More abilities, longer hair, more fights, better outfit, get over sasuke, get rid of sasuke obsession altogether...

>people like her so much
Boys just saw her as a prize for being "better" than the popular guy. Girls used her as a self-insert to be with said popular guy.

You haters just can't get over her.

Reminder that she should have fought him in the war, not the Uchiha Stu brothers.

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Honestly it'd probably work in giving her a reccuring enemy to defeat.

Hell I'd take naruto fighting Kabuto over the stu bros considering the build up they had when he showed up to naruto being half orochimaru. And they also have the same lingering to belong/find a home.

Why does everyone else have better reason to fight Kabuto than the man who eliminated orochimaru

She's still popular enough despite the hate.

The author is responsible for every pitfall in his story. Doesn't mean we can't hate the result of his writing.

Another Sakura thread? Yeah this will be fun...
The way she was written. Instead of hating the man who created her, molded her personality, goals,etc. they direct their frustration towards the character because it's easier.

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her goal was the sauce d which she got in the end

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>s-stop being so mean to my waifu it's not fair
Fucking pathetic Pinkshit.

How would she pee in that costume?

>Instead of hating the man who created her, molded her personality, goals,etc. they direct their frustration towards the character because it's easier.
Thus logic is retarded. So you can't hate a terrible story or character at all? All hate must be directed towards the author?

she takes it all off

You don't even necessarily choose what you hate so in that sense, no, there is nothing wrong with hating the story or Sakura. Nut if I were choosing what to hate, I would hate Kishi because he is real and Sakura is not and hating something that's not real seems dumb.

she's a huge self centered cunt. Like she's a bitch to her orphan team mate that lives alone and then goes home to her warm bed and home cooked meal only to come back the next day and shit on naruto again

like even when he's fighting down pain it's hinata, fucking hinata, that goes down there and risks her life for him and she just watches

From what I remember, she's pointless and annoying.

>fucking hinata
retard, she is madly in love with him and sakura is not. Also you are hating on a fucking what, 11 year old shielded girl for not understanding loneliness? Also Naruto was an annoying useless brat who tred hitting on her. Fuck off

I don't think so. The bottom zipper must go up.

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>she didn't love her teammate
oh but she was willingly to die for a fucking crush

Have her develop past the childhood crush on Sasuke. They were never really close. And maybe have her part 2 self be a bit more towards the old inner Sakura. And better fights of course.

Okay

You'll have to retcon out three things

1.Genjutsu being a sharingan only thing. Make the technique of Itachi something that is unique to his eyes and have it hinted that Sasuke can do it too.
Make it a top tier pinnacle genjutsu skill and something that needed sacrifice.

Something that other high tier non magic eyed people are capable of but not nearly as easily.
Sakura is related to hashirama and has low level flower power. Yes, kurama tier vines and magic "poison ivy"/swampthing tier plant powers.
But she's shit at them and can at best use flowers as a way to communicate glow and make roots grab peoples ankles.

Powerful techniques that require minimal chakra but tons of chakra control and willpower should be seen as forbidden ninjitsu because of the potential for fucking it up so bad that it kills dozens of people and not just the user themself

OH and she is childhood friends with sasuke and is the only one who treats him like a normal person rather then the heartthrob, unfortunate one, special destined child.

Okay.
She wants to be a super serious ninja and thinks naruto is a retard. Shes' probably the only one who points out how he's taking being the hokage lightly and is kind of insulted that he thinks that he deserves it or will be the hokage just because he wants it.

She busts ass to master skills that allow her use her to fight while keeping her modest chakra pool and relative physical weakness compared to other ninja in mind. Relying on her mastery of potent ninjitsu, poisons that are part of her plant based powers, and powerful genjutsu

While naruto is supposedly the clever fox she's the tricky devious one of the group.

tfw when sakura is best girl

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where's the
>PERSONAL, TANGIBLE and NON TRIVIAL goal to reach

>Sakura is related to hashirama and has low level flower power.
YIKES!!!

Overcoming burning self hatred.

