Yep...Liberio was a good ghetto.
Shingeki No Kyojin
Annie a shit
I miss Yumiru
I rabu Piku.
What is even the point of lh if one will never achieve something as a commander and the other will never kill Zeke/his fights are boring.
They are like the Nicolos for Connie
Kys Benji
Happy Birthday to Jeanbo :D
t. Benjamín Jesús Cruz aka BenChandler aka Muddkippz aka Pedofag aka Mrs Smith aka Urifag aka roastie
Jesus, Ben. Not this early in the thread
I miss Yea Forums's Jean memes.
the value of a character isn't in what they accomplish in-universe. manlet and mikasa especially, they're at their most boring when they're just cuisinarting foes
I can't wait for the anime to adapt this scene in 2021
samefagging EHautist
She's pointing at Yelena.
yumiwho
>He transformed?
Cringe
SnK threads have always been a literal cancerous hotspot for shipfags and faggots
She is pointing at Boyega
Chadren will survive
Yes, since the beginning
Can't wait for next chapter to drop.
Hange is just an interim commander that fills the void left by Erwin, and secondary voice of reason after Armin. Her role is to represent the curiosity and optimism Erwin formerly did but her central problem now is being in over her head. She was at her best when she was unbound by the mantle of leadership and just wanted to understand Titans. Given that there are still a lot of questions around paths, she may yet have a large role in fully revealing the mechanism behind it, going into the origin of the Titan "curse"
That's my take on Hange Zoe.
She´s pointing at us...
Enought time to meet his baby and say good bye to his precious freedom aka Historia
Frankly, I find the idea of an island devil that thinks offensive!
I'd say she may also help manlet with his trauma and learn more about Historia/farmer and how the serums affect an Ackerman
She's pointing at UMI DA!
I hope they end up together. I want to face my fears of them not and have faith that they will love each other as is deserved.
We have always been at war with Eurasia.
Fuck Marley and fuck all Honorary Marleyans
No you.
You should have taken the blue pill, Gabi
Pretty much. The cancer never left, it just took different forms.
I didn't buy the Eren and his follower Gabo at first but after this chapter I'm starting to believe it. She saw that they were not devils and even Sasha's family allowed her to live. Even if she loves Pieck what she did to that people was terrible, even gassing an entire village.
Pieck and the others knew they were innocent yet they did that. Worse she never told her the truth and was going to get cancer for a big lie
i hope the anime does these shots and sequences justice
Thank god we get an early chapter this month so I don’t have to wait very long to see pieck get CHOMPED.
Since when did this piece of shit of a general become infested with tumblr/reddit shite. I mean it's a free website, but if you're gonna come here you better fucking assimilate to the board's culture you fucking shits.
Same. Can't wait to see this whole arc animated in 2036.
we love you too user
gas the faggots though
>Mods
>Since when
Your new is showing something fierce
Your posts trying to get (you)s are even more cancerous, you repeat as much
What's the point of Gabi's character? 26 chapters since her introduction and I still don't see a reason for her character to exist.
>on-topic memes are verboten
>how DARE Yea Forums practice any sort of creativity anymore... we stamped that out years ago!
>just enjoy your little ghetto and don't you dare try to synthesize any OC!
There was something about the way Eren mentioned how Gabi didn't trust Pieck either, and I don't think he meant Gabi briefly doubting Pieck's loyalty to Marley. But that Gabi also suspected Pieck was leading Eren to a trap.
Then your reading comprehension isn't very good at all, is it.
HENSHIN GA?
Gabi is going to betray Marley's warriors in part for Falco, but also because she's lost faith in Marley. This chapter cemented it.
We already have enough eldians from Marley who hate the people from Paradis. Reiner has already fulfilled the role of someone who realises the flaw in Marley's teachings. We don't need another character for that very same purpose.
Those first two post are barely some seconds apart though.
>Since when
Just leave and only check here for spoilers and new chapters like I do. Take care not read their posts too. These thread just caught my eye since they removed the nigger OP image. Which is furhter proof it got hijacked.
Yeouch. Yeah, you might wanna take another stab at that, speedy.
>n-no you're the newfag
I haven't come here regularly since 2013. And even 3 years ago it wasn't this fucking cancerous and you'll get smoked out if you even hint at coming from tumblr.
We get it user, repeat it 500 times more this year
Gabi is going to inherit the female titan, lad
There used to be meaningful discussion. But you're right, the shipfaggotry was prevalent even back in chapter 50. 'Cept people weren't outright parroting reddit/tumblr opinions.
They're doing it to mine the (You)s but still.
Parallels reinforcing themes by turning them around. Passing the torch, future generations not repeating the same mistakes. Seeing the transition from an ideology of hate born of ignorance to growth through realization. Lots of narrative functions for the Gabogirl (and Falco to an extent) that Reiner can't do. Why do you hate characters, user?
There is not even any shipping in this thread, nice contribution you got there
>it wasn't this fucking cancerous
Sure sure, we believe you
Both of these come from a Florida IP
How can you be awake 24/7?
I seriously don't get these kind of posts, I follow many mangas and there is shipping too but people usually ignore them , reply to serious discussion or just abandon the threads. I swear I see your kind of posts everyday, I can't understand how can you act susprised every time, it's like seeing a grandmother discovering Yea Forums every time
Monkey trouble memes and Frodo posting and Jean posting were art damn you! And Serumbowl was the very HEIGHT of decorum I say! Back then we had CLASS. The endless shitposting during uprising, and Gesumin and molester-kun and YH faggotry in every thread. God, those halcyon days!! Would that we could have someone like Mrs. Smith back, oh dear now I'm all flustered, excuse me.
>Seeing the transition from an ideology of hate born of ignorance to growth through realization.
>Two brats will change the thinking of a nation
based paranoid user thinks the countless sane people calling him out on his bullshit are all one person
>we're all one person
What did you mean by this?
Not him, bur you're assuming it's always the same user complaining, which obviously isn't. Personally I don't follow any manga that is as bad snk in terms of shifags, but I think the issue is that because of the current manga pacing and shit storyline we're gone from interesting discussions and observations to mostly retarded predictions and circlejerking
You're the only one obsessed with Florida, and that was my first post and the counter went up, based paranoid
That was in regards us, the audience, witnessing that change through Gabi herself. Gave further meaning to Sasha's unfortunate death as well, additionally reinforced by a Marleyan falling for her. Themes, user, they are hardly subtle, but I find them enjoyable. I'm sort of sorry you don't.
Finally good sarcasm. Based
but that wasn't me user
honestly have no idea what this Florida meme is about and frankly I don't really care
As opposed to your favorite part, when the predictions and circlejerking were a tour de force. But then there were people saying the same shit you are right now then, too.
Same shit. Different day. Every fucking time.
>people unironically rooting for racetraitors because muh waifu
Why do you type like that?
Gabo saw that it was Marley the one who created the devil. Too bad upset Mikasafags and other tumblrinas can't understand the dilemma of this manga
>asks how can you be awake 24/7
>replies
>no that's not me
Retard
I just want Jean to be okay.
x was never good is a meme for a reason
t. fossilfag
>interesting discussions and observations
Kek
>when the predictions and circlejerking were a tour de force
Idek what you mean? In what sense?
Because he comes from leddit
So what have you been doing here if the conversation was always shit in your opinion, don't you have better ways to waste your time?
Same reason you ask stupid questions. I'm being condescending. I like your method more though, it's low effort and cute.
this might blow your mind so be prepared
did you know you can reply to a post which isn't directed at you? it is one of the many freedoms offered by this imageboard format, luckily for you it is anonymous so you can keep shitting up threads
godspeed user
>he comes from leddit
>Idek
Not really, but if anyone would know it's you, off-site.
They also forget what Piku and the others did. They have resources, they can transform, they were always going to be used for political reasons. Eren has a point. I can understand Pieck reasons, but siding with people Mikasa just because of muh feelings is too retarded.
What about Historia and her children's feelings? What about the rest of Paradis feelings?
reddit tier response.
Obsessed with reddit. Maybe you should go back.
>serious discussion
>REEEEEE WHY IS THERE SHIPPING IN Yea Forums I WANT TO WRITE 50 POSTS COMPLAINING
kys
I'm sorry you feel that way.
>but siding with people Mikasa just because of muh feelings
Mikasa is not people
With people like Mikasa*
Don't lie, you felt like I was addressing you because you're perched here 24/7 like your Florida obsessed mate. Godspeed to you and your autism
>t-that wasn't me
Again Ymirfag?
The only one who posts here 24/7 is you Benji, you degenerate mentally ill subhuman creatura spicnigger.
So how will Pieck get free of Gabi and transform? Porco bites her arm off? I figure her panzer gear is loaded in one of those airships, so she can't stay stuck for long.
You cannot have serious discussion about a Naruto/Berserk/Evangelion tier shonen (a combo of 3 dogshit shonen) which is primarily popular because it is pushing SJW politics in Japan (6 gorillion, transsexual nigger males pretending to be white women, dogwhistling to the LGBTQPAIZ degenerates, pushing feminist fantasies, etc).
Naruto had more to talk about than this Redditcuck appeal shit.
cart titan is pretty useless on its own all things considered, but Porco should be able to break that chain without chopping either of them in half
If one titan holder doesn't make it out of this next battle alive who will it be and how will Falco react to inheriting them?
i haven't been here since 4 months ago, i just get back at these threads recently. But as far as I know discussion have been always mixed up with shitposting regardless of how bad/good the arc at issue is. Since ever.
Reiner is toast this time for real, and Falco will loathe fighting and this whole situation with Marley even more than he already does. And he'll get even more protective of Gabi.
>i haven't been here since 4 months ago
And you just complain in a thread that has actual discussion?
Who are the most based /snk/ fans and why are they slavs?
Manlet will have to deal with being a "useless" soldier with PTSD. Hange will probably be the one to remind him he is more than a soldier and to stop being autistic and hating himself for it.
Then you have the whole discovering the rest of the information Historia may be hiding
I think you misunderstood me. I'm not the tantrumfag.
Do I count as slav if I am from Moldova? We are surrounded by slav countries and have slav culture but are technically of Roman descent..
The based shitposters who drink lolcow tears
Gabi is the Eren of the other side. A big theme of this manga is the cycle of violence, so Marley having an equivalent to Eren and friends is an important factor to demonstrate equivalence, in demonizing the enemy and loss of loved ones.
That would be Reiner. Gabi will be the one who joins Paradis
Gabi too. Reiner even saw Gabi and co. as the BRAM of the upcoming generation, which means both of them represent much of the same things in different ways. In Gabi's case, she shares a Shiganshina event with Eren, which was a very very obvious parallel, along with her being ragetard 2.0 (she's growing out of it though)
Ceci est un canon
gabi was positioned as much closer to an eren-like figure in terms of personality, fanaticism, and general role in the narrative (at least at first) while reiner is paralleled with eren by virtue of shared experiences and the odd bond of understanding between them. reiner's characterization isn't mirrored or directly analogous with eren's, with things like his complex about his father, his attempts to cope with guilt and his desire to loose himself and to belong not really having equivalents in eren.
Who will win their next fight?
