>I cant be friend with you i cant trust you Hashirama >ok we are friends >betrayed >I cant trust you to form a Village >ok I'll form a Village >Hey I've dedicated everything to the village why are you treating me like shit >Hey fellow uchiha let's ask for what we were promised to equal treatment and peace >nah fuck off >ok fine I leave myself >Uchiha gets genocided >Senjuu are also extinct now >ninja world is still in a state of not only perpetual war but now instead of clan skirmishes is great powers in total war.
Konoha was an abject failure and Madara was right. The only thing the Uchiha did wrong was not commencing a coup fast enough.
Reminder that Tobirama did everything wrong > Killed Izuna.If it wasn't for Tobirama, Madara's greatest source of pain and the reason why he unlocked his EMS would have been avoided >Madara not being chosen as Hokage.If it wasn't for Tobirama Senju going against Hashirama's wishes and making the position vote-based, Madara would have been established as the first Hokage. >Madara coming back. Tobirama took Madara's corpse for his research on the Sharingan which gave Madara the chance to keep his powers and use Izanagi to comeback to life >The Uchiha Revolt. The main reason the clan decided to stage their coup-d'etat was because of the injustice they had to go through because of Tobirama. >The Uchiha massacre. Clan was wiped out all because of Danzo, Koharu and Homaru, 3 of Tobirama's apprentices who he probably brainwashed at some point. > Sarutobi's death and Madara coming back... again. Both of which were caused by the Edo Tensei jutsu that is considered an offense against life and which was developed by none other than Tobirama
Sarada will give birth to new Uchihas, but her husband will be Mitsuki with his Hashirama cells, not the half-blood Hyuga Boruto. New Uchihas will have hax eyes and Hashirama cells, and they finally unite the shinobi world.
How did Obito go from being a reasonably normal kid into a completely unhinged and murderous psychopath?
Noah Murphy
Rin.
Ethan Murphy
Uchiha Incel
Camden Nelson
He decided that life in the ninja world isn't worth it anymore and only through his moon eye plan he could make things right. At least that's how he justifies being a piece of shit to everyone.
No matter how shitty a character Itachi turned out to be I'm still sad his nice, chill persona never got to babysit Sarada on the weekends. Sarada objectively dodged a bullet there though. We know what Itachi does to the people he loves.
James Gutierrez
My canon has been for years that the Curse of Hatred among the Uchiha's is actually a genetic predisposition to mental disorders, justifying their relative ease of slipping into madness.
Jason Ross
It makes no sense, it never did. Kishimoto just wanted a unique antagonist with a surprise twist but didn't have the talent required to make either.
Elijah Sanchez
user that's canon. Not your headcanon. Someone, don't remember who, actually said it in the manga.
Michael Nguyen
Tobirama said it
Adrian Bailey
>Madara was right. That's a load of bullshit.
Austin Reed
i really hate tobirama and its retarded fans. He stood against everything hashirama worked hard for.
dont forget orochimaru pretty much continued where he left.
Daniel Bailey
New theory: Orochimaru made Mitsuki to put a baby in Sarada, once the kid is ready, Mitsuki gives it to papa Oro and he takes the child's body
Evan Gutierrez
When?
Samuel Roberts
well if you were a kid with suddenly extra sensorial powers that mastered genjutsu taijutse and ninjutsu all of the sudden you would also start to get a bit insane.
Colton Wilson
>what Itachi does to the people he loves. Yes, poor Sasuke was mindfucked twice and set on pointless revenge quest. But Itachi is a victim too, Konoha's oldmans brainwashed him. Sarada is new hope for Uchihas.
Except the world isn't in a state of perpetual war now anymore. Naruto, the ninja jesus and his reformed judas Sauce fixed it up. Now they just have to worry about ayyyyyliens.
Eli Martin
Yes, it's her turn. It's time for Uchiha hokage, also last Senju must be killed.
Tobirama's only mistake was not personally genociding the Uchiha when he became Hokage. If the edgy Uchiha shits couldn't integrate themselves into the village even when given a position of power such as being Cops then the issue is with them. Tobirama keeping genetic retards predispositioned to going fucking nutso out of the inner politics was a solid idea.
