what I did so much, but what's done is done, and now I must live with this.
Luis Morris
Leo Evans
Thanks! You're a hero.
Robert Ward
Lincoln Brown
If I take her halo off, will she die?
Joshua Garcia
Gabriel Price
Jacob Walker
Kawaii desu~
Luis Hall
Oliver Collins
Evan Ross
Isaiah Parker
Joshua Wright
saving like a motherfucker
Connor Clark
Last page
Ganbare Mayuko-chan!
Landon Ward
I like Abe crossovers.
Levi Reyes
It would be very static-y.
Liam Sanders
I just assumed it was because she was in so much pain that her wings stretched out as far as they could possibly go.
Jayden Cooper
>So, what was it about?.
Don't commit suicide.
Wyatt Peterson
That's fucked up. Still, beating yourself over it wont help you or anyone else for that matter. Consider trying to mend things and if that's not possible, at least apologize. No one is unredeamable.
Cooper Russell
Arigato kosaimasu, user-san!
I don't speak a word of japanese besides what I'm able to pick up from anime and vidya
Ryder Wilson
Never noticed the obelisk in the background even though I've seen this picture a million times.
Jacob Reed
>Consider trying to mend things and if that's not possible, at least apologize.
Yeah that can't happen, no matter how much I wanted it to happen.
David Hall
Be a man, go and apologize. It'll take a little bit of weight off your shoulders in the worst case scenario. It's the only thing you can do now
Caleb Sanchez
I want a Haibane keychain, shit would be so scrip
Jeremiah Harris
How do I apologise to someone who is unable to speak, and thus unable to. communicate? Why do you think I have gotten away with the deed for so long (or why I even did it in the first place)? Because at the time it seemed like there was no consequences to that action. I can go an apologise, but it would be like talking to a cat or something. So making up with that person is not a possibility. Other options I have are either to tell. everybody what I did and basically cause the biggest heartbreak and drama my big family has ever been through, or to keep quiet, live with the overbearing guilt and once I die, if there is a hell, I can see myself spending an eternity there.
Elijah Wood
I see that a user posted the whole thing here, pretty cool, but here's the fixed link anyway.
imgur.com/a/2JJBrsI
Honestly, this show made me depressed for a long fucking time. My first time watching made me cry, all of it just clicked with me somehow. But I try rewatching it every year and it just doesn't have the same effect that I desire. Instead of filling a hole in my heart, it made one, and although I still long for it, I gave up searching for that experience again.
I always see around these threads. My time is limited nowadays, is it actually worth a watch?
Wyatt Myers
>but it would be like talking to a cat or something
It's not my intention to sound insensitive, but do you think she (?) even has the intellectual capacity to understand what you did?. Not that your sin would be any less terrible if that was the case, quite the contrary, but you'll be able to take solace in the fact that you didn't ruin anyone's life with your actions.
What I'm trying to say is that there wasn't anything to corrupt in there. Maybe that fact can bring you a little bit of respite.
Brayden Martinez
I'm going to sleep. I leave this thread to the care of whoever reads this post. It better be up whenever I come back
Jonathan Walker
This show healed my soul for a short while.
Owen Jackson
Goodnight user.
Daniel Foster
It’s def a boy. user has avoided pronouns this whole time. But yeah user honestly confess at church or something. You don’t have to believe but someone would listen.
Sebastian Gutierrez
This is the first take on Loss that's actually made me feel a bit sad.
Anthony Rodriguez
you will never watch it for the first time ever again
Jace Martinez
True, but it was still special to me when I watched it again a year after the first time.
Christian Jenkins
>I always see around these threads. My time is limited nowadays, is it actually worth a watch?
It's a rare season where anything better comes out, so yeah, probably.
William Rogers
Good, rewatching is better.
Carson Hill
Sora no Woto is a good show and I definitely recommend watching it but don't actually go in expecting Haibane 2.0, they're different enough that you'll be disappointed. SnW has some really cool worldbuilding and episode 7 is among my favourite anime episodes of all time but a lot of the show is just cute girls doing cute things with a slight military theme.