It’s not that she’s any less relevant or useful than the dozens of wasted side characters in the series, but the amount of exposure she got was greatly disproportionate to what she actually contributed. Her feats did not merit her place in the endgame and her power growth was practically all offscreen. Like if you just took her and made it so that she was always a side character, with side character screentime, there would be no problem. She’d be that cool pink healpunch girl. But she’s shoehorned in right next to Naruto and Sasuke and just winds up looking like Yoko Ono

Wanting to be strong? Wanting to be taken seriously due to people assuming she's weak because of her looks and pink hair?

I'll say it again. It's too late to fix her. Kishi forever ruined her. There's no going back. Not even an inevitable reboot could fix her. All she's good for is self inserting and shipping.

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>That image

Curious, in what ways did Kishimoto try to make Sakura more popular?

DAMN.

In one of the interviews he talks about how he'd put more effort into drawing her or some shit

>using filler and fanart

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I mean if fucking mogei can have wood style out of nowhere then why not the main heroine of the story.

well yeak, but that's not really tangible. A tangible goal would be to defeat sasori for example or save tsunade, or heal naruto if you know what i mean but these are kinda trivial, most ppl in konoha would have these goals.

>Sakura had nothing
She had team 7.

Sometimes the best stories are more internal and personal. It'd be a nice contrast to the larger than life goals of her teammates and provide a more balanced story to tell. You'll understand when you are older I suppose.

Yes because if there's one thing Naruto is good at it's telling stories about people confronting inner turmoil and moral struggles apart from any sort of physical confrontation. Kishimoto is really a modern Dostoevsky in that way.

More.

>TANGIBLE and NON TRIVIAL goal to reach?
>Sakura had nothing
Sakura wanted the CHADsuke D and she got it.

Normally 2nd tier girls like her can't compete with top tier girls like Hinata or better yet a TRUE STACY like Hanabi (heir to Hyuga, supreme yamato nadeshiko looks, genius level talent, beating her becky-tier sister, top level DNA, educated lady who's also top tier breeding material, etc etc). Heck, Sakura wasn't even better than Karin who had Uzumaki blood.

But Sakura used every fucking trick in the book. Got Vriginnaruto to help her out, made herself a better candidate via training, and devoted herself to getting that CHAD D.

She got what she said wanted in the beginning. All 3 did. You are all just salty ass faggots.

Stay mad /r9k/ incels.

I sant Hamabi x Boruto femdom.

Reminder that Sakura is a dumb thot and Hinata is best girl and pure waifu material

>Hinata is best girl and pure waifu material
She's a useless ninja nort fangirl.

Meanwhile Sakura is a doctor

>Another Hinatafag bashing Sakura again.

No surprise.

If you want to talk about Hinata, make a Hinata thread, this is Sakura territory.

He tried to make her hot because that's the only value he saw in young women.

This is dumb as fuck. Not everyone has a goal. Not everyone is driven, some people just want to live. That doesn't mean those are shitty people.
Sakura doesn't need some dream like being acknowledged or getting revenge. Lack of those things isn't a core problem. People like, for example, Shikamaru, who has absolutely no goals. You might even argue his goal is to have no goals.
Her core problems are
>allegedly a main character, but has almost no fight scenes
>bitchy and talks down to the main character
>MUH SASUKE
That's it. Those are her only problems. It's a shounen battle manga, she doesn't need some internal turmoil and a struggle to achieve her dreams. The only thing you need to fix is make her able to fight, make her actually fight, and make her not shit on the fucking main character.

Rather get back to the point of trying to fix Sakura in a viable manner without diving into shipping wars faggotry thanks

This guy from the previous thread had it right.
He didn't tried jack shit. If he really "tried" like he claims he should have given her Ino tier tits at least and long hair.

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>allegedly a main character, but has almost no fight scenes
So she's not a main character.
>bitchy and talks down to the main character
When?
>MUH SASUKE
But that wasn't a thing with Sakura.

three things need to be done to fix her
1. give her more character outside of naruto bad sasuke good
2. tone down naruto and sasuke's power scaling so she can still keep up with them
3. Actually justify the reason she still wanted to fuck sasuke at the end despite the fact that he tried to murder her multiple times

>>MUH SASUKE
>But that wasn't a thing with Sakura.