No Contest due to Armin run-in
Reiner deserves just one fight where he has the clear upper hand and doesn't job out immediately. He'll get his one big moment where he's the shining star, the manga will have fulfilled the promise of ER meeting again, and then Reiner can finally die with a shred of dignity and pass his torch and titan to Falco, or maybe Porco, or Colt somehow on an outside chance.
Reiner. I say that because of how their previous fight left off, and Reiner is clearly the underdog this time around
>people actually think reiner will get the sweet release of death.
Oh you poor souls
What is the point of Annie anymore? Is it just to show that Bert still has a small amount of influence in Armin's head?
Nah Reiner will become new Ymir Fritz while holding hands with Eren.
>this will never ever happen because Isayama panders too much
wasted potential
Well, the manga is going to tank if it doesn't have at least one best girl.
Magath will toss down some bolt cutters and a rope ladder for Gabi. Then she'll crash his airship with no survivors.
Rico isn't dead.
There will be a cure for Titan aids but only Reiner will ever get it.
We are lucky
he panders too much in the wrong areas and not enough where it's needed
i wish the paradis dress uniform looked more like that desu, the one they have seems too modern and drab for the tech level and general society. though, all the fashion kinda had an out of place vibe at first, especially the cuts
it's all in the visual pottery, user
user...
Biggest redpill itt thread.
>biggest redpill in this thread thread
based?
Why the fuck was it deleted? Those thumbnails are allowed on Yea Forums.
is snk redditcuck?
Chink planes vs Marley blimps when?
When the little surprise they have comes to light.
How the fuck did Marley sneak 5 blimps in the middle of the walls with nobody noticing? Those things aren't exactly discreet
>In the middle of the walls
They are in Shiganshina, at the edge of the walls
This has a lot of potential but I feel Isayama is going to fuck it up.
Oh right
Still, they should have noticed before the actual attack
This is one of the greatest series ever made in anything though user, put the keyboard down.
It's already better than they were doing honestly
I barely even know what this manga is about anymore.
Sins of the fathers/ancestors.
Isayama doesn't feel comfortable with characters that are shipped/potentially shipped (my theory), he could pull that Eren vs Hange well but just look at things like Nicolo and Sasha. Even if EH is finally confirmed I can see it will be in the most ambiguous and lazy way. I don't know how many more times are we going to see Historia sitting in the chair
I guess Gabo and Falco are exceptions for not being classic characters
Do you guys remember what day is it today?
EHfags are mentally ill.
Pixis has the only telescope.
>EH is the antichrist for obese SJWs
Based
Anyone who treats this series like a harem comedy and spends way to much time shipping characters as if that's important are mentally ill.
So most of the people in these threads.
Nut inside the best girl for half the usual price day.
probs flew in the clouds
>Check the archive for the deleted image
>Yea Forums memes
I remember when you faggots blasted people for being obvious Yea Forumsirgins.
How lewd will their fight be?
>obese SJWs
EremikaHaven?
"Yeah, I support based Marley. How could you tell?"
Not lewd enough
>Gabi: I'm sorry, Miss Pieck!
>*pushes her to Titan Falco's mouth*
As usual there will be lots of grappling, but this time Eren will incorporate some toys. And then this ancient foreshadowing will finally come into play big time, leading to a major climax.
Let's recap ZY's retarded plan:
>make all eldians sterile through paths
>the population ages and they will all eventually die miserably when they can no longer provide food and resources for themselves
>make Historia have a kid so that they can continue the royal bloodline and use the rumbling if needed, while rando eldians inherit the FT
>the rumbling as a threat won't matter anyway because they'll all be old and starving and unable to take care of themselves and piss and shit all over and likely catch the plague or something
Why? Is this the best Isayama could do?
Notice how the Marleyan Fallschirmjägers are equipped with autorifles, which are perfect for killing of 3DMshits. Now that they know what they're up against, I think the Marleyan troops are gonna do much better
Happy birthday Jean boy!
Why do you keep saying they'll be starving? They won't be completely isolated, they have allies and some means of resisting invasion and are extremely resource rich. Are you acting retarded on purpose?
>Reiner will be raped by the WHT
Is this kino, /snk/?
Wow, I didn’t expect Reiner to be the one taking it up the ass. Isayama always finds a way to subvert our expectations!
>A rich land full of weak old geezers nobody cares about
>"they will be fine"
yeah man. paradropping into a hostile city is clearly a good idea. NOT
Was Historia getting pregnant so soon necessary?
Where is that pic with Reiner showing his anus? The one Isayama did
>they have allies
Who, Kiyomi? So would Hizuru's job be to provide the ageing population with food?
>are extremely resource rich
When the population start to age, they'll get sick. There will be no one left to be able to provide services such as healthcare and food, because they'll be too old and weak to do it. Read about the impact an ageing population has on services and the economy instead of acting retarded on purpose
>the rumbling as a threat won't matter anyway because they'll all be old and starving and unable to take care of themselves and piss and shit all over and likely catch the plague or something
Of course it's still a threat. You don't need to be young to activate it... Only when the last two Eldians finally die will it not be a threat. Of course, then the last Eldian would have to have all 7 titan powers...
Yes, farmer couldn't control himself
She needed to get pregnant before Zeke did his sterilization, otherwise they couldn't maintain the royal bloodline for 100 years
>So would Hizuru's job be to provide the ageing population with food?
Provided they inherit Paradis? Yes, of course....
What I meant is that at that point they'll be old and weak, and living in terrible living conditions that they might as well prefer being taken out by other world's powers. Zeke's "gentle" euthanazia is incredibly cruel and incredibly stupid
So Hizuru would take it upon themselves to take care of these old folks like if they were nurses in an old people's home? Can't you see it's unrealistic?
>Zeke's "gentle" euthanazia is incredibly cruel and incredibly stupid
Look man you can't do much for the people that have already been born... would actively killing them be less cruel?
>Can't you see it's unrealistic?
Why? With the promise of all the iceburst stone in the world, there's no problem.
A bigger problem for me is what is going to happen to all of those wall titans. Aren't they Eldians?
1 rumbling wasn't enough!
Unironically, yes. Stopping their hearts would be kinder than letting them die in misery
Because you're assuming that Hizuru would care about the ageing population instead of doing what's best for their economic interest, which certainly isn't to cater to old, dying eldians
>those wall titans
yes
Are people really saying this? Don't visit these threads that much anymore but is painfully obvious Eren was the one who impregnated her but better not start again
This, it was less cruel.
So basically, trade doesn't exist and they have to be completely cut off and isolated, as some unwritten rule. You're desperate to find flaws so you decided those things without thinking. When really, as long as they control the rumbling to ensure MAD, they'll never be invaded (), and as long as they have friendly nations anywhere in the world they can buy whatever they need, including good as well as services well into the population's old age. Which means AT WORST Paradis would be a glorified, but extremely well funded, retirement village.
Furthermore, once its clear that Eldians are becoming extinct everywhere, the hatred of them will naturally decrease as they'll be paying the ultimate price for the old empire's crimes. Meaning more people won't mind dealing with them and even less urgency to invade. At that point it'll be a matter of nations squabbling over who will inherit the island in the next several decades when they're all gone. it's not perfect but it's not guaranteed to fail either. More importantly, this plan doesn't factor in personal pride, which is why it has your nuts in a twist needing it to be horrifying and impossible; but Zeke doesn't think pride matters at all, thus the nature of this plan and why you're trying your best to poke holes.
Yes, otherwise Zackley would have Historia eat Zeke and make her permanently pregnant for 13 years, a kid after another.
>Mikasa will break her limiter!
>Jean needed to point the obvious that Eren must have a good reason for acting like that
You know is just sad that Mankasa is as relevant as Annie
>Eren was the one who impregnated her
Stop reading fanfics.
>only my own children can take care of me in my old age
Spoken like a true third world poorfag.
>>Mikasa will break her limiter!
cringe
>trade
No one wants to trade with them, other than Hizuru. So basically Zeke's plan is to hand them over to Hizuru, whose sole interest is to enrich themselves by exploiting Paradis' resources.
>the hatred of them will naturally decrease
This is quite the assumption. If anything like you say they'd be squabbling over who will take over, and they'd continue treating them like animals. It's a terrible way to die, and not clever either
Actually, sorry I'm kind of confused, can someone explain why couldnt pieck just shoot eren in the head?
I'm a middle class English I'll have you know, and should learn how to read. Why would Hizuru have any interest in ageing eldians when all they want is to exploit Paradis as to make Hizuru economically stronger? Do you have any idea the amount of resources needed to take care of old people who will also get sick?
*you should learn
Mikasa will never break her limiter because Jeanbo ruined it
>no one but Hizuru
And the volunteers and their homelands freed from Marleyan rule, and private industry or anyone else interested in iceburst stone.
>This is quite the assumption
This, coming from the person insisting that Zeke's plan amounts to all remaining Eldians shitting themselves to death alone in a closet.
I see this is a waste of time. It won't happen that way anyway so it's all academic. So no need for you to get upset over them not having kind grandchildren to go fish or wipe their asses or whatever else no one else would ever do, no matter how much money and rare minerals was offered.
wouldn't kill him. he'd just use shifter nonsense to live
she also tried to get some information from him even though he didn't really fall for that.
now he's out in the open where they have a better chance of outright killing him.
we know that's not what Marley's mission is anymore regarding him, but that's what Eren thinks still. he might STILL think that by the end of the chapter, who knows.
Read slower please.
>we know that's not what Marley's mission is anymore regarding him
Explain why the whole surprise attack plan was for Porco to eat him, and why Pieck didn't immediately head shot him (that would kill him, no shifter nonsense there).
How about you? Magath literally said it's cool to kill the FT
what the fuck are you talking about? we literally know from back at Liberio that they are not longer concerned about capturing the Founding Titan. Magath literally says this.
read slower? you didn't read at all, stupid fuck
>Explain why the whole surprise attack plan was for Porco to eat him
first of all if porco ate him whole, then Eren could just Shift out of him like he did his very first time he Shifted
2nd if he ate him, that would go against what Eren assumes to be their mission: capturing him. if porco ate him then that would be 4 titans consolidated into 1 person (one of which would be the founding titan) and that's not what theoretically Marley would want, according to Eren.
>Pieck didn't immediately head shot him (that would kill him, no shifter nonsense there)
yes shifter nonsense, you remember reiner's head exploding? I'm pretty sure Eren would be able to use shifter nonsense to survive a bullet to the brain.
And where does it state that Eren can survive getting his brains blown out? Nowhere, because that's made up retarded bullshit. Like so many of these stupid fucking posts. And why did Pieck try to lure him into getting eaten by Pock? To NOT inherit the founder, you drooling imbecile? Stop posting.
AUUUF DER HEIDE BLUHT EIN KLEINES BLUUUUUMELEIN
*bum bum bum*
UND DAS HEIST
*bum bum bum*
EEEEEEEEEERIKAA
*bum bum bum*
Why would they need to maintain the royal bloodline? Aren't they afraid someone will use the founder again to reverse the sterilization?
BASED DOUBLE DUBS
First of all you're a moron, Porco wasn't trying to eat him whole he was trying to crush him in his jaws. Second of all you're far too fucking stupid to keep arguing so insistently.
>Reiner can do it so everyone can and thus Pieck would assume this without actual evidence
You're an embarrassment.
