Kemono Friends 2

Tell me the positives of the new season user, leave aside all the bad thoughts and tell me about the things you liked about it

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I liked a lot of the friends and their character design. I even liked the soundtrack.

But almost everything else is shit.

and that concludes the positives of the new season

There were some good things like Kusobird, Caracal, Hotel Trio and episode 10 but I can't forget how they destroyed Kaban.

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It didn't have more bad things then it actually did.

New friends (Not Kyururu) are nice and I would love to see them in other franchise instances that aren't cursed.

I thought Serval was kinda cute sometimes.

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Are we watching the stream?

I like that someone redesign the shit kid with a superior design.

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Thanks for the link, user

ITS STARTING!

won't be going but you anons enjoy your time

It made other shows look good.

I need this healing, I got robbed today with a gun, fuck

Caracal, Dog, Beep Bird, Hotel Trio, Engrish Pigeon (attention preaaaase!), everyone thinking Tiger Beast was on their side before she turned on them and Owls caring for Kaban.

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why didn't you shoot back, user

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Because im not a friend who is good at shooting

The post-credits scenes were also good.

it's not that hard, it's just expensive

I like the owls

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>Tell me the positives of the new season user
It bombed so we won't have to suffer a third season.

There are no guns in my territory

well you just got robbed with one, so obviously your politicians are lying to you

I liked the shot of the ISS moving across the moon, and Episode 10 was probably the best out of the lot. Otherwise it was a twisted fever dream of a season that gutted much of what was loved about season 1.

that wasn't the ISS, wrong shape

Good owls.

Yeah the owls were one of the few good parts, though the potential squandered just like everything else.

Not that user and I actually do shoot as a hobby and to deal with squirrels but it's hard to get around my vision really sucking pretty badly, even with strong glasses. I'll never be great at it in a rush (vs being able to take my time with a personally adjusted scope). I wish brass ammo or similar would become more common too.

What work is this? Decent fanworks are the only things that might salvage something from this wreck.

Domo, furenzu sureya de gozaru.

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Not a clue i scavenged it off a Japanese image board and some helpful user here gave me the translations to write in.

Also the lewds. Dont forget about the lewd fanart.

Lion needs special forces to counter Moose's ninja

I surprisingly like the OP i thought it was super cliche at first but it grew on me.

That said
youtube.com/watch?v=JrO17ZRrRNQ
youtube.com/watch?v=ybtabYzjp5c
Those are some pretty decent fan work.
Apparently the beast concept came from the Fanfiction and is insanely popular in japan along with winnings awards.

I liked the old ED. It was cute why they have to change it midshow?

For me, these are the real season 2. That thing what we got was actually a cerulean taking the form of a season.

Vampire Bat, Doggo, the Hotel Trio and episode 4. Also Kaban's appearance at the end of episode 5 was well done, too bad it immediately went to shit afterwards.

So the fanfiction that this based on is it a comic or is it written, where can I read it?

Why do you still suffer here when there is a lot of healing in the streaming?

I loved that long doujin where Shin Godzilla became a Friend.

I like the racing duo cause they remind me of season 1's best girls

The YouTube video info list it as kakuyomu.jp/works/1177354054882921926
But i have yet to try and read it

Give this a read if you havent yet. Its amazing how good it is.
danbooru.donmai.us/pools/12790

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hnng her initial violence autism and slowly coming around to other friends was sweet

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Yeah I was going to spend the forever needed to try an typeset in the translations as a side project when my job sticks in the middle of nowhere again. When they send me places I basically get paid to shitpost here and watch anime until something breaks.

Good:
>many new friends of all flavors for everyone
>returning favorites that don't steal the show
>caracal got the respect on her name that she always deserved

Ohma and Teto also become Friends.

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>look at how they massacred my girl
I love Beep and Doggo, but I will never forgive them for what they did to Kaban.

Kaban had a hard life.
She is still just that little girl but she pretends to be strong in front of others.
For all they shit they fucked up I like her and the owls, too bad to make it happen they had fuck everything else up

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Yeah, it was a really sweet ending going full circle like that.

This is canon to me.

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There's a great video on Niconico that (jokingly) compares KF2 to Dante's Inferno, and it strangely makes sense, even more so than the popular Kyururu is a Russian Spy theory.

Yeah at least that what I took from her trying not to acknowledge it in episode 6 or trying to put up a strong front in front of the owls in the finale on the beach after Serval leaves.

Damn I forgot about it. Another amazing doujin. danbooru.donmai.us/pools/12696

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>Just like the first time we met her
Jesus even the owls died and forgot her but they just pretend to be the old ones so she doesn't cry or leave them

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How would you spoil your favorite friend?

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it was really nicely done, king of monsters becomes guardian of friends, then full circle to helping ohma's initial beFriending. feel matched the series bretty gud.
>shingoji is the one this time to help a super powered new friend in her initial confusion
>"Even though I promised mama I'd be a good person..."
MY HEART

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cytube stream where

>Kyururu, Pigeon, and Clone are standing as in the picture
>Pigeon, facing Clone, starts talking to Kyururu who is behind her
>Kyururu says "Look out!", referring to the Clone being dangerous
>Pigeon TURNS AROUND to face Kyururu and say "Huh?"
>Clone attacks Pigeon, who is now facing away from Clone
>Kyururu pushes Pigeon away FROM THE SIDE

And people have the nerve to say KF2 has better animation.

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thread is about the POSITIVES of s2 user if you start covering the retardation we'll be here all day

I can see a moose fighting a lion, but what about a tiger?

And Pigeon had that weird mini arc about being alone which would have worked better if there wasn't already a bunch of other stuff to deal with (which didn't get resolved period).

Remember to stay in the car or face friend gangrape.

what happened to the KF1 stream link?

Intermission time!

I want to jump out

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cytu DOT be/r/kemonothon

kf1 strem wen

Tigers are bigger and more dangerous than lions

Jaguars can beat the shit out of them.

thanks

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it's RIGHT THERE you double nigger
Jaguars are the most dangerous land animal in the western hemisphere
Tigers are in the eastern hemisphere

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>you'll never be swarmed by cute, child-sized animal girls which can actually easily overpower you then drag you off to some secluded area and take turns raping you for hours
Fuck this gay earth

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dunno user the cat girls might have spiky futa dicks that would be worrisome

So if I reach out to pet one, they'd Friends would drag me away?

Fuck off futafags, last time we allowed you guys to hang around S2 happened.

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I don't think they're child sized

>he wants to get dragged to the dolphin caves

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Who is the best Friend to snuggle with on a cold winter's night?
It's pic related

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Why couldn't season 2 could not just the antics of Mirai and friends and have ending it with the disaster.

youtube.com/watch?v=aUJAmNIbqz0

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God that would be terrifying. A bunch of cute animal girls would kidnap you and force you to mate with them in various ways for days on end, with no escape in sight. By the time you get the chance to take a break all the sandstar exposure would probably turn you into a cute girl, which would lead into even more dangerous situations. You'd have to hide from both the friends and the park management

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Friends are actually quite short.

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The positive thing is that tatsuki's hands are clean of this garbage.

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>Mirai loves animals so much because she got raped into submission by them
Amazing tofu

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That's baka-man
twitter.com/baka_man_
He always draws depressing stuff.

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THE
MOOSE
IS
LOOSE

nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31380019

youtube.com/watch?v=Qus2LxnN4fQ

I love her long fluffy hair

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no payday

no zoo worker inserts

no tanoshii

shit music

ugly designs with no soul

no worldbuilding

genericshit narrative to accompany previous point

Somehow I think its the other way around.

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>Kaban just a cyborg created by dead humanity to watch over the earth afterwards
NO TALOS IS NOT TANOSHI

I need a comparison with Kaban eyes when she was told that humans when extinct

You'd think the only two humans in the park would have a talk about where the rest of the humans are?

Kaban knows that Kyururu won't be able to help and as long as she doesn't ask about it there's no reason to burden her with that information

That's brap-chan though.

Domesutiku Doggo.

Domesutiku Doggo.

Domesutiku Doggo.

It ended ...r-right?

12.1

nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30691176

Why 3?

That was my face when I sat through that horrendous finale they did for S2. That just killed all of me.

Know your place, dog of the prairies.

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I want to kissu the friends too!

artist-wise is easier to draw standard 2d or 3d animated like kemono friends?

Kaban-chan cleaning your ears!

youtube.com/watch?v=OgkQciUAxqY&t=165s

3d is a specialized skillset that is uncommon in Japan, 2d would be easier to assemble a team for which is why they had so much problems with this
they really should have gone with 2d animation

What new season, doesn't look like it exists yet.

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>I pray it doesn’t happen like this
Is the artist doing okay?

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Friends, it is the end of an era. Today is the last sunrise safari on Safari Live.
One last time, won't you join me, all my Kemono Friends?
youtube.com/watch?v=fhneoxmjjF4

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I'm glad geemu-chan isn't ruined!

Very well.