Her and Naruto were fucking obsessed with that Uchiha cock. Don't deny this, user.

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At least there was a sexual aspect with Sakura. Naruto's not gay I hope.

>She wants to be a super serious ninja

She's has a small chakra pool and is physically weaker then most ninja.
So she makes up for it with intelligence cunning chakra skilsl that most can't master easily and her meme earth powers.

People are randomly getting fucking wood powers and hashirama cells fucking left and right.
Her having low level vines and flower powers that she takes from low level shittery to being the mistress of would make her unique.

Combined with her genjutsu skill and she'd be a force to be reckoned with.

>When?
Nah, you're right, Sakura never talked down to Naruto.

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>Combined with her genjutsu skill and she'd be a force to be reckoned with.
I know Sakura is supposed to have Genjutsu skill, but I can't remember a single time she actually used it. Uchiha eyeball hax would have made that irrelevant anyways

That's because she never use it. It got scrapped.

You're not wrong. It always bugs me that Uchihashits keep popping sharingans like a bargan sell but only one Senju in a existence has wood style.

What makes Harashima so different from the other Ashura incarnations that he busts out wood style ? Honestly I feel like trying to keep it uniquely to him ultimately hurt the story more especially when they keep using his corpse as a miracle drug for every friggin ninja to pull out Harashima Cells to bullshit Wood style, Regenerative powers or fucking Zetsus.

Reaching real far back for that one.

>I know Sakura is supposed to have Genjutsu skill, but I can't remember a single time she actually used it.
mangareader.net/naruto/259/18

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>When?

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I forgot about that. Its my least favorite part of the series so I probably suppressed it

Yeah it's almost as if one of the earliest Sakura moments gives the reader a lasting impression, and nobody is going to like the character whose first impression is lecturing the main character.
Pinkshits are utterly retarded. Go ahead and move the goalposts again.

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>move the goalposts
I don't think that means what you think it means.

See if she had extensively studied Genjutsu to the point of even knowing how to deal with the Sharingan I can give a pass to her knowing how to dispell it well or even have some resistance/immunity to it then I can accept scenes like this.

Otherwise it's a half-assed attempt at trying to remind us that Sakura was SUPPOSE to have an affinity to genjutsu but only use it to dispel it cause fuck you.

What's wrong with that though? There are people like that.

>When?
>here's an example
>lol but that was a long time ago
What you "think" is irrelevant, it's obvious your brain doesn't work very well.

A lot of characters can dispel genjtutsu, though.

Naruto technically couldn't, since he was handling Obitobi at the time Sasuke and Itachi confronted Kabuto.

Asking "when?" is not a setting up of goalposts.

>A lot of characters can dispel genjtutsu, though.
A lot of characters can fight.

Yes, and those around them usually realize they're shit and despise them and avoid them. They don't keep considering them friends or nice people. So it really doesn't work when the series attempts to pretend that Sakura's a hero and the members of her team and her class are her friends; rather than treat her an insufferable bitch that most of her peers hate.

I'm aware but story can be manipulated accordingly. Also you can't tell me Mr. I can make thousand of 9 tails empowered Clones of myself not redirect one of them to where Kabuto is located.

All I am saying is that for someone who was orochimaru's student, it's laughable how many people have better reasons to fight Kabuto than Sasuke other than MUH BROTHER ITACHI PLZ NOTICE ME.

A lot of characters can tune a piano.
None of them can tuna fish, however.

based and tienpilled

>Also you can't tell me Mr. I can make thousand of 9 tails empowered Clones of myself not redirect one of them to where Kabuto is located.
I know, but it would be pretty cheap to have the main character take on both of the bad guys in the arc.

Maybe we could have had Sakura + Suigetsu and Jugo fight Kabuto since those two were heading to that location. Maybe Anko could regain consciousness and help, too.

not even him but come on, that was Sakura's time to fucking shine, if she were going to activate the Yin seal, it should have been during pain, imagine if Sakura just said fuck it, activated it and told everyone she's going to buy them time for Naruto to get here

and sure she gets tossed around but she gets a few hits in like damn that would have been some top tier shit but no instead we get her bitching and crying for Naruto to come home so he can defeat pain

Who broke her on home and single mom

>stay relevant after Sasori fight
>have a new cool jutsu
>less bitchy
>gets over Sasuke
>focusing on becoming stronger and healing techniques eventually surpassing her mentor
>no romance for her until the end of the series
>not end up with neither Naruto or Sasuke

So much potential gone to waste.