>The commander literally ran away with a half dead guy that may not get healed in days
>And where does it state that Eren can survive getting his brains blown out?
when REINER'S HEAD FUCKING EXPLODED AND HE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A FUCKING BRAIN AT ALL
>And why did Pieck try to lure him into getting eaten by Pock? To NOT inherit the founder, you drooling imbecile? Stop posting.
if they take on the founding this way, then that's a bonus. they are not there for this. Did you forget WHY THEY ARE THERE? DID YOU FORGET WHAT HAPPENED IN LIBERIO?
of course you did because you didn't even know what Magath said. you didn't read it.
hmmm
Eren is a brainlet
>Porco wasn't trying to eat him whole he was trying to crush him in his jaws.
>why the whole surprise attack plan was for Porco to eat him
these are two very opposite things that you have said. make up your fucking mind.
>A shifter has been shown to to use a technique to survive what should be instant death
yes.. of course she should assume that any of them can do this
you're a god damned retard that didn't even fucking read the story
why are you in this thread if you didn't read it? fuck off.
Isn't it quite the asspull that Eren doesn't remember eating his own father?
Eren didn't know their new national policy. he'll know soon enough I guess.
He remembered eventually
i have a bullshit hypothesis that Grisha fucked with his memories because he had technically unlocked using the Founding Titan abilities by technically touching a Royal Titan (while eating her)
user explain to me again what's Marley going to do with Eren? Kill him or capture him?
kek'd and checked
kill him
capturing him would be a bonus. much like how Eren gaining the WHT was a bonus in his mission, it just kinda happened.
I really hate that we got spoiled by the porco reveal, before this scene, kind of ruins it. it was still excellent but fuck, i think i'm going to ignore these threads during spoilers and wait for the full chapters.
Did you not read 116? they need the royal bloodline to continue and to pass the FT to other eldians as to sustain the threat of the rumbling, as per ZY and I'm guessing Kyiomi's plan
I'm sorry you feel that way
Not him but then maybe one of them would fix them
Why shouldn't Pieck just quietly shoot him while she got the chance, why bother luring him to the roof and not being sure if Porco would make it?
Then there's a possibility that someone will use the Coordinate to reverse the sterilization
>Reiner
Isn't Eren. Or Pieck for that matter, or Zeke who just nearly died.
>that's a bonus
If their mission was to just kill him, they had the chance. Pieck said it herself before setting up that whole situation for Porco to take a shot at eating him and securing the founder. But killing him is a last resort, they still want the founder. God damn this is tiresome.
>crushing him in his jaws isn't eating him, only swallowing him whole is
I'm convinced you're pretending to be retarded and trolling. I don't know why, but maybe you think it's funny. I don't.
Also, Pieck should assume every shifter, including her, can do everything other shifters can do, even though they don't, and are never stated to be able to. Quite the contrary they are directly stated not to be able to, and shown with Pieck herself and Zeke recently. So they can't, Pieck doesn't have reason to believe that, you fucking idiot.
That poster is a stunning retard.
>fanfics
user this much desperation isn't good for your health.
This chapter is more proof that shit posters are autistic brainlets and continuously make themselves out to be idiots crying about spoilers they don't understand.
>Why didn't piecke shoot eren, in the back of the head? BAd wRITINg!
chapter comes out and explains this.
>Why didn't they notice the blimps! BaeD WrITinG!
The blimps where above the clouds, and descended for the smoke.
I know there was more, but i honestly don't remember every retarded thing they said, i'm going to have to start taking SS. Anyways the trend continuous, shit posters btfo by the actual chapter for the 100th time.
>I'm retarded and read at a third grade level
I think wan piss is more your speed buddy
Dump it.
>Zeke who just nearly died.
Zeke literally got rebuilt by some Loli Sand Goddess, are you REALLY questioning the capability of these monsters?
Once we see something happen in this story, assume it can/will happen again.
>But killing him is a last resort, they still want the founder.
Magath, literally said... they don't.
you didn't fucking read the god damn story you FUCKING RETARD.
>I'm convinced you're pretending to be retarded and trolling.
YOU LITERALLY SAID TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, EITHER HE'S EATING HIM OR HE'S NOT. MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND YOU GOD DAMNED RETARD
>
Also, Pieck should assume every shifter, including her, can do everything other shifters can do, even though they don't, and are never stated to be able to. Quite the contrary they are directly stated not to be able to, and shown with Pieck herself and Zeke recently
what in the HOLY FUCK are you blabbering about? you have literally lost your retarded mind.
>Why shouldn't Pieck just quietly shoot him while she got the chance
no guarantee it would actually kill him, have you read this story as well?
also, as stated above, she clearly wanted to question him for information. she didn't really get any, but she tried. she can't do that if hes "dead"
Same as always, small country of walled city fights against and impossible oppressive force.
Why didn't Eren tell AMJC about Zeke's plan if he knew about it? I know he wants to protect everyone but rebelling against the military, killing the higher ups doesn't seem to be the best option either. Not to mention many are in danger of turning into titan by drinking Zeke's semen.
>Why didn't Eren tell AMJC about Zeke's plan
Because Eren supports Zeke and the plan.
>Eren supports Zeke and the plan
He literally said it himself.
RE will have anger-fueled kissu next chapter.
you can tell when one person is lying in this story: Eren, and when another isn't: Magath.
I want to kill myself
>"He is trying to kill himself"
Yawnnnn... Can we talk about ship? For me? it's AA
>lying
k
By eating him I obviously meant in a way that takes his titan power you obnoxious dimwitted fuck. Jesus Christ, it's like you're TRYING to be dense.
>Magath said magath said
Stop whining about that and pay attention to what actually fucking happened! You sit there and MAKE SHIT UP ON YOUR OWN about how every Titan can diffuse their nervous system and consciousness which is something only the armored has been shown to do, and furthermore WITH ZERO EVIDENCE insist that Pieck believes Eren can so this, without Eren himself ever suggesting it, when again no one but the armored has. You an overly loud STUPID person clinging to your own retarded dipshit assumptions like a security blanket, misinterpreting the fucking information right in front of you because you're too much of a bitch to admit you're wrong. You're fucking WRONG. You dumb piece of shit.
You're retarded, the only old people would be the eldians.
Zekes men, and nipland/other countries who got in early/have ties will now have a massive resource filled landmass to themselves, as the original population lives in peace.
It's a win win, the eldians no longer live in persecution, and the world won't have to fear the titans anymore.Of course some groups get the short end of the stick, but that's to be expected, on the other hand someone like Zekes, see's not being born into this world as some kind of salvation so even then he feels the eldians are the real winners in the end.
>Yelena x Ellen
For me, it's RE. The best shingeki no ship.
>I want to kill myself
STOP!
user it's not my fault that you lack basic reading comprehension. Eren has literally become the enemy of the world in his attempt to protect Paradis. Making eldians sterile would a fate worse than death. Eren would never accept that.
For me, it's MA.
AA is endgame.
Zekes plan is to 'save' eldians by never letting them be born in the first place.
He just wants the pre-existing eldians a peaceful way out of this world.
>they'd continue treating them like animals. It's a terrible way to die,
Yelena and hizuru have never treated them like animals, the fact that she blew that one guys brains out for ever uttering the "devils" line, is testament to how serious she is about the whole respecting eldians thing.
For me, I want to die.
I remind you this is the level of most of Isayama's readers.
>"He is trying to kill himself"
>"Activate quantum immortality"
LH is the comfiest for me
Bert literally said himself that him and Reiner came from some village in Wall Maria that was attacked by titans and look how that turned out. See how stupid you sound?
Pieck and Porco busted out all the hundreds of Marleyans in the internment zone before they went to Shiginshina. They're getting surrounded as we speak.
For me, same.
I like LE
Porco can't eat anything whole, he has too many teeth.
THe only reason they RESORTED to trying to kill him in lebirio, is because they where forced back to plan B, C, D and F with his surprise attack.
The number 1 objective has always been to gain the founding titan for themselves, if that fails THEN they must kill him as a last resort.
This is why piecke doesn't shoot him off rip, there's still a chance they can steal his titan.
Keep in mind it took them 100 years to even get the chance to take the FT, it makes no sense for them to throw all of that away.
Why are you suddenly saying this here?
Either it can't be reversed and it's a one way street, or ZY haven't thought about it. Or maybe their plan is to pass the FT to trusted subjects of Ymir, under Kiyomi's guidance. Regardless the continuation of the royal bloodline and titan inheritance is part of the plan
>The commander literally escaped her captures and saved humanities greatest soldier.
>enemy of the world
Exactly, he's ready to kill even old comrades as was seen in the manlet's case.
>If one person lied, everybody lies
So Erwin was also lying about his father?
bbecause I want to die.
what is this supposed to mean? He wont' turn into a titan, correct, because his body will be too busy auto-healing his brain: much like REINER'S EXPLODED HEAD.
>what actually happened
I saw what happened, they tried to kill him. consuming his titan would be a secondary bonus if they really even bother to care.
you didn't read Marley Arc, obviously, because it seems you have zero idea as to why they are even there.
>You sit there and MAKE SHIT UP ON YOUR OWN about how every Titan can diffuse their nervous system and consciousness which is something only the armored has been shown to do
why are you assuming it's only a Reiner exclusive thing? I can easily assume any of them can do it because it doesn't say they can't. your the one stretching in your belief it's an Armored Titan exclusive.. which doesn't make any sense it has nothing to do with Armor.
>You're fucking WRONG
prove it. you've been wrong the whole fucking time because you clearly didn't read Marley Arc and you clearly didn't know what Magath said. You thought their mission is to retake the Founding. that is not why they are there. You literally don't understand anything. I feel sorry for you.. but not really because it's more fun to gloat over how stupid you are.
SnK isn't the most complex story around but holy shit what did it do to deserve such a braindead fanbase?
>Why didn't Eren tell AMJC about Zeke's plan if he knew about it?
Because it was risky, and probably Eren plans to do something else that he couldn't share with others. Or maybe it's just angst
He does remember eating his own father.
Paths memories are triggered, by transforming.
He literally starts to see those memories after his second transformation, and two months after his first transformation remembers everything
My guess is when Yelena contacted him at that railway ceremony the wine had already been spread, meaning the current military would be sitting ducks regardless of what he does. If there was the slightest suspicion Eren didn't want the euthanasia I'm sure Yelena and even Zeke would make arrangements to have Eren eaten by someone loyal to them once they take control of the government, so it's important that they believe him.
Also, having men like Floch who aren't committed to the euthanasia plan and are simply being nationalistic hastily take over the government gives Eren more leeway since ZY aren't in complete control of Paradis. Taking the old military as hostages doesn't work on these young revolutionaries who just look up to Eren.
Because who doesn't want to ironically die in the year of 2k19
They still cant maintain it for 100 years if both Hisu and her kid have to inherit the BT to be able to use the Coordinate. At best Paradis will have less than 30.
They'd like to capture the Founding Titan.
If this proves to be impossible, they will kill the founding titan.
>resorted
>throwing it all away
Capturing the Founding is not a priority anymore, don't you get it?
>This is why piecke doesn't shoot him off rip, there's still a chance they can steal his titan
I've explained to you several times as to why she didn't, it seems like you also don't know how to read.
yea but every other shifter remembered immediately. eren is the only one because of plot that conveniently forgets
He wanted to believe.
