Is Mob Psycho a well-written series?

This guy.

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Yes, it’s honestly better than one punch man in terms of character development and characterization

I was initially skeptical, but I've really enjoyed Ones writing in the things he's worked on. Maybe it's not kino, but the comedy always lands well with me.

I think it works. He basically was a sociopath, and mob above all was trying to avoid becoming that. He was a dark mirror that mob couldn't magic away.

He beat mob (ideologically) until mob realized that even if he couldn't convince him, he could at least stay true to himself. That realization came after he saw himself slipping into the same delusions, but remembered his attachments and fear of harming others.

So it’s talk no justice but it actually helps the themes of the work

It has well written single episodes and 2-parters, but anything longer and it falls apart. The last 5 episodes of II were a chore to watch

The where a chore to read
Fun to watch in anime form

do you get enough good boy points to stop being cucked by your superiors if you post enough lies on the internet you sad little unloved boy

watch more than 50 anime

>8/10 It's good but not that great

100/10

>Not even a week past the end of the anime and with the fujos gone the only thing that keeps people talking about this shit is shitposting.

And some fags even called this a masterpiece what a dissaster of an anime.

Get out of here with your 3 point scale, an 8/10 is great you dumbass

That wasn't the ending. Still one more season to go.

When it's not doing generic battle shounen shit, it's pretty good. Loved the "Raiden Outed as fraud" arc, got infinitely bored with the Scar boss battle.

Yes it was AOTS too

I actually agree, I love MP100, but I felt the world domination arc was the weakest one in the manga. The anime at least gave me some pretty lights to entertain my lizard brain

No. It's not cohesive whatsoever. The themes it shoves down your throat are frequently contradicted by the plot.

"Mob fighting is wrong its okay to run"

Then later in the story mob ends up demolishing his enemies with overwhelming force.

"Psychic powers don't make you special blah blah blah"

*every single issue is solved with overwhelming psychic force*

Even the issues Reigen goes through he can't solve. He relies on Mob causing a literal earthquake to get him out of it.

This series is a fumbling mess of writing almost as terrible as Naruto's "hard work and determination over come all" BS.

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So basically even if his reasoning had no faults. Mob won by staying true to his own values?

That is kinda depressing. I liked this larger message Mob had in it. That even if we are special in our own way we can't work in this world without others. So this guy had enough power to be above others, lead and oppress whoever he liked. He was by that justified to be ruler of all and only way he could've been defeated was by believing in your own morals. It's lame.

Reminds me of Meruem

His reasoning did have faults, it was self destructive. He pushed both his wife away and almost killed himself by pushing himself to the limit

Nah, in terms of power he had no real chance. Mob, a child, with no stockpiling, had him matched. Also, theres no telling how many others in the world could have beaten him (even if he believed himself supreme, mob existed).
He was defeated by the MC in power. However he almost forced the MC to violate his ideals (not his goal overall obviously... but from a narrative standpoint, the goal of the character). Mob didnt defeat him by believing in himself. He just managed to stat true to himself by believing in himself and valuing his bonds.

It wasn't that mob talked him into defeat. He had him beat, and then with his actions and unwavering approach managed to convince his opponent to question himself in the end (which he hadn't done up until then, and if the series continues we will see him change as a result)

So in the end he was just not powerful enough to take all responsibility. You would probably have to be a God to even attempt to do it. Then it makes sense.

This.

I agree. I liked Mob in the beginning, but like said the writing completely contradicts the themes the show is trying to expand upon, making the entire thing feel hypocritical.

The characters are decent to great, the strongest aspect.
The dialogue is competent but kinda generic.
The story itself mediocre at best though.

I think the points is more of "using talents rationally" and not acknowledging advantage without putting yourself above others. It's about harmony. At the start of the series Mob is straight up refuses to use his powers. That leads to uncontrolled explosions. Mob learns to accept it gets more self control.
>"Mob fighting is wrong its okay to run"
It was said by Reigen who is literal fraud. Don't take everything he says at face value. In situation with claw the most rational solution was to fight and overwhelm them with power. Which is what happens, but by Reigen. And Mob does the same at the end of season 2.
>"Psychic powers don't make you special blah blah blah"
Again, due to being emotionally unstable kid Mob has warped understating of what it means.
>Mob gets bullied by delinquents
>refuses to use his power to protect himself
Think about it. If Mob was jacked and 2m tall would he refuse to use his physical strength to protect himself? No, he would fend them off without second though. But he was told that his powers are nothing special. What's the difference between him being physically strong and having strong telekinesis then? And that's literally what is addressed
>his brother uses telekinesis to protect Mob and says he also should use his powers to protect himself
>body improvement club uses physical strength to protect Mob
And the at the end of the season 2 Mob actually uses his power to resolve conflict, even though Reigen suggests to leave it to police.

