Nice headcanon, BC QK flopped, the anime sucks and might end soon. Meanwhile MHA has more seasons of anime with the best anime stuido Bones and another movie coming out.
Jose Long
remember how all you BCfans said it would be in the top 10 selling manga of last year? How did that turn out?
>BC QK flopped That's expected if it wan't even advertised >the anime sucks and might end soon. New opening covers the elf saga and one of the animators confirmed in a tweet that the elf saga will definitely happen.
Cameron Watson
Thats not how popularity and sales works dumbass
Jonathan Brown
it was 100k from making it in, 11th spot its selling more this year than it did last year the series it was below ended it will 100% make top 10 this year, screenshot this
Did it myself The order is almost the same to be fair.
Sales per Volume: One Piece - 4.84 million (worldwide+JP) HxH - 2 million (JP) MHA - 0.95 million (series) (JP) Haikyu! - 0.92 million(series)(JP) TPN - 0.76 million (JP+ worldwide+digital) Food Wars - 0.47 million (series) (JP) Black Clover - 0.4 million (series) (JP) Kimetsu no Yaiba - 0.3 million (JP) Borutu - 0.29 million (JP) JuJutsu Kaisen - 0.22 million (series) Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs - 0.2 million (JP) We Never Learn - 0.18 million (JP+digital) Act-Age - 160k (JP+digital)
>dr stone Will flop as hard as the irrelevant manga >Kimetsu In its final phases >fire force 3 years and still shit sales plus runs in a completely different magazine >vinland saga Completely different magazine Literally the only valid threat
Cooper Harris
Fuckoff Jimmbo
Caleb Wilson
So has TPN got much of an anime boost?
Mason Bell
Where is the 1 million
Noah Long
Feels good to be a hunterchad
Jaxon Garcia
These shonen console wars are really weird
Jack Lewis
we dont have anything else to do with our lives
Joseph Flores
These shonen console wars are really sad
Liam Harris
What soon? If Act-Age continues to sell that bad in the next volume it might get axed in the near future.
Owen Cruz
>it might get axed That soon
James Watson
I thought Dr Stone is doing worse?
Michael Perry
>being this retarded wew
Camden Flores
>no arguments wew
Ethan Martinez
>First day sales ranking Shoseki >1 Haikyuu Volume 37 >5 Kimetsu no Yaiba Volume 15 >6 Black Clover Volume 20 >7 Shokugeki no Soma Volume 34 >9 We Never Learn Volume 11 >10 Dr. Stone Volume 10 >14 Yuragi sou no Yuuna san Volume 15 >78 Gokutei Higuma Volume 1 >140 ne0lation Volume 1 >165 Jimoto ga Japan Volume 2 BC already losing to KnY
>first day kek, come back when you have first week
Lucas Richardson
Stone sales go through the roof as it’s established a big fanbase (see TOC ranking). It’s just that Jump chooses not to release the number of total prints for unknown reasons.
Bentley Evans
This magazine is really gonna die when OP ends
William Mitchell
Follow the argument properly next time and maybe you'll get one, kid.
Kayden Williams
Jump is so finished once OP is over
Evan Clark
>BC already losing to KnY Top kek the anime isn't even out yet
Connor Roberts
Suspicious
Bentley Murphy
>barely 60k a volume >a new series like Jujutsu outsells it by vol 3 >through the roof ???
Charles Jackson
>O-ODA COME BACK >K-KUBO COME BACK >T-TOGASHI PLEASE WRITE MORE
Adam Rivera
And then the three of them team up to write a new series Oda will handle the art, Kubo the plot and Togashi will do project management
Cooper Jackson
Oda is going to in his goodbye letter to his readers endorse a running manga in particular. And it will be a wonder to watch Yea Forums lose its shit.
Xavier Thomas
So it will have sameface, be full of plot holes and never be published?
Julian Ross
Its gonna be BC
Justin Martinez
>K-KISHIMOTO, P-P-PLEASE GRACE US WITH SCIFI NIPPON
Kevin Walker
Yes
Dominic Torres
That was the joke I think
Asher Baker
Black Clover is trash, Oda is not going to recommend that.
Carter Morgan
T-TORIYAMA PLEASE CREATE MORE DB
Jace Roberts
The anime will only backfire because the source material is shit and fancy drawings aren't going to change it
Matthew Sanchez
Anime never hurt
Ian Thomas
Are BCfags retarded or it's just false flagging?
Levi Mitchell
Yes
Mason Peterson
yes
Leo Nelson
More like Kubo handling the art, while Oda and Togashi co-writing the plot (Oda writing the long term, overarching plot and Togashi on the short term). That's my dream manga
this is what happens when authors can only 1. Copy Naruto 2. Make demon killing series #48583 We need a manga with a fun and imaginative world and story like HxH and OP
Aaron Parker
>fun and imaginative world and story like HxH PlagarismxPlagarism HiatusxHiatus ExpositionxExposition ScribblexScribble
Stands were super interesting when Araki did it in JoJo. His work even ended up in the Louvre. Togashi can't even finish a story, let alone 7. I loved Chimera Ant, but HxH is garbage and Togashi is a joke of a mangaka.