>Zeke is naked
>Yelena and Pieck are there
They are going to rape Zeke and carry his babies
What's the point if they're only able to maintain the Coordinate (Rumbling) for less than 30 years?
>Historia will be a titan for only 13 years
>Her only child will be another royal titan for another 13 years (after sterilization, Historia won't bear children anymore)
So a total of 26 years. Why couldn't they force Zeke to produce more royal?
>Chadmin is hiding his laughter on free vasectomy
This is the moment he realised there is no way that Eren is on Zeke's side.
Mark my words, he will back him up later.
>Paths memories are triggered, by transforming.
false
Rod/Historia fuck with his memories when they touch him, was in human form in chains
also when he was in the prison cell recounting various memories, he was clearly in human form and it was obvious it had been a while since his last transformation.
This is why retarded people shouldn't be allowed to read or discuss anything.
You can only ever take a characters statement as true if it's said under the context that they have no reason to lie. For example in a internal monologue a character will be 100% honest with themselves.
We've yet to see what eren is thinking this entire time for a reason dipshit, off that alone you should assume his hiding his true intentions, isayama literally has jean spell it out for autistic retards like you, and you STILL decided to look stupid ITT, fuck you.
Erwin was smart, why the hell is his fanbase so full of retarded people?
>peaceful
But it's not peaceful, what's hard to understand about this? ZY are mental and have convinced themselves what they're doing is right, but they're delusional
>Yelena and hizuru have never treated them like animals
Yelena
>poisons all their higher ups
>encourages a civil war
>encourages their puppet queen to become breeding stock for the continuation of the royal bloodline
Hizuru
>literally only exploits them for their resources
>once the sterilisation is done they'll be in charge and rich
>encourages their puppet queen to become breeding stock for the continuation of the royal bloodline
You can't be this fucking retarded to think Eren agrees with Zeke when their ideologies are completely opposed to each other. Have you even bothered looking at the paneling of their convo in Marley?
Reiner is attached to a Titan, so he can't do shit
>He wont' turn into a titan, correct, because his body will be too busy auto-healing his brain
Then he's literally unconcious, she and Porco could easily capture him right there
more like it's a bonus if they get it.
it's a priority to kill it and take it out of the equation.
>People have rebelled against the military
>Marley has invaded to capture or kill Eren
>Eldians turning into titan by drinking Zeke's semen
>We have yet to receive the POV of the queen.
Let's be real, the whole "who's the father" plotline is doing more harm than any good to the narrative.
He's right, you know.
also false. Reiner/Bert had trouble recollecting ANYTHING about their predecessors. there could be a variety of reasons for this, who knows.
one of which though is certainly the non blood relation transfer.
>immediately
Uh oh, show me proof or pics where it stated this
It wouldn't be so bad if it was confirmed in 3 chapters but damn, we are going to reach the year at this rate
No, capturing the founding titans has always been a priority.
Marley no longer wants to rely solely on regular shifters, the founding titan is literally god and an entirely different beast. Why don't you understand this?
They all know the founding titans has abilities beyond anything they've seen, capturing the FT if possible is the no.1 priority.
Big words from a little man
theoretically a Shifter is not bound to the sterilization, she could potentially keep popping out kids until her time is done.
after that? i don't know, would an Eldian still be Sterlized AFTER becoming a Shifter? interesting to ponder.
>Conniecucks = tumblr thoughts
>Fight starts between Pokko and Ereh
>Pokko does some initial damage, but gets overpowered by Erenigger's abilities
>Fagren grabs Jaws and prepares to bite into his neck
>Flash in the sky, Reiner falls at mach speed and Elbow-drops Shiteren
>Flash behind Reiner, Annie materializes and grabs Pisseren into a headlock, with Reiner Delivering savage punches from the front
>"Didn't expect company, eh?"
>Marleyan Fallschirmjägers with SMGs parachute down make short work of Jaegershit cadets
>Magath calls in A10 Thunderbolts to finish off Shiganshina
>Meanwhile Rivaille drowns in the river
Now this would be KINO
>theoretically a Shifter is not bound to the sterilization,
Fanfiction.
That's not the plan. The plan is for Historia and her child to inherit nothing, unless they need to use the rumbling to defend themselves. The FT will be given to other chosen subjects of Ymir. The only 2 needed for the rumbling are one royal and the FT, which are going to be passed on to placeholders until the time comes to use them, if ever, for as long as Historia's child is alive. She explains this in the chapter
No they haven't, ymir specifically stats forgetting everything that happened so does grisha
We only ever get to follow the experiences of eren as they happen, for the rest of them we get to learn what happened years afterwards as the reminisce about it.
Your comments are inherently flawed because you're trying to compare two completely different perspectives that where shown to the audience under two completely different context.
>what is that supposed to mean
What it said, retard. Not what you decided on your own.
>they tried to kill him
They tried to have Porco eat him.
>Marley arc
Your reading comprehension is abysmal. Go read it again, and pay attention to context.
>why are you assuming it's only a Reiner exclusive thing?
Because until someone else does it, or someone else is even suggested to be able to do it, it's an ability of the armored titan specifically. The fact that you are literally arguing with a page from the latest chapter only reinforces this.
>Nothing to do with armor
Increased resilience and defense has nothing to do with the defensive titan. This is ridiculous.
So you're going to keep contending that Porco wasn't trying to obtain Eren's titans, that Marley has given up completely on securing the founder, and that every single titan can survive their brain getting destroyed. Did I miss anything? You're a bad joke.
we know Eren is going to fuck over Zeke because it's built up 100+ chapters of him wanting to annihilate his enemies and secure Freedom for his Island.
he's suddenly just going to change? no way.
on the other hand we see other people make very clear statements like Magath: The taking of the Founding Titan is no longer National Policy.
It's easier to believe Magath's blunt statement about this because we have seen it in his character over the course of the story that this isn't something he's likely to lie about.
You mean like forcing Historia and her children to fuck and get cancer?
>speed readers are retarded and have no idea what they are on about
surprising
>Do it now.....Annie!
>Eren utilizes WHT bullshit power
Heh nothing personnel, kid
it's the story:
the Founding Titan cannot do anything to change a Shifter: Control them, Mind Wipe them... Sterilize them...
if it could, we would not have a story. See: Great Titan War, Centuries of Shifter Nobles Squabbling, Freida vs. Grisha.
My guess is neither Yelena nor Zeke honestly give a shit about what happens to Paradisians 30 years from now as long as the plan is enacted and they get Eldians' mass exctinction in the end, cause the way Yelena presented it in this chapter, the baby is just a makeshift solution for Paradis that doesn't even solve the fundamental problem pointed out by Jean.
So if the shifters are still alive after the sterilization, could they produce non-sterilized Eldian babies?
she'd have to drag him out of there like that, easier said than done. Gabi is there to fuck with that situation.
Kill it
Do you remember Reiner's comment about another titan's vital spot. Yeah, he's getting a spike in there this time.
>No, capturing the founding titans has always been a priority.
NOT.. ANYMORE... GOD DAMN READ THE FUCKING STORY
they have a more immediate pressing issue at hand.. did you also forget WHY they are there?
No, paths ARE triggered by transforming.
This statement doesn't imply that this is the only way obviously.
It just needs a trigger or stimulis in general, shit like staying in his titan for two long made him see paths consciously for the first time.
Coming in contact with royal blood also works like a trigger.
It obvious at this point that Isayama is putting the reveal on hold just to get more fujo bucks. None the less it's only affecting the narrative in a negative way.
Eren has only ever reserved those eyes for Reiner. RE is a pairing for the intellectuals.
potentially, or non Eldians to make halfbreeds like Reiner.
It's mind boggling to think of, in order to prevent this you'd need to outright kill them all and force them to go into toddlers so they would also die of shifter aids befor ethey can even biologically reproduce as well, etc.
point is Shifter's won't be stopped by this.
sex with EremikaHaven
So there's only 2 royal people after sterilization, and their only purpose is to become mindless titan to activate Rumbling if there's an invasion? Does Eren know about this too? That Historia and her child literally become a slave after this?
This.
>a makeshift solution
As other anons have pointed out it's effective, as in it does give them the chance to protect themselves through the rumbling if needed, if only as a threat. There are fundamentals issues with ZY's plan, but this isn't one of them. In that sense they'll be safe, unless Historia and her child both die then they'll be fucked, but tough, they tried
Is it me or AMJC don't care that much about Historia (I know they do, but Historia benefits more from Zeke than the opposite)
>No, paths ARE triggered by transforming.
false
Ymir coming out of Mindless Titan, she saw paths
Zeke getting healed in Paths Zone.. he wasn't transforming then either.
I literally just explained why you are wrong and you are doubling down on your retardation. You don't need to transform to see memories. We have literally seen this.
But why? The only fujo pairing alive would be RE and Reiner has not many fans in Japan
Peaceful entails "without violence", you can die peacefully, you can live peacefully, that is the future zeke is selling to the eldians.
Yelena doing whatever to accomplish her goals has nothing to do with discrimination.
Hizurus actions have nothing to do with discrimination either.
As said and reflected by the real world, no plan is perfect and no one has pure intentions, there is much to gain by "saving eldians from being born."
But it's ultimately win win for those that feel being born into this world is a curse in the first place.
>their only purpose is to become mindless titan to activate Rumbling if there's an invasion
Yes
>Does Eren know about this too?
That's probably very likely one of the reasons why he won't let Zeke go through with it
EH and EMfags will deny their bond because of "muh heterosexuality" and "muh healthy relationship"
Even in the west no one gives a shit about RE.
No, eating him is killing him. It makes no sense to kill him and lose the FT whom has god like powers if they could get it for themselves.
It's priority to eat him, otherwise they would've just killed him and never attempted to eat him.
>EH and EMfags will deny their bond because of "muh heterosexuality" and "muh healthy relationship"
I ship RE and EH, and I never saw EMfags hating RE.
Yelena doesn't say what happens to the BT when Zeke reaches his time limit, which is happening within the year. If their plan is to maintain the threat of the Rumbling then he'll obviously have to pass on his power to another royal. Just because the world forces get repelled whenever they decide to attack while Zeke is still alive doesn't mean they can't reform and attack again in a few years time.
Based
>LE, EM, YH
user we already have enough cancer on Yea Forums
No one denies it, but it's 0% gay.
>They tried to have Porco eat him.
if he eats him great, but the priority is to KILL HIM. KILL HIM BY ANY MEANS. WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS.
your response to your failure to read the Marley Arc is to tell me to read it again?
you are one unique retard, they should study your brain after you eventually kill yourself, because being you must be miserable.
>it's an ability of the armored titan specifically
>Increased resilience and defense has nothing to do with the defensive titan.
lmao no it's not. It's not a stat increase it is literally a last ditch effort to not die.. which again has NOTHING to do with having Armor?
you literally continue to pull shit out of your ass that makes absolutely no sense, while you continue to fail to understand the story.
>So you're going to keep contending that Porco wasn't trying to obtain Eren's titans, that Marley has given up completely on securing the founder,
if they get it, good for them, but it is BEYOND CLEAR AND OBVIOUSLY STATED THAT THAT IS NO LONGER THEIR MISSION PRIORITY.
LEARN
TO
FUCKING
READ
YOU
GOD
DAMNED
RETARD
It's also important that you look at the context of the situation in which magath said that.