Jaxon Wright
SnW is great, but some episodes are really lackluster.
Nathaniel Stewart
She's so beautiful.
Alexander Nelson
I just watched it for the first time around a month ago, I've still got that feeling. I'm already eager for a rewatch, though I should probably wait a year or two.
Christian Ross
That's not it. Pretty sure they aren't dead, though it seems like they died.
Comas, maybe.
Evan Thompson
>Spoiler
Same here, except I don't rewatch it. I honestly don't really get why it resonated with me so strongly back then, but I was already pretty depressed when I went in.
Brody Taylor
To me, the setting was a purgatory for people living with guilt and the show was about dealing with that guilt. Maybe they all committed suicide in their past lives, maybe they didn't. That detail doesn't really matter to me.
I really like the setting, it gives the characters a chance to experience life without the memory of what caused the guilt. It allows them a more objective introspection of the self, which hopefully would lead to self acceptance and self love. When the opposite occurs, i.e. the guilt becomes stronger, then they become sin-bound. Sin-bound people are self-destructive, they hate themselves and seek reason to feel guilty where there is none. But even for sin-bound people, lacking the memory of what caused the guilt gives them the possibility to realize their self-destructive way of thinking and to heal. And for us watchers too, not knowing why they feel guilty is beneficial. Because we see the characters for who they truly are. Our own lack of understanding of why these characters would hurt themselves so much with their destructive way of thinking, when all we see all young women who are nice and helpful to each other, it hopefully results in the realization that for us too, guilt should be overcome. That we should not define ourselves by the sins of our past, but by our deeds in the present.
Lincoln Diaz
One thing to note about the suicide theory is the young feathers -- all the little kids running around Old Home. You can't tell me all those five year olds committed suicide, that's just insane.
It's fairly obvious that all of the Haibane died before becoming Haibane, and that some of the Haibane did die of suicide - Reki for sure, and Rakka most likely - but honestly you can't even say a child as young as the young feathers even committed suicide by definition. If you don't have a concept of death, you can't say you intentionally caused your death; it's just an accident.
Angel Hernandez
I'm back. Thanks for taking care of the thread
Jayden Cruz
Luckily it was a slow night.
Dylan Ward
>If you don't have a concept of death, you can't say you intentionally caused your death
It was already discussed on this thread. My interpretation is that they died before having the chance to mature their souls enough to develop a fear for God and are doing it in purgatory.
William Robinson
>tfw no one posts in your obscure anime thread
Cameron Lee
I much prefer having the occasional small, comfy thread rather than an endless general with hundreds of IPs. I only got into the series recently but every thread I've been in has been great with all sorts of discussion over themes and theories along with art dumps, I'm always excited to see one in the catalog. It's a shame they often die early but this one's managed to survive a while, let's hope we can live for a whole day.
Nicholas Fisher
It's like wine: gets better with age.
Oliver Robinson
Haibane threads are consistently the comfiest on Yea Forums.
Michael Ortiz
>Haibane Renmei
>Obscure
what?
Michael Morgan
Ayden Scott
Maybe not here, but on the rest of the internet. Would you call it popular?
What does it say?
Jayden Kelly
>Would you call it popular?
With any medium rate anime watcher yes?
Aiden Parker
Camden Martin
>medium rate anime watcher
What's an obscure anime to you?
Wyatt Harris
Probably something that doesn't get threads on Yea Forums every couple of weeks.
Jonathan Garcia
So would you consider say Angel Beats or HSotD obscure on that condition?
Out of interest would you consider Tenshi no Tamago obscure?
Camden Allen
Raspberry Purgatory
Ryan Howard
No, stop pretending to be retarded. Haibane gets threads all the time over fifteen years later, it's absurd to call it obscure.
Aiden Moore
DON’T BULLY RAKKA
Christian Myers
Why are they wearing Lum costumes?
Noah Gomez
Rakka is for hugs.
Oliver Nguyen
Tadaima Galaxy
Joseph Perez
Post CUTE Rakkas!!
Blake Thompson
They are oni.
Andrew Cruz
Christopher Campbell
Rakka's always cute.
