In this thread we list down the many girls and guys which Kawahara has managed to kill off in SAO.
>Sachi
>Yuna
>Yuuki
>Charlotte
>Cardinal
>Quinella
>Alice Schuberg
>Eugeo
>Shasta
>Eldrie
>Bercouli
When will this madman stop killing off promising characters?
Terrifying how all of them are among my favorites. Kawahara has absolute shit taste.
You forgot to add:
>Merida
>Aiko
>Diavel
>Ducker, Keita, Sasamaru and Tetsuo
>Godfree
>Pale Rider
>Alice Schuberg
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Nearly killed off Suu from Isolator too.
Do you notice what they have in common?
Yeah, it's all girls that weren't romantically interested in Kirito and other men. Fuck LN writers and their retarded insecurities.
>Yeah, it's all girls that weren't romantically interested in Kirito
Sachi was though. I think it's only because Kawahara was in his edgemeister phase at the time given the original WN did in fact have 50k people trapped in SAO with something absurd like 10k+ people dying altogether and the valets that Kirito and Eugeo had were both actually raped in the original.
Wait what?
She tried to commit suicide.
Hack fraud that tried to push some romantic triangle in a well-established relationship and killed the thing this series needed the most, a male secondary.
>male co-lead/partner
Sent too fast.
Then he pussies out in public and says that Alice isn't interested in Kirito.
Reki needs to make his fucking mid up.
I hope they change some things from the LN because especially since Ordinal Scale, it would be a terrible decision to have more harem hijinks but I have 0 faith in Ono, A1 or Reki to make the right decision on this. Let the harem stuff in the gameverse where the girls at least there stand a chance.
>Eugeo💔
Anyone mind TLing this for me?
I'll clean and typeset it if you do.
I hate that too because it's so obvious wishfulfillment. Having a gf but also having the option to pick one other girl from a harem of 17. You can do this within your daydreams but bringing this into your story is a clear sign of bad writing, like all writing that can't isolate itself from random detached daydream scenes the author comes up with for fun in his free time.
>romantic triangle
Romantic Pentagon*
Eugeo likes Alice Zuberg.
Zuberg reciprocates that.
Alice Synthesis 30 doesn't and she doesn't know Eugeo while Kirito lead her to change her worldview.
Kirito is already committed fully in a relationship and proposed to Asuna making them technically fiances. Both of them explicitly state that there's no-one else in the world that could satisfy them aside from themselves.
Alice Synthesis 30 got shafted hard.
Not romantically interested*
Anyways from the way she carried herself during the War of the Underworld, Alice just felt like she's doing it as her duty. She never felt like someone who was truly romantically interested in anyone.
>Alice Synthesis 30 got shafted hard
Pretty much.
>Loses memories of whole life
>Loses her childhood friends
>Dad denounces her after she returns
>Literally unneeded by the time Asuna comes into the picture
>Doesn't even really remember Selka
>Doesn't get to see her family ever again
>Her last remaining tie to her past is Kirito who cares more about Eugeo than her
>Isn't even the true first ALICE
>Eugeo doesn't actually care about Synthesis 30, just wanted his childhood friend back
>Get upstaged by the other integrity knights during the War of the Underworld as she gets captured by Vector
Give me a scenario where Eugeo, Alice Zuberg and Alice Synthesis 30 all survive the fight against Quinella but still has drastic consequences for the story. I promise to write a 50k word story out of it before the War of the Underworld airs.
Kirito offers to ask Kikuoka for advice and Kikuoka agrees to take Zuberg and put her in the robot just in time. But then the power loss happens and Kirito is incapacitated so Eugeo and S30 work together to lead the human army. The rest goes on as with the LN. I don't really think it's much better than what we got in the end though.
Was hoping something that involves Cardinal a bit more but this should do.
I don't really like the idea of Zuberg being logged out but eh
kawahara wrote the original story for most of the games, hollow fragment included, so depending on your interpretation of events you can count philia on that list
I still don't really get why RATH wants to extract Alice. Because she broke the rule? The other Knights did that too before they got synthetized didn't they?
Stacked up to some of the other characters like Bercouli and especially Quinella, she doesn't seem all that impressive.
Eugeo doesn't merge with the blue rose sword. Kirito uses Incarnation overflow to intervene between Cardinal's execution by Quinella. Cardinal uses Charlotte's remains to transform it into a new sword with just as high of a priority as the Osmanthus Sword.
Eugeo, Alice and Kirito try to defeat the sword golem while Cardinal heals them passively. But seeing them struggle and her uselessness against the sword golem forces her to break the seal of the right eye and confront it with her own sacred arts and Incarnation.
In shock and awe, Quinella tries to intercept and kill Cardina immediately. She incapacitates her but not before making the sword golem expose it's weakness just in time for Alice, Eugeo and Kirito destroy its core.
Eugeo is reminded on why he's doing this in the first place and calls upon Zuberg's memory crystal. And knowing what Eugeo wants to do, Kirito distracts Quinella so they Eugeo, Alice and Cardinal can retreat back to the Great Library again.