As I said killing Eren was only the goal, when every other option was impossible.
>FT is no 1 priority, Gabi is a bonus
>And it's actually easy in that situation, the military can't kill a titan with normal guns, exept thunder spear, which needs time to be equipped and open space to use. And Cart titan and Jaw titan are two of the fastest titans, they could easily escape
It's dooming the eldians to a life of misery, there's nothing peaceful about it
Literally, I never saw anyone deny it. Don't mix RE with those leftists arguments kek, denying Eren/Historia or Eren/Reiner is stupid and for speedreaders you know
fuck i think i am missing something
if they stop birth, who then inhabits the country?
He's too dug in to admit he's wrong. He'll just reply with his misinterpretation of Magath's orders while they were in the midst of an attack.
See, moron is repeating himself again already. He wants to be wrong and make shit up, we gotta let him.
Yelena witnessed Eren standing against making Historia a cattle. And Eren is supposed to be on board with Zeke/Yelena now, I'm confused
Those ships are deader than ever
what are you saying, make sense you shit
The BT isn't important. All they need is royal blood and the FT. Like when Eren touched Dina
We're finally going to get a flashback of the first Reiner and Zeke fight and how Reiner lost once Eren jobs horribly and Zeke comes in to save him.
Old Eldians, volunteers and their descendants, paid servants and workers.
Why do you think Hizuru wants to be their only ally and doesn't help them communicate with other nations?
which part?
Eren is lying
He's pretending to be, and they believed him because they're very obviously autistic. Didn't you see Yelena believing the mong after her speech and be moved to tears?
Why are you trying to make us fight against REfags again Ymirfag, they are nice.
Yes, I know but it should be the same to Yelena too
>0% gay
see
>We're finally going to get a flashback of the first Reiner and Zeke fight
Really? Doesn't seem important
When they refer to the titans becoming outdated they can only reference their own titans, not literally the god titan.
The only reason they where told to kill eren in liberio is because they had no other options.
If possibly they'd like to eat him a secure the founding titan, this would make the rumbling null and void.
>He's too dug in to admit he's wrong. He'll just reply with his misinterpretation of Magath's orders while they were in the midst of an attack.
not fucking wrong?
how can you misinterpret something that is so simple?: Reclaiming the Founding Titan is no longer a priority
do you need me to say it again?
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is no longer a priority.
one more time?
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is no longer a priority.
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is no longer a priority.
how many times does it need to be said for you to get it?
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is no longer a priority.
What I wonder is whether Kiyomi is that money hungry to go through with it, or she'll rethink it and help
Yelena has utmost faith in Zeke, and thinks Eren is convinced by Zeke and willing to make sacrifices.
>t. doesn't understand bonds between men
>The lights suddenly go out and music stops
>A lone, cloaked figure walks towards the stage
>The three warriors stop their bullying and glare at the new challenger who just stepped into the ring
>The lights return along with the music , the cloak goes and a loud scream is heard
>All the yeagershits and most spectators suddenly turn into 15 meter tall yeagerchads
>All the zeppelins and the marleycucks are shot down in a sudden barrage of projectiles
>Pokko lounges at Zeke but but his short stubby arms can't prevent Zeke's massive long noodlehands from simply picking up his titan mid-jump
>Zeke manhandles Pokko and Piku and starts bullying them
>Annie goes to stop him but a deafening explosion is heard behind her
>It's El Gesumin Grande himself
>He grabs and uses her titan a cocksleeve for his colossal penis
>Reiner suddenly remembers the next part of the script
>He gulps and shivers in anticipation
>A gigantic crystal pillar is inserted up his Titan's anus
>But he can take it
>He is armored joober
>He will swallow it all down and continue moving forward
>Because he is the armored jobber
>He can take it
You are wrong. It's no longer worth repeating why. Just know that you're a brainless dunce.
So I can see Gabo being the girl with the scarf "see you later Eren" and becoming Erens follower. This might mean Mikasa will die and Gabo will eat the founding titan.
I thought manlet would die to give Mikasa the power up but it may end up being the opposite
YOU'RE AUTISTIC DO YOU UNDERSTAND WORDS.
If I say "dogs eat chicken", that doesn't then imply that no one else eats chicken.
Transforming does give you access to paths and memories, that doesn't mean it's the only way, it's just one of many ways eren has seen paths for himself.
>EH child and RY child will never be childhood friends
It actually hurts
they can't fucking use it anyways, you forget about that?
the Founding Titan in the hands of a Non Royal is basically just another standard Titan:
It's only as good in combat as it's user, and it does not have the ability to harden itself by default.
>The only reason they where told to kill eren in liberio is because they had no other options.
they literally said in the last page of this fucking chapter that they are here to finish him now. that sounds like a pretty blunt statement to outright kill him here as well.
Since we'll get Reiner vs. Zeke part 2, we'll see how he beat him so easily the first time and if the same thing happens.
I am a fujo but Isayama was trying to portray they are forced enemies.
There's nothing inherently miserable about living life without fear of being oppressed.
Obviously not everyone is for the plan, but it isn't flat out evil or something.
>Titan Jesus was satan all along
What a twist
You sound like a gay in denial, user. But I understand your case if you don't ship anything at all.
Wait a minute. Would Elena have been against Eren fucking Historia? And why does Historia even agree with this shitty plan? Even to get pregnant from a farmer who, as a child, threw stones at her, is she a mazahist?
You fail to understand context, so you fail to understand him comments, you're far too retarded to be reading and discussing this manga, seriously i'm sure the new wsj is more your speed, stop embarrassing yourself.
>Elena
>wrong
you haven't proven shit. I have the story to backup everything I have said, including blatant factual statements made by characters such as:
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is no longer a priority.
They explore their resources in the meantime and then get a free almost vacated country with only old people waiting to expire in 6-7 decades, what's not to like.
To be fair Reiner has been the only shifter shown to be pushed that far without being exhausted beforehand or eaten. If Eren is able to pull the same thing it would trigger his transformation and take down most of the building with him and get Gabi and probably Pieck killed.
Well, that's because YH are dykes
>mazahist
Reiner and Ymir were lovers though
So Kiyomi confirmed as a bad bitch who'll fuck Mikasa over, too?
You really are not making a favor to homosexuals
You have the story to misinterpret and jump to inane conclusions that contradict direct statements and events, which you dismiss with flimsy excuses that only make sense to your malformed retard brain.
Yes, fuck niggers
>context
the context is that Magath saw with his own eyes that Reclaiming the Founding Titan would basically do nothing for them at this point. He saw it at fort Slava. What the hell is the Founding Titan going to do for them at this point in time in the world?
that is why it is no longer a priority.
that is why they just need to do w/e they can to kill it.
if they "kill" it by consuming it and actually acquiring it? great, but that's not what they are there to do.
I'm done explaining this to you, because you clearly don't understand fucking anything.
I would suggest to you go to back to chapter 1 and read the whole god damn story again, slowly, so you actually know what's going on. Did you know the main characters name is Eren?
Why would Marley want to nuke the world?
If the US steals a nuke from korea, its not because WE want to use it, it's because we want to make sure it's NEVER used(in theory)
Killing Eren doesn't make the nuke null and void. Stealing the nuke and putting it in the hands of someone who CANT use it, secures the future of their world.
Like you're so stupid and i'm baffled you can't come to these conclusion yourself.
Mikasa's not even half-eldian, euthanasia doesn't apply and she already invited her to leave Paradis.
Its so hard to read Isayamas potential villains that anything could happen, you could see them acting suspicious and then 2 chapters later they act scared. Kiyomi, Yelena and Boyega became too shit for my taste
you can't use the story in any of your assumptions because you clearly didn't read it. How can you have any arguments.. which you don't, based off something you didn't read?
I have a feeling you failed many of your book reports in school.. or perhaps you are still failing them now?...
So they'll just turn Historia into a pure titan in case of an attack and then somehow keep it restrained somewhere in case they need it again? Yelena didn't mention that at all. And if becoming a shifter wasn't part of the plan for Historia and her baby then what's the point of the baby at all, since pure titans have lifespans at least as long as regular humans (Ymir wandered for 60 years) and probably more since Wall Titans have been asleep within the walls for 100 years and can still wake up and wreck shit if ordered to?
This
Is not a priority only for magaht.
For the warriors, if there is a chance to obtain it would only be a favour for the eldians outside the walls, since the warrios would be seen as the hero who saved the world and given to marley the godlike power.
I see piek/porco operation as the last chance to eat eren that magaht give to them. Since they failed the surprise attack the plan now will have the priority to kill eren (if they ate him good, but just now that the operation failed obtain the FT isn't a priority)
And about piek didn't shoot him, for several reasons:
1) she need that power for the sake of eldians outside the walls and for her family.
2) shooting him would probably trigger the shifting, so she would be crushed alive inside that room( even in titan form since the cartman is the mosy fragile and slow to recovering of all 9s)
3) eren had the hand inside his pocket, thats mean he could have a little knife and trigger shifting right a instant before be headshotted,so that move would be too riscky.
Do you like my explanation?
That's not what they said in the chapter though. How does Eren know this? Are we assuming he'll do it automatically? The only thing we know for certain is: Only the armored has been shown capable of diffusing his nervous system. And Pieck just said outright that shooting Eren in the head would kill him, which the narrative didn't imply was wrong then and there. Eren seemed to believe it would work, Pieck didn't appear to have doubts, and the whole exchange ended with Porco attempting to take the founder by crunching Eren. So how are we assuming all this other shit? It's nonsense.
>the context is that Magath saw with his own eyes that Reclaiming the Founding Titan would basically do nothing for them at this point.
The context is that liberio was under attack with their main forces elsewhere, and reclaiming the FT was virtually impossible.
You don't understand, they don't want to use the nuke, they just want to make sure it can't be used, if they have the FT they will never have to worry about the world being stomped back to Timbuktu.
If they just kill eren, they are right back where they where 100 years ago, living in perpetual fear that the FT might fall into the "wrong hands", that was willy tiburs whole shabang.
>Why would Marley want to nuke the world?
the fuck are you blabbering about?
they don't need to STEAL it to prevent it from being used.. they can just DESTROY IT.
>Stealing the nuke and putting it in the hands of someone who CANT use it, secures the future of their world.
until it gets stolen again?
you're better off killing it and forcing it to do that newborn eldian shit where it would basically IMPOSSIBLE to find it.. at least while Zeke would still be alive.
This is why ZY didn't need to plan the baby at all, Historia is virtually immortal if they turn her into a pure titan and would last until they all die.
I already explained it to you, and that the baby was needed for the continuation of the royal bloodline
Today is the 25th anniversary of the Rawandan genocide, reminder that the story of SnK shares many parallels with this time.
Go back to twitter to bitch at Trump, brainlet
See
>can't be used
then kill it.
don't steal it and put it in someone else that can in turn be found and re-acquired by an enemy.
destroy it.
>If they just kill eren, they are right back where they where 100 years ago, living in perpetual fear that the FT might fall into the "wrong hands", that was willy tiburs whole shabang.
they're better off that way, especially right now, since Zeke is the only active royal trying to utilize it's power for some insane nonsense.
