Name a better weapon, you can't

its anime. they break the laws of physics.

based and bropilled

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ez EA gg LMAO

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I miss these faggots so much

They have magic anti gravity air cushions that make them move so hast normal pilot turns into red paste which is why they are piloted by genetically and cybernetically enhanced super pilots.

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The setting firmly establishes that there are numerous better weapons, that one just has the advantage of support that can magically neuter said better weapons.

>jobs to a dragon idol

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Anything from Ace Combat, really.

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>Something as big as an heavy object simply cannot accelerate fast enough to react to a threat unless they break the law of physic.

Sure it can, you just need a couple gigawatts of power to do it.

>the author simply doesn't understand that nothing could survive a direct nuclear explosion.

It's actually pretty well explained as millimeter thick layers of high grade steel and high end fire retardant chemicals stacked over 50 meters thick. It's kinda like being in the Cheyenne bunker in terms of protectiveness.

They actually only killed 2, the Water Strider and the 0.5 gen.

That is still 2.5 more than what is expected of them.

Anything from Belka*

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No it's really not that simple. Unless you have inertial control technology, applying more force would just destroy the structure.

> It's actually pretty well explained as millimeter thick layers of high grade steel and high end fire retardant chemicals stacked over 50 meters thick

People inside might survive, but any sensor, any weapon outside would be destroyed or rendered unusable, the heat alone would melt any metal known to man.

If we're counting cripples as half kills then it's more like 3-4.

If anything, those two prove that even ungodly powerful superweapons still need support and even the biggest weapon can still fall to a cheap trick.

*blocks your path*

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Leasath superweapons > Belka superweapons

"That"

>build superweapon
>declare war
>random rookie pilot singlehandedly destroys superweapon, 90% of the airforce and the entire enemy fleet
Normal fighter pilots you can find everywhere are the actual best weapons.

>No it's really not that simple. Unless you have inertial control technology, applying more force would just destroy the structure.
Depends on how you distribute the thrust and the structural strength of the material.

> but any sensor, any weapon outside would be destroyed or rendered unusable

That's generally what happens to a nuked Object. Only around 20-30 percent of their weapons and sensors survive.

There's already Ace Combat superweapons in HO. There are side story volumes focused on aces rather than those giant mecha.

But does it surpass metal gear?
Everyone was so busy to make the next generation of heavy objects to be anti objects they forgot to include anti personal options.

Belka go home, you're drunk.

HEY BROTHER
READY FOR THIS FIGHT?

I fucking hate this thing in Super Robot Wars Z. It's so goddamn useless.

While in J it's practically a super robot. Roflstomping everything with this ship and her murder of Aestivalis was the most fun I've ever had in an SRW game.

>All function no form
If I can't beat you, I'll join you.
And we can both lose to stupid teenagers.

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I thought it was kinda useless in J also.
Or was that the super robot with the yoyo? I forget which sucked ass.

Just passing by to say that you sir are awesome.

Combattler V will always be underwhelming in SRW games because always have to choose survivbility and attack power. Nadesico on the other hand has a shield on top of having a ship's HP and armoru, two powerful main attacks, two high power map attacks, a crew of Aestivalis that also has shields that could be used or support defense when needed, and dodge rates on par with some super robots despite being a ship.

That should read: "have to choose between survivability and attack power".

You forgot the Simple Is Best and Megalodiver

Iserlohn.

That is just the ball version of a Bolo tank.

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haven't gotten into the LNs. Mostly because most translations make me want to gouge my eyes out.

Borb.

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Well...yes. Just no super advanced AI core.
Juliet excluded

HO is being translated by js06.exe so the translation itself is as good as it can get
The LN itself is far from being a literary masterpiece though, but I guess that's par for the course

Autism always finds a way

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Not to mention with all their lasers and other weaponry, a nuke wont get within blast radius of the machine due to how accurate and thorough it is in shooting shit outa the sky

Its a b movie in novel form

Its entertainment, nothing more, nothing less

>Heavy mass
>Ground doesn't crumble
I love anime physic

A giant egg vibrator?

It does though, several times in several novels in several places...

by right all heavy objects can't move on even normal grounds. That's the reason why German stopped developing massive tanks

Just call her fat.

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>by right all heavy objects can't move on even normal grounds.

That's bullshit. Look at the gargantuan excavators in Germany. Roughly 14 000 tons and they move just fine.

Her fat!

The Germans stopped developing giant tanks because a fuck load of Soviets and Yanks turned up and stole the scientists.

>my friendship with the Fuhrer is over
>Commies and Yanks are my best friends now

>b-but reality!

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>anons actually remember Saikano
Well deserved FPBP user.

>AA protection and the armor is designed to tank nuclear detonations.
Did they ever try two nukes?
Because one seemed to do enough damage that other would finish the job.

I need a bolo anime.

They let one of the nukes get through their fuckton of lasers to show it can tank a nuke. They are never going to let a second nuke hit them.

>b-b-but Objects are best designed weapons ever
>who cares they are build from Unobtanium and run on Unicorn dust
It's always retarded when shitty pulp sci-fi writers only apply breakthroughs in material / energy and all other sciences to one gimmick that is center of the story but forget about everything else or hand wave it with some idiotic excuses.