Oda is just a puny slave as well, he's working himself to death and he doesn't own the rights for his own creation like Togashi, a free man, does. In the human trash can with all the others
Why? Combine their powers. ODA will do the long term plot, Kubo will do the art and Togashi will do the powersystem and planning of fights.
Evan Smith
BC doesnt have quality tho
Adrian Jenkins
>Food Wars (34 vol) - 16 million (series) (JP) Imagine how many more sales it would have if it hadn't shat itself around volume 20. Like 3/4 of those numbers come from the good part of the story.
Elijah Sanders
He can also do the teambattles that lack in the other three.
Oliver Mitchell
> His work even ended up in the Louvre. That isnt really because they had been interested in his writing skills. He is just a amazing artist.
Isaac Martin
>no Dr. Stone.
Of fucking course.
Levi Ross
The joke was that each of them would handle the part they're famously not great at
i managed to miss this was just jump, thanks >zero's tea time imagine being beat by zero's fucking tea time
Bentley Phillips
Why the heck is Dr.Stone the only title with no official sales?
Luis Howard
The sales are so embarrassingly bad they refuse to release it 100 chapters in + some of the most pushing a jump title has had and sti shit sales lmao
Ryder Hughes
>second place >winning Oh no no no Hunteretard
Josiah Rogers
Wan Piss is an anomaly
Mason Sullivan
>Last volume failing to sell 1M >surpassed by BC Enjoy competing with MHA for the 3rd spot huntretard
Nathan Bailey
>Oda good females He may have two or three but all of them are irrelevant because oda is sexist
Leo Morris
>Dr.Stone nowhere to be seen Hold me bros.
Matthew Green
Nah keep that shitty writer away from it
Nathaniel Myers
>srpassed by BC What are you talking about? Also the last time I checked, volume 36 was at 920k and the year is not over yet, it will reach 1M by Jenuary just like volume 35 did.
Show me a relevant fighting female in One piece Big Mom is more like a big joke and all other women are discarded for Zoro wank.
Robert Sullivan
DB deserved all those sales because it created or perfected a lot of tropes used by every shounen that came after it. OP is objectively trash that has not inspired one single manga and its only read by manchildren with learning disabilities. The fact that it sells that much is something that makes no sense.
>everyone in OP is a joke OPs females are the biggest jokes in OP. Just look at Kaido who one shotted Luffy and Big mom who didn't felt like threat at all and got fucked by weak trio. You can use buzzwords all you want but you can't show a good fight with female in OP. I could say ennies lobby Kalifa fight was decent but rest were underwhelming and shafted. In punk hazard you can clearly see what Oda thinks about fighting females and what happened to Monet and Smoker cock sleeve.
HxH dominates despite the hiatus, to reach those numbers with One Piss Oda decided to become a slave and waste his life working 19 hours a day, sad and pathetic. Plus counting sales outside Japan, HxH is well above 50 millions and Togashi is part of a prestigious élite, only 5 authors have sold more than 50 millions with two different series like he did with HxH and Yu Yu Hakusho. A true God, not a slave hack like Oda.
Christopher Walker
Oda actually loves his series and wants to end it unlike Hackogashi
Nicholas Anderson
>a character has to be a fighter to be good Retard
Julian Flores
clovercucks are shallow like that
Joseph Ross
>not even with his two series combined can Togayshit reach half of Oda's single series
Jace Parker
>Y-you don't get it, h-he chose to be a slave, he became a dog because he loves his series The absolute state of onepissers
Liam Perez
Hiatus x Hiatus Top kek One Piece will end before that shit series even finishes the current arc.
Oda is the one shitting on you faggots by repeating the same formulaic shit for 20 years. Seriously, almost every story in One Piece is >Straw Hats enter an Island >Individually they defeat enemies that are part of the bad guy's group >Luffy comes out with some asspull >Luffy punches the main enemy really hard >Everyone loves Luffy and his bounty goes up or >Straw Hats have to rescue a crew member or >Straw Hats have to take down some evil person that is trying to or took over some island
Asher Moore
>heroshitters and blackcocklovers are the same posters makes sense
Jordan Ward
>Act-Age (5 vol) - 800k (JP+digital) AA has 1kk printed copies already
Jacob Jackson
Proofs?
Robert Young
Holy shit, he somehow made Asta look cool, give this guy a medal.
Nathan Moore
Volume 13 came out the month the anime started, and that alt cover came bundled with Jump Giga.
>Naruto and Dragon Ball >Main characters breathe every arc >Main characters constantly beat someone every arc >There exists someone other than the main character in an arc >Someone says Naruto and Goku's name every arc wow what repetitive series!!!11!!