Jack Jones
Why were there so many windmills?
Luke Gutierrez
Electricity, I guess. I wonder how they get petrol for Reki's scooter, I can't imagine they've got an oil refinery inside the walls.
Austin Lee
In my top 100 favorite anime list that I keep just for fun, Haibane renmei takes the number 1 spot.
Brayden Hill
I think it's meant to highlight that the town is part of the material world somehow (so they have material needs like electricity and food), but it's "off the grid", isolated from the rest of the world.
It also ties into a recurring motif of cycles: the windmills, the clock, the emphasis on seasons, birth and parting. That could fit with what said about sin being a vicious cycle of thought; it could also signify reincarnation.
The Federation is allowed to communicate with the outside world, and I seem to remember that they mentioned bringing in goods from outside in one episode. There is some industrial infrastructure — the abandoned factory — so maybe the town used to produce oil.
Ryan Richardson
Is it ok to lewd the haibanes?
Charles Evans
based
fuck off
Gavin Mitchell
How can you not love this?
Cooper Sanders
Rakka obviously killed herself from falling from a high place, and the Crow it's the person who she hurt by doing so, she felt alone, she felt the only way to escape of her sadness and loneliness was dying.
I like to think the Crow was her father (or perhaps her mother), and Rakka ignored him/her and ended killing herself in a selfish way, ignoring the fact that she wasn't completely alone, and the crow obviously was trying to reach her at the time of her death, and even after her death he/she was trying to reach her, probably by even dying.
The reason why her wings weren't dark since the beginning beats me, but I'm sure she was sin-bound since the beginning.
Rekki killed herself too, that's pretty obviously, probably wasn't intending to do it at first but she clearly went to the rails because she wanted to die.
Juan Davis
youtube.com
I didn't find out about this until a year after I'd watched the series for the first time.
Lucas Walker
>The reason why her wings weren't dark since the beginning beats me, but I'm sure she was sin-bound since the beginning.
I think sin-bound refers to Rakka and Reki's spiral of self-loathing, not to the actions in their previous lives that started the spiral.
I'm partial to the interpretation gave, that Haibane lose most of their memories in order to get a fresh perspective on themselves, to aid with the self-reflection they need to do to sort out their unresolved issues and move on. They only become sin-bound when they regress into their old self-destructive state despite that fresh perspective. That's why only someone else can pull them out of it.
Jaxson Reyes
The point of the cocoons is that they're re-born. Their past lives don't matter, who they are as Haibane is the point.
Also Glie is another cocoon with its walls, and on the day of flight they're reborn.
Gavin Long
Don't sexualize the deceased, user.
Carter Turner
it's forgiveable
But I can't imagine wanting to
Cameron Taylor
WHAT HAIBANE WOULD YOU HUG?
Ryder Cox
All of them.
Brody Johnson
I wonder how many of their spiritual problems could be solved if they just did daily group hugs.
Kayden Ortiz
I feel like Nemu would give the best hugs
Nathan Wilson
If only because she would fall asleep halfway in, so you would be trapped in her arms all day/night.
Blake Smith
Hikari: Suffocating squeeze, thankfully short
Kana: Hugbump with two slaps on the back, as God intended
Nemu: Sidehug while reading together
Kuu: You cannot hug the air
Rakka: Very fluffy, more heartwarming than physical somehow
Reki: Exactly what she thinks you need
Mason Moore
Do their wings twitch when they orgasm?
Colton Parker
Good taste. For me it's number two on my overall television list, just behind Princess Tutu.
Kayden Parker
I think Rakka would make it last more than it needs to and force you to break it, hurting her feelings in the process
This thread has gone to shit
Leo Gutierrez
We need a Guide to Haibane Hugs.
Jacob Sanders
>tfw no proper 1080p+ remaster ever
this is a blessing, the art would look uglier remastered
Asher King
It's practically tradition to post that. I don't like it either but it's not unusual.
David Kelly
It's not possible to remaster it like I said earlier. The current bluray release is all they can do. And it already apparently has issues. I personally wasn't able to see them when I looked at comparisons but they annoy some people, artifacts from the filtering and stuff. I have a DVD rip downloaded though because it's smaller and just a bit less sharp but without those artifacts.