This. >Uchiha manages to become hokage >only has normal sharingan >some day, he witnesses his most loved person die >gets mangekyo >but is also now batshit insane and in a position of absolute power over a military village filled with ninja who almost 100% obey their hokage If Uchiha weren't such a timebomb, it wouldn't be such a problem.
This I don't blame you for thinking it was a headcanon though. It's ridiculous enough to be.
Lincoln White
Yes, also the Uchiha were hate-fueled by identity politics and cared more about their own groups interests than the interest of their country as a whole. Genocide was necessary because they would have never been appeased and would eventually try to make a power grab or destroy the village in the process.
The Third Hokage was shit. He preserved a false sense of peace without preparing for what was clearly imminent. Both Danzo and Orochimaru would have been better hokages.
please refrain from projecting your degenerate fantasy on my wife Karin
Aaron Hernandez
Tobirama was right all along and Uchiha apologists should all hang. Also Including the Current Hokage who is being puppetted by the jewchiha #NotMyHokage
Don't you agree that the Uchihas deserve reparations for the genocide their people committed by Senju's proteges? Current hokage is doing everything right. #SenjuAreRealVillains #NotAllUchihasTerrorists #UchihaIsAClanOfPeace
>he will do a better job at keeping It is unlikely that Orochimaru still wants to become a Hokage, he is busy with his researches. However, he can help make the world better place, for this he need to resurrect the Second Hokage, and maybe Danzo, those two will unite the shinobi world and will make it great.
why would an uchiha fanboy like orochimaru waste his time in them instead of reviving itachi, the guy with actual guts to make shit happen unlike those losers?
Zachary Thomas
>uchiha fanboy Orochi himself said that he respect Second the most. >those losers What? Current shinobi system is practically Tobirama's invention, and Danzo protected Konoha for decades, also managed to genocide Uchiha scum. Itachi was complete tool who just followed orders and senju propaganda. Those two very effective.
>Orochi himself said that he respect Second the most. he admires his knowledge not his legacy. He only spoke with him once. >What? Current shinobi system is practically Tobirama's invention, a flawed unstable system that only spawns serial killers and psychos since its biased towards the senju. > and Danzo protected Konoha for decades, he didnt do shit, just shitposted in the darkness and brainwashed a bunch of kids like sai >also managed to genocide Uchiha scum. Itachi was complete tool who just followed orders and senju propaganda. speedwatcher much? >Those two very effective. pic related
>he admires his knowledge not his legacy. Still he respect him most. >unstable system that only spawns serial killers There were only three Uchiha terrorists, they did their best to kill them all. >he didnt do shit Killed all the Uchihaniggers, did a bunch shady shit on the side and was boss enough not to worry about kage knowing about it, got wood style back (leaf village but can't into wood style lol), managed to become kinda of Hokage. Dude was based. >speedwatcher much? Itachi killed his family and clan for senju's will of fire, village before clan.
>There were only three Uchiha terrorists, they were created by them. >they did their best to kill them all. and failed.
Lincoln Johnson
>they were created by them. No. Madara was Hashirama's fault, Tobirama wanted to kill him, and Obito was created by Madara. Sasuke went insane because he was mindfucked twice by his older brother. If Tobirama and Danzo didn't protected world from Uchihas, it would be way worse.
>restored >with pink shit in the genes and the only female heir inherited the autism of her parents Unless the Sauce was impregnating someone every time he went to a new place as je wandered the world, the Uchiha are fucked.
Orochimaru might as well be gunning for getting a ayy body in the manga, he was the one who first started the genetics bullshit and Sauske and Naurto beating ninja god might as well have been a justification for everything he did before part 1..
Dominic Foster
Why does Salad wear the glasses? She's got ninja eye hax.
Justin Collins
Wrong, you must fuck the Uchiha
Angel Collins
>ninja Judas is littering the continent with time bomb love children >Sakura raises her only child while trying to supress the fact that her husband is never home >her child is already developing the angst that leads to her husband's crippling genetic insanity >dresses like a skank to boot What a fucking tragedy.
The naruto world would have been much happier if indra and his reincarnations were female.
Joshua White
>that pic
what Kind of evil is that shit
Anthony Ross
Even ninja hitler thought Tobirama was a bad person.
Charles King
Everything wrong with the ninja world stems from the rapid shift away from clans to villages ruled by democratically elected officials. It took Kakashi as the Hokage to make the transition from war to peace,
Dominic Gomez
One world, under Konoha.