>cloverchad More like clowntard. You make laughing stock out of yourself. Just stay in your little general echo chamber where you won't hear criticism and hero aca boggieman lives rent free
Asher Morales
But if they will clean toilet they probably wash out BC with shit
Owen Peterson
>anime, game, ads couldn't have been the reason for the boost in sales in this short period >the pure quality of the manga alone sold 600k+ in 3 months once you take off the vol 20 print order RISE UP CLOVER CHADS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>TPN (13 vol) - 10 million (JP+ worldwide+digital) >Black Clover (20 vol) - 8 million (series) (JP) Nobody will take you seriously when you have no numbers to back up your claims. BC is on Boruto and Souma tier.
>TPN (13 vol) - 10 million (JP+ worldwide+digital) >Black Clover (20 vol) - 8 million (series) (JP) Now think how much BC sold overseas if they also included digital we would easly top TPN. WSJ just want to shill it to look successful.
Mason Gray
K-KOMI NAOSHI YOU TOO PLEASE MAKE ROMANCE GREAT AGAIN.
Jaxson Perry
>BC sold overseas It failed in the west because the anime adaptation gave Asta an annoying voice so everyone dropped it.
Thomas Lee
While I agree with you that BC is the better manga. There is no way it will keep up the linear growth for three years.
Jayden Baker
samurai 8 when?
William Parker
>because the anime adaptation gave Asta an annoying voice I mean it fits his character
Jaxson Garcia
It's popular in frogland tho and French buy more manga than burgers.
Tyler Campbell
The number is going from 7 million to 8 million from vol 19 to 20. Cope harder, TPN is ending next year anyways.
It’s terrifying to think whether Shonen Jump will survive OP ending if these numbers are true.
Christopher Taylor
Only Isekai can save WSJ
John Gonzalez
Even without OP and HxH, Jump would still be the best selling magazine in Japan.
Blake Richardson
True but without a replacement for those two they will need to downsize greatly ‘at best’ and may not survive the transition/will sell.
Jeremiah Nguyen
>still better than bc Nah, and I say this as someone that use to love this series. Azami and RDC was bad, but the current arc is dogshit with it's NTR, SUPERPOWERS, COOKING WITH CHAINSAWS, TURNING CHEAP MEAT INTO HIGH GRADE MEAT WITH UMAMI. Even the art isn't what it use to be.
I kinda want OP to end now just to see what would happen to jump
Matthew King
They fucked up when they rejected SnK. That would have easily been their next OP.
Oliver Miller
>I kinda want OP to end now just to see what would happen to jump Bigger series have ended in WSJ, like DB and Slam Dunk. The magazine will always find a way to survive.
Elijah Sullivan
yeah and bc is even worse
Jaxon Long
>All of these "dude how will Jump survive without OP lmao" posters >When it survived Slam Dunk + Dragonball ending >When Shueisha is still by far the publisher with the most manga sales
Adam Sanchez
>When it survived Slam Dunk + Dragonball ending The thing is there probably won't be another DB, OP or Slam Dunk.
>The thing is there probably won't be another DB, OP or Slam Dunk. Nah. A new hit will definitely come along. Plus there's still HxH that sells over a million a volume.
>DB + Slam Dunk sales are still less than OP Look at the volumes. Sure OP is the best-selling manga, but it's currently at 92 volumes. DB has 42 in total while SD has 31.
Josiah Scott
>Naruto bigger than precure /PC/ BTFO
Benjamin Gonzalez
>Plus there's still HxH that sells over a million a volume. Once per year doesn't save a lot.
Mason Bell
>already Not already, but after the new volume is out.
Jaxson Gray
OP sells only in Japan. Outside of there its less relevant than DB, Naruto, Pokemon and MHA.
Blake Wright
>HxH - 1 million in 6 months >BC - 1.2 million in 3 months
>Once per year doesn't save a lot. With OP running, the guy knows the magazine is fine. Once it ends, he might be more active and decide to release more than one volume a year.
Ethan Cruz
You don't even read it
David Martinez
right back at you
James Brown
Both are fucking manlets. Imagine losing to a girl.
One Piece will overtake Batman in 2 years from now on and equalizing Superman at the ending.
Connor Scott
Togashi doesn't give a crap about WSJ. He also said if his sales drop he's gonna quit HxH.
Bentley Campbell
>Girl from act-age is higher than me Ouch
Wyatt Stewart
>One Piece will overtake Batman in 2 years from now on and equalizing Superman at the ending. Overtake what? I feel like majority of people know who those two are, but you can't say the same for Luffy, especially in the states.
Easton Taylor
We don't fucking know that though, i'm sure if Yea Forums existed back in 1996 everyone would shitpost about how Jump was finished after Slam Dunk ended.
I'm referring to the period where the readership went from its peak at 6.5 million to 3 million in about 3 years. And yes nowadays there are digital sales but we don't know the numbers for those.
