So, why is it considered that HxH is a deconstruction of shonen?

>doesn't deny it
Go back to reading your child fiction.

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It's a fucking meme Yea Forumsedditor, stop giving shitposters attention, delete your thread and go read more manga OP.

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Shounenbabs trying to make their favorite shounenshit seem better than the other shounenshit

Naruto lover detected

>gon is so shit he got written out of his own manga
based togashi

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Because most shounen releases weekly.

spbp

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Pitou's a girl and you're just a gaylord if you can't admit it

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It's not a deconstruction, it's a refinement. It's got the tournament arc, it's got Cell, it's got the power system, it's got all the shounen tropes. It just does em all better.

Pitou is the best girl and is my wife

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MY

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When is it coming back?

Time to go take your meds pops, stop acting like a pseudo-intellectual online. You’re just projecting your obvious insecurities about the shows you watch.

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HxH is the Rick and Morty of anime

Koala former hitman

Imagine not being a hunterchad

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MOTHERLAND..!!

That would be one piece and naturo together.

Hxh is a deconstruction of the shonen genre.

Hunter Exam Arc: The "contest" arc, in which several characters need to compete with each other in order to win a title. This arc examines what would actually happen in a contest filled with superhumans- the normal humans die in brutal ways, the empowered individuals run rampant and murder dozens, and Gon barely survives only because the only two people that know Nen are Hisoka and Illumi, who likes Gon enough to keep him alive for Hisoka and barely processes Gon's presence for Illumi.

Phantom Troupe Arc: The "villain squad" arc, in which the heroes face off against a group of evil villains. This arc examines what would happen if you took superpowered humans and put them in the real world- the power gap between the troupe and the mafia goons is massive, and only Kurapika, who has limited his arsenal to specifically only fight the troupe can stand a chance. Even still, Kurapika can only do so little, and most of the troupe is still alive.

Chimera Ant Arc: The "enemy army" arc, in which a large enemy force accosts the heroes, with a powerful leader. This arc in particular examines the idea of having an enemy that is significantly stronger than you- from the enemy's perspective. What is it like being devastatingly stronger than everyone else? How would something that is on another level from everything process the worth of other creatures? What would something that was meteorically stronger than everything else think when it realizes that other creatures can think just like it can? What would it constitute as strength? The Chimera Ant King is a rather somber answer to all of these questions. Even more deconstructive is that the humans actually cheat to win- upon learning that he will die and realizing no one else can stop the king, Netero detonates a nuclear bomb in his chest than eventually kills the King from radiation poisoning, rather than a straight up fight.

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A Deconstruction is when the shit actually in a show betrays what's "supposed" to be the shows themes.

As a Shonen anime, to be a deconstruction it would need to have all of the trappings of a shonen show on the surface level, but betray them with its subtext. Hunter x Hunter does't ALWAYS do this, but there are some high profile examples of it doing so, especially during Chimera Ant. For example, Netero defeating the king by unleashing humanity's deep evil, not their virtues. Gon defeating Pitou through the same method, by being consumed with hate and rage, rather than heroic determination.

Interesting pasta, very good and true.

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We're still doing this? I thought HxHfags were put down after being ousted as Whisper x Whisper. I can see that there was damage done to your chad status as these threads aren't getting anywhere near bump limit as they were before.

A month ago HxH thread reached the bump limits. Don’t know what’s happening to HxH threads.

People don't want to be associated with whisper virgins. It was hilarious to watch before. They were like the DMC threads of Yea Forums - immune to shitposting, pasta everywhere that refuted people's arguments, threads spammed everyday.

Because Naruto ripped off HxH pre 200 people killcount episode and somehow people confuse in what order both shows have been released.

Why do Huntards pretend like anything BUT the Chimera Ant Arc was good? Everything else was just generic shounen tropes with endless fucking training montages.
Only the Chimera Ant manages to actually have some artistic merit and actual message behind, amplified only by the grievous tonal shift.

But the whisper song was a flaseflag operation to make HxH fandom look bad. You should not fail for that bait.

It isn't, still a great manga/anime

The same br/a/inlets that also think Madoka is a deconstruction.

Only retards say that. It subverts tropes, but that's about it.