>I think the point is more of "using talents rationally" and acknowledging advantage without putting yourself above others.
fixed

It’s a masterpiece.

>I’m the protagonist of my own life

Better coming of age story than FLCL

>Better coming of age story than FLCL
I wouldn’t say that until the final arc gets adapted.

Lol mob isn't afraid of getting hurt, or losing, he wants to run because he's afraid of using his power because he doesn't like hurting people and feels nothing but guilt from dominating them

the point is that sometimes doing nothing is itself an even more heinous action, it doesn't matter why he has the powers the fact is just that he has them and that itself makes him responsible for the consequences of events around him whether he accepts it or not

so the story is about him overcoming his mental block, it's not that his powers are amplified by emotion, it's the opposite, 100% is simply his powers being used freely and without inhibition because his mental state is aligned in a single direction rather than being clouded by inner conflict and paradox

even god is jealous of humans

that sounds like something a human would say

That's cool. Now I want a S3

This. Both seasons are pretty good until the 7 epsiode mark, but the minute battles start happening, all plot consistency goes to shit.

No we get epic fights

That sounds like something a jealous god would say.

careful mortal, someone might smite you

> "Psychic powers don't make you special blah blah blah"

ONE's main purpose is to teach you that superpowers aren't that great, they are boring, and there's nothing wrong with being a normal person living a normal life.

That's why he only draws\writes manga about superpowers instead of normal school manga like the majority of those who work in his field.

idk, the real charm is in all the side characters but half of this season was spent focusing on Mobs development. Either way it's fun

I think you are rationalizing the contradictions.

Mob psycho has a few main themes that it doesn't try to make subtle.
1. Having special powers doesn't make you special. (contradicted by all the problems being solved with psychic powers)
2. At the end of the first season. Fighting is wrong and you should leave that to the authorities (contradicted by mob using his powers to smash a revolution instead of leaving it to the government.
3. Friendship is great and bonds make you stronger.(The evil spirit guy proved this wrong when he showed Mob that he'd be a complete loser if it wasn't for his powers.)

>mob isn't afraid of of getting hurt
Never said otherwise
>the point is sometimes doing nothing is itself even more heinous action
1. No the show never makes that point
2. That contradicts the theme of the ending of season 1

One is a dumbass whose thoughts are not even half coherent.

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>ONE's main purpose is to teach you that superpowers aren't that great, they are boring, and there's nothing wrong with being a normal person living a normal life.
Which is a fucking garbage moral. Exceptional people doing exceptional things are a driving force throughout history. Mob Psycho and One Punch Man are literally the Japanese cuck mentality of being ultra-conformist turned into manga. No shit normalfags lap this garbage up.

Yes.

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Just because it solves a problem doesn’t mean it’s special.
Also, you’re an idiot of you think Reigen is an authority. The message isn’t just “don’t fight” the message is “don’t fight if you are not comfortable with fighting.” This season finds Mob becoming comfortable with using his powers to fight others, not because he wants to harm them, but because it allows him to save people.

I thought it was actually some pretty well-written character growth. The president mirrored the ideology of the blonde kid from the first season (even repeating the "I'm the protagonist of this world" lines). In the first season, Mob does win through his power alone, but it does sacrifice staying true to his own ideology. Against the president he almost does the same thing but decides against it and ultimately is able to win while staying true to himself

This, the series really shines when it's about Mob personal life and how his powers fuctions in those situations. Got tedious when it's becomes a shonen tryhard

You’re in luck because the rest of the manga is entirely that

>Also, you’re an idiot of you think Reigen is an authority
Not him, and I agree with most everything else you're saying, but "authority" can mean "adult in charge" in this context, which Reigen was acting as at the end of the first season

I really hope they make a third season. The end of the finale just made me want more pseudo slice of life episodes

I suppose that’s one way to look at it

It's clear from both his fight with the blonde and him constantly saying "i can't use my powers on humans" that the first seasons main theme was to not fight but to leave those problems to the authorities.

You saying it as "don't fight if you don't feel comfortable" is an after-the-fact rationalization.

>Mob becomes more comfortable using his powers to fight others

Which is a direct contradiction to the themes of season 1. This isn't "character growth" it's character 180.