Post proof. If you're talking about the Jump app, not everyone who has it buy Jump there.
Kevin Robinson
>Why the heck is Dr.Stone the only title with no official sales? It doesn't hit the targets fast enough. Imagine how embarrassing it will be for them to announce "Hey guys we're on 1.2-1.4kk" when both jujutsu and act-age hit 1kk.
Connor Adams
>not even milion You sure showed me.
Nolan Wilson
>literally making shit up
Samuel Moore
Axe when?
Adrian Gray
Is it true that Jojo sold 80 million+ without a proper adaptation?
Yes. Except for the little fact that it's so much more popular in Japan that it is still ahead of everything that is more popular than it in the rest of the world.
Joseph Price
Part 3 and Part 5 were insanely popular.
Jonathan James
It's at 100 million worldwide with 123 volumes.
Lucas Nguyen
870k in a week, kiddo
Camden Ortiz
Sadly never because they think pushing it hard will work when it sells even worse than other certain series that were also pushed
>Except for the little fact that it's so much more popular in Japan that it is still ahead of everything that is more popular than it in the rest of the world. Still less influential than both DB and Slam Dunk. Former that changed battle shonen, and latter that helped basketball gain popularity in nipland.
Luis Ortiz
see
Kayden Scott
>DB just because it came out earlier doesn't mean it's good and influential >Slam Dunk just trace NBA lmao
Cameron Sanchez
So will the work of Kishimoto flop? I feel like someone else doing the art is going to hurt the series.
Sebastian Gutierrez
Not an argument.
James Roberts
why would it? Kishimoto's art is utter fucking garbage.
James Wright
All the shilling in the world and MHA is still nothing truly impressive
Carter Butler
>Kishimoto's art is utter fucking garbage. I liked his art. Why do you think it's shit?
Julian Thompson
>influential You're really gonna try to diminish the influence DB had on battle shonen? Even Oda is a DBfag who acted like a massive fangirl when he met Toriyama.
>just trace NBA lmao Not an argument. It still helped the sport gain popularity in nipland, along with Korea from what I've read.
Carter James
>Kishimoto's art is utter fucking garbage. I know, but the artist for his new work is pretty shit as well. Might as well give readers the style they're familiar with.
Oda said that TPN and MHA is good. Its just Shueisha forcing him to say these things.
Jaxson Sanders
why is worldwide and digital not counted for all series?
Gabriel Evans
Kishimoto made a flashback chapter for Obito without text. There wouldn't be nothing wrong about it but like two or three weeks before Bakuman had this concept and part of "silent" chapter.
Dominic Green
What shilling?
Tyler Sanders
Just want my fucking short sequel. Kubo is good at weekly monsters with SoL.
>Oda said that TPN is good Oh I remember this. Oda is just a money whore. If you give him money he will do whatever you want him to do
Brayden Martin
Toriyama is just a good artist. His writing is trash tho
John Campbell
Yes. He is Shueisha's dog.
Jayden Murphy
I love Oda for putting Obelix on his manga
Jordan Butler
>His writing is trash tho Nah.
Wyatt Perez
Everything running except OP and HxH is garbage, prove me wrong
Kevin Bailey
OP is garbage too
Carter Young
OP is garbage too. It peaked with I WANT TO LIVE. While HxH is a jumbled mess that won't get a ending cause it's mangaka doesn't truly give a fuck about it.
Ayden Torres
>everything running except OP and BC is garbage Ftfy
Ian Kelly
Funny because the Chimera arc is one of the weakest arcs
One Piece is my favorite shonen, but Oda does not handle his females as well as Tabata. Can you imagine Nami developing in every arc, or fighting alongside Luffy as equals? Pretty hard to imagine.
Tabata's female cast is arguably the best in current Jump. Keep seething
"Mangaka mentioning other manga is a very elaborate ploy from the editors to sell more" is just another meme from ToC threads. Just like the meme that ToC = actual ranking.
Henry Myers
>HxH is a masterpiece, It can be one of the best titles to come out WSJ, but only if Togashi manages to neatly wrap up everything he's put on the table and give it a proper ending. Which I simply don't see happening.
I can't even imagine the levels of seething if Kimetsu will actually start outselling BC.
Brody Wright
>Tabata's female cast is arguably the best in current Jump. Oh no, this one is retarded too
Logan Sanders
>Pretty hard to imagine. You don't have to imagine, in the Whole Cake Island arc Nami helped Luffy defeat Cracker and hit Big Mom with a huge lightning bolt. Also, Nami has plenty of character development which has been more interesting than Noelle pulling power-ups out of her ass and saying "I'm strong now!"
Jeremy does it for free, too bad he can't clean his toilet for free.
Carson Perez
How do you guys have the same argument,debate,bait being posted and replied to every thread?
