Sangokushi vol. 14

Continuing my weekend dump of Sangokushi, one of the most easily accessible and complete adaptations of Romance of the Three Kingdoms. I'll be posting a volume every weekend for anyone who's ever felt like getting into the story. Previous threads can be found in the archive by putting 'Sangokushi' in the subject field.

Story thus far: The empire is wracked by a peasant rebellion, which is quickly put down but exposes to all regional strongmen just how fragile the centre is. Cao Cao, the rising power in the North who controls the puppet emperor, now wages war to eliminate Lu Bu, a major warlord in the East. As the war becomes dire for Lu Bu, he fails to realize that his subordinate Chen Deng and his father actively spread dissension among the ranks and plot their lord's downfall...

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Which part is this again? It's been so long since the last thread.

It's Cao Cao warring against Lu Bu: the final edition.

Basically:
>Cao Cao tells Liu Bei that he's ready to take down Lu Bu so he needs Liu Bei's cooperation
>Lu Bu finds out about Cao Cao-Liu Bei's secret pact, chases out Liu Bei from Xiapei
>Cao Cao comes with a reinforcing army to try and seize Xiapei before moving on Xuzhou
>meanwhile, Chen Deng and his father pretend to be Lu Bu's loyal supporters but are actually working with Cao Cao to bring down Lu Bu from within

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Alright I see now. How far are we going? Until Xiahou Dun vs Lu But or the flooding of Xiapi?

Xiahou Dun lost his eye last volume. Lu Bu has basically now lost all of Xuzhou province and is holed up at Xiapi.

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Oh, and this volume is Lu Bu's last appearance.

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How does it stack up to The Ravages of Time?

Better if you want a straight retelling, worse if you don't. Honestly, the two manga shouldn't even be compared. Ravages of Times is better off being compared to the likes of series like Souten Kouro. Sangokushi's strength is in telling the very long novel in a much more accessible way for beginners with minimal dumbing down and cutting stuff.

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Might be a waste of a post, but thanks for this. Very interesting to see the difference and details between this and what Koei ROTK and Dynasty Warriors presented. I believe there was some encyclopedia stuff in the earlier games/instruction manuals that went over some of this before "story modes" were introduced to the games.

Yeah, it's one of the main reasons why I translated the series. Although the original book should be the first stop, realistically speaking, lots of people find it unapproachable and dull at a glance. Sangokushi is pretty much the next best thing if you want a mostly unabridged re-telling accessible enough for even little kids to read.

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And that's the end of the volume.

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RIP Lu Bu

Other than his paranoia, his Int score looked pretty decent here. Political skill and Charm understandably low.

More like RIP Chen Gong, whose good advice was always ignored by Lu Bu. Then again, he was kind of dumb/loyal enough to stick with Lu Bu until the end unlike many other former allies and subordinates of Lu Bu.

Yeah, Lu Bu was never able to effectively build a stronger relationship with Yuan Shao, Yuan Shu, or Liu Bei, which really might have prolonged his life.

I always find it silly how Chen Gong made a huge deal about Cao Cao's villainy and then ran off to be Lu Bu's strategist. You'd think that killing your adopted father would be much worse to a Confucian than killing your father's sworn brother.

Currently reading vol 10. Lu Bu is such a traitorous asshole.

In actual history, Chen Gong left Cao Cao much later. It was during Cao Cao's assault on Xuzhou (to avenge the murder of his father) when Chen Gong convinced Zhang Miao and other subordinates of Cao Cao stationed in Yanzhou to carve out a name for themselves. Inviting Lu Bu was just a convenient mean to achieve that end.

Finished this recently.
Great manga

Yeah I know that historically it was more due to circumstance and political convenience, I just find it amusing the novel makes Chen Gong into this morally upstanding guy who is appalled by Cao Cao's actions only for him to join Lu Bu without a second thought. Made him seem like a huge hypocrite when he refused to serve Cao Cao after Lu Bu's defeat.

Rah rah Cao Cao bad.

Nice