Elijah Reed
Danzo was fucking retarded. Like how are you both cowardly and dumb?
Joshua Nguyen
Considering the governance of Kohona, the village never should have existed. Literally everyone in power was either ineffective, stupid, a reactionary coward, or childishly, hilariously naive.
Sebastian Scott
>ineffective, stupid, a reactionary coward, or childishly, hilariously naive.
Amusingly, all these things describe Hiruzen.
Michael Perry
He really was an awful Hokage
Leo Phillips
Madara wouldn’t have left Konaha in this state. He would have made it great again.
Ryan Harris
madara should've been a women and fuck hashirama. their son would have rinnegan and stop every single war by himself.
Lucas Martin
Would she be a yandere for him, still wanting to get his "cells" inside her.
Justin Clark
That’s pretty hot
Joseph White
Just wait until you see how she got them
Parker Green
I think what you just said is the opposite of what you meant to say.
Ethan Collins
Fuck off Narutard
Owen Johnson
Hashirama should've been a girl and married Madara. Then this whole thing wouldn't have happened.
I don't think Sasuke is in it, I think he made this plan because he blew his chance with Sasuke, he's too strong for him now to take down
Tyler Clark
>murders itachi gf trully the coolest guy
Jacob Rogers
>give them employment >authority >their own area of the village >Brother stop persecuting the uchiha And yet the 3rd who was in charge for decades after the 2nd did nothing to better their situation anymore than tobirama did, gets none of the blame, and just says it was Danzo's fault.
How does Kishi want us to view Tobirama? Is this supposed to be more post WWII sentiments of how the United States treated Japan post war. I really don't know how you're supposed to sympathize with the Uchiha, at least from my view. I don't get how it's his fault that people hate authority, so he never should have given them a position of authority, because they're power hungry emotion nigs that everyone hated. Except we never see any hate aimed at them the whole time. Sauske never got the Naruto treatment growing up.
>all of this could have been avoided if one guy got over oneitis
wtf did kishi mean by this?
Jaxon Mitchell
The third made it WAY worse than the second. Tobirama actually gave them a place of prestige in the village by making them the police while Hiruzen straight up used the 9 tails attack to force the ENTIRE clan to live on the outskirts of the village. And after that he gave the go head to genocide them all only a few years later.
Brody Anderson
I thought that was Danzo and Hiruzen's squadmates forcing his hand. Hiruzen was the only one trying to resolve the Uchiha situation peacefully.
user he was still Hokage and a half hearted "let's not do this" is clear ass covering maneuver. Sure we can give him the benefit of the doubt that he would've prefered to find a more peaceful way but at the end of the day if he didn't want it to happen it wouldn't have happened.
Ayden Gomez
3rd had the final say on the matter, he was far to indecisive and relied heavily on the council. The same people who are still going ape shit over Naruto doing what he wants without consulting them for their horrid advice. Really wish Sauske would have killed Danzo and both of those old fucks. I don't get what their authority is other than they were friends with Hiruzen. The fact that they're old doesn't mean that they knew anything more than anyone else; especially when every suggestion they have is a knee jerk reaction. They were outright willing to kill Hiashi for the cloud when the Hiruzen was saying fuck it we'll go to war, before Hiashi's brother sacrificed himself. Overall though the 3rd is far more at fault than Tobirama, but Kishi wanted to put Hiruzen on a pedestal to the point that he invented Danzo just to be the fall guy.
>people in this thread unironically defend the Uchiha You can tell who self-inserts as edgelords who want justification for their edginess.
Aaron Hill
How does a school shooter go from a reasonably normal kid in elementary(obito's age) into a completely unhinged and murderous psychopath when he enters middle school and gets hit hard by reality?
Justin Parker
She was literally obsessed with him, and would let him do anything to her. I bet she still hasn’t had sex because she’s saving herself for Sasuke.
Samuel Gutierrez
>being against genociding women and children that had nothing to do with arguably valid coup attempt is now edginess.
what next I'm gonna be called edgy because I don't throw puppies into rivers?
Caleb Johnson
>Hitler says you did wrong >Ninja Jesus (two different reincarnations) say you did wrong >Even the other kages say you did a bad thing Ok Senjew.