Nicholas Mitchell
the only reason soma hasn't been canned is cause majority of series in the magazine sell than less it. this is bullshit. tsukuda is just going to drag the series down even more if possible.
Samuel Smith
>shitposting Why doesn't anyone ever wanna talk about Jujutsu?
What's wrong with that power system? Powerups come about through character growth (Zatch Bell has a similar system), they don't just get a random powerup because they're cornered without any options. Might as well call this an asspull with your logic
>OP literally says "sales of everything till now" >One Piece selling 450M in a year >HxH selling 70M in a year >HQ selling 35M in a year Are you the biggest brainlet that has ever walked on earth?
On what ground do you call yourself cloverchads? You have no sales to back up any chad argument, BC is not popular and doesnt have any fandom whatsoever, the threads are slow as shit and only about shipping. BC is just a copypasta of other famous shounen and nobody with any authority has said something good about BC, except maybe if they had to hype it for Shueisha's request.
Kayden Johnson
>Lots of sameface as well Majority, if not all, mangaka have sameface. It's called finding their own style, and it's only a real problem when you're not able to tell the characters apart.
This, BC is trash. Hopefully it will get axed soon.
Adrian Cox
That I would agree with.One Piece isn't revolutionary manga, it's just a very very well done manga.
Luke Rivera
>One Piece isn't revolutionary manga it literally is
Jeremiah Sanders
>it literally is So what exactly did it bring to battle shonen that previous works didn't? Toriyama popularized the whole "MC needs to face stronger enemies" trope which even has it's own nip word.
>Toriyama popularized the whole "MC needs to face stronger enemies" trope HAHAHAHAHA
Julian Edwards
>BC already losing to KnY and the anime hasn't even started, whereas BC's anime boost was crap
Wyatt James
It sure did.
Carter Ross
You can't compare an outlier to MHA, where every character has unique eyes, mouths, ears, etc and even further difference because of their quirks. Nobody is that distinct, even in real life. Hori is consciously aware of the fact he needs to make his character designs totally unique from each other, other mangaka don't need to do that.
Jayden Richardson
>it has great character designs as well. They're okay. I think his best designs usually go to side characters which is unfortunate.
John Jenkins
>On what ground do you call yourself cloverchads? Kek imagine being this delusional
>posts a panel to showcase his that hori doesn't suffer from sameface or similar characters >buff guy behind the girl with hat looks similar to kirishima
When will you fags stop ruining every single jump thread?
John Bell
>MHA hardly has that problem Because it solves it with unique character designs instead of drawing unique faces.
Aaron Green
Why do you think so, user? It's my first and favorite manga out of thousands I have read, but for now it hasn't inspired a whole new generation of writers to write adventuring stories. It is a manga a whole nation reads, but that whole nation reads manga anyway. I don't really see a reson to call One Piece revolutionary.
Joseph Fisher
Never. OPfags and HxHfags will always be obnoxious due to sales while BCfags will continue to shit up threads in order to convince people their shit series is actually good.
Angel Harris
>He thinks we can have a regular thread about Jump in [current year] It's impossible at this point, the ToC threads and anything related are the home of shitposters.
Eli Perry
thats the point retard
Luke Jenkins
>I don't really see a reson to call One Piece revolutionary. Didn’t it outsell superman or batman? Characters who had tons of writers contribute to their history and Oda outdid them all
Connor Butler
>Didn’t it outsell superman or batman? Yet Luffy isn't known worldwide like those two.
Cameron Green
This. Any artist can come up with a million different facial features
Mason Jones
>Any artist can come up with a million different facial features and yet most don’t
James Sanders
>We Never Learn (11 vol) - 2 million (JP+digital)
I thought this was doing well? Pretty sure even 5toubun is doing better than this now. What happened?
Jason Baker
>non shounen in shounen magazine gee I wonder
Josiah Gutierrez
>What happened? Nothing. It's just the usual romcom shenanigans with Fumino always getting a lead on the other heroines. It's obvious where the manga is heading in terms of endgame girl so it's boring.
Bentley Nguyen
Yes because they don't need to. They'd rather focus on the quality of their story, something Hori doesn't do
Christian Ward
This
Xavier Gutierrez
It did. But being extremely successful doesn't make it revolutionary.
Carter Reed
>They'd rather focus on the quality of their story Pretty lame mangaka if they have to sacrifice art quality in order to maintain decent writing
Thomas Morgan
It sucks cause it always the same shit about the same 3-4 series.
Connor Smith
pretty lame mangaka if they have to sacrifice writing quality to maintain decent art
Isaiah James
No, it's a pirate one.
Brody Bennett
>Pretty lame mangaka if they have to sacrifice art quality I never said anything about sacrificing art quality. Their art usually ranges from decent to pretty good but the story is #1 priority. Hori is the opposite and doesn't care about the story as much given how shit it's become.
Jacob Jackson
Good thing I never made that argument then
Leo Garcia
It's not easy to excel in something as different as drawing and writing at the same time.