Luke Jackson
The Lain remaster looks pretty nice.
John Reed
Lain was on film. HR was digital and mastered in SD.
Justin Jones
Dylan Reed
Begone, lewd thoughts!
Ian Price
No.
Angel Morales
Josiah Roberts
I ship those two.
Jason Ramirez
Benjamin Smith
Justin Adams
Best girl.
Nathaniel Stewart
Nicholas Watson
Jaxson Sanders
Andrew Ross
Yes.
William Ward
Henry Wright
Liam Turner
Jackson Robinson
Thomas Ortiz
Third best girl.
Ethan Martinez
Lewd user, are there any other doujins besides the single one that's on Exhentai?
Owen Morales
>nhentai.net
This is the only one I know. There aren't much lewds out there. Hell, Im almost out right.
Nathaniel Sanders
Parker Roberts
Yeah, that's the same one that's on Exhentai and it's the only one I've been able to find.
Evan Stewart
Zachary Morris
Caleb Fisher
Ayden Gray
Gavin King
Aiden Smith
Brandon Reyes
Benjamin Fisher
Kayden Watson
Everything that the lewd user posted is very tame. Pic related is the lewdest Haibane pic that internet has produced. Enjoy.
Josiah Lee
I leave you guys alone for an hour and you fill my comfy thread with lewds.
I hate you
Cameron Gonzalez
I don't approve of this thread.
Andrew Sanders
Oh shit, you got me. I am so sorry.
Jaxon Reed
Wat
William Reed
INTERIOR CROCODILE ALLIGATOR
Brandon Bell
I DRIVE A CHEVROLET MOVIE THEATRE.
Jacob Foster
Needs the wings and "cff" underneath.
Logan Johnson
Ethan Gutierrez
So I told Rakka to give Reki her name she actually did it the absolute madwoman hahahahahahahahaha!
Merely a jest.
Henry Foster
Just a prank bro.
Tyler Jones
Goodnight anons, I'd love it if this thread could survive another night.
Ryder Fisher
Kayden Green
Sleep tight, don't let the ravens bite!
Jacob Cox
John Hughes
TAIHEN TAIHEN
Liam Myers
Present day, present time, HAHAHAHA!!!!
Camden Hill
>lewding the haibanes
How Yea Forums has fallen. Is nothing sacred anymore? Haibanes are the apex of comfy and fuzzy feelings. Just the mere sight of one can lift any men spirits! Just contemplating them is enough to warm your heart and fill you with joy! You should be ashamed to lust after such innocente and bealtiful creature
Nathan Morris
Rakka was probably border-line suicide, death by self-neglect or recklessness due to depression.
The other Feathers in Old Home were accidental deaths. Kana - drowning, Hikari - fire, Nemu - overdose of sleeping pills, maybe. Kuu - also an accidental fall.
The cause of death is rendered symbolically in the Cocoon Dream, stripped of its emotional weight. Kana and Rakka, for example, feel nostalgic about the smell of the river.
Parker Clark
Wrong anime.
Andrew Barnes
Necrophilia is very wrong, indeed.
Benjamin Russell
If there's anything you want, anything at all, come to me, I'll be your guardian angel.
Matthew Adams
I want a Rakkakami now.
Tyler Ramirez
>Singing Indian man with throat cancer
Lincoln Garcia
plotfags hate Haibane renmei. They need everything answered. I think the amount of mystery it has, makes it more enjoyable to watch.
Daniel Cruz
Please don't turn this comfy, gentle show into "us vs them."
Brody Campbell
What was the parallel to the "medicine"?. Depression pills, maybe?
Chase Morris
Haibane Renmei's the only anime I've watched where I felt bad about looking up lewds afterwards.
Camden Cooper
Juan Robinson
I can't listen to Free Bird without having an emotional breakdown. It's soothing yet terribly melancholic.
Parker Martin
Hopefully they do.
Luke Moore
Good morning, glad to see we made it
Aaron Lopez
This show was unique, why aren't there more like it?
