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So shkanon or rosatrice?

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Rosatrice.

Okonogitrice

No

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I finished the game but had a hard time understanding.

So :

First beatrice was an Italien, who was part of an army with tons of gold. Got child (second beatrice) with Kinzo and died of illness?
Second Beatrice god incestuous child with Kinzo (who really had mental issue). Was killed by Rosa (but she was pregnant and the child (shkanon) survived but lost his manhood).
Shkanon was raised as a servant, loved her old colleague called Shanon. Was in loved with Battler, but he forgot it.
Shkanon grew up but didn't get Menstruation.
Kinzo died.
Shkanon found the riddle, and is the heir of Kinzo fortune.

Later, parents found the riddle too. A lot of people died, and explosion.


Who was Kanon? Did he exist in the real timeline?

Read the three confession chapters, it should help
mangakakalot.com/chapter/umineko_no_naku_koro_ni_chiru_episode_8_twilight_of_the_golden_witch/chapter_24.15

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Delete yourself
Yasu wasn't hurt in the incident where Beatrice II died, it was when Natsuhi pushed the servant and baby off the cliff. You're autistic if you don't know who Kanon is.

Gohdatrice

Waouh, Natsuhi was a real bitch

To be fair, it was enormously crass and insulting of Kinzo to drop a mystery baby on her, especially considering her situation. She certainly snapped in a way that couldn't be taken back, though.

Shanon was never real, she was Yasu's imaginary friend who represented the ideal maid Yasu wanted to be. She later took on her "blessed name" and tried to be like her. Kanon likewise was a persona Yasu made to express her masculine side, and to be Shanon's brother.

Has anyone seen that 10 hr umineko video explaining the rosatrice theory? Is what he saying have strong arguments or is he in damage control?

Beatrice >>> Er*Ka

There's no defense to speak of. It's a one-sided theory that provides motive and attempts logical basis, yet ignores not only a few red truths that clever members of the community have pointed out but also the entirety of Episode 7, claiming it to be just a swarm of red herrings. Pretty cringeworthy and massively disrespectful to Ryukishi's narrative, but the dude at least put in a lot of effort.

>mfw learning the truth

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Guy who made it was a fedora atheist and conspiracy theorist who wanted to feel intellectually superior by pretending to discover a secret nobody else did. He's basically a real life Erika.

People might not like it but Bernkastel did nothing wrong. If you really think about you will realize she is a victim more so than a villain.

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God i want to have sweaty, violent sex with Erika where the entire time we're fighting for dominance

Same but only if Erika is beating the shit out of me the entire time while humiliating me as badly as possible for getting destroyed by a little girl.

How? The entire time she was just butthurt after losing all the time.

The truth is that it was magic.

Hey remember when Jessica acted out of character and killed Kyrie and we never followed up on that ever again

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I want to fuck Lambdadelta!

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WTF IS THE TRUTH!?!

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Battler's parents killed everyone you baka

Illusions to illusions

Based

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>Shkanon grew up
>Who was Kanon?
top kek
Also, just as said, Sayo was hurt by Natsuhi, she was already born when Beatrice II died

EP6 was so bad. It had a few good ideas, but I will never forgive Ryuukishi for interrupting the killing game after (half of) the second twilight AGAIN. It was cool in EP5 when it was a surprise, but here I really wanted to see Battler's game dammit

Basically what and Going by Chiru (as I guess Ryuukishi wanted), obviously Shkanon is the answer. Any other answer just won't fit the narrative, even if you might not like it. I don't understand why anons get so triggered when you point at the obvious Rosa red herrings in the question arcs though, most of EP2 screams Rosa, EP3 had Rosa deeply involved with Beatrice (and Beatrice stopping her own murders after Rosa dies), half of EP4 was Maria's story, where Rosa is prominent, etc

Hey remember when anything that happens outside of detective's view is most likely not real

Ep 6 was hot garbage
>murder mystery aspect might as well not exist anymore
>caring about deaths is hard
>Battler is highly out of character for most of it
>Battler/Beato drama for no reason
>Jessica and George fight scenes are garbage
Only good parts of 6 is the Erika ruse cruise and the tea party
It's garbage and I don't understand why people wouldn't rate it the worst episode

So is it true that Kyrie hates Ange and just sees her as a tool? Also what was the truth behind the beginning of episode 8 where everybody was happy?

Don't know about anons, but I am just tired of seeing Rosatricefags acting superior without any actual reason.
Arguing with them got old many years ago, it's easier to tell them to fuck off.

Rosa was an obvious accomplice in EP2, but the red herring was always Jessica.

>that moment when the grey-eyed Jessica sprite was revealed and we thought she was the culprit

>Jessica
I'm curious on this one, how could she be the culprit in EP2 when she died (without a doubt) so soon?

Well, she was more a red herring for being Beatrice in general, what with them both being blonde busty tsunderes. Jessicatrice vs Shannontrice vs switcharoo Beatrice were the major factions in the theory wars during EP4-5.