That's bullshit. They don't want to turn people into titans, they want to let them die out "peacefully" as they said about 100 times. It's also a lot easier to have 2 at their disposal in case one of them dies, than to risk it with Historia alone, especially when the rumbling isn't something they plan to use yet and for as long as Zeke still lives
You said becoming a shifter wasn't needed for Historia and her baby to be used to activate the Founder, which is true since they could simply be turned into mindless titans in case of an attack. But maintaining the royal family as evoked by Yelena in 116 is only a necessity if they plan to turn royals into shifters (since their lifespan would be limited).
Cant they just use Historia or her baby as mindless titan?
It's bullshit
>they can just DESTROY IT.
NO. THEY. CAN'T.
Let me catch you up to speed with the titan mechanics.
When a shifter is killed, the titan will randomly find a new host, in a new born eldian.
If they just kill eren, the nuke is up in the air, and the potential for the world to go kaboom is still there, looming over humanity.
Eating Eren is the only way to make sure the nuke doesn't fall into the wrong hands.
Marley like any nation in the real world is looking to secure their future, not just delay and inevitability. If possibly they'd like to be 100 certain they can't get nuked. If that fails, they'll take what they can in delaying their potential demise.
Please. No more turning into /his/ channel.
>until it gets stolen again?
The founding titan was never in their possession to being with.
And you continue to go further and further with your fanfic tier reasoning, putting all sorts of words and motivations with characters that didn't exist before because it "makes sense" to you. You don't need statements on the page or direct evidence, you can just assume whatever you want about a story and then speak as if it's true even when contradicted. Being so fucking brain dead and up your own ass is a kind of pure freedom I doubt I'll ever understand.
What is it that you don't understand? They need the royal blood to be guaranteed and the FT to be passed on so that they can use the rumbling as a deterrent to keep the world away and allow them to die out peacefully. IF the rumbling needed to be activated then yes, Historia and/or her child would be turned into a mindless and touch the FT for the rumbling to happen. However their plan isn't to unleash it, but just to use it as a deterrent as they previously have
I just fucking said that you imbecile
>you're better off killing it and forcing it to do that newborn eldian shit where it would basically IMPOSSIBLE to find it.. at least while Zeke would still be alive.
see? I literally said that myself.
>If they just kill eren, the nuke is up in the air, and the potential for the world to go kaboom is still there, looming over humanity.
by the time it gets found, IF it gets found, the only person on the planet that could use it is Historia and/or her kid. Zeke will likely be dead.
you really think Historia is going to go for nuking the world?
As I stated above, without a Royal Titan, the Founding Titan is only as good as it's user is in combat. So if someone else finds it, congrats they have a fighting Titan.
Talk about speed reading the story, you spedread what I wrote! that's something I've never seen before.
Well you see user, unlike you, world leaders aren't retarded.
They wan't 100% certainty.
The only way to "kill it", is to kill every single eldain on earth.
Simply putting the founding titan in a loyal cunt like pre-paradis gabi, secures their future, and is a lot easier then killing literally every eldian.
All killing eren here does is give the eldian race another opportunity to wipe marley of the face of the earth.
>Ackerman clan isn't Eldians
What?
what in the HOLY FUCK are BLABBERING ABOUT NOW?
There are TWO Royals Alive in the world, that we know about, Zeke and Historia.
out of those 2, there are only ONE of them that intends to have the Founding Titan utilized in an extreme way: Zeke.
If you outright KILL the Founding Titan and remove it from the game completely. Zeke will never be able to find it, he will die of Shifter AIDs before he can ever do anything.. unless he's killed earlier.
that leaves Historia. Do you think Historia plans to nuke the world and/or euthanize Eldians?
You aren't even coming up with arguments anymore you're just trying to insult me. and it's not working because you're the fucking retard that failed to read the story to begin with, so who cares what you say now.
>"AHHHHHHHHHHH, SAVE ME ARMONG, SHITKASA AND RIVAILLE OH GOD OH FUCK"
>"GKH GKH KHHH GKHH GK"
>"Oh, wait, I locked them up and killed Manlet"
Eren against the 50-year plan because it enslaves Historia, but he somehow agreed to Zeke's real plan even though it's no better for Historia. Yelena should have suspected it the moment he agreed
Why would Historia be at any risk of dying at all if she just gets turned into a pure titan like you think they would do if threatened by enemy nations? Her being preg actually just increases her own chances of dying since childbirth is enough of a risk that MPs would have to bring it up. Also the world is coming for Paradis within half a year so the Rumbling will have to happen in order to repel them, and unless something went super wrong Zeke will still be alive by the time enemy troops arrive.
How fucking dumb you are. Was it not clear before?
if you are any other nation on earth, do you want Marley to have the Founding Titan or do you want it to be lost for potentially a long period of time?
fuck off.
Is okey, Isayama will make Yelena even more retarded for the sake of the plot
Yelena believes Zeke convinced Eren.
clear what? you didn't fucking SAY anything other than insults?
If you kill the Founding Titan, NOBODY will know where it is, which means Zeke will not be able to go through with his crazy plan. NOBODY will be able to go through with any crazy plan.
Do you not fucking understand this at all?
>you really think Historia is going to go for nuking the world?
for 1. we don't yet know what historia is thinking.
and 2. Marley has every reason to believe, that the queen of the evil devil paradise island wants to nuke the fuck out of them.
They SHOULD expect that to happen.
That being said, given "historias, fuck the world i'm your friend", i could definitely see that as something she'd actually due, she's a pretty crude person i wouldn't put it past her.
They're not. If they're not affected by the memory rewriting then the FT can't sterilize them either, can't really call them eldian. Maybe Levi since he's half.
So yes EH or no EH?
Am I the only one who thinks Isayama is getting lost with his own plot? I don't understand Yelena for example
Why should I do anything besides insult you at this point? It's all you're good for. If you need a refresher on why read any previous reply to your braindead posts.
>Yelena should have suspected it the moment he agreed
I feel like you're not reading the manga. Did you see Yelena tear up over the mong like an idiot or not? She trusts Zeke and she suspects nothing
>They SHOULD expect that to happen.
THEN THEY SHOULD KILL THE FOUNDING TITAN TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING RE-ACQUIRED BY A POTENTIALLY EVIL QUEEN LOYALIST THAT WOULD STILL NUKE THE WORLD
KILLING THE FOUNDING TITAN OUTRIGHT.. REMOVES ITS IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.. WHICH IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF WHAT IS HAPPENING. THERE IS A GLOBAL THREAT TO THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. END IT RIGHT NOW.
DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND?!
What is there not to understand? She's a loyal devotee of Zeke and believes his word as gospel.
Too add, your whole thing is that there's a low possibility conditions like this will be met again, it's simply not smart to take chances like that.
If Marley can with 100% certainty secure their future by taking the nuke then they will.
If all else fails they will settle for delaying the nuke.
Securing their futrue with 100% certainty is not a "bonus" to them, it's the objective of any nation ever, real or fictional.
I've explained thoroughly why you are retarded and you still don't get it.
your failure to comprehend the story, because you didn't read it, is no longer my problem.
go read the story.
She see zeke as a god and is like his puppy (don't know if she just praise him or she is literally in love for him, just that,for her,he is the god who will save everything)
The retard is having a meltdown. His malformed brain can only take so much. He clings to his dumb ass reasoning, contradicted by recent events, and it's killing what few brain cells he possesses.
Dude, Yelena's saying they need the royal bloodline to continue there's a quote right there from the panel which I showed you, do you have autism for real?
>the Rumbling
We don't know. Kiyomi talked of a partial rumbling, and with Zeke being still alive they might be able to do that, but that's also why having 2 royals around makes it easier. We don't know exactly how the rumbling works yet
If i'm any other nation on earth, i want the nuke in my hands because as far as i'm concerned, i'm the only sane one who wouldn't use it.
Everyone wants to secure their own future, that's a given sherlock.
You're suggesting they play a game of chance every 13 years to say if the world ends or not. No one would want to live in such fear, that's been the case for the past 100 years.
What they want is to be 100% certain that the world won't get flattened tomorrow.
>If Marley can with 100% certainty secure their future by taking the nuke then they will.
fucking idiot people will know that they have it. they will still have it on the island right there where it can possibly be taken right back from them at any moment.
you want to truly eliminate the threat of a nuke going off? defuse it completely so that NOBODY can even think of using it. NOBODY.
She's a zealot
>Gesumin is back
rip Hange, never allowed to shine
>I don't understand Yelena for example
Isayama has a habit of making his character actually retarded to move the plot along. It's not the first time, it's just more blatant with ZY
KILLING THE FOUNDING TITAN MAKES IT FAR MORE LIKELY THAT IT WILL BE AQUIRED BY ANYONE BESIDES THEM, INCLUDING AN EVIL DEVIL QUEEN.
CAPTURING THE FOUNDING TITAN AND DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO MAKE SURE NO ONE FINDS IT, IS 1,000,000 TIMES MORE SAFE.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
That means Yelena's suddenly acting like an idiot, it has nothing to do with my reading
>Sasha's unfortunate death as well, additionally reinforced by a Marleyan falling for her.
Imagine being a Sashafag.
I mean I know she is obsessed and admires Zeke, but the point is that what made her dangerous was she being intelligent and manipulative only to be deceived by the mong in two words. You can be a fangirl and be smart (I dont know, Yuno from Mirai Nikki I guess)
This is my problem, I cant take this shit seriously anymore and I know the mong will make it even worse
>rip Hange
It is a shame but Gesumin > Bortmin
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Don't sink to her retarded hyperventilating tumblr allcaps level, user.
Imagine being a Conniefag. Cucked into oblivion.
you can't guarantee it would fall into your hands.
you have 3 plausible options
1) Paradis still has it, and can potentially use it
2) Marley has it, and who knows what will happen from there
3) Nobody has it, and it cannot be feasibly located.
>You're suggesting they play a game of chance every 13 years to say if the world ends or not.
YES
because right now they game they are playing is allowing the Nuke to remain active in a situation in which can still go off!
If the nuke goes off now, then you die either way.
if you defuse the nuke and hide it for a time at least the IMMEDIATE WORLD ENDING SITUATION at hand calms down.
See this is what you don't get: Marley taking the Nuke doesn't disarm the Nuke in the immediate situation, especially with an enemy that will still actively seek to re-acquire it from them.
if you destroy the nuke now, Paradis cannot use it at all. the threat of the nuke is completely gone.
>Yelena's saying they need the royal bloodline to continue
>sterilization
Ok explain to me how to have more than 2 royals at the moment?
The royal blood would already be guaranteed with Historia alone in your pure titan thingy scenario. If nothing happens during her lifespan then just turn her into a mindless when she grows old and you're certain to have royal blood around until everyone dies off.
>gopnikslut
Cringe.
Tbh it is easier to genocide the entire island than trying to eat Eren alive now.
*AHEM*
FUCK NILE
FUCK NIEL
AND FUCK GESUMIN
Have a wonderful evening everyone.
like you don't realize that no plan is perfect, and there's always a chance things won't go their way.
But if the FT is just randomly reborn there's a much larger chance it falls into the wrong hands (aka anyone beside marley).
If they get the FT and do everything within the possible abyss of their brains to make sure it isn't found, then they can live without fear.
Lose weight LEpedo
Calm down gopnikwhore. Go suck a dick with your BFF somewhere else.
How was she deceived by armin in two words?