Jayden Foster
>It's not easy to excel in something as different as drawing and writing at the same time. Inoue says hi.
Lucas Williams
>I never said anything about sacrificing art quality. You said they were too focused on their writing to make their art good, so yeah you did.
>Hori is the opposite and doesn't care about the story as much given how shit it's become. In your opinion, since its still selling well it seems most people disagree
tsuyu is so irrelevant, its strange she's considered a main girl
Owen Phillips
The fact it still kept selling means people disagree with your opinion it worse after part 1. Also it’s not like people don’t lose interest in popular series, see what happened to Bleach
Chase Howard
froggie is irrelevant. hinata was as well.
Liam Jones
>BCucks literally worship this fucking cave troll I knew these cucks were scrapping the bottom of the barrel for validation but this is sad.
I didn’t say anything about MHA writing quality, I just said his opinion is his own and most seem to disagree with it
Luis Mitchell
They'll pretend they don't see it
Nicholas Turner
>You said they were too focused on their writing to make their art good, so yeah you did. No I didn't. I said they didn't need to come up with a million different facial features. I never said anything about their art being good or bad.
>In your opinion, since its still selling well it seems most people disagree Are MHAfags the new OPfags? Nobody with a brain uses popularity=quality as an argument. I bet you also think Naruto is better than Berserk.
Charles Mitchell
MHA is selling only to soiboys who enjoy capeshit. Captain Marvel made 1 billion and Acquaman went over 1 billion. That doesn't mean they are good.
Aaron Hall
>picked the ugly anime designs for orihime and rukia who are the best looking girls on the chart >bc pic that big >fanart of nami and robin and the bha girls instead of using a manga panel >ugly anime screencap of hinata and sakura ok
Joseph Martinez
>most seem to disagree with it Everyone in this board thinks MHA is shit, even some MHA fans think its shit. Selling 700k a volume doesn't mean nothing. Only OPtards can use the sales argument because they sell 2 or 3 M per volume.
Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury must be shitty artists, huh?
Jaxson Ramirez
Go take a look at the top 10 most sold movies or top 10 most sold music albums and try to say that sales = quality.
Carter Sanchez
They are compared to Beethoven, Mozart and Bach, which have not sold even 1/10th of MJ or Freddie Mercury.
Ian Myers
Wew I guess Nen is an asspull
Connor Barnes
This. Imagine if BC did 600k in a month. These manlet lovers would never shut up about it. Look at how hard they gas up the shit they barely have now.
David Cox
Reminder that mha is ending at around chapter 400 as stated by the mangaka while bc will go on for as long as needed.
Ryan Harris
reminder Hori needs 50 volumes you fucking numbskull and BC will probably end around the same time
Xavier Wilson
That info has been outdated for a long time. He's stated otherwise since then. Also, that original number is a misquote. He said the manga was 20% through its story arcs, which has nothing to do with chapter amount. This is also outdated now.
Dominic Russell
He's already running out of ideas, the filler youtube villain then tournament arc, now he's doing a zootpia rifoff arc.
Oliver Howard
>6 more quirks >the unknown OfA users >Shiggy proving himself and the current villain war >when the Nomu's are unleashed and the villain war becomes something more >prison break >year 2 and year 3 nah, he's fine
Adam Reyes
Don't forget America
Jaxon Brown
Shitposters bring up sales because it's an easy way to shit on something: if it doesn't sell it's garbage, if it sells a lot then it's popular so it's also bad.
Jayden Collins
bleach didnt decline in sales
Hunter Russell
somebody post BC sales chart please, I want to analyze it
Christopher Phillips
It lost 200k in the last volumes.
Ethan Kelly
he can do plot
Levi Collins
We like to pretend that one doesn't exist though
Austin Bailey
100k
Brody Russell
But Tabata's female characters are complete 1 dimensional garbage. Nami alone is better written than all of them. Only shonentard fightfags unironically think strong=/=good character.
Ethan Sanchez
>But Tabata's female characters are complete 1 dimensional garbage. this
Adrian Howard
What is Act-Age about
Cameron Powell
Togashi can handle both plot and art while Kubo and Oda will mind their own bussines writing manga for children.
>hunterchad btfos every other shounen again He can't keep getting away this, bros...
Thomas Jones
It's a good thing Noelle is both a badass in battle, on par with the protagonist as a fighter and she develops every arc. She's practically unrecognizable from how she was at the beginning.
Nami stopped developing in Fishmen Island (or Punk Hazard if you want to include the giant kids), before getting Big Mom's hax cloud because Oda realized her uselessness as a combatant. Robin's development stopped after Enies Lobby and since then she just smiles in the background going *fufufu*. Big Mom is a shit yonkou and Smoothie is useless.
>She's practically unrecognizable from how she was at the beginning. Haha Who are you trying to fool?