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>I pray it doesn't happen like this.

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Caracal basically saved the show.
Cute new Friends like Aardwolf, Doggo, Giant Panda & Donkey have promise.
The art & animation were smoother.
They should do a side OVA of just Alpaca's Tea House.

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>the last
oh no, what's happening?

>animation were smoother.

The animation was inconsistent as hell and was far rougher than anything from S1 at numerous points.

KF stream in a nutshell

sunrise is going away and they will instead do an all night flir/infared night drive
there's an article up on the safari live FB. i dare not link it for fear of ban

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What a lewd cat.

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>I pray it doesn't happen like this

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It didn't have to be like this...

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>Why couldn't season 2 could not just the antics of Mirai and friends and have ending it with the disaster.
That would be a lot better than what we got and it could have avoid shitting on S1.

Honestly the welcome to Japari park episodes makes me wish they had gone with 2D over 3D
Frankly it makes for a better S2 then the real S2 did.
At least we start getting new episodes of it again this month.

Alpaca got some Japari Gum.

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A reminder of what we lost.

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I never bothered with Youkoso Japari Park e, but knowing it can't be worse than KF2 I'll probably give it a try now.

it's worse than KF2 in that it's completely boring

Why would she need that?

I love them.

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Don't bother, it's bad too but in a completely different way.

Probably gonna chew on it.

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Aren't the eyes wrong there?

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Yes, but it's the best Alpaca fanart.

Here is the true ending of season 2:

twitter.com/Hayato_Himonoke/status/1114515922281062400?s=20

isn't that nigger entirely too close to those lions?

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My daughter Silky Anteater is so cute!

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That Japari gum can't stop me from giving her my Japari cum

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Domestic Dog-san should NOT have been abandoned, she was meant to be by a human's side. Dogs and humans are the most powerful combo in the animal kingdom

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The animals in the safari zones are completely used to humans, they have been in the safari area with the animals for 80+ years so they ignore the humans and the motor vehicles.

The tanoshii I've lost, the friends I've lost, won't stop hurting. You feel it too, don't you?

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Ah yes, nothing better than fanarts that'll make me cry to sleep tonight

that lion is fucking majestic
he seems like a very small lion

Alpacas make you cry?

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fucking majestic as hell lion

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I’ll have two Japari Buns, a large Japari Bun, Japari Bread with extra dip, a bag of Japari Chips, two Japari Sticks, one with Japari Cheese, and a large Japari Soda

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Neesan.

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After season 2 they do, become Alpaca makes me realize that it can't be undone, that aberration really happened and there's nothing I can do to unwatch it

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It's been type at already. It's on sadpanda.

the lions are gonna fuck ya'll!

>Alpaca is all alone without Toki and Scarlet
Why did they bully even Alpaca?

I wish we could have more art with alpacazuri

Well fuck i should of been reading it there.
I guess I'll find another boredom project.

Nice.

I think the 16+i chapters hasnt been translated yet. pixiv.net/member.php?id=321750

Why Beep friends become so popular in here?
I mean, she isn't a bad characters, but I don't remember she being all that funny or cute, not more than any other new friends in the second season
Why?

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she was quite intensely bullied, so of course Japan and we got in on it

She got a lot of artwork from artists who felt bad for her after her episode. Also the BEEP! meme.

Go and read it, some of the S1 stuff is great and the official manga being mediocre makes the fan manga even more tasty

No one in her own universe likes her, so we have to fill in the void.

>Undeserved smug
>Tight clothing
>Got bullied

There was no way she wasn't going to be popular with fans of the franchise.

I think it was because people felt bad or thought her reaction was funny.

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Why do we live in this world line?

This is my great reminder of what we lost
nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30707662

Is that a Metal Gear Solid reference?

Because we can't have nice things.

Agreed
This new season should have been MC with Doogo and maybe Caracal
Later they cross paths with Kaban with Serval

forgot the doggo pic

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>Gotta go fast

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nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34923907

Bring us to a better worldline, user. One where this smile is protected

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this image makes me sad and angry.

Was season 2 really that bad compared to season 1?
I didn't watch Season 2 cause I was afraid it would not live up to the first season. And people are saying they ruined Kaban, What happened to Kaban in the second season?

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I want to be in a wordline where there is terabytes and terabytes of Kemono Friends remixes.

Yeah, Doggo and Tiger didn't deserve what they did it to them this season

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please don't post my name on Yea Forums thx

They took her character and happiness, looked at it for a second, and then curb stomped it

Everyone is an asshole to each other and the human is irredeemably worthless. I only wish I was trolling with that previous statement.

Serval got chomped by a Cerulean or something between seasons and lost at least most of her memory of Kaban. Kaban is living separated from Serval and pretending not to know her. At the end Serval is implied to at least somewhat remember Kaban but is friends with Kyururu now so she goes with her instead. What happened after they left the island in S1 i also never mentioned. Also, Kaban apparently treats Bossu like just a tool now and has a drawer full of lucky-beast watches.

>never found humans
>Serval died and lost her memories
>But not really lol
>Lives with owls doing science shit alone for god knows how long
>Final episode
>Serval continues to travel with shitkid
>Kaban is always on the verge of tears
Fuck this I'm sad now.

Dear friends
How we can undo Kusokawa's snap on the Kemono Friends franchise?
In waht timeline can we defeat them?

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>toki sang and got boo'd when in s1 they were excited to have her collaborate with ppp
>margay wasn't special
>domestic dog got the shit beat out of her
>a friend was implied to have been killed when a building fell on her
>caracal was a huge bitch and contributed nothing
>kaban was so sad serval didn't remember her
season 2 was garbage

Let's hope Sega actually gave a fuck.

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I just want Tiger Beast to fucking ride me and smash my hip bones to dust

>everything else
Haha you got me there.
There wasn't anything else.

Delete this

Some time after episode 12 but before 9/25 we need to replace Mine and some of Kadokawa's higher ups

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I bet Lion could beat up Moose, easy

Anyone have the comic where it's either Kaban or Serval in a vegetative state?

danbooru.donmai.us/data/__caracal_and_serval_kemono_friends_drawn_by_kotobuki_tiny_life__bfdd6f823fcb084e163cc36caadf59fc.mp4

Pavlov's cats

I bet Moose can beat up anyone with one strong ram in bed

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Join the Kemono Friends R project

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I have no faith that kadokawa won't sent a C&D to its creators.

I like where this is going

What is the Kemono Friends R project?

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Wolf and domestic dog would’ve been a better combo than serval and caracal. Wouldn’t have been a shameless repeat of the first season, and they could’ve explored themes about the wild side of animals vs the tame side, which was something they kept hinting at with tiger but never did anything with. But really, dog is just too cute...

S2 is so bad that fans are literally making their own instead, starting by fixing Kyururu's garbage character design. Made by the same guy who did the "Bodies hit the floor" video a while back, says the final episode of Kemurikusa healed him and he wants to do something constructive instead of hateful.

Tatsuki

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>and they could’ve explored themes about the wild side of animals vs the tame side,
Yeah, that is what I was trying to point out
Doggo and any other (wild) Friend would have been a better companions for shitty MC
With doggo the writers could have been given the chance to explore how different could be the relationship/behaivor between a human and a domesticated friend,so far all the friends in S1 and S2 have been wild animals by nature

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Best girl.

>Made by the same guy who did the "Bodies hit the floor" video
which video is that?

that's a hentai game right?

Next time on Kemono Friends R

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It's also free.

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thank you friend for the information

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>He wasn't there for the .kfp videos before they got deleted

Buddy you missed out on some premium lolz.

Tibetan fox doesn't look right with a smile on her face

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Foxes are simply too lewd

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Sadly, yeah satan, I wasn't there

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But some of them are on youtube and an user save some videos on Mega.

/zell999 blog fc2 com/

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There, done it

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based stream user

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Beautiful

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There's also this video
youtube.com/watch?v=k8bRIuYNobc

Kemono Friends 2 had issues.

Mainly, for me, Tiger's last scene in the last episode.

But I Don't Give 10 Fucks. Kemono Friends 2 was a different tanoshii... But it sure as fuck wasn't Shield Bro or any other piece of shit anime that thought it was okay to treat (young) men like shit.

>Alzheimer's Kaban
Please no.

>Apparently the beast concept came from the Fanfiction
It certainly felt like it did.

Friends...

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I miss the silly laid back atmosphere.

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Fellow fans on Twitter are also trying to recover from the loss.

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I recover a little thanks to the stream.

Reminder
>Manga Kemono Friends: Welcome to Japari Park is the first Kemono Friends
>A second eruption caused the Ceruleans to exist
>Mobile Games
>Humans lose, friends left to fend for themselves
>Season 1 Anime happens
>timeskip
>Season 2 happens

>someone did an edit of the photo

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ITT
>delusional autist sperg out over a different iteration of the same fucking show and say they can do better

Worse then the fucking Pokemon Gen 1 Purest.

Think happy thoughts.