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I'm fine with her liking Sasuke but that was her only character trait, she had no motivation outside of that. If she had some sort of reason to exist or something interesting to work towards she would have been more tolerable.

Goes against the story structure. Kishimoto needed someone to jump in and quickly job to Pain so Naruto could go full Nine-Tails. Sakura using her seal and getting instantly defeated by Pain would be a disservice to Sakura.

Sasori should have survived the encounter so Sakura could have a rematch with him without Chiyo's help while Sasori also developed some new tricks for extra tension.

Yes it is. You asked "when" without qualifying it. You asked for any example, then dismissed the one you got. The "goal" was providing you with an example.

but Naruto literally jumps in just as Pain is going to deal with Tsunade, just swamp Tsunade's place with a worn out but resilient Sakura and you're good, she wouldn't instant lose against pain, remember that any little detail they could pick up about the Rinnegan was invaluable to Pain losing the fight against Naruto

>Sakura using her seal and getting instantly defeated
she wouldn't have to get instantly defeated though, there's no reason for her not to get a few hits on Pain. Konohamaru even killed one of them

I didn't dismiss anything.

Tsunade was another problem. Even though she was giving Katsuyu her chakra to heal everyone it felt like she was doing fuck all while Pain was ravaging the village. Compare to Hiruzen and Minato who immediately enter the battle when the Kyuubi attacks the village.
All the kunoichi needed to do more in the series.

It's almost if she is the literal worst Hokage out of all of them. And this includes both fuck ups of Hiruzen and Minato.

FFS Kakashi did more to Pain than Tsunade did and he should be the weakest Hokage now that he doesn't have the sharingan hax.

Tobimara also shouldn't have died to hype the gold and silver bros...fucking disgusting.

Because she amounted to nothing in the end.

The hatred is irrational. There is no logical reason.

Sakura a cute!

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Part 1, forest of death: "I'm so pathetic, constantly crying and not doing anything, i'm useless and only rely on these two, i have to grow stronger and be able to protect them and myself!"
Part 2, right before Sasuke and Naruto final battle: pic related
I wonder why people hate her. That's some amazing character development right here

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bad taste

>completely ignore all other chapters where Sakura is doing her job
>"omg so bad lol LMAO BTFO PWNED!!!"

*based taste

More

You're missing the point. She can heal them all they want and even prevent one of them from dying but she never directly gets involved with the conflict between Naruto and Sasuke. The one time she did she pulled back due to her feels and couldn't bring herself to kill sasuke despite having multiple chances to do so.

People fucking hate Sakura for being a hyprocrite, saying that she would be able to stand by them and not rely on Maruto to save Sasuke. In the end that's precisely what she does in their final battle. No charging at Sasuke to throw a punch, no directly confronting Sasuke by putting her foot down, ANYTHING ELSE then just begging Sasuke to not be such a piece of shit.

It's infuriating how Sakura just refuse to give some serious tough love on Sasuke. Even if it would've been completely useless, at least seeing her try to throw a punch to Sasuke would be so cathartic for how little her character development over him keeps getting stagnated and regressed at worse.

>Maruto

GDI, I now want to die.

>Sakura
>ever doing her job

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Different user here. I didn't expect much from sakura since she was a female

>No charging at Sasuke to throw a punch

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>no directly confronting Sasuke by putting her foot down

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>not rely on Maruto to save Sasuke
When she say this?

You do know this is basically their final interaction before Naruto manually scrambled Saucegay's brain and she's still the same sobbing mess of a doormat when it comes to him, right? It's absolutely pathetic.

>she never directly gets involved with the conflict between Naruto and Sasuke
She shouldn't: she's a medic, not a fighter.

user even her author hates her...