Daniel Allen
not like you even read the series to know if he's right or not jimmy
Adam Smith
There will always be 'short' series that sell more in the magazine Are bleach and naruto bad because assclass or death note outsold them for a while
Blake Garcia
Character development =/=good character. Well fleshed out and explored characters like the strawhats still shit all over the BC main cast. Noelle's character arc only requires her to get stronger as a magic knight. Nami and Robin's character arcs do not. I wouldn't even try to compare a basic harem tsundere gaining confidence to THIS:
>Noelle's character arc only requires her to get stronger as a magic knight. This and she doesn’t even train for her powerups, she just sorts gets them in the middle of her fights
Hudson Turner
>I WADDA LIVVV This is peak storytelling for the OPtard.
>let me die >wait no I wanna live with my friends ah yes, peak character exploration
Benjamin Brown
This really shows the state of Jump. HxH barely airs and everything else is just moderately average, especially with Boruto
Jeremiah Sanders
> cloverc ucks got BTFO again > oh my naruto speech in last chapter KEK
Easton Foster
>Plus counting sales outside Japan, HxH is well above 50 millions and Togashi is part of a prestigious élite, only 5 authors have sold more than 50 millions with two different series like he did with HxH and Yu Yu Hakusho. A true God, not a slave hack like Oda. Can we jack off to togashi a less less?
>naruto speech >had to try his hardest to refrain from killing him on the spot >visible intense anger the entire confrontation >yells at him saying he'll never forgive him >only told him to keep going because he's too far gone to stop wow just like my wholesome ninja speeches
Cooper Baker
>hxh has a total of 36 volumes and and 31 years to sell volumes >AoT has only been out for a single decade and only has 28 volumes >AoT is beating HxH by over 15 million in sales and yet the AoT fan base managed to be way less insufferable
>she just sorts gets them in the middle of her fights you mean asspulls?
Noah White
filtered
Dylan Scott
>and yet the AoT fan base managed to be way less insufferable Look man, I really despite whisperfags but SnK has most dysfunctional threads and faggots on this board by far.
I enjoy both One Piece and HxH and like seeing them be ahead of the rest.
Andrew Powell
>low volume ratio >random releases >hiatus You have to factor those things when you talk about HxH's sales. Its very impressive that HxH is a hitter with all those things in mind. No other series would be able to do it.
Lincoln Perry
Speaking as an SnKfag, they're one of the worst fanbases on Yea Forums. The threads are filled to the brim with shipping shitposting, and most of the time they're too retarded to use spoiler tags in OPs. Of all the manga I follow, SnK is the only one I have to worry about when browsing the catalog when chapters are about to come out.
Jaxson Peterson
>No other series would be able to do it. Vagabond
Robert Rogers
>Speaking as an SnKfag, they're one of the worst fanbases on Yea Forums. True, but at least they're contained. HxHfags on the other hand jump to almost every fucking shonen thread on the board just to start shit. I even saw drama in a 3x3 thread.
>No other series would be able to do it. Vagabond, Nana, and Glass Mask are three that come to mind.
William Rivera
every single thread in results in drama. WEG threads, sales threads, 3x3 threads. Every fanbase is retarded but they spread like a cancer on this board
Jacob Reed
>HxHfags on the other hand jump to almost every fucking shonen thread on the board just to start shit I really doubt those are HxHfags. That problem only started around last Summer or so. Before then HxHfags mostly stuck to their own threads.
Cooper Ramirez
It started when their general died. Everytime they go on hiatus shit hits the fan. It's like they read HxH and only HxH
Mason Lewis
Vagabond never had sporadic releases like HxH that came up with 1 chapter in 3 years. Vagabond released constantly for a period of time and then went on hiatus. Now the Vagabond fandom is dead and threads don't even exist here. Nana and Glass Mask don't sell 1 million per volume, neither are they released in the most challenging and competitive magazine in Japan.
Isaac Nguyen
HxHfags on the other hand jump to almost every fucking shonen thread on the board just to start shit. Weak should fear the strong.
Way to move the fucking goalposts. You know what else Vagabond doesn't have? Two seperate anime releases to push up sales. God you little shits are insufferable.
Levi Rodriguez
>Nana Nana fucking topped OP in terms of best-selling manga during one year, I forget which at the moment.
Maybe because Vagabond is garbage compared to HxH and no studio wants to pick it up because it would fail just like Vinland Saga is going to fail?
Brayden Ward
Oh shit there goes that argument
Levi Morales
>Maybe because Vagabond is garbage compared to HxH and no studio wants to pick it up because it would fail just like Vinland Saga is going to fail? If complete garbage is beating HxH by ten million in sales then what's that make HxH?
Landon Johnson
>Maybe because Vagabond is garbage compared to HxH and no studio wants to pick it up because it would fail just like Vinland Saga is going to fail? Vagabond is one the best-selling manga of all time. It has one more volume than HxH, but it's at 82 million which is 10 million more. Plus it's by fucking Inoue, who's untouchable due to Slam Dunk. Fucking idiot.
