People understate how big of a villain Ritsuko is

People understate how big of a villain Ritsuko is

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>thinking in terms of "good guys" and "villains"
yikes.

She’s tragic.

She's a bitch

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

agreed. Her Rei genocide was really fucked up. I liked how Misato would BTFO her in one way or another whether slapping or insulting her.

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Everyone in NGE is tragic. Except Yui and Seele.

Yui and SEELE both had good intentions tho....
There obviously both retarded and misguided but there both trying to do what they think is right.

Yui is an insane sociopath

insane.... maybe
Phsycopath, hell no lmao. Her goals are misguided and not well thought out. She is not a phsyco though she is doing what she thinks is best

>Psychopath = Sociopath
Yikes.

I think you'd be a little wacky in the head if you got trapped inside a giant robot prison for 11 years

"trapped" she put herself in there for autistic reasons.

why was she naked here?

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A lot of people miss most of eva. they're too focused on which 14 year old to fuck

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Humiliation. I mean Seele were robots waist down.

Her motivation at the end is just to spite Gendo, but destroying Rei, Lilith, and the Black Moon would be more like antiheroism. The world would be saved except for Seele being left alive, people could have pretended she had better reasons and made a statue.

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What exactly was Ritsuko's motive for helping Gendo with his secret agenda so much?
Is Gendo just that good in the sack?

she's completely alone, friendless and generally miserable. Misato insults her about it a few time when she's really being a bitch

Honestly a lot of Misato's blows against her were uncalled for.
Not like Misato demonstrates she has many friends either, and she makes fun of Rits for being a cat lady when she lives with a damn penguin.

A cool sentient penguin
Basically a human honestly

She got somehow raped by Seele. There's some absurdly long evageeks page on this, but I can't be assed to find it.

I still wonder how this request was made.

Gendo tells SEELE that Ritsuko will talk to them in place of Rei, and they just go "K, but make her come naked, seriously vital to the scenario she is in the nude for our big monolith hologram talk"

They were promised a naked girl.

Yui was wacky in the head long before she purposely put herself in the robot.

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I don't remember the context, but look at the contrast between the dialogue and the visuals. It might just represent humiliation, not that she was raped.

She's pure evil.

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I kinda thought it was lazy giving her and her mom the same motivation. He struggled way too much to give everyone a mental problem. Like that guy obsessed with Reis.

I wouldn't say pure evil, but definitely self-centered as hell.

Planned on her soul getting stuck in Unit-01 so that she could get to serve as immortal proof of humanity's existence - not telling anyone except Fuyutsuki, bringing her son to watch and not caring how he and her husband handle it.

And with her own son she got the idea to prop him up as humanity's judge and savior.

That she actually succeeds on both of her objectives is pretty frightening.

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I understood everything in NGE except one thing: Why is Eva-01 needed for the Third Impact? Couldn't Lilith/Rei bring it about with the Adam embryo?

Yes, Gendo's plan only involved Lilith/Rei and the Adam embryo.
Gendo only wanted 01 safe and sound since Yui's soul was in it, but would not use it for instrumentality.

SEELE resorts to causing instrumentality with Unit-01 (which was born from Lilith) and Adam's Lance, with the MP-EVAs as their means of controlling it.
At least that is how I understood it.

She was a virgin until 25, she didn't become interested in sex until she saw her mother with a man for the first time. Her expectations for sex would have been informed by hearing about Misato's, she was waiting all along for it to turn good enough to take a week off doing nothing else.

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Meanwhile Shinji becomes a complete potato at the end of Eva 3.0.

Something about the thing it ate from one of the last angels that gave it infinite energy, and using it as a strong vessel to become a god, or some shit like that.
Them old guys was crazy.

I guess that makes sense... the way I understood it is that the EVA is protecting the last two human souls to be absorbed into instrumentality: Shinji and Yui. You can't have full instrumentality unless all children of Lilith are taken in. I just don't know why a ritual is needed and not a simple sacrifice.

I thought combining Lilith and Adam made one into "God?"

It's complicated, it was in a Japan exclusive game that explains where Adam and Lilith came from and other stuff that was planned to be in the original show but they couldn't fit it in.
Just... don't, don't think about it. Old guys wanted to put themselves and all the other tang in there because reasons...

Apparently its some precursor race of something that creates and sends beings like Adam and Lilith out to create life on other planets.

They are gonna be pissed off when they see how Earth turned out.

They can't be pissed off if they're extinct.
Which I'm pretty sure is the reason they sent a bunch of seeds through space in the first place.

