Dragon Quest CG Movie

so this is what anime people would look like if they had fleshed out noses

Can someone explain to me how this series is so popular in Japan and dead anywhere else in the world?

>CG
>using mostly non-VAs
looks/sounds shit

They do not look bad desu

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Because Japan has shit taste.

dragonquest came first before finalfantasy.

>GEMMA! YOU BASTARD!

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The designs look fine but it would just be objectively better with toriyama designs

I'm fucking glad. DQ is great.

>objectively better with toriyama designs
Toriyama's sameface artstyle is hot fucking garbage.

>based on best Dragon Quest

Mite b cool

It's pure fantasy with very little edge.
The west really fucking love their edge.

I would greatly prefer toriyama's designs
But it looks okay i guess
also its adapting the best game

Is this DQ 5 adjacent?

The movie still has his monster designs so not really

>generic non-Toriyama style

Ugh...

>ultimate megafaggots in this very thread suggesting that that's a good thing

UGH...

>the only thing that isn't Toriyama styled is the faces
>the worst part about Toriyama's style

I don't see the problem

Toriyama's artstyle is the very definition of generic.

This is literally the stupidest thing I've read on here

and had the best Claire designs that I wish stuck around instead of NuClaire who is less """problematic"""

Holy shit, no, that is like the complete opposite of the truth. There is NOTHING that looks ANYTHING like Toriyama's work. Goddamn, how wrong can someone be?

Retard.

How much of a retarded faggot do you have to be to believe that?

Is that why anyone can immediately recognize his artstyle? Because it's generic and looks like everything else?

sameface =/= generic

gantz 0 looks even better than thism wtf are you talking about?

What's wrong with Toriyama's faces? Also nothing about the characters is Toriyama styled, the most important things the hair and faces

other countries are full of retards

Toriyama has a really distinct artstyle rhe hell are you talking about

It's so generic it's instantly recognizable.
That's why so many people say "Hey is that dragon ball" when they see DQ characters.

Whatever you say lol

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yikes

>Japan
>taste

>What's wrong with Toriyama's faces?

Are you serious? They all look the same, of course. You KNOW this already, stop playing dumb.

SE fucking hates that this can compete with their previous FF titles so they barely promote it when they actually bring it here, because sometimes other companies have to bring the fucking games

Ultima streamlined with a ton of escapism

>186649235
>anons WILL give this bait (you)s

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It was the first of its kind and sticks to its roots. And it's just so goddamn pleasant and whimsical. What's not to love?

>t. ultimate megafaggot

Japan's taste is not as bad as yours

I suppose the Toriyama art and coming out in such a major economic bubble made it a massive influence on Japanese society. America’s exposure to DQ was a bit stunted due to the fact that the name had to be legally changed to Dragon Warrior, and with the series generally being sprite based while FF was such a massive hit on the PS1, it got more of a grip. DQVIII and DQIX was when they actually started the series for the general western public, and it’s gotten a stable fanbase that receives consistent releases, as opposed to FF’s wildly ranging tones, themes, designs, and release dates.

I would have preferred a movie based on III, but V is pretty much the best story in the series, let's be real.

>everyone bitches about Toriyama's sameface
>look up his other art
>extremely detailed, beautiful, colorful with distinct, amazingly presented cartoons exploding with personality and love

It's like he doesn't even try when it comes to established series.

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Dumbass contrarian Yea Forums posters never cease to amaze.

One thing to be aware of is he has pretty much given up when it comes to Dragon Ball, but also a lot of promo art for DB or DQ could also be from his understudies.

>no Deborah
>you can bet he's going to marry Bianca
It's shit.

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I'm glad Debora doesn't seem to be in there, that's something they won't ruin at least, now I'm not saying the movie will be bad but I'm disapointed to see a shitty Dreamwork's art direction.

OLD HAG

So they are making a movie themed by 5?

They don't ALL look the same, he's really no worse than many other manga artists, and it seriously is NOT an issue otherwise he wouldn't be popular at all.
Also a character is way more than just the basic design of their face.
People who say this just want something to bandwagon on, his face designs looking recognizable and similar across the dozens and hundreds of characters he designs were never a problem the 20 or so years he was became the most famous or one of the most famous people in the industry.

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Cute

Yeah, but how recent is that though?

It's a Japanese game and Japs have shit taste. That isn't to say other countries are much better, but still.