>sobbing mess
Prior to that, she was knocking niggas out and healing like a pro. Let's paint a complete picture here.

When I was a stupid teen I expected a whole lot more considering at the time I didn't fully grasp the concept of the Shonen demographic. That or I wasn't made jaded yet from the amount of shonen I read making the majority of the female cast nothing more than services or waste of good ink. That said I can safely say that Sakura is a whole new spectrum of failure I have never see any other main heroine coming close to replicating.

Alright you got me. But the fact she didn't try again during that prelude to the final battle between Naruto and Sasuke is asinine. And Sakura only mans up when defending Naruto. And correct me if I am wrong but that's the only scene she does that. Never once tries to defend herself and put her love aside to try and reason with him.

Actually I'm reminded that NOBODY told Sakura about the truth about Itachi or why sasuke's clan had to die. Really felt like if she knew this it'd be the start of her really re-evaluating everything and doing something about it. I'm not gonna trust the Boruto series to fill in the blank.

Also tell me the chapter where Sakura is charging at sasuke. I remember it ending very stupidly and I want to confirm it.

Here and here . It's basically her confirming she lacks any kind of agency or drive to achieve her only real goal in the story. I don't know how you can possibly miss it, but it's the closest thing I've ever seen in my entire lufe to an author screaming "this character doesn't matter" without breaking the fourth wall.

Then why in the hell did she learn how to Hulk Smash? Why did she learn the only technique Tsunade created to be the loophole to her established rules for medical ninjutsu?

>But the fact she didn't try again during that prelude to the final battle between Naruto and Sasuke is asinine
No, it's actually quite smart. Sasuke is leagues above Sakura, it would be stupid for her to try any such thing again.

I need her to explicitly say she will not rely on Naruto to save Sasuke.

>medics shouldn't fight
On the contrary, medics should've made for the most interesting fighters. Remember Tsunade's brief fight with Kabuto before the Sannin fight? He tries to stab her heart through her skin with a chakra scalpel and she fucks his entire body by attacking her central nervous system.
Sakura should be using her extensive knowledge of medical ninjutsu to cripple and disable enemies.

his* central nervous system
Anyways the point is both Tsunade and Kabuto had some devastatingly creative techniques that we never see again.

>she was knocking niggas
Mention a single solo fight she actually had and won during the war arc that wasn't against fodder mob like white zetsu. Go ahead, I'll wait.

>Healing
So a passive role Kishi can shove her into to avoid having to writing about her, right?

I realized my mistake about what you were asking for, but that would make her even more pathetic and contradictory sine that's the exact opposite of what she claimed she wanted to do.

*having to write

Stop reposting this lie. You know it's bullshit.

Know what else was a travesty that never been realized ? Hyuuga Medical Ninjas. The Byakugan of all things lend to them making amazing Medical nins cause their all seeing eye bullcrap. Then there's the obligatory Hokuto Shinken mention.

Sure, medics can make for interesting fights but realistically speaking, a medic should be hanging back and allow fighters do the fighting and medics respond as needed to injuries. Medics should only fight when they have no other choice.
>He tries to stab her heart through her skin
Yeah, no shit

>Mention a single solo fight she actually had and won during the war arc
Name one for Naruto and for Sasuke during the war arc.
>that wasn't against fodder mob like white zetsu. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Considering Sakura didn't start with hax eyes or deus fox machina, I'd say her accomplishments are already impressive.

>I realized my mistake about what you were asking for, but that would make her even more pathetic and contradictory sine that's the exact opposite of what she claimed she wanted to do.
Okay, so give me an instance where Sakura said she would not rely on Naruto to save Sasuke.

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>getting instantly defeated by Pain would be a disservice to Sakura
Yes, because the "main" character who never won a single solo figth and humiliated herself for a guy that treated her like spoiled leftovers at every turn couldn't possibly stand to lose against a walking nuke and make a good impression on the readers just by putting up any kind of resistance. You're such a cretin, Pinkshit.