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FACT: Friends a

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bin chicken can't sing

Could you say this to toki's face, staring at her eyes, and break her heart?

>no fennec

Gladly.

Fact: Friends are

Friends are for

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Sharing with black bulls.

Press F to pay respects

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I dropped this after the Seal/Dolphin episode but what did they actually do to Kaban?

Trust me, you don't want to know. I'd drop after ep 3 too if I were wiser.

tags: mindbreak, netorare

test

Imagine not being in a relationship and still getting cucked

F-fuck

Has there been any word from the production team as to the negative reaction this series got? I know the Nips detested it as well

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They made the VAs apologize for them. Again.
Arai-san nearly cried.

What, again? When?

First time was after firing tatsumaki, and now they had this event where they're be showing the final 2 episodes, hosted by director and producer, and some VAs.
Until they announced the director and producer actually weren't coming, due to a "mistake", which left the VAs all on their own to apologize on their behalf. Again.

Hahaha oh man, they are literal scum.

I just watched Kemono Instinct and am hooked, is the source of this translated? I can't read enough japanese for the original fanfic.

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DID U RIKE IT

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Honestly it's good that they didn't go. Nothing they could have said or done could have mitigated the shitstorm and it would have only gotten worse and worse.

Hopefully this whole thing can die down a bit and if they are at all smart they'll cut as many ties as possible with S2 for the upcoming game. As much as I don't like what they did with S2, I don't want this franchise to die.

>As much as I don't like what they did with S2, I don't want this franchise to die.
You don't need to worry about the franchise because nothing will happen to it no matter how much shit mad autists attempt to stir up.

The VAs did nothing wrong

>Honestly it's good that they didn't go. Nothing they could have said or done could have mitigated the shitstorm and it would have only gotten worse and worse.
Oh fuck you. The director and producer are the ones in charge, the highest level on the credits. They absolutely could and should have at least tried to shield the poor VAs and any other low levels, stood up and been point person for the shit. And that in fact could have mitigated the shitstorm in a small way, obviously not completely because it's not like it'd undo S2 being shit, but it's something. Like, do you really think it made things BETTER to force the VAs to go out and apologize nearly in tears again? FFS

Which is why seiyuu shield is such a dick move.

What made the S2 so bad? I still don't understand why it's so hated. Because they fired the original director?

> Like, do you really think it made things BETTER to force the VAs to go out and apologize nearly in tears again?

Yes, because if you think those two faggots (Especially the producer) would have actually apologized and ate the shit apologetically you're delusional. If they take the bait and fan the flames on twitter it'd be only worse if they appeared in the flesh during an event.

The nips are not retarded, they know the VAs did nothing wrong and thus they won't get any flak.

Is it cowardly? Yes it is, and scummy. But I still think their PR management made the right decision there.

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If only I had some plane tickets and a way to get guns in Japan
I'll make those motherfuckers cry

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>S2 so bad
It's not "so" bad. It's worse than S1, I think a lot of people would agree. But it's not as bad as the spergs make it look here and there (in Japan).
The entire drama can be summed up with "when memes become too real".
Never let memes get to your head.

I can't believe beep has big fat tits

Right back at you user. The "oh this hated show actually isn't so bad" contrarianism is at least as irritating as the more rabid ragers. Stuff like is all real and actually was there. The shitty animation actually happened. It was a bad show man.

And yeah, bad shows happen all the time. Yeah, it wouldn't be a HATED show if it wasn't a sequel to something people liked. But so what? When a company tries to utilize a known loved property for profit it's completely fair that it cuts both ways: do it well and get a boost that wouldn't have happened otherwise, do it badly and get bigger backlash then something fresh too. That's not unreasonable.

The post you linked is the perfect example of when you let memes distort your reality.

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Honest answer? The fact that it's a sequel to S1, yet they decided to nuke Kaban and Serval's relationship (The fans' favorite from S1) for no good reason. This is the part everyone is offended about, the rest is just piss icing on the shit cake.

Aside from that, the production values are not good and that can mostly be blamed on management. People also aren't happy with the way they treated some of the new characters.

This is my fetish.

It's legitimately the worst show I've ever seen. I would rather recommend Boku no Pico than it.

They nuked kaban and boss too. And kaban and everyone else.

First season had fun adventures with fun friends and an exciting finale.
Second season turned friends into selfish girls, the adventure had almost no interesting dialogue or plot points and the finale failed to deliver in any capacity.

In S2 the friends had to be shipped to the main character in auschwitz wagons

scums

jesus christ how the fuck are you faggots able to defend, or worse: sided with the directors after all this?

They're despicable neutrals is what they are.

By using your brain and not be a brainwashed bandwagoner.
With the little official information we have, directors and the production committee would be the last people to blame about this situation.

>September 2018, an account that is dedicated to slandering Tatsuki and Yaoyorozu(pic related) gets made
>it immediately gets very friendly with the producer Hosoya
>they happily chat and praise KF2
>it supports Hosoya in everything and defends KF2 in Hosoya's tweets calling anyone who criticizes KF2 a Tatsuki cultist
>for some reason, it also retweets Aikatsu news, another Hosoya's show
>April 1, Hosoya's twitter suddenly goes silent and so does the anti-Tatsuki account
>people start suspecting that it's Hosoya's secret account
>today it gets deleted
My sides.

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>bandwagoner.
even if i like S2 but then knowing that they used the VA to apologize AGAIN because how bad this season is, i just know who is in the wrong here

>reflexive contrarian calling anyone else brainwashed
>literally asserts the VAs are more at fault for S2 being bad then the directors and production committee
Holy shit.

Hosoya was involved in Aikatsu? Fuck it's all coming together now.

>n-no Hosoya is the last person to blame b-bandwagoner!!

hey remember that kumamiko directors that flailed so hard he quit and retired forever from the industry?

is there any way we can do this to kimura and mine ?

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>directors and the production committee would be the last people to blame about this situation
THE LAST PEOPLE FAGGOT? The poor innocent DIRECTORS AND PRODUCTION COMMITTEE FUNDING THE WHOLE THING were all taking orders from, who, the voice actors? Random low level college grad animators? The fucking janitor?

No, I'm just saying that we have no idea what really happened except what was officially communicated (see pic).

So if I really had to blame someone for this drama, Yaoyorozu would be the prime suspect. Fukuhara (the producer at Yaoyorozu) and Tatsuki have always been vocal about production committees and how the whole system doesn't reward animation studios enough. They always wanted more revenue and more control over the IP they don't own. And with how popular KF1 got, it's very likely that they got a tiny bit too cocky and started making demands and got greedy.

The promo episodes they made for JRA and Nissin don't help either. I always thought those look completely out of place and "out of character", especially the JRA one. So what was this even about? Money? Greed?

If the rabid shitters didn't cause so much drama, the VAs wouldn't have to apologize for anything.

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You know the horse Friends for the JRA collab were designed by Mine right?

You completely miss the point.
It's about the idea of making a promo episode, completely disconnected from the lore and the setting, for money. It immediately felt like selling out to me.

Kemono Instinct shows that it's possible to create a great Kemono Friends story without Tatsuki being involved. It's true that he set the foundations for success and provided a set of building blocks for new stories to be created though, but Tatsuki not being involved in S2 wasn't necessarily the death blow (albeit a slap in the face for all his hard work and dedication).

Thing is, S2 dug up those foundations, melted down those building blocks and left a twisted heap of debris in its place, seemingly for the sake of destroying everything that had come before, and going "Look, tanoshii! That's why you're here, right? Never mind any deeper themes about friends caring for each other, or digging deeper into the mystery behind wtf happened at the park and where all the humans went, or anything like that, or resolving anything that happened in S1."

>what was officially communicated

Hosoya's still involved, unfortunately. He even made himself a character in the show.
Now I'm sure that the current state of Aikatsu is also his fault. Hosoya ruins anything he touches.
He's an idiot full of himself. Apparently, Hosoya is from an influential family and likely has got his position through connections and not because of his talents.
No wonder he detests real and skilled professionals.

You think Yaoyorozu not only violated the copyright and trademark of Kemono Friends, but also that of Nissin and JRA, just to make an unauthorized commercial out-of-pocket?

The first stage play was great as well and Tatsuki had nothing to do with it. So yeah it's possible to still make great KF media without him. Unfortunately KF2 was a failure at every level.

>unauthorized
That post never said that. You are inventing things.

>He even made himself a character in the show.

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Link to those promo eps? I never saw them.

I'm assuming he's the reason they got Kimura to direct in the first place.

Right, the brown nosers are using Tatsuki as a strawman now. Yeah, people were pissed about how he got screwed after rescuing the show from the dead. But frankly speaking most fans would have gotten past it if his spirit had lived on and S2 had in fact been good.

The problem is that it was not in fact good. It sucked. Standalone, watching S1 and then S2 back to back with absolutely zero idea of any of the drama or any real people involved S2 was a bad sequel and mediocre in general. It's not as if nobody else could have done a good sequel, obviously that's not true because even fans have done cool Kemono stories. But the actual produced S2 wasn't good. WHY it wasn't good can be debated but the context is the actual badness not some theoretical problem.