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Madoka is a deconstruction of the maho shoujo genre.

I've also seen some argue that Devilman is a deconstruction of a battle shonen manga.
What.

It's not, don't fall for the memes. The only ones that say that are hiatustards

>Hxh is a deconstruction of the shonen genre.

>This arc examines what would actually happen
>This arc examines what would happen if you took superpowered humans and put them in the real world
>This arc in particular examines the idea of having an enemy that is significantly stronger than you- from the enemy's perspective.

None of that shit pertains to what a deconstruction is, retard. A deconstruction is literally just when a works subtext opposes its text or its surface elements. That's literally fucking it!

I don't know where the hell you idiots got this idea that a deconstruction is just a fantasy plot applied with verisimilitude, but you're fucking wrong and you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

There is legit deconstruction that happens in Hunter x Hunter, like how Hisoka is repeatedly portrayed as an antagonist when all of his actual actions have generally only been to the benefit of the protagonists. Notice that concept has nothing as all to do with any bullshit about how a villain would """REALLY ACT IN THAT SITUATION, DERP, ISN'T IT DEEP?!?!""".

Man, I like HxH too, but hearing you guys talk about it all full of shit and pompous to boot pisses me off to no end.

The pasta words it badly, but what the writer of it probably meant is that, for exaple, the Hunter Exam arc deconstructs the usual exam arcs because, other than what the pasta says (the normal humans die in brutal ways, the empowered individuals run rampant and murder dozens), there's also numerous other facts, for example how Gon loses his consciousness and we don't experience the finale of the exam (and everything has been building up towards it), instead hearing a short recap of it from a minor character, or how the tournament is structured (it's not the usual brackets shit).

>to be a deconstruction it would need to have all of the trappings of a shonen show on the surface level, but betray them with its subtext
>shonen is shit
>HxH is also shit
don't see how it's a deconstruction of anything

>People die in it regularly
>HOLY SHIT, THIS ISN'T LIKE MUH ONE PIECE!

I've tried reading HxH twice now and I don't know if the translation i found was bad or if everyone in these threads is memeing but the dialogue is fucking terrible, the plot is mediocre and the art is horrendous. There are some creative moments here and there but they don't do anything to offset the rest of this shit. I got to the point where Killuia fought the guy in the wheelchair and it felt like it was written by a high school student.

>"ant" leader is a king instead of a queen
Dropped

Be fucking careful or i’ll put you in a wheelchair.

by this logic mha is a deconstruction
>perfect shonen setting
>quirkless boy
>instantly number 1 in number 1 school

Actually, by that logic any new shonen is a deconstruction

>People die in it regularly
>Only main good guy character death is Kite but oh wait he didn't actually die he just became a loli girl.
>Clown guy dies but oh wait my gummy nen I'll just restart my heart and not actually die
Gon lost his nen permanently but let's face it he'll get it back if they ever get off the boat arc.

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How many times are you going to post this wrong pasta, nothing that you are mentioning is a decinstruction, you are just describing the arcs, by your logic dragon ball is deconstruction because Goku did not win his first 2 matrial arts tournaments, and Naruto because Orichimaru didn't kill the MCs in the chunin exams.

wtf who is he, he seems based

Im a hunterchad and I must warn you that your post is shit, if you're not larping, you must work on it to make it stronger, because right now is right, you basically just described the arcs and didn't say why and how it differs (because it does) from the conventional shonen arcs.

based

Based Hunter X Hunter retard

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Seething shonen fags btfo.

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You have no knowledge about shounen history that's why you don't see the obvious deconstruction intended by Togashi during the Chimera Ant arc.
It was a critic and text-book deconstruction of the DBZ tropes. Togashi went out of his way to make it obvious by giving Meruem a DBZ design, by including an old pervy and funny man that gets serious and strong when needed(Roshi/Netero) and systematically deconstruct the happy-go-lucky shounen protagonist Goku with the character of Gon.
When we read or watch a shounen arc where the villains are fighting the heroes for world dominance, we always see a line that divides the good (heroes) from the bad guys(villains). We are always given a lot of heroic deeds committed by the saviors of humanity, while the villains are always portrayed in a bad light.
HxH deconstructed that by showing that humanity can actually be way more evil and malicious than everything else. That humans can turn into real monsters, while the supposed monsters are able to become human. HxH as a whole but especially this arc is a deconstruction of shounen.