Elijah Bailey
The Uchiha are a disease that deserve to die.
Jeremiah Butler
Reminder that the only reason Tobirama hated the Uchiha is because the qt 3.141 Uchiha he had a crush on got stolen from him.
Hudson Baker
hmmm?
Easton Howard
Tobirama really liked Kagami, but he got married and had children.
I stopped watching right when the big war started in Naruto, but how come literal war criminals like Orochimaru and Sasuke are allowed to live and have offspring in the village?
Kayden Clark
Sasuke didn’t do nuffin
Charles Fisher
They figured killing Oro was too much trouble considering he always comes back
Gavin Turner
>Has to persecute the Jews because his point is indefensible.
Ian Powell
Sasuke is Naruto's friend and he said sorry, Orochimaru decided to help during the war after Sasuke brought him back to life, so he's allowed to do stuff now, but he's still being watched so he doesn't do anything TOO crazy.
Jordan Phillips
yeah... sorry
Kayden Clark
What are you talking about? The Third was based, learn to read between the lines. The Third maintained an a Image of being kind but in reality he knew full well what was going on behind the scenes and completely allowed it >Letting Danzo run Root to do the dirty work he didnt want to have to do >Allowing Orochimaru to escape and continue his pursuit of knowledge >Allowing the Uchiha to be slaughtered knowing it was the only real option and faking the hunt for Itachi to allow him to continue on >Allowing Naruto to suffer to protect the truth and the village >Forcing the Hyuga clan to take a sacrifice The Third was an extremely shady type.
Nolan Wilson
>nothing too crazy
he is literally still experimenting on children and taking their bodies. When Naruto asked about it he told naruto to fuck off. Which he did. Ochimaru and Onions sauce even said no one in the leaf gives a shit about what they do along as it's done seceretly and to other villages not the leaf. They are living nukes that Naruto uses to force through all diplomacy he wants.
Zachary Cox
Eh, could be crazier.
Jackson Edwards
Orochimaru is basically invincible and could cause tons more trouble than he is now.
Jacob Russell
Orochimaru literally explained why giving them police duty and giving them their own area outside the village backfired horribly. Are all Narutards this stupid or is it just you user?
Brandon Sanders
You sure are desperate to samefag your shit thread.
Brayden White
Sasuke pretty much saved the village in The Last movie and saved Nardo's ass from Momoshiki. Sasuke was also hunting criminal scum in the underworld as an adult.
Yes. I doubt Nards would seriously be okay with Orochimaru actually using 'real' people, or clones like Mitsuki for body swapping. He'd not have a problem with Zetsu's dying though.
Mason Scott
Female Deidara would have access to oral sex 24/7...
William Bell
so would male Deidara?
Aiden Rivera
Depends. How 'deep' do the mouths on his hands go? He might not even be able to get half in before it stops.
Isaiah King
even better
Caleb Moore
Madara Uchiha has Borderline Personality Disorder.
She ain t otherwise she would have the rinengan, no?
Juan Miller
she's an Uzumaki, not a Senju
Isaac Barnes
same shit?
Samuel Jones
he looks younger because he is taking kids bodies. He said so himself the first time they met in Boruto
Mason Rogers
Rinengan can be awaken only by mixing Indra and Ashura chakra, so you need Madara/Sasuke chakra/cells + Hashirama/Naruto chakra/cells.
Chase Price
>mixing Indra and Ashura ch when tf did the requirment become hashirama/naruto chakra cells? From what I remember it was senju chakra, I remmeber madara seing that or maybe it was a shitty translation?
>Coolest Guy straightup told Sasuke that 3rd Hokage wasn’t down with that Gas All Uchihas shit >Still decides the whole leaf village needs to be blacked
All Uchihas go fucking full retard. It’s not a matter of if, just how and when. Sarada will probably enter her DARKNESS phase whenever Sasuke dies and it’s somehow Boruto’s fault
Ethan Bennett
how did the sharingan-rinnengan come up? asspull
Hunter Rogers
yes coolest guy was clearly level headed and straight forward with all his answers and actions
Evan Richardson
meant for
Grayson Ward
that one with Orochimaru was the most bullshit thing in an anime, i mean somebody who make experiments on childrens and kill them, has been forgiven because he help them in a war ? same thing happen with some Japanese after ww2 after all, so i'm not surprised
