why didn't they just make the card text "draw two cards"?
Why didn't they just make the card text "draw two cards"?
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Pot of Greed? What does that card do?
If pot of greed is so overpowered how come when I made a deck that was nothing but 40 copies of it I lost every game?
Someone explain why this card make everyone so butthurt?
>he didnt knew draw 5 cards
It's universally overpowered and if it weren't banned would be mandatory 3 copies in every deck forever.
You didn't believe in The Heart of The Cards.
Since yugioh doesn't limit card usage in a turn with something like land cards in Magic the Gathering it means that having more cards is always objectively good and you always want more cards in your hand as quickly as possible.
The way Pot of Greed works, if you draw it, you can immediately play it and it effectively means that you draw twice that turn instead of once with no downside and no conditions. No matter what your deck is, what style of play you are using, or what your opponent is doing, drawing Pot of Greed on any turn will always be the most optimal card to draw except for in a few extremely rare corner cases (like if it's the very last card in your deck). Basically, it's by far the best card ever produced in the game and extremely unbalanced. Hell, a lot of decks would even be optimal to literally make more than half of their deck out of Pot of Greed and they would be guaranteed to win turn one.
Ah the Togashi version.
>all pot of greed except Exodia
Why not just limit the amount of action cards you can have to like 3? Simple.p
Anime literally had a dude that did this and Yugi still btfo his ass
Isn't there a rule that says you can only have 3 instances of the same card in your Deck at the same time? I could have sworn there was such a rule...
>Basically, it's by far the best card ever produced in the game
Pot of Greed is busted, but still not even close to this
Heck, considering Yu Gi Oh's history of busted OHKOs and stuff, just seeing more cards at less advantage with Graceful Charity and other similar cards was better.
Oh look, a copy of sinister serpent
Very based response.
There is but it still lets Pot be ungodly broken. Stacking 3 Pots and filling the rest of your deck with an OHKO/infinite draw engine would still be optimal strategy were Pot unbanned.
>Painful Choice in Dragon Rulers
>Painful Choice in Burning Abyss
This is literally not a single deck that Painful Choice would not be broken in. It is the single strongest card ever printed.
It's the single strongest card for any archetype that benefits from having its cards be in the graveyard.
What they should've done is have you banish the cards face down, that way they can't be interacted with for the most part.
>It's the single strongest card for any archetype that benefits from having its cards be in the graveyard.
So everything?
Epic original meme bro!
Upvoted!
>No matter what your deck is, what style of play you are using, or what your opponent is doing, drawing Pot of Greed on any turn will always be the most optimal card to draw
Superheavy Samurais, Infernities and Sky Strikers beg to differ, but for different reasons and those are fringe examples
can you show me or tell me who it was
the strongest card ever printed is Spellbook of Judgment, a card shouldn't work the way that card does, it puts anime bullshit to shame
There's a couple archetypes that don't benefit from haviing at least some of their cards in the graveyard, but they're all tier 3.
I don't know what you people are talking about.
Tier 3 is garbage like Aroma which don't usually work but can work if you open literally everything you need to combo. A deck that doesn't want cards in the GY isn't Tier 3, it's like Tier 56.
It would still be a too good, especially if you have more than one copy of each of the cards you pick anyway. People are willing to banish random 10 cards for two random cards. 4 selected cards for 1 selected card isn't so bad.
>Superheavy Samurais
>Dump stuff then banish spell
>Infernities
You're not serious, are you?
>Sky Strikers
No really, are you for real?
>One card to put 3 spells in the graveyard
>Another way to search Raye
>Can put stuff in to get back with Kagari or Multi Roll
Infernities don't want shit in hand, risking a monster that you can't put on board isn't the most optimal play, Sky Strikers would rather draw Engage since it's a better Pot of Greed in the deck, you said that it was the most optimal draw in any deck, which is not the case
If you don't see how Infernities would use Painful Choice, then you clearly never played the deck, not just when it was at full power, but period.
There are two guys with fake Exodia (I think?), Kaiba and Yugi teamed up to loophole them to force them to keep drawing until they ran out of cards.
When I was a kid I was terrified of it's face. Now I love it.
this is about Pot of Greed, not Painful Choice
Painful Choice is a +0 and you get to choose for the most part, Pot of Greed is a +1 and is pure RNG
Yugi/Atem's done this before, it's how he defeated and claimed Slifer the first time, by catching his opponent in an infinite draw loop until they ran out of cards and was forced to forfeit.
*Blocks your path*
My mistake, I guess I mistook your post as a reply to my statement.
I will forever maintain that Painful Choice is the single most powerful card ever printed.