Adam might not have been necessary at all except as a bridge for Gendo personally. Rei was already being supernatural before she took it, Lilith didn't need it to regenerate half its body when the lance was pulled out, Lilith-derived Unit-01 was regenerating and activating itself without having an angel-specific organ since the first episode, it's not clear that it added anything.

>yikes

Agreed

Where is he looking?
Where is he aiming?

yes.

You don't need to look down the sights to aim at someone from that close

If that gun is pointed at Ritsuko, then Gendo is looking above her.

...Or he's pointing at her chest and looking her in the eyes

He's still looking too far up to have Ritsuko in his center vision. Could there be a Rei above Ritsuko that he has noticed?

His head is tilting down.

Not enough to cause him to look almost directly up. It could be the last words he said to Ritsuko was "there's a ghost behind you" and Ritsuko tried to call out on his bullshit, so he shot her and she saw Rei was behind her all this time.

>there's a ghost behind you

The moral of the show is that fucking thots ruin fucking everything.

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Only bros got your back.

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she dindu nufin, the only bad things she did is that she didn t go after shinji just to fuck with gendo

Everything is Gendo's fault in the end

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Gendo is an unwilling pawn in Yui's grand plan. The big conceit of the show is that despite his appearance as the confident schemer, he is in control of literally nothing and just desperately trying to reunite with Yui.

Did she love him or was he just her loyal dog that would carry out her plans no matter what?

The real """villain""" in NGE was Yui.

To begin with it was she who came up with an idea to blow up most of the planet, then fight off the angels and become gods or some shit.

Ritsuko was just a cog in the machine doing her job.

BTW Risuko is the best adult woman in the show and a lot better than Misato.

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>evageeks

Evageeks is full of trash, and length of their absurdities doesn't add up to their authority.

In fact one of the basic philosophical principles is to go with the shortest viable explaination.

Which is why i would take any Anons word over the bullshit articles on Evageeks.

Gendo didn't do shit.
His only part was trying to derail the Yuis grand plan by manipulating Rei and it didn't work.

He's looking her in the eyes and aims at the center of mass.

Ritsuko got killed with a body shot.

Because she accomplished very little

How different would the story go if Shinji banged Asuka

not that different lmao, cuck pity sex would not really change the dynamic between the two characters

She gets her comeuppance in EoE though

Asuka din't participate in the big picture in any significant way.

As for shinji - he did the best he could anyway.
Maybe he could save Toji if he was manlier but that's about it.

Too bad the story doesn't explain whatever the fuck happened to Rei 3's memory and how exactly her character changed.

If Asuka was in top psychical condition, she could get killed instead of Rei 2 and Rei 2 could act differently in EOE, not sure though.
Rei 3 seemed to have inherited most of Rei 2's character while trying to be different or something.

People understate how big of a villain Maya was.

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Being a dyke is pretty evil

So why did the Akagi family want to fuck Gendo again?

>11 years
She's trapped in 01 for all eternity, unable to die. And she fucking chose this, she's absolutely insane.

It's an interrogation, very common technique when interrogating people is to strip them, supposedly it helps and makes them vulnerable.

Ritsuko literally taunted Shinji out of anger at Gendo "oh btw kid, this is where your mom died, you saw it but you forgot because you're so dumb, lol". She was a turbo bitch

>I understood everything in NGE except one thing: Why is Eva-01 needed for the Third Impact?
It's only required for Gendo, since that's where his wife's soul is.
>Couldn't Lilith/Rei bring it about with the Adam embryo?
Yes, any combination of Lillith and Adam can bring about third impact.

>20+ years later
>brainlets still don't understand the basic plot of Eva in the age of wikipedia

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If I remember correctly each planet is only meant to have an Adam or Lilith so if they both end up on the same planet they're meant to explode upon contact killing everything

What’s wrong with ?

That would be Maya, but still.

>fucks over the entirety of humanity and also abuses children repeatedly
>JUST for some dickings from Gendo
???
I refuse to believe anyone has oneitis this bad. Let alone for someone who you know for a fact will never even like you, let alone love.

If NERV didn't keep Lilith locked up at the very bottom, in theory, the angels wouldn't have any reason to attack right?
So in the end Yui, Gendo, and SEELE are the bad guys?

Is it really a bad thing that the angels are attacking the earth?

Why were the angels attacking Earth anyway

what did she and her mom see in gendo

Shameless cock-dodging.