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Men does luffy looks ugly. But then again so does Oda and one piece

Well, similar to Watchmen, and how it's considered a deconstruction of the superhero mythos. It feels like every arc could be considered a deconstruction in a way, for most other anime within this demographic.

Take the Hunters Exam for instance, which takes an atypical approach to the prototypical premise of a boy in search of adventure. Hunter x Hunter takes a seemingly lighthearted approach, like most other anime within this demographic, just to intentionally turn everything on its head at every turn. It's set up this way so that when we expect something to happen a certain way, as it has in so many other anime, it ends up being almost the complete opposite of what we expect.

The Chimera Ant arc especially is an incredibly atypical take on the prototypical premise of a "big bad." Nearly every character, including the minor ones, drive the story forward with their thoughts and emotions, as opposed to their actions. Everything eventually culminates into one singular conclusion, as a critique on the human condition. What better way to do this than with ants?

On the other hand, most other anime within this demographic have a superficial "big bad" arc that relies solely on the actions of the characters to drive the story forward, without maintaining any sort of underlining meaningfulness.

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Retards who hate a genre in general misuse the word as an excuse for liking something from that genre.

>became a loli girl
H-how did he do that? Asking for a friend, lol!

>Replies with even more pasta
Holly shit dude this is absolute NPC behavior.

>HxH deconstructed that by showing that humanity can actually be way more evil and malicious than everything else. That humans can turn into real monsters, while the supposed monsters are able to become human.
Bullshit. None of the humans did anything wrong in the CA arc. It was a fight for survival, the ants needed to die.
Netro managed to only use his bomb in an area with no life in it besides the king.
That's amazingly heroic. The worst anyone ever did was Gon threatening an injured civilian, but even still that's all it was just a threat, he did no actual harm to her.
Meanwhile the ants were constantly killing people. Even after self reflection Meruem doesn't show any signs of regret for all his massacres.

yeah

Not an argument.

Goku didn't unlock Super Saiyan by his heroic determination, he did it by pure rage, same with Gohan and SS2. Dragon Ball has been deconstructing shonen far before HxH.

>None of the humans did anything wrong in the CA arc
You obviously didn't pay any attention.
>Decided immediately to nuke the ants without trying to find a peaceful solution
>Let 500k East Gorteau citizen die just so the Ants wouldn't notice that the Hunters were approaching their castle
>Used Dragon Dive on the castle knowing that the Hunters would be in the Palace, showing that they didn't care about collateral damage
>Threatened and used a blind, wonded, little girl as hostage
>Used a poisonous nuke that accidentally ended up killing 40k civilians
>Covered up the incident as just some plot by a dictator, hiding the truth from the people and taking control of the new lands for their own benefit

When does chimera ant arc get good? Im at the palace invasion part and wow is it slow and boring.
Just finished the Palm as black widow episode and I have not seen a single real fight in this arc.
And don't get me started on the ridiculous amounts of narration.
Netero vs king is at least going to be good right?

OH

So ... Theoretically ... Isn't Kite a queen ant now ? (Or at least at the power lvl of a royal guard)

Reminder that Hunters are EVIL
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>Gon defeating Pitou through the same method, by being consumed with hate and rage, rather than heroic determination.
and using a shounen transformation power up.

Go watch Mob Psycho, its more up to your taste. HxH just isn't for the likes of you.

The narration is a work of art, like a playwright's description of the scenery HxH is doing the same thing. It's refined story telling, go watch My Hero or something if you want punch stuff explain never.

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What was the point of that fucker.

>Brainlet who doesn't even realize that Kite is the representation of death with his long white hair and scythe and the Nietzschean themes of eternal recurrence present throughout CA that Kite's discussion with the koala capstones

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His final monologue is the most important scene in all of Chimera Ant if you really want to understand what that arc was about.

brainlet

46.613 people died of poison after waking from the hypnosis causing bodily failure

Why you faggots have to be so pretentious

>gets btfo

Eat a dick and suck shit you filthy faggot

it's not