Completely switching a character for no reason whatsoever makes no sense. Somehow Mob still manages to be a self righteous piece of garbage even after this transformation.

"yeah using your powers on others is wrong and I'm all self righteous about that so I'm going to use my powers on others to prove how totally right you are and still act like i'm somehow correct."

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Yes but not astounding.

I think its a moderation thing. Not every fight is "your fight" but fighting itself isn't a thing to be avoided if its necessary.

if that was the case why didn't he fight claw? What about with the blonde?

Seems like fights that were his fights dont they? You are obviously trying to rationalize the contradiction but to anyone who watched the story its obvious you are deluding yourself.

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I reread the ??? chapter today and found a comment from Toichiro pretty interesting.

>to think the gap between us was this wide
It's a big gap, but how big are we talking about?
>I only needed to borrow some of his energy to make up for the power I lost
>Just by taking a few hits, I was able to replenish a considerable amount of energy

So only a few hits from Mob was enough to make Suzuki pretty OP again? That kinda says something about how much Mob was still holding back during their first battle.

>I think you are rationalizing the contradictions.
Yeah, that's called analysis. I think you just refuse to look at MP from another angle.
>1. Having special powers doesn't make you special. (contradicted by all the problems being solved with psychic powers)
It's about perception of yourself. Having supernatural powers makes you special by definition. Just like having any extraordinary talent makes you special. Mob fights people who think they are above other just by virtue of having one single talent. Then they realize they are not above others just because they are good at one things. It's not some deep reading into MP, it's on the surface.
>3. Friendship is great and bonds make you stronger.(The evil spirit guy proved this wrong when he showed Mob that he'd be a complete loser if it wasn't for his powers.)
He didn't just took his powers, he also placed him in shitty social circle. And the Mob acknowledges that he is extremely lucky to have his power and make good friends. And when he fights boss at the end of season 2 he asks him if he were unlucky. Because he knows what shitty conditions can do to a person.
>2.
Remember it pretty vaguely, can't say anything.
>It's clear from both his fight with the blonde and him constantly saying "i can't use my powers on humans" that the first seasons main theme was to not fight but to leave those problems to the authorities.
It wasn't the theme. It's the opposite. The main Mob's problem in s1 was him suppressing his emotions and powers. Fight with the blond guy ends with Mob going apeshit and destroying entire school and nearly killing that guy because of that.

>Which is a direct contradiction to the themes of season 1. This isn't "character growth" it's character 180.
Completely disagree. "Don't use your powers against other people no matter" is something Reigen taught Mob in season 1 that he followed almost blindly, but began to question to some extent (I.e. using them in self defense). Then in season 2 Mob's character growth is that he starts to decide for himself the ideology he wants to follow and realizes that Reigen isn't infallable. Where before Mob realized that he doesn't believe in the absolute law of "never use your powers against people," in the last episode he realizes the opposite is true: he doesn't have to use his powers against people even when he's the only one strong enough to succeed. I think 'Only use your powers when you're comfortable using them' is where he ultimately ends up and is the happiest at

Think about it from the context that Mob is in middle school. Not sure if it's different where you live, but it's not uncommon for children to be taught the blanket statement that adults = authority figures

>if that was the case why didn't he fight claw?
He was about to, but he was too emotionally unstable and could just kill Claw members, so Reigen had to interfere. I don't really like the end of s1, because Reigen getting power up from Mob felt like an asspull. But thematically it makes sense, since he was the only emotionally stable adult without grandiose delusions.

Choese your husband.

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>"Mob fighting is wrong its okay to run"
>Then later in the story mob ends up demolishing his enemies with overwhelming force.
Reigen told him it is okay to run away because Mob wasn't obligated to fight, it was spelled right at you how Mob felt pressured that he fighting was his duty even if he wasn't willing because he had the power to do so, Reigen liberated him from this pressure, and then at the Claw boss part, he told Mob that he didn't have to fight, they could leave it to the police, Mob choose to go despite that, by his own choice, not because he felt pressured.

>I don't really like the end of s1, because Reigen getting power up from Mob felt like an asspull
I disagree that it felt like an asspull, because it fit the themes of the show. If Mob had just kicked their asses there's no lesson to learn (for the claw members). But having Reigan do it in such a way that their powers seemed laughably weak they ended up demonstrating their immaturity and realizing they really are nothing without their powers because they didn't nurture their other abilities to be well-rounded people

>not above others
People without powers are literally not able to accomplish anything important. Reigen can't even save his image without overwhelming psychic force and he's supposed to be a master BS artist. Workout president wasn't able to beat a roid monster even though he's worked out his entire life. How are psychics not superior to others if psychics are the only people capable of accomplishing anything?