Retaking their homeland
Angels were there before humans

yup lol, I watched the show three times and that did not occur to me dude, then I read forum post or evageeks had to LOL at that theory

>implying he didn't in the first place
Pretty sure the angels want to wipe out all other life on Earth since they were there first, so they would have attacked even if NERV didn't construct a secret base around Lilith, and us going extinct is objectively a BAD thing for us.
SEELE wanted to turn everybody into tang and become super space god, so they were bad.
Gendo was obsessed with getting his wife back because without her he's convinced he can't make anybody happy, especially himself and his son.
I don't know what Yui counts as, but she probably thought she was doing the right thing at least.
The show's definition of "human" technically extends to them and the Evas, but I know what you mean.
a mysterious man that wasn't hideous and was wiling to put out?

The three technicians are probably the only completely innocent people in the show

Well I mean Lilith would still be somewhere right
The Angels would still attack Earth just not Tokyo-3
Why did no one question why the Angels always went for Tokyo-3 anyway?

I still don't really understand why she was fucking Gendo aside from mommy issues

Everyone in power knew why and was on board with it.

>helps and makes them vulnerable.
I'd have a raging boner nonstop. They'd have to put cloths on my dick just to humiliate me.

Male exhibitionists are on the same level as scatfags. No one wants to see that shit.

what about people who like dick

Fuck you OP, only Jews are evil

When did they ever say Ritsuko wasn't Jewish?

>there's a ghost behind you

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>How different would the story go if Shinji banged Misato
ftfy*

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A villain who terrorizes my sperm count. What few Ritsuko doujins that are out there are absolute top tier.

She’s the cruel angel. Bravo Anno!

What about Aoba?

Abosolutely based

Was it truly an act of villany?

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yes, because she wasn't sitting on me

>Anno didn't show how fucked up the bridge crew was
Now in retrospect i'm a little pissed I would love to see those three have their "skeletons" revealed, You fucking know Aoba had some with trying to look like the Chad and playing music and shit, bet he did cocaine or something.

>R-Lab 3 never ever

Come the fuck on Saigado.

Yeah, never made sense to me.

Rits had mommy issues, but she didn't seem to hate her mom enough to just fuck Gendo out of spite.
And she had her mom's secret notes inside Casper detailing how Gendo is a complete asshole.
Also from what she knows about Unit-01, she should be fully aware that Gendo's objective is his dead wife.

She's the sexiest woman

Imagine Gendo giving you this look. You'll be giving him your boipucci before he can say "get on the bed, user"

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Aoba is real interesting. The other bridge crews and everyone else for that matter saw their loved ones, but fucking Aoba saw the Reis for what they were, always found that interesting

Probably means Aoba had no loved ones to use against him, and has some kind of nihilistic attitude.
And Rei has some seriously repressed sexuality to work out.

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probably wanted his own army of naked Rei clones to service him

I love Welcome to the N.H.K!

>got around to watching rebuild 3 last night
what the hell was that all about? after everything that goes on Asuka just pops open his plug and drags him back to WILLE like "oh stupid shinji, you did it again!"

will shinji ever stop suffering, bros?

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i miss him, bros..........

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Jet Alone unironically would have saved everyone had Ritsuko not been a dumb bitch whore slut cunt

Not really.
Jet Alone has no AT-Field and never can have one, so its worthless in battle against both angels and other Evangelion.

Only a matter of research

Horny, lonely, and the second deepest in the conspiracy shit next to Fuyutsuki. Given how Action Arc Ritz explained away Gendo's autism, she probably was the only person who got to see vulnerable Gendo instead of cold Gendo, outside of Rei.

Gendo is Ritsuko's Shinji, basically.

Aoba was an edgy 90s nihilist. The Reis had to brute force Tang him, since he loved no one.

Go to bed, Tokita.

>shinji didn't want to get tang'd and instead wanted everyone to continue suffering as individual meatbags or I guess just him and asuka along with whatever lineage of humanity they create
what the fuck is his problem

I'm fairly well versed with the show but have no clue where you're getting this from. Can you guys explain to me?

A lot, but your greentext has nothing to do with them.

Not sure what you're getting at but he made the wrong choice regardless. FUCK SHINJI

>wrong choice
I don't follow.

shoulda went with the tang tbqh.

But Shinji DID bang Asuka.
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This is the ONE EvaGeeks theory that actually makes perfect sense.

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How many drugs are you on?

>all this super interesting shit I missed
Fuck you guys, guess downloading and rewatching this shit a fourth time.

>Your test is finished, now put your clothes on. We didn't even tell you to take them off.

>fourth time

This reminds me that I watched it three times and was like the first manga I ever read, I guess year after year watchings different things I always go back and pick up new things I never noticed.

Why is there no Evangelion Blu-Ray boxset?

There is a japanese one.

FUCK YOU! ASUKA IS PURE! FUCK THIS AND FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING RETARD!!