Like I said, the basis of this entire drama thing is dismissing the few official statements we have and inventing reality based on twitter rumours.

Use your head my dudes. Be kashikoi free thinkers.

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They are on nyaa

anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=character&charid=83657
Yes, he asked Kimura to direct KF2 because they are old friends.

>the basis of this entire drama
No you fucking retard. The basis of this entire drama is:
A) S2 sucked ass
B) We know the guy who directed S1 which was something we liked was tossed.
C) We know perfectly fucking well that low level staff and contractors and shit weren't calling the shots what the shit.

You're the one desperately trying to spin everything.

>all these mental gymnastic to put yyz in the wrong

jesus christ. i don't see anyone from yyz using VA as shield

>based on twitter rumors
Are you seriously incapable of actually just observing what happens IRL regardless of what "official statements" are made?

>Use your heads
Oh the ironing.

>works that Yaoyorozu, the studio that handled, used without contacting or sharing information through the appropriate channels
e.g. unauthorized

A cheap 3DCG series being bad doesn't cause so much drama. Bad series happen. Bad sequels happen too.

It all has to do with a cult of personality and butthurt that literally spawned from rumours. The butthurt machine is creating even more butthurt and is now self-sustained.
People don't even know anymore why exactly they are so buttravaged about. At this point they'll be actively seeking things to be mad about. On purpose.

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It only means that there we communication issues.

Chaldea needs to rayshift a Master to 2017 to fix this singularity.

>official statement
>when KADOWAKA, one of the biggest largest company in japan can easily manipulate any statement in social media however they please

lol yeah, official statement stated that S2 is good

use your head this time user, be kashikoi

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are prohibiting me to be mad they used VAs as shield AGAIN?

WHAT THE FUCK?

it's their project lmao
if you don't trust official statements from the project owner then you can always wait for an official statement from the other side...
it's been more than year already though and still no comm from yyz

haha imagine being a friend

god i wish that were me

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>A cheap 3DCG series being bad doesn't cause so much drama. Bad series happen. Bad sequels happen too.
You're engaging in bull sleight-of-hand too. Bad original series happen and don't cause much drama yeah. But bad sequels absolutely cause drama, every time. And the more liked and more enthusiastic the fans of the original were (and that's particularly likely to be the case when it's a series that goes viral out of nowhere due to having some special spark to it) the bigger the backlash if the sequel is bad.

This is always true, and IT'S ALSO ALWAYS CORRECT. Again, this is the 100% fair part of the choice here by the company trying to make money: if you go original, you get to have no expectations and no extra drama, but have to market from scratch. If you try to piggy back off something loved, you get a big initial boost for free, but you better live up to that or you will earn scorn that wouldn't have happened otherwise. These aren't fucking charities asshole, they're for-profit corporate creations.

>People don't even know anymore why exactly they are so buttravaged about
No, you're just willfully contrarian, projecting your own self onto the world. There is nothing odd about people being angry something they liked and had hopes for got wrecked unnecessarily.

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>it's their project lmao
Which has any meaning whatsoever how? Yeah they own the copyright but you do know user that you can form your own opinions about it right? Right?

>There is nothing odd about people being angry something they liked and had hopes for
Yep. But then there's a difference between being upset about an anime sequel not living up to your expectation and acting like a complete lunatic.

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Imagine being a friend and getting tricked into sex for food by a park manager

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You're the one acting like a complete lunatic though man.

>Which has any meaning whatsoever how?

it has meaning compared to rumors as it is an official statement so yes, it's wiser to form your opinions around an official statement than a twitter rumor or an anonymous post on the internet

yeah amurika will find those wmds in iraq any day now

S-shut up, they're just hidden very well.

At the point KF was at when the anime released, Yaoyorozu deserved taking the reigns of the IP. Irodori were the only people that gave a shit about KF until it started making crazy money. KFP wanted control over the IP, now that it had become successful, and Yaoyorozu felt that they deserved it (rightfully so).

I have no idea what Fukuhara or any of the other studio higher ups wanted but I'm pretty sure all Tatsuki wanted to do was make more KF.

>and Yaoyorozu felt that they deserved it
"And now no one can have it! You mad Kadokawa?" -- Tat "Passion Is What Drives Me" Suki

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>People don't even know anymore why exactly they are so buttravaged about
Because it was a fucking awful sequel to a show a lot of people liked. Its not that hard to use the framework of KF to make something people like. Kimura said it himself and yet he made an absolute dogshit show after talking himself up and insulting Tatsuki. There were so many glaring errors throughout the whole run but he was too busy banning people on Twitter.

KDKW has it though. Its not Tatsuki's fault they didnt hire a competent director.

They wanted to spread Kemono Friends around the world... the funny thing (in retrospect) is, they came so close to succeeding.

>Irodori were the only people that gave a shit about KF until it started making crazy money.

They got hired to do a job.
So what now? You hire a studio to animate your series and then if the series is a success they take you hostage and start making demands?

>Your project? No no no. MY project. Now pay me and let me use your IP however I want or you'll have to deal with a global internet butthurt.

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You dont even know if thats what happened. You're blatantly speculating just as hard as the people you accuse of blatantly speculating. Tatsuki straight up said he wasnt paid royalties for scripts he wrote, which doesnt sound like someone that is doing everything he can to hold the series hostage.

>Obviously non-canon advertisement felt weirdly non-canon
Holy fucking shit.

Imagine using your day off to pretend to be a corporate bootlicker for replies.

>Tatsuki straight up said he wasnt paid royalties for scripts he wrote, which doesnt sound like someone that is doing everything he can to hold the series hostage.
Read up what happened, it's pretty interesting. If he takes over someone's job in the middle of the production then he should have made sure it's written in the contract. Anyway, Tatsuki also seems focused too much on getting credited. It makes sense; of course; but he's focusing a bit too much on "me me me and me gimme rewards" in my opinion.

If he really was doing this out of pure passion like his defenders claim, he wouldn't be trying to pick a fight with his employer and would have just continued making good KF series.

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imagine spending your day off on Yea Forums...

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Nice
nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34901824

Imagine using your day off to watch niconico.

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Imagine having days off.

Well it's not like we have any Friends anymore.

Imagine not using your day off to masturbate to Friends

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I think you're too focused on making up shit to badmouth Tatsuki. Try to do something useful for a change.

>trying to pick a fight with his employer and would have just continued making good KF series
Again, you have absolutely no way of knowing that this actually happened. By applying Occam's Razor to the information we know, higher ups taking control of the IP once it showed it could be successful is the only logical conclusion in contrast to the backflips you're doing.
Also, The director doesnt have to follow a writers at all times, if at all. If your writer is fucking trash the most polite way to not use their garbage is to still credit them as the writer, which was done.

>replacing the actually well done first ED with PS1 era cover art
Even when they did something right they still managed to fuck it up

>Again, you have absolutely no way of knowing that this actually happened
Yes I know that, it's all speculation.
>higher ups taking control of the IP once it showed it could be successful is the only logical conclusion
They already have the IP. They already have all the control they want. They only want profit and Tatsuki was JUST their man for the job.

Unfortunately for everyone, and I mean it, for EVERYONE, Tatsuki might have had other plans.

>Yes I know that, it's all speculation.
It's not all speculation.
1. The owners own the IP and have control.
This is basic law. Of COURSE they buck stops there, they're ultimately the ones who control everything. They also make the profits. It's their responsibility.

2. The owners made changes to the team.
This is also clear and official. Now if this was back when it happened and we were talking theoretically about whether those changes were good or bad, you could argue it, but at this point that's moot because:

3. The result sucked.
This is what ends debate about the above: the original was good, changes were made, and the result was bad. Which means the changes were in fact wrong. And the owners are responsible for those changes. So we are justified in shitting on them.

Everything else you spout is a pile of hand wavey bullshit. We don't need any official statements or to have ever gone on twitter or anywhere else to see the results with our own eyes. It's right there in the credits of the show.

>give some cheap indie studio the freedom to just do whatever, the IPs dead anyway.
>gets successful
>take away freedom
>studio doesnt like this. Tries to negotiate
>fire them
>somehow the studio is the bad guy

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It's more likely that Hosoya had other plans. Judging by his statements, he was barely involved with S1. After the sudden success he decided to take the lead and fired Tatsuki in the process. Because Hosoya is an idiot.

>The owners made changes to the team.
The team (studio) resigned.

And it can be speculated that they left because their employer didn't want to cave in to their demands.

It's not the other way around. It's not Kadokawa who suddenly decided that the man who made KF1 a huge success was actually shit and should be removed.

if kimura and mine are innocent then why the anime is shit?

checkmate atheists

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I'm now starting to wonder if Hosoya played a bigger role in this entire mess than what we initially thought.

>complains about speculation
>suggests speculation

>complains about speculation
You are inventing things again.
Speculate around what little we know is all we can do. Nothing wrong with that.