>guaranteed_replies.jpg

At the end of the day Toriyama is going to die or become invalid before Dragon Quest does. So of course they're going to start breaking away from him. It's the rational choice. They've already got so many designs for monsters and through Dragon Quest monsters they already have had enough time to replicate his monster style with various artists. They don't need to adhere to his other decisions anymore. He's gonna be a corpse soon, and while sad, so is the composer for Dragon Quest and we'll be better for that at least

Walt Disneys: How to Quest your Dragon(featuring elsa from Frozen™)

The movie is very clearly not going to go to go into the kid generation era. He's fucking fighting the Behemoose and it sounds like they're going to actually make him the Hero of Legend.

That way nobody gets pissed at him picking a girl over the other

Hook, line and sinker. Fucking idiots.

Bianca is literally basically just the girl from how to train your dragon

>"i-i was only pretending to be retarded"

>I loooooove niggerdicks! slurp slurp sluuuuuuurp

Does she have pig torture porn to boot

Just for once Japan. Learn from the west this time around.

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Let's be honest, Dragon Quest has perhaps the most generic jrpg story of all time and these characters and designs are incredibly dull and cliche.

So nuance and deviation from the norm is called edge now, good to know

DQ is my favorite game series. But I'm not digging this for a whole host of reasons. Which I won't bore people with a big rant list.

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how are nips reacting to the change of character designs?

They've learned quite a lot from the west. Like don't kill 2D animation and don't fall for the identity politics trend.

Let's hope this movie isn't a sign of regression.

But Spiderverse looks so different from the average CGI film, I don't get the point of this post.

And they're many good looking Japanese CGI films(Gantz,Saint Seiya,Harlock,RE,Doraemon).

>I feel pretty good, It seems that foreigners feel uncomfortable when they see the Dragon Quests Toriyama designs, but they may be the correct answer to change the visual

>>It looks funny
>I think it is the right answer to quit Toriyama's face
>I think it would be correct to stop Toriyama if it would be like a movie scene of Heroes
>Is it not Toriyama picture? Looks like a chrono cross
>Character modeling is DQ like Rapunzel or Anna from Frozen

toriyama BTFO

Why is DQ5 such a meme in japan?
I see it parodied a lot, the costumes are easily sold everywhere as a JRPG hero and now the movie adapts the story. What about the other DQ games?

DQIII and V are by far the most popular games in the series. But DQIII wouldn't work as a movie as well as V would. Also, DQV is Horii's (the series creator/writer) favorite.

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So they are using Dragon Quest 5 as the premise. Not bad.

it's like the FF7 of the DQ franchise

Horrible example because it's not similar in any way. Popularity, story or influence on the industry.

Please do. I like it, but I want to see and understand why others don't.

The real important thing to discuss is how much new BiancaxJami doujins this will generate

because Squaresoft never bothered to market them outside of japan

-The change in art style is unnecessary and looks way too much like How To Train Your Dragon.
-The (non) hero is the focus and he talks, breaking DQ tradition.
-Certain hints in the trailer make me question the path the story will take. And that begs the question, why even make this an adaptation of DQV? Just make a totally unique story.
-Of all the series out there, Dragon Quest tries to keep the aesthetic of its roots. This is a series that really improved cel shading and other methods to mimic 2D animation styles. It would be like them making a Wind Waker movie and it ends up looking like this instead of classic 2D. There's no logical reason to do it.
-If this movie is widely successful, it could set a precedent in the Japanese animation industry (along with Miyazaki jumping on the 3D bandwagon) for companies to rush to make overly expensive 3D films. Which could ruin 2D animation like it did in the west.

There's still a chance the movie could be good and not lead to ruin. There's just so many red flags that I worry about it. Nintendo rushing to make 3D Pokemon and Mario films as well.

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i don't really know jack shit about all of the design process but i'm guessing their are trying to pander to overseas markets with the new style, normies from overseas will connect toriyama's style to dragon ball and will dismiss it as a weeaboo movie.
They are obviously using DQ V for the nostalgia push to make cash even if it's shit. Also as some nip said, they are probably going for another style because it would look like some dragon quest heroes movie and i think they want to push the brand as a whole, not as a video game extension.

As for the 2d vs 3d cgi argument, they are getting better and better in terms of animation, they see frozen, incredibles and other disney animated movies getting billions of dollars, it would be dumb not to try to cater to that market.

This, Toriyama character art is shit

>i don't really know jack shit about all of the design process but i'm guessing their are trying to pander to overseas markets with the new style, normies from overseas will connect toriyama's style to dragon ball and will dismiss it as a weeaboo movie.
The west loves Toriyama and Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball movies get released internationally and do well. Also, there's no word about bringing this to the west. The reason they're making it 3D is for the Japanese market. Because, after Miyazaki films, Pixar films are the highest grossing films in Japan.

