>does not shout name for every attack he executes like a stupid retard
>doesn't leave his sleeves empty like a stupid retard
>was introduced early in the series, yet he has not taken a single hit from anyone for 20 years
Can we agree Mihawk is on the same level as Rayleigh, Marco and Katakuri?
>didn't even use his secret weapon move to be calling an attack name yet
>only appeared several times, barely fought
In Marineford he faced Crocodile, Jinbei, Mr. 1, Luffy and Vista. Yet not a single scratch. Also, he doesn't have any scars.
Okay, fine. Let's talk about this. A fair topic.
"In the past, Mihawk was a rival to one of the most powerful pirates in the world, Shanks. However, Mihawk lost interest in him after Shanks lost his left arm."
This implies that Mihawk may be even stronger than Shanks now that the other has weakened, and that Shanks isn't a challenge to him anymore. Shanks also uses a sword, so they must have regularly sparred.
So far we know that he possesses the Kenbunshoku and Busoshoku haki.
In other words, you may be underestimating his potential. He's more like a yonko level-wise. A few explanations as to why he's not part of the yonko is bc he's a loner type, and yonkos get recognition when they have a large influence. Also, yonkos tend to have the haoshoku no haki. Perhaps Mihawk doesn't. Also, yon means 4 so there's only a few characters Oda could select for this position.
Not to mention he's known as the 'greatest swordsman'. That would rank him higher than rayleigh, though rayleigh is already past his prime. It's fair to say that he can beat anyone in a sword fight, I suppose. As of now. Bc of plot, zoro is eventually going to surpass him.
First of all, stop using Japanese names you fucking weaboo. OK? Good, then we can talk about this.
Oda already stated that Shanks only having one arm didn't make him any weaker. It's most likely just Mihawk and his high level of honour and discipline that makes him ignore Shanks because he's a one armed swordsman.
He's clearly not emperor level though, as you could tell when Jozu easily blocked his strongest slash, and Whitebeard just smiled as the slash travelled against him, knowing that it posed no thread what-so-ever.
He also couldn't win quickly against Vista, which implies he might be on the same power level as someone slightly stronger than Vista, like Marco.
When he meets Luffy for the first time, when Luffy tells him he's going to become king of the pirates, Mihawk says that it's even more difficult than to topple him. That means the emperors, who are all potential pirate kings, are stronger than Mihawk.
Plus, he couldn't even hit the non haki Luffy at Marineford, despite close combat battle.
>Gets to spend all day sharpening his sword skills inside of Perona
He's far above their level.
He's winning at life.
>>does not shout name for every attack he executes like a stupid retard
Why does Luffy do that anyway? Most of moves are all punches and kicks, he doesn't need to shout like a retard every time he throws a strike.
It's like a martial artist yelling "PUNCH, KICK, KICK, GRAB, JAB, LEFT HOOK"
Because shouting your attack can confuse the enemies, distract them and intimidate the weaker ones. If you hear Red Hawk you might think Luffy summon a red hawk but he just punches you with fire.
This is an anime board, retard. Weaboos are all over the place.
>complains about weaboos on an online anime imageboard
>Reddit spacing
Based.
No one fucking knows what the fuck benkonbusho haki means you faggot just call it CoO like a normal human being.
He's probably Yonko tier if faced 1v1.
He did cleave through an iceburg like butter.
I think he's limited only by the fact that he doesn't seem to have a crew at all and his refusal to commit to any battle.
>yonko
>has no idea what it actually means
>can't write it in Japanese
>uses the word anyway because he think that people who are not into anime will get impressed because he knows Japanese
The literal definition of weaboo trash. You know what Mihawk would do to weaboo trash? He would slice them in half using his pocket knife - he would never use his black blade on an unworthy opponent.
Runs from Shanks and gets low-diff'd by Vista
He didn't exactly run from Shanks, he just left because he fullfilled his deal with the world government. Whitebeard was stronger than Shanks, and he didn't run from him.
Jozu had the diamond armor ability. Diamond is very tough.
He wasn't really serious when going against vista. The same could be said for vista. Maybe they're around equal, or when one of them reveals their maximum strength the other will be utterly destroyed. We don't know yet.
Well, in order to become king, you have to conquer them all, so of course it's tougher than just being a yonko or someone lower in the power heirarchy. It's kind of like battling the elite four before becoming champion in pokemon.