It more of the old owls died so the new ones have no idea what she is talking about when Kaban gets her panic attacks.

Are you this stupid in person too?

You are upset.

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Definitely. Since it was Hosoya who brought in Kimura, it's reasonable to suspect that he also got rid of Tatsuki.

Watch out user you're kinda speculating right there

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Clearly.
The most plausible theories are always "[insert name] is an asshole".
First it was Mine, now it's Hosoya.

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Did Kaban in the end of S1 turn into a real human after being processed by the Big Dog? She had to revert to the original form, after all.
If so, then she's not a Friend anymore and the theory of "regenerating clothes" holds no water. Then what can explain the gloves?

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What a coincidence. Hosoya is a gigantic asshole.

Besides if sandstar can easily produce Friends from human hair and other waste, there should have been plenty of human Friends during the time of the Park's regular activity, and all the associated problems it could have happened. But nothing mentions that.
So Kaban's case must be one of a kind, but why?

Why do you think this matters? Like, let's just assume your imagination is correct:
>And it can be speculated that they left because their employer didn't want to cave in to their demands.
Well since the result was shit maybe the employer SHOULD have "caved into their demands". You seem to take it as a given that the successful team should have been blown off, but since the actual for real result was fucking shit it's more likely the successful team was correct and management was wrong.

>It's not the other way around. It's not Kadokawa who suddenly decided that the man who made KF1 a huge success was actually shit and should be removed.
This is just your speculation and not supported by any of the official evidence, but again taking you as correct as a given for argument: yes it is still Kadokawa's fault anyway. "We demand a raise and more control or we quit" for example, well NOT giving a raise is still a choice. It's not a moral thing, it's business. If the people demanding it have skills that you can easily replicate and replace with no problem, then their demands aren't worth it and you can go ahead and let them go. But if they're key people to the success of the project that you are incapable of replacing, then if you let them go in a huff it's you being retarded. It's not wrong for those lower down the ladder to have some bargaining power too, not just management.

Kadokawa is also responsible for who came in afterwards. There are clearly people who could have continued it well, it's not like Tatsuki is literally the only human on the planet who could do it of course. But whomever such people are, Kadokawa sure as fuck didn't find them. They parachuted in a shitty hack instead. That again points to the management being dysfunctional.

She's still a Friend.
Why she didn't revert to her original form is a mystery which can only because explained by the usual explanation of KF lore: because fuck you that's why.
What is even her original form in the first place? Mirai's hair strand or Mirai herself?

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tl;dr but let me just reiterate the most important fact:
- KF1 was made by Tatsuki and was a huge success
- Tatsuki had a lot of freedom as he was both the writer and director and could even make non-canon promo projects
- Tatsuki doesn't like the committee system governing anime production in Japan
- YYZ resigns due to incompatible views with their employer

Which friend is the easiest?

>but why
Well... because fuck you that's why

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The original form is an animal phenotype that Sandstar materialized (therefore reverting a Mammoth for example will result in a (supposedly alive) mammoth animal and not fossils).
Since Sandstar embodies the ideas rather than particular animal specimens, it will not revert to Mirai but just into a stereotypical human.

I prefer to think of it as the cerudog not having time to completely "digest" her, and thus she reverted to her Friend form when they managed to retrieve her.

This is the only explanation that doesn't create inconsistencies.

>- Tatsuki doesn't like the committee system governing anime production in Japan
He's never said anything like this, Fukuhara started criticizing the committee system but he only started after 9/25 and I can't really blame him for that.

That image makes me think of Chrno Crusade's ending.

Aside from that plothole, it also seems too strange that the entirety of Kaban will regenerate in seconds before Serval's eyes, but the gloves won't be finished in over a month during the 12th timeskip.

>Besides if sandstar can easily produce Friends from human hair and other waste, there should have been plenty of human Friends during the time of the Park's regular activity, and all the associated problems it could have happened. But nothing mentions that.
>So Kaban's case must be one of a kind, but why?
Who knows, but something tied into the disaster presumably. One total speculation: the other friends are from actual animals right, living creatures. That's what the normal sparkly sandstar reforms right? But human hair or remains isn't actually alive, though it's also not fully inorganic like the rocks "sandstar low" (I forgot the exact name, the black particles though) turns into ceruleans. Maybe creating a human Friend from remains actually isn't easy, or maybe it takes a rare combination of both kinds of sandstar. And that would have been blocked by the shield until it malfunctioned. Kaban would be a unique bit of lucky chance directly tied to there being ceruleans too.

spotted the anime only pleboïd

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>could even make non-canon promo projects
You say this as if it's an odd thing Tatsuki decided to do unilaterally but we know the production comittee gave its ok, and it's not anything out of the ordinary for a succesful IP to be used in a commercial.

Some animal that is naturally polyamorous presumably, which isn't uncommon. There are also animals that do mating pairs for life (or close enough) though. And even those that don't might only want the strongest/toughest who have proven themselves fighting each other, which might not meet your idea of "easy" either since anyone on this board would probably get their asses kicked and be relegated to the edges.

Wrong the answer is "all of them"
Friends are inherently lewd

Apparently multiple Friends of the same type is a rare event, so having only one human Friend makes sense.

>OUR Kemono Friends 2
Blessed those who can't read Japanese. This is Hosoya orgasming over ep9. He's a psychopath.
abematimes.com/posts/5875374

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there's supposed to be more mysteries about her, mysteries about how the fuck sandstar works, why kaban hand grew black substance or why didn't she revert back to mirai after got eaten.
it seems she has much more mysteries that also related to the entire world building of kemono friends, the sandstar, the cerulean, kako, mirai, everything.

but now that's not important anymore, now it's about kyururu drawings.

i can never forgive this one

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>multiple Friends
Guidebooks say it's like having twins.
>Twins are by far the most common form of multiple births in humans. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report more than 132,000 sets of twins out of 3.9 million births of all kinds each year, about 3.4%, or 1 in 30.
3% is pretty high to be desu.

Or maybe they meant identical twins? Which is 0.45% according to google.

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Right, but it has to have been a long time since there were any humans, friends or otherwise, given both the state of decay and the fact that most friends must have gone through at least a cycle or two of devolution/stanstar'ing and thus forgotten their old memories AND not have been able to pass them onto any subsequent friends. Or else maybe they got 100% wiped during the initial cerulean disaster and only came back into being over time afterwards.

Still, making a human friend must take something unlikely or there would have been at least one or two already. Though maybe it's just dumb chance, where sandstar particles happen by luck to fall and there not being that many remains left any longer.

Don't blame S2 for S1 introducing human Friends that don't follow any of the established rules.

Does anybody have that reaction image of Jaguar based on pop team epic where she says "Oh I understand it" but in reality she has no clue?

We're sorry Tatsuki couldn't read the future to make "correct" S1.

rule of what? the failed mobile game?

some of the world building in mobage contradicts with the one in S1 artbooko

He's a fucking monster. Although at least even his family connections won't get him into a position of responsibility on much.

The established rules that allowed tsuchinoko, Genbu, tachikomas and the freaking Pink Panther to become Friends. But yeah introducing a human Friend completely broke the lore.

Don't forget turning the entire Keroro platoon into cute girl versions of themselves.

Humans are animals however so the lore disallowing them was broken originally.

I can only read automatic translations, but this is basically something like "people were sad about qt dog girl abuse, epic success & best episode!", right?

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Sandstar transforms whatever fits the narrative into cute female humanoid waifs. When the waif dies, she returns to her original form and loses all the memories of her laif as a waif.
Yet, Kaban didn't return to her original form and didn't lose her memories even though she got transformed into a shapeless blob of sandstar.

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replace pigeon with Tsuchinoko and Cerulean with Riku

>tfw we won't know the REAL answer

fuck everything

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Memories are lost because animals can't have human memories or at least can't express that they do, since they can't talk (remember that when asked about that the Friends said "you can't talk anymore").
That's not the case with returning back to human of course.

>Memories are lost because animals can't have human memories or at least can't express that they do
Sounds good.
But why didn't she return to a real human bean then since it's her original form?

>anyone on this board would probably get their asses kicked
Even moose and lion are like fucking 5'3" I could snap them in half
Wouldn't even have to, because they too are idiotic enough to just believe me (or anyone else) when I tell them "I'm really strong" without proving it.

A moving episode that makes you cry. He praised it like the second coming of Jesus.
He probably thought they made a new Hachiko.

HIS GOAL
WAS THE DO THE DOG DIRTY

Actually it's the long ones are what's easier to snap in half. Shorties are stacky and stand firm on the ground.

Go drink water, Cerulean.

What species of a penguin does Tatsuki have on his mask?

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It was a figure of speech, user.
My "snap in half" I meant "impress with my strength (which isn't even that much, about average for my age/height) and fuck them into a cock addiction over the course of several days."

twitter.com/cuzkimono/status/1114370433497718784
The ride never ends.

aidoru

You played yourself, user.