Okay, sure, but listen.

Like... 90% of everything bad Ritsuko and Gendo do is directly a reaction to stuff Yui did or straight up told them to do.

So did Third Impact wipe out all life on Earth and doom the last two humans, Asuka and Shinji, to starve to death on a poisoned world?

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I'm confused. What did Yui do except for loving humanity and doing an experiment to create souls?

My theory is that Human Instrumentality is a fucked up version of the Buddhist Nirvana, so only sentient beings got absorbed

Until LCL degades or some shit. It's not sustainable. The world loss all its complexity. If it was some ultimate state of existence then it would have persisted for the billions of years.

Regardless of whether the souls persist for some short period of time, Earth is dead and will remain dead. Even if life begins again it won't have the time to evolve complexity before the Sun destroys the Earth.

Possibly like suggested and things like plants or maybe animals less intelligent than PenPen didn't enter instrumentality, or as its named it was only human instrumentality.
Can't see how a tree or bacteria could possibly imagine itself in its own heart to come back after all.

Or, see pic, Asuka and Shinji have plenty of food.

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I remember back in a thread awhile ago we were having a giggle about a possible tree/plant instrumentality

No, all life is dead. All life is held together by AT fields. That's why anti AT fields don't just cause brain death, they destroy the bonds of every single cell. It is metaphysical. Literally every cell on the planet is dead. Earth is doomed.

Great plan the characters of our favorite show came up with. They are so well written.

I never watched the Rebuilds but apparently there's a thing where if you pilot an Eva you don't age, maybe that also means immortality?

Cope.

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Hmm, maybe trees are all super egotistical and we just don't know it.

>the chad stride

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Am I am idiot for not knowing what the fuck happened here? Did he get tanged or what?

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He got killed. Erased from instrumentality

The manga makes it clear he simply died.

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>eva"3.0 had no significant changes during production"geeks

Not even an edgelord, but they should have shot Shinji at the end of 3.33.

agreed idiot Shinji never fails to disappoint

so for anyone else who watched rebuild 3. where the hell does shinji go from here? the dynamic shift from "the world is ending here comes the third impact" to "alright stupid shinji, let's go back to WILLE!" was so drastic, that it honestly made me feel uncomfortable.

They can eat the floating Rei head for a while. Also bullshit I doubt sea algae and deep sea creatures got tang'd.

Asukafags fear the Rei

It's all Lilith life so yes, it's all dead. It's all fucking dead. LCL isn't cellular. All cells have been converted to LCL.

Does that include dead cells?
Shinji had his gravemarker posts, so wood from trees does not appear to have tanged.

>Eating wood

They're not beavers, user. Unless you bring Shinji's morning wood into the equation...

Beavers don't eat wood... unless they do, giggity.

I know they can't eat wood, but its possible evidence trees made it somehow considering dead humans still went to tang.

When we're in the run up to/FINAL does come out, Saigado will most likely get back to making Evangelion doujins; right now they're busy with doing mainstream H-manga & doing original Yaoi-shota doujin on the side.

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That hardly helps, since dead people were still part of instrumentality. The question has always been, does Gendo get to go swim in the Tang with everyone else.

It's not his fault.
The manga is radically different, it really shouldn't be used as an argument for something in the anime, same as how we don't apply stuff from Rebuild, it's a separate continuity.

By the time of that manga panel, everyone else already got the tang treatment including those who died in NERV and Ritsuko's body right next to him.
And Yui just tells Gendo he's gonna die.

Asuka is not really relevant to the bigger scheme of the Eva plot.

He is very explicitly left out. Gendo does not get what he wants because Shinji hated him and Yui granted Shinji's wish. Ritsuko died right before instrumentality but she still got tanged. Gendo died afterwards and just died like everyone who died before him.

Maybe not the physical events but remember that Shinji and Asuka's mental suffering takes a lot of screentime

Oh it's very important to the show and viewing experience for sure. But the big things going on, Asuka is rather irrelevant. Just another in a long line of people who cumulatively shape Shinji into his mental state.

>Thinking mental disease exists
Yikes

Under that logic the SEELE group are the most relevant characters in the whole show, more than even Shinji.

Shut up, Japan. Your stoic nature is what leads to such high suicide rates.

>Gendo died afterwards and just died like everyone who died before him.
What? People who died before instrumentality were still part of instrumentality, Toji and Kaiji and other non main characters were still there, as long as your soul isn't trapped in an Eva or something you're part of instrumentality, that's why everyone thinks the rebuilds are sequels due the retarded reincarnation theme.