>placed him in a shitty social circle

No. Mob even agrees with him that if he didn't have special powers his life would be shit. All of his friendships are a result of those powers. All social circles are shitty social circles.

>Mob's main problem in season 1 was suppressing his emotions and powers
This is from your ass. Emotions? i agree but the powers is like the exact opposite of reality. When you have an emotional moment at the ending where reigen says "it's okay to run" it's pretty clear what the message is. That isn't "mob shouldn't be suppressing his emotions."

Mob never questions the "don't use your powers against others" parts of reigen. There is no explanation whatsoever in the plot for his change in this. He literally just starts doing it when before he would literally let guys choke him out.

>he was about to, but he was too emotionally unstable and could just kill claw members, so Reigen had to interfere
Source: your ass.

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I'm not the guy you replied to. I'm doing my best to say what I got out out of it. I agree with you to a degree that the story can be self contradictory at times. It still fits with the main themes, but subthemes are often contradicted and subverted because the problems need to evolve as the character matures. This features in a lot of growing up stories, similar shit happened in Naruto.

I think its just good to keep in mind that Mob at any point of the story is not the same person at Mob in any given later part of the story. Problems aren't black and white, and his maturity and progression sometimes casts him in a different role in new situations than old ones.

That's literally what i said in my post. But an asspull is still an asspull even if it fits thematically. Themes and internal logic are different things. One may work, while the other may not.
But in second season it was made clear that Mob's powers have to do with energy control so it's not an asspull in retrospect. Still felt like one in first watch, though.

>Mob never questions the "don't use your powers against others" parts of reigen
Yes he does, but they don't hit you over the head with it. In season one he asks Reigen if it's ok to do in self-defense and is told no, but doesn't seem happy with the answer. Then in season 2 with the Reigen arc he realizes that Reigen isn't 100% right about everything. Then at the end of the seasons he uses his powers in defense of his friends
>People without powers are literally not able to accomplish anything important
It's a running theme that people with powers who see themselves above others aren't able to develop meaningful relationships
>No. Mob even agrees with him that if he didn't have special powers his life would be shit. All of his friendships are a result of those powers
No he doesn't at the end and his friendships aren't the result of his powers. They even directly spell it out for the audience in season 2 that Mob never showed anyone at school his powers (aside from telepathy club) so I have no idea where you're getting this from

>People without powers are literally not able to accomplish anything important. Reigen can't even save his image without overwhelming psychic force and he's supposed to be a master BS artist. Workout president wasn't able to beat a roid monster even though he's worked out his entire life. How are psychics not superior to others if psychics are the only people capable of accomplishing anything?
t. rando claw guy #75
Did you even watch the show? Mob calls out exactly that line of thinking when he encounters espers maradeuring a shop.
>No. Mob even agrees with him that if he didn't have special powers his life would be shit. All of his friendships are a result of those powers. All social circles are shitty social circles.
Did you even watch the show? He took away his brother. He put him in class with that cunt. He made his teacher into a faggot who doesn't give a shit about bullying in his class. Mob's class and family were much better even without his powers.
>This is from your ass.
Nigger, did you even watch the fucking show?
>Source: your ass.
Confirmed didn't watch the show.
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>espers marauding a shop
fixed

It wasn't the ending. And also how does one moment discount an entire series?

My only problem with the series is Mob essentially being Saitama. He has a completely different personality than Saitama but he is unbeatable and is only able to convince others with his words because he's stronger than them and can impose his will on them with force. I also don't buy into the idea that you shouldn't use psychic powers for your own personal gain, it makes no sense. People that are amazing athletes and have other gifts use those to their advantage, why should psychic powers be any different? Overall I think it is well written.

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I know it doesn't excuse the anime, but his character was better in the manga

For the last part meant to add that he realized his life would be shit without his friends, not without his powers. That was the whole point of the episode

>I also don't buy into the idea that you shouldn't use psychic powers for your own personal gain
to be fair 'own personal gain' seems to be bullying people to taking over the world, i doubt Mob would care is a psychic farmer was making extra big produce or a doctor using it to heal

>he is unbeatable and is only able to convince others with his words because he's stronger than them and can impose his will on them with force
That's because all villains he fights build their personalities and their entire life around their power. It would be unreasonable to just talk no jutsu them from their delusions of superiority.
>I also don't buy into the idea that you shouldn't use psychic powers for your own personal gain, it makes no sense.
Well he goes from not using powers at all and exploding to being more stable and using them when situation requires his powers.