What did she do that wasn't "smart", compared to what she's always done?
Explain further, because I think you misunderstood something.
I don't understand your problem at all. Yelena is a fanatic, she always has been. She was acting cagey before because she needed to in order to serve Zeke's grand scheme. She no longer needs to lie and manipulate because their plan came to fruition. What is it you find contradictory about her portrayal?
>KILLING THE FOUNDING TITAN MAKES IT FAR MORE LIKELY THAT IT WILL BE AQUIRED BY ANYONE BESIDES THEM, INCLUDING AN EVIL DEVIL QUEEN.
no it doesn't.
it can literally be reborn into any newborn Eldian anywhere on the planet, and thus virtually impossible to locate probably for many years, if at all.
I agree with you, idk why isayama thought it was a good idea to make ZY so gullible after they managed to fool everyone in Marley and in Paradis. It's been said lots of times that when the mong is involved every other character has to act like a retard to make the mong look good
>implying Isayama will allow it
If someone is going to reveal shit that will be Armin user. It is over
>But if the FT is just randomly reborn there's a much larger chance it falls into the wrong hands (aka anyone beside marley).
they wouldn't be able to use it properly
also, as I've stated several times now, it would be virtually impossible to find it for several years, if at all
by then Zeke will be dead, and the situation on Paradis will likely have come to an end.
The only way to do that is to kill every eldian on earth, which is impossible.
Even if other nations know they have it, they still know no one can touch them, and they also know they can't use it on themselves.
I don't understand what you mean, I think you maybe missed a word in your post
Historia won't live for 100 years, her child is the guarantee once she's dead so that they'd be able to still use the rumbking as a deterrent until the very last generation of eldians die
This desu. And why try fighting Eren who has the powers of two of the strongest titans? It doesn't make sense desu desu.
The mong is so fucking cancerous he made me side with Marley (the warriors are also cool), might be because the characters actually have the time to shine.
Not even a Mikasafag but even she got affected by the mong when she was redpilled before
Only the gopnikslut likes this.
The fanatics are blinded by their beliefs and once they're in power expect people to agree with them and understand their twisted vision. How is this in any way abstruse?
>The only way to do that is to kill every eldian on earth, which is impossible
unnecessary
>Even if other nations know they have it, they still know no one can touch them, and they also know they can't use it on themselves.
they can't use it at all without Zeke or Historia
which is why it more feasible to destroy it and remove it from Paradis so that Zeke and Historia can never find it and never know where it is.
Zeke will be long dead, and Historia may not care to go down this path..
Then how the fuck could Zeke and Yelena deceive all Marley?
>gopnikwhore trying to make a point
How do people fail to understand this? Even if it's a few years that's more than enough to eliminate the threat of Paradis before a royal could get their hands on the founding titan.
Obsessed.
What happened to this Hanji?
They don't have to. The Founding Titan is only dangerous with the royal blood. And guess what? With Eren dead, Marley can take their own sweet time to wipe them off the face of the earth. Any kid born with the powers on the island will be killed, any Eldians in Marley will likely fall to propaganda. There's literally no rational reason for not killing Eren immediately.
There are only 2 known eldian populations on earth, paradise and marley, im sure there are some stragglers out there but it's not much.
As i said, they are nation of intelligent people, and don't want to chance it, they want to secure their future. They are fighting Eren because they can potential take the founding titan and secure their future.
You guys are suggesting sliding ice cubes under the fridge, it doesn't solve their problem, the issue that willy brought up.
That some resentful eldian will destroy the world.
That being said, killing eren is still a potential option, but that's if all else fails.
Why the fuck wouldn't Zeke fuck some whores in the underground to have more royals instead of relying on only 2 royals?
He's probably gay for Eren's dick.
>>You're suggesting they play a game of chance every 13 years to say if the world ends or not.
>YES
They aren't defusing and hiding the nuke, they are fumbling and losing the nuke in a hay stake, now that need to try and find it before it potentially goes off again.
After searching for it for 100 years.
As I said, any smart nation wouldn't want to chance this, you want to chance this because you can't think outside of yourself, you don't understand that security is the number 1 priority of any nation.
Just stop already
The original Paradis cast is the weakest. Put Eren, Historia, Jean and Pixis aboard the plane and napalm the whole island for all I care.
Then why leave Manlet and Hans alive?
Reiner only loved Historia, gopnikslut. Now kys.
By being sneaky. Zeke was demonstrated to be very good at tricking Marley, and through Yelena he fooled Paradis too. But it's no longer a deception. They are now in the position to revewl their true intentions and they fully expect some people to be in board, now that they control Paradis. But Zeke's achilles heel is that he believes Eren truly understands him and thinks the same way he does. Yelena likewise believes Zeke is a messiah and all will come to revere his mercy in time, so she's ready to accept that Armin or anyone might see things Zeke's way as well.
Hange pretimeskip was cool
>pretimeskip
Yeah I agree but even she got affected by Armong's retardation aura. It's over for her.
>Manlet
Money
>Hans
Nurse the manlet
RE is an interesting relationship but it isn't gay or homoerotic, user. Never was and never will be.
Yes user, any nation would prefer to secure the next 13 years, opposed to securing the foreseeable future.
That's definitely not retarded and completely unrealistic.
If given the chance to secure your foreseeable future, or just the next few years, people would take the first one.
If the first option no longer becomes viable, then they will take the second one.
I prefer her now that she's struggling.
Well I guess it's a matter of differing opinions at this point. Personally I think it's much easier finding the founding titan in a haystack than fighting an experienced titan shifter in Eren especially with the WHT right now.
>which is why it more feasible to destroy it and remove it from Paradis
Killing Eren doesn't remove it from paradise, it can still be reborn in paradise a free population of eldians whom have children as they please.
Eating Eren removes it from paradis.
Because he doesn't want the responsibility because of muh bad childhood, obviously. He wouldn't want to sacrifice his own children, but doesn't give a fuck about others. And he's a big baby who can't get it up because of muh trauma
I don't care what ship you like. Just stop insulting the artist because they draw something you don't like
THANK YOU
better to throw it in a haystack and let it be lost for several years then potentially have it go off RIGHT NOW.
the threat of the Nuke going of RIGHT NOW is not only plausible but likely.
if the Nuke goes of RIGHT NOW.. then guess what nobody will have to worry about looking for it later.
Please just understand this. Because of how high the threat is of that Nuke going off now.. it IS better to destroy it and "haystack" it as you say, then still let it be active on the battlefield whether in Marley or Paradis' hands, because even if it gets taken by Marley there is a chance that fanatical Yeagerist nutcases can take it back.
Look either outright kill Eren, or kill Zeke. Don't let that Nuke have the chance to go off now. Don't let it stay active in this situation.
That is pretty lame, I thought the ideology and the plan were more important than that, like prostitutes fucking men they hate for the money.
Yes there is, if they kill eren their only option is to then kill every single eldian.
Magath doesn't want this, gabi doesn't want this, piecke doesn't want this, porco doesn't want this.
Like your so deep in your bullshit whole you now forgetting character motivations and justifications.
Fuck his childhood, fuck his daddy issue. Who cares about that? That is why he came up with this ultimate plan
>Yes user, any nation would prefer to secure the next 13 years, opposed to securing the foreseeable future.
if they don't stop it now, they might not even ONE year.
once those Wall CTs are released.. it's over. It may take some of them a long time to traverse the entire planet, but they will eventually stomp everything.
Why didn't they bring Zeke to a rape dungeon instead of forcing Historia to breed?
She was just an high rank soldiers who likes titans and wanted find out the truth about them, she wasn't prepared to became commader and, most important,she was never ready to andle a so terrible situation like a possible mass scale attack by all the nations of the world.
To be fair, no one in the island could be prepared to,since the only enemy they have faced for 100 years were just gigantic stupid monsters. They aren't got retarded as you people think , they just couln't be ready for war, since was something they never experienced since karl fritz erased their memories.
The only one who is ready from the walldians is eren, but only because his father memories showed him the truth, for this reason he was diffident since the beginnig about make peace whit others nation whitout any kind of conflict.
This isn't "made characters retardeed duh", but put the characters in an unknow situation they don't know how to handle
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I feel like you lead the argument away from simple inarguable facts and did the morontard a favor with this whole nuke analogy. It let him discuss theory and potential character motive rather than repeatedly slamming his dick in a door shrieking about how every shifter can do what Reiner did with ZERO evidence or statements in the manga to back that up; and how Porco trying to eat Eren and take the founder wasn't the real plan even though anyone that isn't blind or stupid can see that it was the whole point of the roof set up.
But now he can play with you about theories instead of denying what's right in front of him. You're nice to let him save face like that.
>it can still be reborn in paradise a free population of eldians whom have children as they please.
>it CAN
it will be reborn to a RANDOM Eldian Newborn ANYWHERE on the ENTIRE PLANET
that is why I keep insisting on this point.. because NOBODY will be able to find it in a feasible manner/time.
>Eating Eren removes it from paradis.
NO IT DOESN'T. ITS STILL FUCKING THERE RIGHT NOW AND YEAGERIST LOYALIST/ZEKE IS STILL ON THE ISLAND ALIVE AS WELL.
I think it's pretty clear by now that the ideology is a smokescreen to his own traumatic experiences and self-hatred. He's deluded himself in thinking he's saving people, while it's just a way to fuck them over due to being a manchild
Reiner may loved Historia, but no one loves you. Now kys LEpedo.
*Krista
>kill every single Eldian
Uh not really? You're downplaying the effect of propaganda on mainland Eldians and that it's a necessity to kill every Eldian. Even better is that without Eren, there isn't really much of an obstacle for the island to be conquered thus allowing them to slowly flush the Founding Titan out.
>Like your so deep in your bullshit whole you now forgetting character motivations and justifications.
I'm just discussing this dude but whatever makes you happy.
>There are only 2 known eldian populations on earth, paradise and marley
Udo says his parents came from another country. Eldian internment zones aren't limited to Marley but other nations treat Eldians much worse.
If the nuke was gonna go off RIGHT NOW, it would've happened already, Zeke and Eren have been on the island for a month before marley showed up.
If they thought it would just got off, it would've happened already.
Marley has been playing the, the "nuke won't go off RIGHT NOW" game for 100 fucking years, they now have the chance to secure there future they will take it.
If this fails then they will have to play the delay game again, but it they then have to live in fear of this fated day again.
As I said, plan A is to capture the founding titan, If this proves impossible then it's plan B.
Both options are on the table and completely viable, it only makes sense for them to choose plan A, then to go back to how things where for the last 100 years.
She became a woman aka useless
>Armin you are so great
>I believe you Boyega
>Lets wait like Pixis said
>Rivaille killed Erwin but its my fault
>I'm going to bath this poor kid muh maternal feelings
>Going to take care of this little man
If they Eren and zeke where gonna nuke the world, it would've happened already, you don't think magath recognize that, it's been a month and some change since the attack.
you fool, they are thinking of their foreseeable future
if the "nuke" is allowed to go off now, they won't have one. foreseeable future in this instance maybe IS just a few years until they come up with their next strategy.
He doesn't know Historia. Krista was the girl he had a crush on like 90% of the guys from the 104th trainee regiment because she was nice and cute.