Dylan Garcia
Soon™
Connor Scott
I want to believe
Colton Baker
Any day now.
Colton Walker
Poor Reki
Chase Perry
if there were more like it it wouldn't be unique,
Eli Howard
Should I kill myself to acquire a haibane gf?
Carson Scott
Didn't the director die or something?
Michael Russell
They wouldn't want you to do that.
Eli Peterson
Are you ordering it online? So far I can only find it on Amazon and Abebooks
Do you happen to have a link for the Gaisokyu scans? And thank you for everything you've posted, I'm always looking to add more artwork to my collection.
Henry Carter
Speaking of scans, are there any for ABe's 20th anniversary books? I found a new copy for one of them online so I'm thinking of getting it but if there are scans I might hold off.
Maybe I should buy a scanner.
Ethan Robinson
I don't know if it has everything but I found this collection of his works on Nyaa. It took me a few days to find a seeder so when I get home I'll start seeding it too.
nyaa.si
Jaxon Williams
Torrentin'. I'll seed too if I manage to download something
Lincoln Sanders
>Be me
>Enjoy Lain
>Enjoy Haibane Renmei
>Enjoy texhnolyze
>All 10/10's for me
>Then find out they are all done by the same guy.
Luke Wood
Based India
Isaac Hall
They're not
Jason Garcia
This, they are all drawn by the same guy but they have different directors. HR is the one with the most ABe participation since he wrote the story too
Jordan King
Bless you anons, I'll seed too
Gabriel Mitchell
My bad here's a better quality version.
Christian Martinez
KURISUMASU
Jason Sullivan
Start seeding, negroes
Luis Cooper
Me in the picture
Sebastian Brooks
Just got home, seeding now
Noah Perez
>They did as much they could with the bluray release.
No they didn't. The bluray release is utter garbage. It's better to watch the DVD than that shit.
Jason Cooper
Based brit
Landon Turner
Here's a Russian (I assume, I can't read Cyrillic) blog with direct downloads for a bunch of ABe artbooks if the torrent is missing something you want.
codeartstudio.org
Tyler Murphy
What a blessed thread
Jace Allen
That doesn't mean they didn't do all they could. They only have SD masters to work with. Both HR and Texh were early 00s digital productions. Lain turned out well because they could scan the film again but all you can do with digital stuff (if you don't have the original assets) is upscale and filter, which is what they did. It does look sharper, I looked at both the bluray and DVD rips before watching, but apparently introduces artifacting at times.
Jordan Cox
Checked
Noah Brooks
I got it from Mandarake for ¥4500
Juan Thomas
Haibane Renmei has the best New Year's episode in anime.
Luke Nelson
Haibane Renmei has been best described as a religious anime that illuminates every religion at once, because it asks all the questions that only religion can answer (the questions most modern thinkers and scientists will tell you are predicated on false assumptions about humanity's place in the world).
The Haibane come into the world from a place they cannot remember bearing in their dreams a core nature the origin of which they cannot explain (incarnation, a concept common to almost every religion). They depart the world, bound... somewhere, after they complete a vague task of self-betterment they cannot fully comprehend (actions in life have consequences that echo through eternity, but no one knows what comes after death). They inhabit a world that seems obviously created by something, since its very existence is absurd, but their limited perspective allows them to do no more then to guess at the regions of time and space beyond their view (the Book of Nature, a common way to argue for God---although Glie could also be taken as an argument for a demiurge). And their only guidance, as beings of indeterminate origin born into an unknowable world for an inscrutable purpose, is an arcane, deliberately arbitrary system of rules imposed by tradition and authority---religion itself. It may seem absurd that "good Haibane" must not accept money, or must work at the oldest shop of its type in town, or must not wear new clothes, but the very absurdity of the Law is what gives it salvific power. By compelling ourselves to bend to rules we don't understand, we shape the humble souls that we require to survive amidst such dread mysteries.