Do we have a release date for the SEGA game?

>then: watched KF to get healed from work
>now: go to work to get healed from KF2 trauma

it's so tiresome. is there any healing show this season?

2019

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the fuck do you mean
fucking friends is life's goal.

Yeah, they released a prequel to KF2, released it in one go!
Depending on what you like, kaguya-sama might be for you. Romance comedy, with a twist put on the usual pussying about in the form of both of the main characters being sure their love is mutual, but too proud to confess first. Shenanigans ensue.

have you tried not being such a pussy bitch nigga?

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how does this keep happening

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Serval was weak as hell and she lifted the front end of the bus. (Until KF2 made her a super cerulean killer but that shit's non canon).

I guess that episode could be used as a test of sorts.

If dog had been the series' first ecchi character, that'd have been fine with me.

At most it disturbs the flow of the storytelling, but S2 had almost no flow anyhow. It'd not really have changed anything other than reducing the pointless meanness.

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That not what "do dirty" means, user.

I told you I would do it

>serval carrying a bus
thank you for reminding me of this moment of pure delirium
kaban came up with the genius idea of bridges but how did she know that serval could bend the laws of physics?
also, you can see serval merge with the bus at 10s mark

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I've made up my mind, you're now my boyfriend, user. No buts!
Now come here and kiss me.

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Dayum shame we didn't get to see Shoebill this season

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Thats for the better

Indian duck was good standin

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A deal is a deal user
Now you have to lick my armpits

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Why is that cat pretending to be a lazy shrine maiden?

What about animals with albinism or melanism?

You just don't understand, you've participated in an ambitious experiment. It's the first anime written by ceruleans.

They exist like Black Leopard and Black Jaguar, not sure if they count as two of the same Friend though.

>Implying I'd kiss a bin juice connoiseur (more like connoisewer lmao)

If this were true, it'd be much lewder.
The increased curves on all friends points to maybe one or two ceruleans working on modeling.

They poured Ceruleum on the S1 script.

>dayum shame Kimura couldn't shit on Shoebill and bully her

Gladly, but you have to sing me a song afterwards.

Wait a couple days for Senko-san's anime to start. Fluffy fox wife taking care of a burned out wage-slave and teaching him to enjoy life again.

According to the owls, a cerulean turns a friend into their original form, but Kaban's original form is a human too, so she kept her memories.
Tatsuki didn't want to end the show on a tragedy so that is the explanation he came up with. He took advantage of the already vague explaination of sandstar to give us a good ending. If he wanted a tragedy, Kaban would have either lost her memories or turned her back into a strand of hair.
There are a lot of things you can debate about sandstar anyway. What happens when a cerulean turns a non existent animal (Tsuchinoko) or an extinct animal (Mammoth) into their original form? Does it make the impossible exist? Does it raise the dead?

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Doga Kobo does it again

Sea lion is so sexy.

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That's why you don't leave the script unattended.
Or boycott harder so it doesn't seep through the wall.

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In my headcanon Kaban didn't turn back into a hair for the same reason she's able to start growing her clothes back in the end. The Cerulean didn't finish eating her so she didn't lose all her sandstar.

Because Jaguar, Otter, and Serval were easily moving it together. She likely assumed that Serval should be strong enough to move it by herself, of course if this wasn't the case they would be back at square one.

Beat me to my own image.

>Does it raise the dead?
That I doubt since it's clear Kaban is a separate existence from Mirai.
Kemurikusa did something similar with Wakaba

>Tatsuki didn't want to end the show on a tragedy so that is the explanation he came up with.
It's not black and white like that.
I'm sure he could have come with something that doesn't break the rules without letting Kaban die. If he tried.

Why didn't you make an Yea Forumsnon your cumdump Friend yet?

Extinct animals/UMA are basically pure sandstar, so they would turn back into a bone at most.

>implying I'm reading all that

holy fuck nice paragraph. Just remember, as I leave this thread, that I won. you lost. I was right, you were wrong. Remember in the future to not post some arbitrary graph bullshit and think it applies.

Think about that as you type your response, thinking 'im gonna get this guy'. I wont read it, I will never read it, so I win, because you will never have the satisfaction of besting me. I have bested you, as I got the last word in and have won every single debate since.
I win

Don't know where I read that but I'm sure the animals that had an existing animal as a basis (even if extinct) revert to an animal form, not the fossils. Perhaps that was one of the main reasons why the Park was established, to bring back the species from extinction.

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based

#PunchASchizo
#AutismAwareness
#NoBully

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In the nexon game it was said that they brought extinct animals back via cloning and they got turned into Friends afterwards.

>Fluffy fox wife taking care of a burned out wage-slave and teaching him to enjoy life again.
just checked, it's originally a manga? man i wish there's a dedicated genre with this premise

The manga only started back in 2017, I was surprised it got an anime so soon.

People LOVE fluffy kemono waifus.

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She was in there for hours though. Episode 11 happens some time after nightfall and in 12 they get her out just barely before sunrise. Not to mention the owls explicitly said "She was returning to her original form".

Sorry that was a bit vague. I meant raising the dead as in resurrecting extinct animals. Would a mammoth friend turn into a living breathing mammoth after getting eaten by a cerulean? Would we get a real Tsuchinoko this way?

The rules are pretty vague in the first place. a "Human Friend" is first shown as a concept in KF S1, so he had a lot of freedom to choose how that would work.
I think he did a pretty good job with what he had.

Is Kaban also mostly sandstar? She was created from a single strand of hair after all.

That's what I was asking because I know that White Tiger exists, etc. Do you think they technically count as subspecies?

then they'll LOVE kf2!

we get it bro, you HATE it

I'm sure lewdfags weren't damaged by it in any way and are happy instead that there are now more characters to violate, disregarding the plot problems.

fuming

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yes you are, dumb lewdfag

Does it count as lewding if you just want to make love with them while holding hands for the sole purpose of procreation?

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>for the sole purpose of using them for your needs

You can hold hands without that.

She's still recovering from Lion and Moose

it's less likely to make real animals instead of whatever was transformed (a corpse?) if the species is extinct

What if you want to watch them make love with several black men?

That's pretty gay

Most oft the new friends weren't recognized at all or in a bad manner. Kyururu is mostly drawn as futa, and Shitbird gets raped everytime. There's good content about the dog though.

>so he had a lot of freedom to choose how that would work
He had a lot of freedom because there was no one to stop him. Mine doesn't seem to give a shit about lore and consistency either.

After watching Kemurikusa it feels like he already had a pre-set number of rather rigid ideas to include in each episode.
Episode 11 for example absolutely had to end on a cliffhanger where the main character seemingly dies (Kaban gets stomped in KF, Wakaba gets impaled in KK).

Remember: hugs > fugs.

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I wish there was more grey wolf but im glad she didnt show up so they can bully her

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Here

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yurifags OUT

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nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34929655

Kemono Friends R ED

Not if she gets fertilized while I watch.

Post platypus friend

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Me as lucky beast

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And in this topic
A bunch of fat spergs sperging out over change in a show they think they know everything about
They are similar to Genwunners of the Pokemon Franchise, who only think the first season can't be touched, and all Pokemon introduced after Mew don't count. (And they're dumb enough to include Togepi as one of the original 151.)

What is the best Friend to surrender to the Black Man while you powerlessly watch from the sidelines?

First day on Yea Forums?

They're right though.
Your kind are like the cardfags that support scamco's decision to abandon the original character in Idolmaster and replace them with 100500 cards without any background, voice or character whatsoever. And the plebs supports it.
Now the franchise is in ruins and gets compared to shit like LL, while before that decision it was the undisputed king of idoling.
Those not taught by the history are doomed to repeat it.

Back to Yea Forums with that baseless contrarianism

Been here since it was established. But keep sperging out over a fucking company/animation studio change like you are, I need shit to laugh at.
Keep fucking crying.

>Autistic newfag misinterprets why people are mad about S2

Every time.

Why do they link to mewhan's album, she betrayed the fandom by participating in this shit for the sake of it, because there's no way money could have been the cause for those 2 lines of text she said.

Oh cause it lost it's mystery? One of the biggest mysteries in season 2 was stated in the first episode. Why can't Serval fully remember Kaban.
Cause a new company took over?
Pokemon did the same shit and is still alive.
Animation company changed? Again, Pokemon did it and is still going strong.
Cause they fired the dude who made it? Pretty sure he didn't make the fucking series.
Cause it bullied friends?
Fuck off. They ran Serval over with a bus in episode 2. season 1.

Based shiteater.

You're the one getting angry over a fucking show meant to promote fucking environmentalism and conservation of species that are literally dying.

But keep sperging.

Looks neat.
I wonder if the kadokawa shills are still going to hate this one.
And since we have one here right now, how do you feel about the fandom fixing your fuckups?