As far as the anime goes I can agree, but mob eventually ends up meeting someone he can't sway with his will or his words.

??? Beats him and mob dies spiritually

Does anyone have the naked version of this? It was on pixiv.

II handled its final arc way better than I. I hated how the show turned serious in the first one, but in II, I was well in.

anime really went full retarded this season with morals.
I don't remember rolling my eyes over this fma level of preachy bullshit while reading the manga.

Is pretty much an "its alrigth-written" series.

Long hair is the best on men but he looks like crap here. I'll stick with the original flavor.

President and Mob were satisfied by very different things and they have very different worldviews

As a whole I think it accomplishes being one of the better shonens. It remains centered around Mob's character arc from beginning to end.

To beat him Mob would have to let go of his humanity on purpose and let out his full power, which he doesn’t like doing because he risks collateral damage and hurting others beyond his control. The battle between them isn’t power, but ideals. Villain guy exploded because he lost control, the opposite of Mob. The consequences of Mob losing control aren’t the same as his, but Mob’s loss of everything he’s worked for (friends, school-life, personal growth) through rampaging uncontrollably, would mirror how the villain just lost everything he’s worked for in his 30 year plan or whatever.

This?
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why was it so rushed?

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It’s not fag.
Go watch one piece

metaphors have to work in both levels

It's less about the fights and more about how they each serve as a motivator for Mob's personal growth.

>you shouldn't use psychic powers for your personal gain

It's less about never using your gifts and more about using gifts as an excuse to never improve yourself, especially when you're just as vulnerable to the same insecurities as everyone else but can hurt a lot of people with your abilities.

Finally a thread that it's not only shitposting/circlejerking.

Mob Psycho always manages to go above my expectations. Some of the greatest characters in manga/anime, even the minor ones.

I agree. It's good to see a thread with actual thoughtful discussion. People hating Mob for retarded "reasons" like capeshit or fujobait are just as bad people licking its ass like it's the best anime ever.

Mob Psycho always manages to go below my expectations. Some of the borest characters in manga/anime, specially the minor ones.

I'm kind of digging the under cut.

its amazing

I noticed that Tome gets drawn a lot better as the manga goes on. She's especially cute in the Reigen manga.

>Mob never questions the "don't use your powers against others" parts of reigen.
You're supposed to be able to put things together yourself without Mob having to outright say "Master was wrong about never using powers against others." We progressively see Mob getting more and more comfortable using his powers for his own purposes. First he uses them to help Emi. Next we get a hint that he needs to work on his overly passive nature from Tenga when he didn't protect himself from the bullies "Next time do it yourself. You have the power to do it". Then Mob runs into an issue where he wants to use his power against people but stops himself with the ghost family. Then we get the Mogami Arc where Mob gives in and uses power against others until he's reminded of his friends and family and ultimately decides to use his powers against someone else for good. He experiences his first positive explosion and even outright says "I used to think these powers were of no use. But I'll use them to help people".
All of this should clue you in that Mob's perception of his powers are changing without him having to spell it out for you. And it should be obvious why he's more comfortable with using them during the Claw Arc. Heck, even in season one during his fight against Koyama Mob says "I'm not supposed to use these powers against others. But this is different!". Even then the advice wasn't absolute. It's clear that under special circumstances he would go against it and there was room for him to develop and question it. In season 2 he comes to his own conclusions. Things don't always start out black and white.

yeah but the the morality is cringe as fuck and belongs in a shonen
I meant, that fucking exchange between mob and boss, just wew

You are an actual brainlet.

i just finished the manga, but started from the final fight of the anime. is it worth going back and reading the first 90 chapters or does the anime basically adapt it as-is?

I think anyone with a brain could see its rushed pacing and lackluster soulless fights/interactions

1st season was actually entertaining though

You can stop shitpositng now

>soulless
Kek yeah right

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No one above 18 years old and 3 digits IQ should feel anything from shitty sakuga bait fights where the characters involved aren't good. And that is something that goes for all the villains of mob psycho. If you do, then leave, you have to be over 18 to post on Yea Forums.

Does anyone have the Smash Bros version of this with Ridley and Krool?

The only good youtuber posted a Mob video

youtu.be/30S5e2cKN1g

These eye catches were such a nice addition. Koya is so stupidly talented. I can't imagine being that good at something.

Besides Reigen all the other characters are too boring for me.