Toji only lost a leg remember

Rei didn't get trees. They might still die anyway because she fucked the water cycle. Bacteria were mentioned once in the series inside Fuyutsuki's exposition about Second Impact and all life in the former Antarctic region being destroyed when Adam exploded, but Third Impact wasn't any indiscriminate explosion or anti-AT wave, every little red light and green cross was from a Rei going out and tagging somebody.

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This. You have to remember, Adam's motive was to purge the planet, Rei's was not.

So we throw out what makes sense because they reused a background?... Sounds good to me.

>Literally get shown trees
>N-no actually anno is just retarded there cant be trees no no no no

Maybe Rei did get all the trees, but those trees were so mentally focused and self-secure that they all instantly imagined themselves in their own heart ASAP when instrumentality ended.

Trees have the strongest mental fortitude of any living organism

Do animals in Eva besides humans actually have souls? Are lilin just humans? Or do they include the entire biosphere on Earth?

>I can't read.

We throw out the idea you absorbed from an anime wikia edited by a robot who couldn't process two things called Impact not being the same.

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Action Arc Ritz?

Pen-Pen probably has a soul.

They are the reason the show happens, so they are pretty important.

This would actually make sense, since trees are pretty based.

Ritsuko from 7-16.

Trees are the only Eva characters who did nothing wrong

still wud bery

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I think you hit the nail on the head, though. Shinji's mental state is pretty important to the events of the series. If Shinji were in better shape by the time of EoE, he might've just rejected Instrumentality out of hand. Hell, even if he just ends up being a tiny bit better off as a result, a non-catatonic Shinji might've been able to beat the MP Evas with Asuka.

She is hot.

stepfather based electra complex?

So if Rei was made after Yui died, does that mean 00 was made after 01?

What made sense to me was that the prototype was proof of concept that they could get angel tissue to grow on electronics and they'd work together, they moved on to the test type to work out how to program one, then returned to the prototype and retrofitted it with the programming method they discovered so they could experiment with that instead and mess around with the test type less after it became personally important to the project director. I don't think any Eva was completed before 2014.

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Oh.
Okay, that makes sense.
Also serves as one of the explanations for why it was shit.

I just want to know where PenPen is

People understate how shallow this show is

Ruling the new Penguin Imperium as the God-Emperor of Penguinkind now that his plan to wipe out humanity succeeded

Did they ever explain what happened with her biological father

who misatos? or ristuko. because we know what happened to Misatos, Ritsuko was with a single mom. Her mom was pretty hot too.

00 was made before using Adam's DNA via cloning. 01 was made by cutting off the legs of Lilith and have it regrow another torso from is cut off torso. There is a pic of it. Any ways 00 was made first but 01 was be worked on at the same time.

This actually happen in the series?

no, a lot of girls wish it did but no.

yeah, but I think the reason Gendo was so cold to shinji other than wanting to be with Yui was to make shinji lose his shit and create 3rd impact. I mean if you notice there are no therapists to help people like shinji and the stress that came with the pilot. It was so that the Pilots ego would break down forcing the 3rd impact to accur.

He could have started it just by himself in 01? Unless 1) I’m retarded or 2) you meant he’d order it to happen and force his way to merge 01s god-soul with one of the FAR vessels god-bodies

he couldnt with out a S2 engine in the Eva's core. Plus a 3rd impact early when the Angel's were around would have screwed up the process.

the point I was trying to make was that Shinji had to lose his shit in order to actually condemn humanity to instrumentality. Basically when his ego was breaking down he was melding with Unit 1, like when he nearly didnt comeback and was shat out by the Eva's core.
See, the point of letting the pilot lose control was so Selee could take over for shinji and be in control. However Rei stopped this and became the control circuit between the Eva and Shinji. This allowed all those Reis in the LCL turn into shinji thus giving him the final say while rei does all the heavy lifting for shinji's mind.

Japanese Bluray. Eva's distribution in the West has always been Hellish. Honestly Netflix getting it in 1080p is the bes thing we can hope for
>But, muh normie invasion
Normies won't give a fuck about a 4;3 Japanimation from the mid 90's. Only Zoomers getting into anime will be first time watchers

Of course Ristuko. Everyone knows about Misato's daddy's issues but did they ever even mention if Ristuko's father died when she was young or a hit and run or what

with her problems just raised not having a dad at all. So she was considered "boy shy" when all she was doing is being too logical.

would still pump my seed into her

Ristuko>Misato

do they?

He's never mentioned. I only think Ritsuko had one because Naoko is clearly a woman who fucks and smirks at her daughter spouting off all asexual.

I'm here for the aesthetic anyway.