I had the feeling that Mihawk wanted to test luffy. He was also asking him questions like 'is this how far you can go?' Like he wanted him to succeed further but if luffy was too weak then he couldn't help but deal that final blow. Shanks is fond of luffy, so maybe mihawk didn't want to kill him for personal reasons as well. He wanted to see what was it in luffy that shanks liked, perhaps. Maybe if he saw more potential he would leave him alone but apparently luffy was too weak for that back then so he kept pushing. He wasn't being entirely serious, again, so luffy evaded his attack quite easily at the beginning. Plus when you're in the air gravity needs time to take effect and increase your speed when you fall. So luffy could definitely see that attack coming.
>You know what Mihawk would do to weaboo trash? He would slice them in half using his pocket knife - he would never use his black blade on an unworthy opponent.
Careful with that edge user
It wasn't because of the diamond armor, Jozu didn't even use his diamond ability when he stopped the slash. Vista and even fucking Mr. 1 stopped the slash as well.
Apart from that, I mostly agree with what you say.
Don't cut yourself with these 7s user
Damn, and I thought I was a fucking autist. You spergs put me to shame.
Did you say something, weaboo trash?
why are you using a term made by 10 year olds on the Internet?
Because it fits you perfectly, weaboo trash
You're all a bunch of retards. Just call it pirate spider sense, armor haki and conqueror's haki.
sure, I do like Majin Boo :)
>calling people weaboo trash on Yea Forums while you are browsing and arguing in the same fucking thread
>being retarded enough yourself to argue with said retard just to have the last word
I don't care who's pretending to be retarded, it's pure autism. Now back to Mihawk.
He's probably in the very top-tier as far as the story goes, at the very least he's above Yonkou Commanders. I wouldn't be surprised if he had Crown of Kings, but I'm not sure if you'd consider "Best Swordsman" a king title and he seems perfectly happy where he is.
Until he gets fucking hit by something and we see how durable he is, I'm gonna say he's at least capable of going one-on-one with a Yonkou. We also need to see what exactly a Black Blade is and how you get one for an accurate assessment of his potential.
WANO SUX
Jozu is a fucking diamond. Mihawks slash is akin to an energy blast, and diamonds(at least in anime) reflect that shit.
>jozu didn't use his diamond ability to stop the slash
>when the light from mihawks slash disappears, 95% of Jozu is covered in diamonds
???
didn't fucking Mr. 1 stop a Mihawk air slash?
The vivre card databook states Mihawk is waiting for a swordsman who surpasses his rival Shanks, that implies he's himself on the same level as the yonko
I think it implies that he's roughly equal to Shanks as a swordsman.
His overall power and ability is probably just slightly below Yonkou level, with his swordsmanship skills specifically being Yonkou level.
If he was a wanted pirate with an active bounty he would probably be hovering somewhere around the 1 Billion mark, slightly over.
Also got fucking stomped for the rest of the fight
Stopping a non-full power attack doesn't mean shit when you can't consistently deal with the actual guy himself
I bet one of Mihawk's secret attacks is turning his swords sideways and using it as a blunt weapon to smash your shit.
People thinking he can only cut
>has not taken a single hit from anyone for 20 years
That's because he runs awag every time there's a challenge
>Jozu blocks his slash
>Mihawk runs away
>Vista stops him from chasing Luffy
>"I think we should stop this duel"
>Shanks appears at Marineford
>Mihawk runs away
>The WG wants to abolish the Warlord system
>Mihawk already plans to run away
Quads of truth
>animefags
Will Mihawk have CoC?
Yes yes Mihawk very impressive, HOWEVER
absolutely based and third-nukepilled
If he has it he will be looked at on Shanks level but if he doesn't then he will have been overrated by a lot of his fans probably.
He's obviously better than Shanks as a swordsman, or he wouldn't hold the title "the world's greatest". Some people keep saying that Shank's haki is superior, but there's no base for this. They would both use haki in their duels, in order for their swords to not be damaged (as Mihawk tells Zoro about during his training).
That being said, Mihawk and Shanks are friends and most likely never had life or death duels. Also, Shanks is the second weakest emperor after Luffy.
>Shanks is the second weakest emperor
There's no basis for this either, though.
We know for a fact that Blackbeard is the strongest. Then Big Mom is a giant and Kaido is a dragon and stronger than humans.
Shanks is only famous for his haki, but he doesn't have any special powers or fruits.
>Implying reddit spacing is a real thing
We do not know for a fact that Blackbeard is the strongest. The relation of power between the Yonkou has never been established officially.
Is Blackbeard the strongest? Probably, but it's not a solid fact yet.