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Ayden James
So of course Haibane Renmei is 100% Christian---only Christ can be the crow that sacrifices Himself to fly over the wall of original sin and bring you the gift of salvation, as interpreted by His church. And of course it's 100% Buddhist---only by the rejection of the illusory self that leaves us "sin-bound" to the cycle of reincarnation can we break free of the endless walls of Glie and awaken from our dream. And of course it's 100% Jewish---the Haibane are a people set apary from others, who have a special place in the mind of God but must abide by strict laws and customs which the townsfolk may not fully comprehend, and who find their salvation in communion with their cobelievers and obedience to their traditions. And of course it's 100% Manichean, and Islamic, and Hindu, and everything else, because it acknowledges that humans require salvation from their self-doubt through religion without dictating what that religion should prescribe (apart from the universal values of kindness, self-sacrifice, and faith itself). By being a show simply about life itself, Haibane Renmei can also be a show about religion at its most primaeval.
Benjamin Parker
ngl, I really like these opinions
Landon Perez
Same here. I wish I could come up with such nice analyses but I'm a dummy who just gets smaller ideas that I can't turn into full posts.
Oliver Sanders
>the Haibanes were a mistake
Jayden Walker
I want to eat Rakka's pankeiki.
Josiah Peterson
I want to eat rakka's rakka
Easton Wright
I want to eat Hikari's halo bagels.
Jacob Turner
I want to eat Rakka's donut.
Christian Hernandez
W-what is Rakka's rakka?
I wonder what they taste like, after being made in the halo press...
Rakka could probably make good donuts.
Dylan Reyes
Hikari best girl.
Thomas Hill
Luke Carter
>only Christ can be the crow that sacrifices Himself to fly over the wall of original sin and bring you the gift of salvation
But Rakka and Reki were the only ones that needed that, and Rakka did it for Reki.
>only by the rejection of the illusory self that leaves us "sin-bound" to the cycle of reincarnation can we break free of the endless walls of Glie and awaken from our dream
No one does any such thing. On the contrary the cocoon-like nature of Glie suggests the Haibane's existence is a part of their cycle of rebirth.
Caleb Martin
Surely you mean Kana.
Jason Wilson
No, I think he meant Nemu
Julian Garcia
Nemu is fine too.
Robert Evans
I think user's point is more that no religion is perfect, but all religions sketch some similar outline towards a shared fundamental truth about the human condition, and that same truth is why religiously-inclined people tend to see their own faith reflected in the show. The particulars of each fit will naturally be a bit shaky.
Juan Bailey
I've binge watched this anime last week, I'm happy to see such a nice thread with good content and actual discussion. Thank you anons
Jace Murphy
iBane
Not funny though. Haibane aren't for sexualizing.
Leo Brown
You're welcome
Henry Hill
Cooper Bell
Lincoln Torres
Threads for depressing shows are usually so nice. Why is that?
Nicholas Thompson
Funny you post a Kino image since it's one of the other series that gives me a similar feeling to HR.
Hudson Lewis
Depressing shows make us want to open up and share our feelings more than happier or more action oriented shows would. I have no proof but I'd bet the audience is also more mature, or at least calmer, than the majority of the board.
Kevin Ortiz
Luke Bell
Haibane is very wholesome, also ABe fans are generally smart, wholesome people.
Benjamin Rogers
Name a comfier piece of media, I dare you
Brandon Morales
based
Samuel Wood
YKK, but it's still hard to top.
Matthew Edwards
Haibane butts?
Josiah Campbell
No
Grayson Peterson
I don't remember what happened in this show at all. But I'll never forget how it made me feel.
Eli Collins
Daniel White
I wish the US release came with Love Will Light the Way as the last ED.
Aiden Campbell
wow this thread is stil alive?
Leo Foster
Unlike Reki.
David Parker
OOOOOOOOOHHHH
Adrian Ramirez
Sorry, I had to.
Andrew Peterson
So long, lads. Close your eyes
Henry Morales
Goodnight, featherbros. I love each and every one of you.
Jaxson White
Until next time, love will always light the way.
Jace Gray
I want more Rakka
Thomas Carter
I can't remember the last time I saw a Haibane Renmei thread last this long. It's been nice.
Eli Phillips
Yeah real relaxing.