My son says you have to put those cards back on your deck
>it puts anime bullshit to shame
When a "Winged Kuriboh" is destroyed, you can add this card from your Deck to your hand. When you activate this card, pay half your Life Points to switch this card with 1 card in your Deck or Graveyard. After you activate that card and it resolves, add this card from your Deck to your hand. If you activate this card after switching cards 3 times by this card's effect, its effect becomes the following effect. This turn, Select 1 face-up monster on the field, and multiply its ATK by the number of monsters your opponent controls.
it's bad game design when something is always the correct choice and in this case, it's having three of these in your deck.
really makes you think just how bad most games are, what with how procedural much of the gameplay in many games are. Often there's never a reason to do something other than that one optimal move.
and that's bad
Pokemon TCG is still busted today in how strong trainer cards are.
Not anymore. These days getting banished don't mean much either.
>These days getting banished don't mean much either.
substitoad is the strongest card in the game or magical scientist
>the single strongest card ever printed
*blocks your path*
>this card
>painful choice
>deck of draw spells and exodus
yep
That's why I said banished facedown, there's only a couple cards that touch those.
But that's objectively wrong. You can count the number of meta relevant decks that don't care about being banished on one hand. Also, banishing face-down is even harder to get around.
Exodia* sorry I'm a dirty phoneposter
You lose 4 cards for one that the opponent picks.
It’s shit except for heavy graveyard using decks.
>It’s shit except for heavy graveyard using decks.
Nigger that's most of Yugioh.
Graveyard is literally Hand #2 to most decks.
>It’s shit except for heavy graveyard using decks.
In YGO, the graveyard is just a temporary stop from the field. Some may even call it the 2nd deck.
>Fucking Sky Striker
Fuck that cunt and fuck forehead lol
>TCG: Unlimited
So when are you picking up Monarchs?
>You lose 4 cards
You mean you go +4
>It’s shit except for heavy graveyard using decks
So literally every deck?
i tend to agree. While a lot of overpowered cards are due to bad design/ lack of foresight, judgement was literally just made to push spellbooks and was retarded overpowered on purpose. It is everything wrong with Konami card design
because fuck you that's why
Why a winged kuriboh of all things?
It was a plot card in GX, Jaden just choose the effect of the card based on his situation.
Space magic and stuff.
underrated
>judgement was literally just made to push spellbooks and was retarded overpowered on purpose.
99 percent of meta decks are made with that exact purpose in mind to sell packs. The ones that aren't and become good by accident Konami goes out of its way to stamp out to ensure it doesn't mess with the intended meta game. Spellbook of Jusgement was just that practice at its most blatant.
Spellbook of Judgment isn't even that good. If it came back at 3 Spellbooks would still not be meta.
If Spellbook of Judgement is so broken then why could Spellbooks still barely compete with Dragon Rulers?
Meanwhile, if you give Dragon Rulers a Painful Choice and watch what they could have done with it back then.
the fact that Judgement singlehandedly made Spellbooks playable against the Rulers of all decks (each of the 4 Rulers being a broken card on it's own right and having absurd synergy between each other) says a lot
>If Spellbook of Judgement is so broken then why could Spellbooks still barely compete with Dragon Rulers?
you've got it backwards, spellbook of judgement was so broken it let spellbooks compete with dragon rulers.
In resourceless TCGs, drawing extra cards with no drawbacks attached is too powerful.
Oof. Still having flashblacks of SoJ and Super Rejuvenation. Shit was bonkers back in the day.
>tfw 5head is common now
>didn't buy structure because fuck soulcuck
Good thing I stopped played recently!
KeyForge is resourceless and drawing cards isn't very powerful in it.
I think i still have my pot of greed card somewhere
Recently got back into yugioh. Went to a tournament and my opponent turn 1 set up a board. Next turn he negated half my plays and i lost the turn after. You'd think this was a long duel but his first turn took about 8ish minutes. What happened to this game?
new season of yugiho killed the tcg game
XYZ Monsters are crazy easy to summon and climbing through Link Monsters is kind of degenerate.
The biggest offender in recent memory is Firewall Dragon, which was the result of the anime writers actually knowing what is or isn't a strong effect in Yugioh. It was made to be the VRAINS' MC's Ace and it was ... a really, really broken card.
And because it was the MC's Ace Konami wasn't willing to ban it for the longest time. It's banned now, but most of the stuff that was made to be competitive while it was around is still there.
Learn to read.
Imagine being this brainlet
There is absolutely nothing better than using skill drain to make someone's entire deck completely useless.
because you cant use the cards you drew. (most of the time)
and there is no card that just lets you draw more cards without any condition
This is pretty much why tcg are bad in general.
Meant to sell cards not be well designed games
Sky Striker is literally better in every way.
and much cuter
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This is a great example on how this card is busted
This is why
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You must be confused? If they kept drawing they'd still get the whole exodia and win. But yami used some card that discards from the hand against an exodia faker.