>Tatsuki's Friends good
>not Tatsuki's Friends bad
My dude, just look at Touhou. The characters that get introduced every 2 years have just a couple of one-line dialogs and yet...
Nobody cares about your waifu not getting enough screentime. The fan work will complete whatever is missing in the original.
And Friends' personalities are mostly just a matter of which gimmick they have attached to them. Like, this one says "no da", this one says "sugoi", this one looks like it's always high and a racoonsexual. Kind of similar to Kemurikusa actually (this one says "na", this one says "nya", this one says "kininaru").

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>getting angry over a fucking show meant to promote fucking environmentalism and conservation of species that are literally dying
>But keep sperging
irony

Fucking great logic
>Someone disagrees and thinks the hate for season 2 is misguided MUST BE A SHILL
Yep. I'm a 50 year old Japanese man, who types in perfect (not really) English who calls people faggots, spergs, fuckwits, and what not, on this shell of former Yea Forums where we can't even say Nigger.
Fucking wonderful detective skills, asshole.

I'm here, too

youtube.com/watch?v=BD-JQ6BZ2ls
OTTER IN A BALL PIT!

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Touhou also has official manga to sprinkle a bit more to their personality, just saying

>loved thing
>thing gets trashed
>tries to convince themselves that thing was never good so they don't get hurt

I'm sorry.

Since when can't we say nigger?

JUST like Kemono Friends. But no one gives a shit the manga officially came first, and just directs their hate at a timeskipped season 2.
Like a bunch of faggots.

youtube.com/watch?v=eV4QhKlJW8k
TANOSHII!

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Forbidden Scrollery? It helps, but it can't possibly cover a substantial amount of character.

yes

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>no one gives a shit the manga officially came first
Mine doesn't either

Because that wasn't even an "S2" but merely an overgrown promotional video to the upcoming game that answers no questions whatsoever, because otherwise nobody will play it.

Why don't you go back to discord.

Neither did the previous director. Or else, he'd slap Koala in the anime.

FS
WaHH
Loli fairies happy cunny time
SSiB
One or two I still forget

>pokemon
>pokemon
>pokemon

nooooooooo stop posting asses don't you care about the plot you fucking secondary

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That's because most people got hooked into the franchise by S1 and thus whatever is established in S1 (Including the tone) is what's going to mark expectations for these fans in the future. Being surprised by a sequel that makes signficant changes getting backlash is weird as fuck.
It's like some of these people have never been part of a fanbase before.

Can anybody defending KF2 actually give a reason why it was good?

Can't believe Jag gets to shove her face in that every day

It's the best example of this level of sperg out. Spergy.

seething

It's Mine's job to establish continuity between the different projects.

You can say the N word as long as you are being ironic OR if you are an N word yourself.

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Says the sperg who's sperging about people not liking something.

You can't force anyone here to like S2 senpai. Keep sperging about it if you want.

It introduced new friends.

b-but it's animals first, if you really love kemono friends (tm)(r) you shouldn't give a fuck about some unruly hack, but buy more of the merchandise instead and support the company!
that's what liking animal girls means

Why don't you explain what's good about S2, and why you think it should have been well-received?

This is Yea Forums we are all cute 2d girls here

But I'm anonymous, how can anyone know if I'm a nigger to use the word nigger? That doesn't make sense my nigga.

Mine doesn't give a shit so someone else should have been taking care of it. Someone like Tatsuki. Unfortunately, Tatsuki... well... Tatsuki only had Kemurikusa on his mind when he wrote KF1...

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>Autistic newfag misinterprets why people are mad about S2

Every time.

It was good at bringing Kemono Friends back to the public eye again after it ended. Kemono Friends Season 1 wasn't really strong enough to cement a season 2.

personally I am a cute 2d black girl my nigga

Not him but I don't think he ever said that S2 should have been well received.

Better received? Yeah, I think there should have been much less drama surrounding it for sure.

>only had Kemurikusa on his mind
also true for you apparently

If it's never explained and has nothing to do with the plot or story, it's not a mystery.

>Serval fucking died
She didn't mind, it didn't hurt and she got better. The scene was absolutely necessary to demonstrate
- Friends are nearly indestructible to non-ceruleans
- Friends know Friends are nearly indestructible

Lmfao, OK, buddy.
Lord forbid anyone who likes it though, cause you'll jump down their throat and point out every animation error just to make sure they dislike it along with you.

Like a sperg.

Why are huge tits such a natural fit for Arai?

That explains why the idea of making a S2 is good, but it does not explain why the series itself is good or should have been well received.

>jag in a KK thread
uh..... why are Kemuritards so obsessed with KF?

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It brought it back just to kill it again, no way we are going to get another anime anytime soon, no studio in their right mind would touch KF right now.

>LOL SHE'S FINE
>Emotionally abuse her with Mirai images
>toss her down a mountain
>almost freeze her to death
>make her dive into a cerulean for some faggot with a backpack
>hit her with a bus
>kill her in a murder mystery episode

Fuck off, imbecile. There are many reasons to dislike season 2 and if you weren't new to these threads, you would know them.
You talk about wildlife conservation yet they put the least effort in ID the animals, listing Toki as a mammal and such. If they really cared, they would pay a good studio to do the second season.

jaguar was only in S1

Just wait a bit, I'll need to go to /r/kemofure and copy a few predefined responses from there, real quick.

Don't ask just post.

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Except it was the biggest anime of 2017, and already had a season 2 announced shortly after it ended.

Provide one example
>inb4 this conversation

it's the voice, her voice actor has huge tits

>for some faggot with a backpack

Okay, now everything makes sense.

Good bait so far, sir. You got me completely. I admit defeat, here's your (You).

>listing Toki as a mammal
Holy fuck, really? Was it in the omitted wildlife shorts from natgeo?

Real shit? Never seen her, name/pics?

No, user. We were promised new Kaban and Serval's adventures. And got this pile of shit. Of course people are mad.

>new
I was here posting tanoshii since episode 1 of season 1.
Keep sperging though.
Factually wrong.
She makes an appearance in season 2 at Alpaca's cafe.

It was in the actual ep were they list the species, family, etc. when a new character shows up.

>We were promised
You weren't promised anything though.

I got you~

But legit, Serval was put through the fucking wringer in season 1. I think the most she suffered in season 2 was just falling on her head during the big brawl. She showed she can at least keep pace up with Cheetah and Thong-Horn, showing she still has her endurance and strength.

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>sperg
>sperg
>sperg
You are a Friend who loves using buzzwords!

We were. S2 was announced right after S1 ended and Tatsuki was already working on it.

>the thing that looks like a human is listed mammal
Wow, you actually remembered Toki was in season 2. I guess you DID watch it.

Forgot if I said it yesterday butt thank for the stream.
Made me dream of of happy friends.

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Is it lewd to kiss a friend?
Is it lewd to kiss a friend with huge tits?
Is it lewd to kiss a friend with huge tits, wide, childbirthing hips and thick thighs?

>point out every animation error
So just like with the first season, and it didn't stop a lot of people from liking it. If the only way you can enjoy something is by pretending its flaws don't exist and getting mad at others who point them out, then maybe the problem is on your end.

When people exaggerate complaints about S2 they also indirectly criticise S1 too 99% of the time.

SPERG SPELT BACKWARDS IS GREPS

>Tatsuki was already working on it.
He wasn't. It took a lot of time to prepare the production and it didn't lad to anything.

cerulean out

>Tatsuki did season 2
>nothing changed
>just the animation
>This is what Tatsuki planned from the get go

He said he was working on it. I doubt you know better than Tatsuki what Tatsuki was doing.

When people use "99%", they're asspulling. Either bring up some examples or stop posting.

Source.

I agree with you, the "mistreatment" of Friends in S2 is nowhere near the problem people want to make it seem like.

Can we all at least agree that the main problem of S2 was that they decided to do a gay timeskip and ruin Kaban and Serval's relationship for no good reason? Because I think that's what most people are actually mad about, including myself.

This is true.

>He said he was working on it. I doubt you know better than Tatsuki what Tatsuki was doing.
source

Well most of the people in here think they could do a better job at a season 2 of Kemono Friends, they may actually think they're Tatsuki.

By the end of the show, even that place started disliking KF2. The only place that still likes it is probably the discord.

Oh completely agreed upon with the Kaban Serval shit.
But it also makes people interested to watch. For all we know, Serval's dumbass dove into a water cerulean, got spat out as a serval cat, and Kaban had to make a u-turn back to the OG island cause she was stuck on a boat with a wet, angry serval.

We didn't promise to fawn over the piece of shit S2 either so what's your problem here?
Some people have taste, get over it.

I'm pretty sure talking shit about KF2 in that discord is an instant ban.

my complaints with S2:
the first few episodes were boring and not cute at all
the animation was extremely limited and bad. While S1 had some rough spots, the animation showed a lot of action and wasn't static

>Either bring up some examples or stop posting.
Take any criticism you read here about S2 and chances are it'll also apply to S1.

I'm just saying. There's a lot of things I didn't particularly like about S2 too but many of those are also in S1.
I mean, take the 3DCG quality for example, even though I preferred the animation in S1 I'm still not going to say that it was good or that I want more of it.