>realistically speaking
It's a manga, the point isn't to be realistic, it's to be cool. Hanging back is not cool. Fighting is. And let's be honest, the "rules" for a medical ninja were just some bullshit Kishi invented on the fly to make Tsunade vs. Madara cooler by having her say that she gets to disregard the rules and fight. Because where were the rules and realism against Sasori? Sakura remembers the "don't get hit" part, but she's still on the front lines, in the heat of battle, letting Chiyo use her as a tool to fight Sasori directly. That's not "hanging back". And it's not like she had no other choice, Kakashi was there and he deliberately left her to handle Sasori. That's how it should be. It's a battle manga, characters can't be interesting if they don't fight.

>Yeah, no shit
without piercing her skin*, then. Don't be this way you know what I meant.

>It's a manga, the point isn't to be realistic, it's to be cool.
Realism can be cool.
>It's a battle manga, characters can't be interesting if they don't fight.
I found Sakura grabbing Naruto's heart with her bare hands to be pretty interesting.
>without piercing her skin*, then. Don't be this way you know what I meant.
It's been a long time since I've read this part of the manga. Why does it matter that the skin isn't pierced? If Kabuto's trying to harm Tsunade, what does it matter that the skin is or isn't pierced?

Then Kishimoto shouldn't have pretended that she "caught up" to the two BEFORE they become demi-gods next phase. Honestly if he justified getting around this by having her be Kaguya's vessel instead of madara after he lost I wouldn't harp him over it. Probably be cooler than what we actually got.

>name one for Naruto and for Sasuke during the war arc
Sure. Naruto soloed the third Raikage and pretty much all the other Jinchuriki sans Bee and Sasuke. It's also worth nothing than other than the battles he won strictly solo, he also singlehandedly changed the tide of the war by himself, helping to win nearly every single fight after his entrance. Sasuke didn't have a single solo win, but unlike Sakura he was absolutely indispensable to defeat two out of the three final antagonists. This is still just the final arc but I'm being charitable to you, dumbass.

>give me an instance where Sakura said she would not rely on Naruto to save Sasuke
So you're finally admitting she has zero agency, good for you. The key word here is rely, because Sakura supposedly trained with Tsunade in order to bring Sasuke back (her only real goal in the entire story), but ended up being fine with Naruto bringing him back on his own.

*noting

Sakura grabbing Naruto's heart was not realistic though. In fact, the way Kishi portrayed it made her look like a total quack, since it would actually collapse his lungs and compromise the integrity of his torax by making an incision through his ribs. You can't have it both ways, punkshit.

>So you're finally admitting she has zero agency, good for you.
No, I'm still looking for an instance. You have yet to present one.

>it would actually collapse his lungs and compromise the integrity of his torax by making an incision through his ribs
So why didn't this happen in the manga? Reminder that this universe has magic.

>Why does it matter that the skin isn't pierced?
It doesn't really, my point is that they showed us cool techniques that only a medical ninja would think of, then they dropped it.
Tsunade and Sakura's fights just became punching really hard.

>you have yet to present one
You're missing the forest for the trees. Whether Sakura pretended to solve Sasuke's situation on her own (like she tried but failed during the kage sunmit arc) or just wanted to help Naruto do it, that hardly matters when she managed neither as Naruto ended up saving Sasuke and bringing him back to the village all on his own.

>why didn't this happen in the manga?
Because Kishimoto knows jackshit about physiology, retard. More importantly, it exposes your bullshit arguments. So you're fine with medic nin not fighting in the frontline being an in-universe rule (despite being directly contradictory to what we saw Sakura do during the Sasori fight) because it's "realistic" but also fine with a completely unrealistic medical procedure?

>fine with a completely unrealistic medical procedure?
It's not unrealistic: this world has magic wherein a hand enveloped with chakra can be plunged into a body without disturbing other organs.
A medic standing back has little to do with magic, something that has no real-world equivalent, and more to do with tactics and strategy, two things with real-world equivalents.
>wanted to help Naruto do it
She helped Naruto by being there for him with medical help.

>Tsunade and Sakura's fights just became punching really hard.
Meh. I cared more about the reasons for the fights than the actual fighting methods.

Make it all about punching real hard, just make sure there's solid reason to do so.

>"muh hokage"
>non trivial and tangible
Kek

>Filler

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