>As for the 2d vs 3d cgi argument, they are getting better and better in terms of animation, they see frozen, incredibles and other disney animated movies getting billions of dollars, it would be dumb not to try to cater to that market.
Obviously they're trying to do that. But I think the long term effects on their industry will be crippling. If the western market is any indication. Not only the chance that 2D will die, but because 3D films continue to get more and more expensive, despite the claims they would go down over time. Hollywood switched to 3D because Pixar promised the costs would go down. Instead, the average 3D movie costs $150 million now. With some going up to $250-$300 million. Compare this to the Japanese industry which averages around $5 million for a 2D movie. And their "expensive" ones get up to $40 million.

Hate the new designs.

Bianca's looks bad.

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Disappointing to see how many people are shitting on this solely for being CG. It honestly looks really good.

they are shitting on it because muh toriyama designs

>Resident Evil Vendetta was good

>Leon "muh vacation" Kennedy
>Chris gun-fu boulder-punch redfield and "muh duty"

>villain's master plan was being a fucking idiot

>barely marketed outside of Japan
>not as popular outside Japan

funny how that works

Bet you like Dreamworks.

its the only DQ with a plot. you follow the hero from childhood all the way to fatherhood. by contrast every other game the protagonists is just the chosen one that saves the world in like 3 days.

>western artstyle
inteo_the_trash.jpeg

>tfw main character luck stat never improves

Yes.

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Dragon Quest was made by Enix

Is it weird that I feel like the video games have better cg? It might be less technically impressive but it is more aesthetically pleasing, I feel

>no niggers
>no shitskins
it's already 10/10 GOAT

explain to me how bollywood is the biggest thing in India and the rest of the world doens't even know it exists?

All of Spiderverse animation was literally based on Houseki No Kuni techniques, mate.

Nothing wrong, the style of DQXI is so much better.

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Source?

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>The absolute state of Yea Forums.
Kinda sad, really. I like all cartoons, but the western ones have been shitting the bed lately. Give or take the occassional good Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks/Illumination all-nighter or stuff by Cartoon Saloon, Laika and Aardman Animation.

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Oh, and Yarob. Can't forget Yarob.

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>people unironically implying that Toriyama is good
DBfags please go and stay go

that works too

Huh, wow

>muh Toriyama have same faces
Like literallh look at any other mangaka's work. Almost all of them have a same face problem. Look at any artist really. Almosg all of them have a distinct artstyle. You fags are literally only shitting on Toriyama because he is famous.

This doesn't look like Toriyama artstyle.

>At the end of the day Toriyama is going to die or become invalid before Dragon Quest does
This is where Toyotaro comes in.

Yes it was good. Were you not yet alive back in the golden era of stupidly entertaining action movies?

>pretending to be retarded
here's your (you)

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I'm a bit surprised by the art style change and I'm not too sold by the trailer. Still hyped over it.

The raging faggots who bitch and moan about waaaa it's not my dragon quest go back to playing DmC can kindly fuck off a waterfall

I'm more curious about how they're gonna do the story. I can see parts like the hero and his wife being petrified for years only to be freed by their children being absolutely amazing or rushed as fuck. Actually I hope they don't pull their punches on the suffering at all because DQV was a game where the hero gets shat on throughout his life.

Will this be a trilogy?

user dragon quest has the most "generic" jrpg story of all time because it defines the jrpg genre and its tropes more than any other series.

I can see it ending at that point hoping for a sequel bait.

The only thing I'm going to hate is they're going to obviously cut out parts to make it a better paced movie but faggots are going to be like HOW FUCKING DARE THEY DIDNT INCLUDE MY FAVOURITE SIDE QUEST IT CHANGED MY LIFE NEVER BUYING ANOTHER DRAGON QUEST GAME AGAIN.

I only ever played DQ:VIII. Have i deprived myself from not going deeper into the series.

Once you play one DQ game, you've played them all. Maybe except the MMO.

Disney 2D animations were far more expensive though, and you can't really directly compare the numbers on wikipedia due to inflation. The production budget for Mulan was 90 mil in 1998, but now thats around 138 mil. Wreck it Ralph in 2012 cost 120 mil to make at the time, but now thats worth around 131 mil after inflation. Though you are definitely right about 3D becoming more expensive since the original Toy Story cost around 50 mil once you adjust for inflation, and the difference between 2D and 3D is not that large to justify all the 3D animation.

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Is there any place I can watch this with subs?

Looks pretty cool so far