I want to rape the aryans .t ivan

The fleet got wiped out before they got a second nuke off. After that they decided it wasn't worth the effort. An Object could plausibly use nukes with wild abandon, even at close range and nobody wanted to provoke that.

Me too user. The closest we got was Tank Killer vs Boggy fight in The Third.

Objects actually are explained fairy well. It's not magic shit like usual mecha.

No, it's worse. It's handwavium pretend "realistic" science that doesn't actually make sense at all.

>Laughs in Casaba Howitzer

Objects are kinda bullshit. I worked it out at one point, and the work done by the drag force on an Object at-speed (or done to oppose that drag), comes out to something like detonating a Hiroshima-sized atom bomb every second. How the heating from this, or the waste from generating the power for the drive, is handled is never addressed.

>Sure it can, you just need a couple gigawatts of power to do it.
And magic supermaterials to keep the structure together. If the g-loading on the pilot is high enough to knock out an unaugmented human, it's probably safe to say it peaks at over 9g. The mass of an Object has been consistently kept at 200,000 tons.

Accordingly, force on the connection between the dive floats and the main body during maneuvers is something to the tune of 1.76*10^10 Newtons. As a conservative estimate.

If the connection between the drive float legs and the man body is a solid pedestal 10 meters across, that gives an approximate stress of 220 Gigapascals, which is three orders of magnitude higher than the yield strength of steel, and around a hunderd times the yield strength of the best composites.

Shells regularly impact directly on objects. Just mix a nuclear device in with a regular barrage. This point would only be accurate if objects reliably shot down everything fired at them with their secondary batteries fully engaged.

>It's not magic shit like usual mecha.
In a lot of ways, it's worse.

Explaining that this particular mecha is made of unobtanium doesn't make it any better than your usual mecha

lol, why are object fans like this? Do you sincerely believe you're smarter than other mecha fans?

The reactor is simply handwaved as a clean energy source that outputs nuclear reactor+ levels of power. It does not need an explanation because any attempts to do so will only hamper the story. It is a blackbox purposefully kept a secret to ensure a sci-fi work doesn't get bogged down by realism. Just know that it is their most advanced piece of technology and the crystallization of the collective knowledge of humanity.

How about something that doesn't put its main guns in its own firing arcs?

>that outputs nuclear reactor+ levels of power
But that's not even close to enough. And has nothing to do with the heat transfer problem. Miskatonic is second best object for kind-sorta acknowledging this.

>It does not need an explanation
You mean like when he tries to explain the gimmick of the object of the week with something 'science' thing he read on wikipedia?

> because any attempts to do so will only hamper the story
Worked fine for UC Gundan. Better than fine, probably.

>Just know that it is their most advanced piece of technology and the crystallization of the collective knowledge of humanity.
So why do they only use it to power this one ultra-specific thing?

It's a fun story, but that only works with the assumption that you know exactly how dumb it it. Which is very.

>construction equipment has the same mobility requirements as mobile armor
Unbased and Dunning-Kruger pilled

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Based and rapepilled

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UC Gundam relies on Minovsky particles and Newtypes for their shit to work. Same principle applies here. The JPlevel MHD reactors exists to ensure all the weapons, propulsion, sensor, whatever systems on the Objects works without any issues. There's really no need to go deeper into it because any attempts at trying to explain it will not work because such technology cannot feasibly exist in real life in the foreseeable future.

And given that HO verse has fucking moon colonies and laser propulsion engines for deep space exploration, chances are, they are using a non-combat variant of the reactors for civilian use so the factions don't confuse them as military targets.

>So why do they only use it to power this one ultra-specific thing?
Because it's a logistical nightmare? A danger? Overkill? I doubt your cellphone is nuclear powered.

Lemme just tear my entire arm off

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But they explain how Minovsky physics work, and everything that happens in the story is basically consistent with that. OYW-era, at least.

>Same principle applies here.
Not really.

>The JPlevel MHD reactors exists to ensure all the weapons, propulsion, sensor, whatever systems on the Objects works without any issues
So this reactor runs on negative entropy to cool everything while also providing power, right?

Also, you're the one applying it to sensors and propulsion. 'More power' does not solve the issues of, for example, arcing making the electrostatic floats impossible. Or electrostatic repulsion scattering the charge making it impossible under nearly all circumstances.

>There's really no need to go deeper into it because any attempts at trying to explain it will not work
You know the hard sci-fi genre exists, right? You absolutely can do this, it just requires work. A lot of golden age sci-fi (Some of Asimov, Heinlein, etc). Which brings us to...

> fucking moon colonies and laser propulsion engines for deep space exploration
Both of these are actually viable. You should probably stop talking before you do more to reveal that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>chances are, they are using a non-combat variant of the reactors
It's explicitly stated that they are not, during the Tri-Core arc. Of course, this may be because there is no civilian energy on the level of a continuously detonating atom bomb.

I just calculated that shit with your numbers and I come 224 N/mm^2, which is quite doable for steel

The only good thing about this show was the opening

>only good thing
You certain about that?

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I checked my napkin - my initial numbers were off - it is, in fact ~224.5 MPa, which is right about the limit for steel at room temperature. Which still makes it not work, because the material is explicitly stated to be steal, and the metal fatigue is going to kill it.

That said, it doesn't really matter, because it would be a shear load anyway, which is a lot worse. And pedestal can't really be solid anyway, and the unresolved heating issues mean that room-temperature material values aren't really relevant.