In some interview after S2 was announced he said that he already had ideas how to continue the story.
And then the disaster happened.

nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34930585

WAN!

I actually started rewatching S2, 4 eps in so far.
Wish me luck, or don't. I want to prove something to myself, but I'm not yet sure what.

I disagree here. Duck was very cute.

Well? Keep posting oppai no da

Wait. "Season 1 had some rough spots"
The entirety of season 1 was a fucking rough spot animation wise. It was less polished then that fairy anime/cgi show.

4 is probably the highest point of S2, it all goes down from that point. With the worst being 6,9 and 12.

Sure

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>ruin Kaban and Serval's relationship for no good reason
I'd tend to agree with that. I would have preferred a season about Kaban and Serval too.

I also didn't like the last Tiger scene. There was no reason to cover her in rubble.
Though, people bitch about how they "killed" the tiger, yet they say that Friends are nigh indestructible...

S1 didn't have framerate issues, characters warping, or a bunch of scenes where characters stand around and do nothing instead of at least having some kind of idle animation.

Next.

yeah, "a few" rough spots imo

It was for a while. What this means is that even after banning people who criticized KF2 and KDKW, and downvoting to hell every negative opinion, the few people left still don't like KF2.

Post Arai's VA already for f*ck's sake

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It's amazing how an OC has more personality than whatever we actually got.

Well either a meteor exploded over her at that exact moment, or the friends THREW rubble at her from the shore.

>S1 didn't have framerate issues

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Oh sorry I thought you were talking about R****t. Maybe you're right about the Discord, I don't know.

Do you think there can be a logical explanation to that behaviour? I mean I can't believe kdkw would actually bother to buy their mods for that, if it's not money then why would you do it? Are libtards just that delirious in every aspect?

rough models =/= bad animation

It's hard to catch for western viewers because you spend most of your time looking at the bottom of the screen to read the subs, but the animation in S1 is high level. Not because it's Pixar level, but because of the attention to detail. The little things Tatsuki does breathes life into the characters and the world that surrounds them.

behoimi.org/post/index?tags=saki&commit=Search&page=1

Have you seen these threads? They don't want a fucking meltdown in their server, obviously

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it was a constant framerate through the whole show

What friends would you guys like to see get BLACKED?

>bunch of scenes where characters stand around and do nothing
lol

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Mother fucker, Kaban like, 70 percent of the time had the eye focus of Kermit the god damn frog and the blankest fucking stare ever.
They didn't even animate the lips to the fucking voice actors a good 90 percent of the time.

why? I'm having fun having a meltdown, it's good shit

muh safespace, rather stick their fingers in their ears than listen to the truth

But that's the most fun thing about communication, why have a social network without shitposting.

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Amazing oppai no da
Keep it up into next thread too!

arghhhhh janny the lewdfags are deplotting my masterpiece of storytelling

To the S2 shill, I still haven't see any attempts at justifying the usage of S1 OST and jokes instead of coming up with something completely new, as fitting for something with a "season 2" label on it.
Riddle me this.

This, it's pure catharsis. Once a new thread pops up we can all go back to being friends.

cope

S1 had little things like Serval's cat ears reacting to sound, in S2 the animal ears were just decoration.

what's with people bashing season 1 all of the sudden

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fuming

Why do bands play their most popular songs at live performances!? IT'S A FUCKING RIDDLE

Guys? No one?

Well why not? Good anime tend to be well-received. If everyone thought it were bad and badly-received, there'd be nothing to disagree about.

Season 2 also had them make their animal noises more often.

I'm assuming the shitposting is just because it's past bump limit, not that I mind, I need to vent my frustrations.

>the usage of S1 OST and jokes
Because ti's cool and funny what is wrong with you. It's like you are literally living just to get buttdevastated.

We're being raided again.

Why do bands release new albums consisting entirely of the old one?
Oh wait they don't, unless explicitly labeled as "best of compilation".

S2 had batfox's ears react to the ship's sonar...

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people keep responding to it
successful troll is successful

Just one contrarian faggot

People who bash S2 indirectly bash S1 as well, that's what.

It's derivative and creatively bankrupt.

Why are we doing this?

It's Sunday. I'm wasting my life. This is all time I will never get back. Do I really have nothing better to do than shitpost in KF threads past bump limit?

THERE MUST BE MORE TO LIFE.

Cause if they used a new song for season 2, you'd complain about how souless it is, you sperg.

Nope we're all here forever. This is the hell Kimura has created.

Two ways to defend KF2

>It's not that bad
>KF1 wasn't that good either

raided by who? the reddit discord faggots?

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then they would have reused the models as well

Season 1 only existed as a vehicle to promote season 2.

If 99% of what people hate in S2 was in S1, then why was S1 so successful? Fucking idiot

>this thread gets twice as many replies past the bump limit as the kemuritard thread gets all day
oh wew

There's no need to defend KF2, that's the problem with perma-angry autists. you misunderstand the situation completely.

If you want to shit on it go ahead, but before making your shitpost, THINK if your criticism can't also be applied to S1 too.

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The Reddit Discord faggots are the worst, what a bunch if cunts.

It only means that it's nothing but shitposting lmao you just confirmed it yourself.

You have to go back.

>namedropping
>witchhunting
>cross site dramafagging
yep, the outsiders are raiding Yea Forums again

For fuck's sake, you guys really don't want to see some hot mandingo with your favorite Friends?

This is peak arguing

Yeah, everyone here, on Twitter, on 5ch, on 2chan, Niconico, Bilibili, etc etc are just shitposting. You've got it all figured out.

Oh I see, so their strategy for avoiding shit ratings turned out to be a huge success.
or not
no, back to your piss-colored boards

Yeah, let's also cite Yea Forums and Yea Forums that would totally not make you look like an outsider completely new to Yea Forums, anonymous BBSs and Internet in general.

What, not using your trip anymore?

Gotta watch out for dem boogie mans.

>lmao
Every time.

keep dreaming

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this thread in a nutshell

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The discord furries.

or was it the discord trannies?

No one will even remember Kemurikuso in a month. At least you guys had fun while it aired.

You're probably one of those who think that since major bias to negative votes for S2 was "caused by bots" then the same bias for positive votes in S1 also wasn't real.
It's tough living with paranoia.

>season 1 tells us to be kind to everyone, not everyone can do everything and to accept people for what they are
>season 2 awakens the chimp out in the autist as they threaten to kill the director

>votes
I don't give a shit about votes

nice

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You saying Japanese people aren't bots?

I'm hoping you're not over 20, because identifying with Holden Caulfield past a certain age is downright embarrassing.

>negative votes
who cares my dude, just think for yourself and if you want to discuss what you think here just make sure you aren't making yourself look like a reatrd

man fuck discord trannies, why do they have to ruin everything

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FAT BEEP TITS

You do give a shit about negative attitude to your failed season here and it just happens to correlate with votes, pure coincidence.

>people still fighting

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>I don't care about what other people think
>Keeps posting because what other people think is making him mad

LMAO

This pic really needs to be updated to the post episode 6 threads.
I.E endless rage, despair and pancakes posting

Nope. But if you decide to post in a KF thread on Yea Forums, expect people to reply to you.

Maybe because Kemurikusa threads are actually people sharing new fanart, not the same
>S2 is shit, fuck Kadokawa and fuck Kimura
>S1 was shit as well, Tatsuki just got lucky
shitposting every fucking thread, every fucking day

welcome to Yea Forums autismo

>aren't making yourself look like a reatrd
By disagreeing with you, I presume. Yeah I'm gonna keep that in mind next time, really a rookie mistake on my part.

>anyone with a different opinion then me are from discord or a shill
Flawless logic.

THREAD IS ENDING
LAST FOR NANOPPAIDA

Keep your general on /c/ if you are just dumping art.

I still don't get why people would even post on Yea Forums if they do not want others to reply to them and engage them.

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Yo yo yo~

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Mainly from reddit or Tatsuki fanboys actually.

Why does she stick her ass out like that?

They want other to reply to them and agree with them.

Yo yo yo~

This.
Yea Forums exists for arguing pointlessly, it's not a fucking hugbox.
If you want a hugbox make a discord server.

do not to go home

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I see. I guess it's kind of like that. You either agree or you are a discrd tranny / redditor / tumblerina / kadokawa shill.

Talk about getting raided by outsiders.

Is that an ASS?

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Ending this shitposting thread with a shitpost.

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I CRACKED THE CODE
FRIENDS ARE kinda lewd

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janny clean it up

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Except it also has some discussion about the anime itself instead of the constant mindless repetition of the same fucking phrases.
This isn't a discussion, nor an argument, this is a screaming match in which one retard is defending KF2 and everyone else is trying to make him understand why KF2 is shit, but he doesn't agree, because "I liked it, therefore it's good"

>First time was after firing tatsumaki

I can't believe they fired the number 2 hero.

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