>blavkbeard literally said he wasn't prepared to fight shanks
>strongest Conquerors haki we've seen
>stopped kaido from going to marimeford
>stopped the battle at marimeford
So how is a man with a crew as small as his, who also did all of this exactly the "second weakest yonko"? If anything he is the strongest you speed reading retard
>stopped kaido from going to marimeford
I would hesitate to use this as an argument for power. We don't really know how that encounter turned out. Shanks could have just persuaded him not to go, any number of things could have happened other than a straight-out fight.
All it says is that Kaido didn't want to bother with going through Shanks and the WG at the same time, it became too much trouble.
for all we know shanks can do things with haki nobody else can do
plus he has the best sniper, the fastest man alive and a 2000+ IQ second in command, I'm sure his crew is much stronger than fodder like jack or cracker
>he doesn't have any special powers or fruits.
In One Piece this does not disqualify him at all from being the strongest. You're looking at Shanks at a surface level and assuming that's all he has.
It's all speculative. We simply do not know how strong the 4 Emperors are in relation to eachother beyond the fact that they have kept eachother in check for a long time. This suggests they are all more or less equal depending on circumstance.
That was long ago Blackbeard said that.
Yes, his haki is ace.
As someone else pointed out, that doesn't tell us anything.
Yeah, he came into the battle when everyone else was exhausted. Not very impressive.
Ok, enlighten me, how could kaido be persuaded into not going to marimeford? What could shanks possibly offer to him? If anything it had to be intimidation or something of the like. In case it were intimidation then that would mean kaido fears shanks in a way. Even if kaido can't be killed, if he were intimidated it means that shanks has the possibility of doing something that kaido himself wouldn't be able to stop. So either kaido is as strong as shanks or shanks is stronger (altho he wouldn't be able to kill kaido). And remember, all the yonkos were in a stalemate before whoteneard died
Rayleigh is also only famous for his haki, and has no special powers or fruits. Shanks is probably stronger than Rayleigh.
All you need is haki
>how could kaido be persuaded into not going to marimeford? What could shanks possibly offer to him?
We don't know, that's the point.
All we know is that Shanks "stopped" Kaido from going to Marineford. We don't know if they fought. We don't know if they made a deal, or talked it out.
Also Shanks clearly has more going on than meets the eye - he speaks with the Gorosei, they afford him respect. There are a million things he could have told Kaido or offered to him.
They could have just gotten fucking drunk together.
>Also Shanks clearly has more going on than meets the eye
This only furthers my point.
Because of how the story has been presented, we can conclude that at the very top of the one piece powerscale we have
>im
>shanks
>kaido
>garp
>mihawk
That is, at this very moment. Blackbeards powerlevel is frozen for the time being, we need tobsee improvement from him to properly address how strong he is but i don't doubt that by the end of one piece he will be top 3
If it wasn't a friendly confrontation, then I'd lean towards intimidation
If only for the fact that - when Shanks arrived at Marineford - did he and his crew look like they'd just had a tough battle with Kaido? They looked 100% fresh to me.
>What could shanks possibly offer to him?
Government secrets? A poneglyph?
まさかお前は日本語が書けるんですか？すごい。アンタ感じしないで, 別にお前のことが好きじゃわけじゃないよ。バカバカし。誰がお前のようなくそ人間に好きになっちゃうと思うか？笑わせないで！
Isolate them from their crew and the power difference becomes more clear.
At that point it all comes back to ability matchups really. You have to start asking questions like "does the Big Mom we saw chasing the strawhats have an answer for Kaido's dragon form?"
I mean she can fly so that helps, but she's severely lacking in power output compared to mountain-destroying mouth lasers
BB I'd want to know if he got a 3rd fruit yet (or even can)
If he wants to round out his collection by making the 3rd a Zoan, he should really be aiming for Marco's phoenix fruit. That would perfectly cover the drawback of the Yami Yami and make him near unbeatable.
Shanks, I don't know. As of now I don't see how "badass normal with a sword and haki" can do much against Kaido's dragon form, but I'm sure Oda will give him something.
Haki is everything in One Piece. Remember that Roger didn't have a DF ability.
>Roger didn't have a DF ability
I don't think that's confirmed yet, but it's probably true
Even though he surrendered himself WG would still have him wear kairoseki shit through his entire body instead of having some wooden "shackles"
Fair point.
If Oda really was a hack, there'd be a late-story reveal that Roger had the Gomu Gomu but nobody ever mentioned it once before for some reason. Anything but that is fine.
He's past Yonkou commander tier in terms of strength, but to be Yonkou you need to have influence and many crews allied with you.
I feel like he'd have an even fight with Katakuri, but easily defeat Cracker and Smoothie.
>Marco
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