Only by 50k. Irrelevant *1 2,300,000 NANA―ナナ― *2 2,250,000 ONE PIECE *3 1,620,000 NARUTO―ナルト― *4 1,560,000 HUNTER×HUNTER *5 1,270,000 DEATH NOTE *6 1,190,000 BLEACH *7 1,150,000 REAL *8 *,720,000 テニスの王子様 (Tennis no Ouji-sama) *9 *,645,000 D．Gray－man 10 *,540,000 天上天下 (Tenjou Tenge)
Aaron Jones
>HxH (36 Vol) - 72 million (JP) How on earth does he do it when he rarely updates?
Hunter Gomez
How is it irrelevant? The guy said Nana isn't a million seller.
Anthony Jenkins
>garbage compared to hunter >create by base slam dunk Inoue who sold more than hunter and yyh combined kek
Jayden Cooper
>Nana and Glass Mask don't sell 1 million per volume >2,300,000 NANA―ナナ― >Irrelevant Are you retarded?
Gabriel Smith
But user that says it beat HxH by 860,000 not 50,000
Juan Roberts
OP is complete garbage and its beating everything else by 300 million more in sales. Quality > Quantity. I'm saying that HxH releases randomly and takes 2 or 3 years hiatus for 10 chapters, yet to this day its still selling 1M per volume and in the past 5 years, the only manga that have sold that much in Japan are OP, HxH and SnK.
Andrew Johnson
>OP is complete garbage >the only manga that have sold that much in Japan are OP, HxH and SnK you need to take more time between your posts and think about what you're going to say
>This was from 2005, mate. And? The point is that Nana was a million seller. If Nana were to come back, it would sell even more than HxH. Same with Vagabond.
Matthew Adams
>IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I SAID SO anyone wanna take bets on whether or not his balls have dropped yet?
Is this the point where we point out that sales doesn't equal quality and Hunter has hilariously bad quality compared to literally every other manga on the list?
>*7 1,150,000 REAL How does Inoue do it? He has three successful works under his belt.
Cooper Ortiz
>If complete garbage is beating HxH by ten million in sales then what's that make HxH? anyone have a senzu bean?
Nicholas Walker
The point is that HxH releases randomly and sells millions by the volume. The list I posted are about volume 21 of HxH, which was during the CA arc and Togashi was taking 2 years hiatus between each chapter. Yet look how much HxH was selling. Was Nana taking 2 years hiatus between each chapter in 2005? Also, I'd really like to see how much Nana would sell today. That trash wouldn't even make it to 300k.
oh shut the fuck up, HxH didn't even make it in the top ten last year
Kevin Lewis
>Also, I'd really like to see how much Nana would sell today. That trash wouldn't even make it to 300k. Do you seriously not know how big of name Ai Yazawa is in shoujo?
You're assuming he knows anything about the industry outside Hunter x Hunter
John Bell
see Nana has 3 volumes. HxH has only 2 and you have to account all the hiatus.
Robert Gutierrez
Go look shoujo manga sales and compare them to shounen, then come talk to me. Because HxH only released 1 volume last year. Vol 36 didn't even make it to Oricon.
Henry Wood
I care!
Adam Ortiz
This discussion reminds me of that thread where some hunterfag tried to shit on Rumiko Takahashi and Inoue while comparing them to Togashi and got fucked in the ass by literally everyone.
Lucas Jenkins
So despite both starting in the same year and both having the same amount of volumes, you honestly contribute the 15% more in sales solely to not being on hiatus? Is that really you're argument?
>That trash wouldn't even make it to 300k. Nana literally outsold HxH as shown here . Cope harder you little bitch.
>inb4 B-BUT IT HAD ONE MORE VOLUME Who cares? OP has four volumes on that list.
Carter Moore
That's a big factor. A lot of people dropped it because Togashi kept going on hiatus whenever he wanted and released one chapter and then went on hiatus again. He lost a lot of fan. HxH used to outsell OP when it first came out, for like 10 volumes, then Togashi started going on hiatus and he lost a big share of the readers.
Christian Long
hiatus + random release + 2 less volumes = shitty romcom beats masterpiece
>hunterfag tried to shit on Rumiko Takahashi and Inoue while comparing them to Togashi and got fucked in the ass by literally everyone. They're so fucking annoying. I'm convinced that the constant hiatuses and fear of never getting a proper ending fried their brains.
>They're so fucking annoying. I'm convinced that the constant hiatuses and fear of never getting a proper ending fried their brains. there's just a lot of overlap between tumblr and discord so there is a lot of literally mentally ill people posting
Dylan Sullivan
>a huge chunk of hxhfags are from tumblr it all makes sense now
The fact that you keep samefagging your own post with non Yea Forums related images shows how much angry you are at the fact that HxH is more successful than Vagabond