Eldia rules the Earth for nearly 2000 years. There should be at least tens of millions of Eldians around the world, if the whole world population is not actually Eldian
He even still calls her Krista, despite reading her real name in Ymir's love letter for her
>If the nuke was gonna go off RIGHT NOW, it would've happened already, Zeke and Eren have been on the island for a month before marley showed up.
not really
same reason why Eren/Zeke didn't enact his euthanize plan while they were still in Marley: Who the fuck knows, Isayama is a hack.
>Marley has been playing the, the "nuke won't go off RIGHT NOW" game for 100 fucking years
because Tybur knew it wouldn't' go off
now it can, because a nutcase holds the Founding Titan instead.
Blah blah nuke whatever. Eren would have died if Pieck shot him in the head. There was no suggestion otherwise. The reason she didn't was to give Porco a shot at chomping up the founder.
This nuke shit is silly and beside the point.
Zeke explained in the chapter where levi beat the shit out of him "you wasted too much time and even if I explained the plan you wouldn't understand because you think you can hold off the world but you don't know what the world can do to you." The problem is the island thinks they can reason with the world or fight off the world but the harsh reality is they stand no real chance and the only chance is rumbling which is a form of Armageddon.
>a feasible manner/time.
They have there entire future, their is no time limit.
This is the closest they've ever been too securing the foreseeable future, so they take it.
Stealing away the FT implies they get away with it, it's obviously harder to do with all the enemies but it secures there future which is why its a priority
Well yeah, there are definitely more Eldians out there than just in Marley and Paradis. But like Kruger pointed out the Eldian Empire probably didn't just do nonstop ethnic cleansing for 2000 years, otherwise everyone would have Eldian blood in their veins and Marley's blood tests to distinguish Eldians in Marley from the Marleyan population would be useless.
see there is no reason for Eren/Zeke to not enact Zeke's plan while they met in Marley but they didn't. so who the fuck knows.
maybe Eren wan'ts to be closer to the Walls before he opens them up. how the fuck should I know, ask Isayama
Again, your implying they chance something this important when they can come out with their future 100% secured, any intelligent nation would take the latter and you fail to comprehend this.
Eating eren is not impossible for them
Foreseeable future, is never "just a few years".
If you have the option to save yourself just a few years, or the "foresseable future" next 100+, you take the latter.
Wasting time on the why when the fact that they actually did try to get the founder was plain as fucking day. Why let them argue stupid semantics?
Isn't it weird that Eldian language the most common out there, there should be literally Eldians everywhere. The blood test is just random picking people so some people feel like they're different and better than the others
>They have there entire future, their is no time limit.
well sure they have their entire future now to look for it because it didn't explode.
I'm tired of explaining this to you, the nuke is better off hidden from EVERYBODY for a period of time than it being in Marley's hands.
>Stealing away the FT implies they get away with it, it's obviously harder to do with all the enemies
THIS is why i keep saying DESTROY IT OUTRIGHT
because the Yeagerists and Zeke are STILL ACTIVE. They can attempt to take the Nuke back, and they WILL use it (either for Zeke's purposes or Eren's.. or fuck it, both)
>Historia won't live for 100 years
She doesn't have to if you just turn her into a mindless like said they would do. It doesn't have to happen right away either: let her live till she grows old and then turn her: pure titans don't have a fixed lifespan anyway so they're sure she'll at least be usable for the next 40-50 years.
Shame Pieck and Pock don't see it that way.
>Foreseeable future, is never "just a few years".
fucking idiot
if a nuke is about to go off in your face, foreseeable future is less than 30 minutes. you have to do WHAT YOU CAN to STOP IT. You aren't thinking of 100 years from now because you may not have 100 minutes from now.
WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU IDIOTS TO UNDERSTAND.
Shouldnt they just kill Historia?
This is all just a smokescreen anyway.
if they "consumed" him then good for them, good luck fighting off the rest and Zeke who WILL be coming for it back.
Reiner obviously is there to kill him outright.
I honestly don't get what's so hard for you to understand. They have 2 generations of royals now, the youngest which is Historia's child, will get to see the last generation of eldians through to their ending, and they don't have to turn anyone into a titan unless they really have to
It’s not about to go off in their face, if it was it would have already happened. Clearly reiners group understands this.
They aren’t already at plan b yet. Eating eren and escaping with the FT is their priority.
It should be there priority because securing their future is way more important then just the next few years.
You’re implying they are already at the point where they can’t eat him and you’re just wrong.
Good for them? That contradicts the motive you've stapled to Magath's statement during the attack. Which is get rid of the FT at all costs, make it lost and unrecoverable. That's not good! It's also not the goal their operating under currently, so whether you think it good or not, the plan is to attempt to take the FT.
>if it was it would have already happened
ISAYAMA IS A HACK
WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST TOUCH HANDS IN MARLEY?!
HOW THE FUCK SHOULD I KNOW THIS?
how many times do i have to say this. the point is the threat is ACTIVE RIGHT NOW. quit wasting my fucking time.
No consuming him and escaping in the primary goal.
Obstacles like zeke are just a part of what makes this option difficult but worth it if they succeed.
They aren’t in panic mode yet, so killing eren is not the objective, stealing and securing the FT is
>Which is get rid of the FT at all costs
no, Magath said it isn't their priority to retake it.
I PERSONALLY don't think they should really even take it back as a bonus.
Despite what Magath said, if they take it, they take it, even though its still risky to let it be active. Marley still doesn't know Eren/Zeke's true intentions anyways.
>stealing and securing the FT is
tell me where THEY say that is THEIR objective.. and don't use Pieck talking to Eren because she is clearly bullshitting him. She said they can't eat him, and apparently Porco tried to eat him? that is very contradictory.
You’re a hack reader.
Eren and zeke haven’t even practiced or learned how to control its power, they just know it can be accessed.
Re-read the last arc if you don’t understand why SL has kept them apart.
>Re-read the last arc if you don’t understand why SL has kept them apart.
lmao they kept them apart because they didn't fucking trust Zeke you dumbass, not because they weren't ready to "rumble"
When piecke set eren up to be eaten by porco.
If you need things to be explicitly stated to you before they happen then you’ve been reading the wrong manga.
Characters have always acted before the reader knows exactly what going through their heads.
Readers with functioning brains are able to understand character goals and motivations through their actions
The best reason that occurs is they need to be nearby when ordering titans like they do with their scream. I don't think that ability works across continents at the very least, and:
1) Zeke wants to do that with the shiganshina wall titans for a rumbling demonstration that scares the world;
2) Eren likely wants to do a full rumble and needs to be in Paradis to give that order.
The reason is completely irrelevant the fact as they have yet to be in a position to scare the world with the FT.
Marley doesn’t know this.
>When piecke set eren up to be eaten by porco.
but she stated in her bullshit to Eren that they can't Eat Eren because they'd need him alive to reclaim the Founding Titan later. Eating him would go against the "mission" as Eren understands it
so then Porco just tries to eat him? again.. very contradictory.
I'm tired of telling people to go back and read the story again but I will do it one more time for you because you as well seem to be another retard: go back and read it again, because you clearly don't understand anything.
I don't think there's anything in the story so far that hints at or suggests these blood tests were just for show so I'd rather assume they're not until proven otherwise. Also the Eldian Empire was the most powerful for two millenia and Marley was seemingly the nation that was affected/oppressed the most. It would make sense for the Eldian langage to remain commonly understood over the world since the Empire only collapsed about a hundred years ago and for Marley to have lost their own original langage over time.
SHe said the cant kill him, they can eat him just fine.
>The reason is completely irrelevant the fact as they have yet to be in a position to scare the world with the FT.
You just told me to go back and understand why SL kept them apart
I told you literally why they kept them apart,
and now you tell me its irrelevant.
GET FUCKED THEN IF YOU WANT TO WASTE BOTH OF OUR TIMES YOU FUCKING RETARD
>The best reason that occurs is they need to be nearby when ordering titans like they do with their scream
maybe, but apparently Zeke intends to "Sterilize" all Eldians on the planet, so apparently there is no range limit to the Founding Titan's powers?
so once again, how the fuck am I supposed to know WHY they haven't done it yet except for the fact that sometimes Isayama is a fucking HACK.
YOU STOP WASTING MY TIME AS WELL
DAMNIT I HATE YOU PEOPLE BEING SO DUMB I FUCKED UP MY POST TWICE
What I don't understand is how the baby in your scenario is an absolute necessity when it ain't.
this is, once again, from Eren's perspective that they actually want to reclaim the Founding Titan.
THEY DON'T! GOD DAMNIT!
I gave you a valid reason, the power to order titans has only been shown to be usable when in close proximity and Eren and Zeke haven't met in Paradis yet. The sterilization part needs to work regardless of range, yes, but if they transformed and got found out in Marley then they couldn't come to Paradis for the rumbling/rumbling demonstration, that's the tangent I'm going off because nothing else makes much sense.
Don't reply if you're going to type like a teenage girl.
Meant for .
>but if they transformed and got found out in Marley then they couldn't come to Paradis for the rumbling/rumbling demonstration
Zeke doesn't care about that. He may act like he does, but what happens to Paradis after he enacts his plan is up to Paradis.
perhaps then, Eren wouldn't be willing to do the plan because he wouldn't be able to guarantee a rumbling deterrent. Zeke want's his plan done, so he'll have to play along.
Okay so bottom line is you’re trolling or can’t read.
She’s saying they can’t kill him.
I’m telling you that because you claim isayama is a hack for not justifying why eren didn’t already nuke. Then you yourself explained some of the justification you’re so retarded holy shit.
and I'm telling you that
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
here it is a few more times, incase you missed it
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
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Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
Reclaiming the Founding Titan is not a Priority
They DO. We can judge this based on their options, instead of killing him they tried to eat him. That right there explains which goal the prioritized.
And I gave you a million reason why eating him is their priority.
I didn't explain shit I said "maybe" which is not fucking anything at all.
stop wasting my time.
Good. Then you understand the reason Pieck didn't shoot Eren in the head wasn't some totally not hinted at assumption that it wouldn't work. Neither Pieck nor Eren considered the possibility that Eren could just shrug off a bullet to the brain. It's pure assumption that he could, with no evidence directly supporting it and clear statements to the contrary by two characters.
So Pieck, for whatever reason, chose not to attempt to simply assassinate Eren. She instead decided, along with Porco, whether under orders or not, to try to use the Jaw to steal the Founder. That is what happened. By the way, here's Porco still talking about taking the Founder after they failed to kill Eren with anti titan cannons and warhammer on Magath's order. If he wants them to hurry and try to kill Eren (which he admits might put it back in enemy hands but doesn't care because the time of titans is over) he needs to make it much more clear to Cart and Jaw.
and all I needed was one: the fact they said it isn't.
so get fucked.
stop wasting my time.
she didn't shoot him because she knew it wouldn't kill him. see WAY above in a whole bunch of other jarbled mess arguments as to why. I'm not explaining this to you again you retards.
And you’re just wrong.
Claiming the FT secures their future, and thus is their number one priority.
Killing it here without first trying to eat him is a wasted opportunity and only delays their problems.
Now that porco missed, maybe it’s full on kill mode or maybe they will still try to eat him, the point is piecke let the opportunity to kill eren go for the chance to secure the future of market. She PRIORITIZED it.
GOOD TH-, wait for it