In the Library, Cardinal gives up her own body so they don't have to go through the dilemma of destroying Synthesis 30 and diminishing their strength. This is done through overriding Cardinal's own fluctlight "Lizeris" with Alice Zuberg's own memories like what Quinella intended to do. After saying goodbye to Cardinal, her own body transforms to look more like an teen Alice Zuberg. After waking up, she's horrified to understand what happened, Eugeo asks for the other Alice to stay behind and protect her in case Quinella manages to get into the Great Library and they both kind of shift awkwardly.
Back in the Central Cathedral, Quinella is in a stalemate with Kirito with both having done heavy damage to each other with holes in their body. Eugeo arrives but this distracted Kirito which leads to his right Arm getting sliced off.
1/2
Why are Eugeo and Alice always in their integrity knight armor in the gameverse?
In horror and pure rage, Eugeo uses BRS' Release Recollection to freeze Quinella in place and drain her of HP and have Kirito close up his wounds. This manages to kill off Chudelkin for good who also got trapped in the ice.
She tries to break free but the ice tendrils are too strong so she uses her weapon to break through it but gravely wounding herself in the process. In the last ditch effort she tries to log out but Kirito stops her with sonic leap with Eugeo finishing her by bisecting her through Vertical Square
Kirito confesses about everything and how he isn't an Underworld resident or a lost child of Vector but rather a person from the world of gods. Eugeo gets visibly shaken that his whole life has been under a simulation and Kirito feels extremely guilty for deceiving him the whole time.
At the same time the two Alices go and walk back in to see Kirito being supported by Eugeo. He gets a sudden surge of memories back when they were kids.
After this he then uses the console to try to contact Kikuoka. He says that they have to get her to the World End Altar, but he then asks which Alice and would it be possible for Eugeo to go with them too. Kikuoka reluctantly agrees to it and then the power surge happens.
Kirito gets incapacitated and unable to move but because the surge isn't as bad. His memories of the two years he spent in the underworld is sealed.
2/2
Oooh, I like this. Sounds like it'd be fun to write.
Cardinal giving her body up sounds dumb but the rest is fine I suppose.
because sprites cost monies to make
bamco is a small indie studio please understand
>Doing a pose next to each other
Cute
>AU Fanfiction making discussion
Jesus what the fuck is up with SAOfags and fanfiction?
>Oh... I will stand .
>For as many times for you..
Kawahara's writing as always is making us want to slap him and change the ending of every arc
Well not so much for Phantom Bullet.
Quinella could suffer more. While bisecting her is cooler, getting raped to death by a fire clown is more what she deserves. The anime screwed it up by giving her that lame "my world" vision before the end.
So Quinella became good at the end yes?
I'm honestly not sure how to have made her suffer more honestly. Kirito hasn't mastered how to transmute people into trees yet so it couldn't have been that. Perhaps Eugeo encases her in ice and proceed to shatter her into a million pieces.
I'm always up for some Eugeo fix fic.
Not sure how to feel about that. I want her to be redeemed and live but she felt a bit too much like a generic good goddess in that scene who had no similarity to her usual personality.
I wonder if the scene was meant to hint on some future events related to her or if it was just the generic vague hope scene bad ends often have to make the audience feel better.
It was such a weird scene to me. Like, what was its purpose, what was I supposed to feel considering the leadup to this had her killing everyone, nearly killing Kirito, then getting raped to death by a nightmarish fire midget.
I don't really get how those AI afterimages are supposed to work anyway, same with Eugeo and Zuberg. It's basically confirmed (AI)-bodyless souls still have some conscience but it's unclear if it's just for a minute or so during some sort of decaying process or if it's meant to imply that actual souls and some sort of other side exist and that everything with a soul, and therefore fluctlights as well, will continue existing in there in some form or another.
He shoulda stuck with the Web Novel ending for that arc.
I think it's her regaining her lost humanity as she longer have the Cardinal system ingrained in her?
>some sort of other side exist and that everything with a soul,
The way I interpret things, SAO's idea of an afterlife is that people are "alive", even if only a memory of them remains.
Basically, the memory of your dead grandma is just as "alive" as she isn't, and you only really "die" when everyone forgets about you.
Eww she looked way too similar to Asuna,
What's different in the WN?
In the WN, after Death Gun is taken care of, and it's just Kirito and Sinon left in the tournament, Sinon decides to challenge Kirito to a rematch, like their duel earlier in the tournament.
So, they toss another bullet as the signal for their "duel", and as soon as it hits the ground, Kirito charges Sinon with his sword, while Sinon aims down at him.
However, as Kirito comes in close, Sinon puts her Hecate aside, and pulls out her own hidden photon sword, which she uses to block Kirito's first swing.
The recoil causes Kirito's sword to bounce away with greater force than he was expecting, allowing Sinon the opportunity to shoot Kirito at point blank, without him being able to defend.
This unironically sounds better. They both "won" in the LN IIRC which I found incredibly retarded.
Still enjoying all of his series strangely and I think he got better. I have yet to read Isolator though.
Eugeo and Zuberg's deaths are still hurting my heart ;_;
>and you only really "die" when everyone forgets about you.
Oh I see, that reminds me of a certain movie like coco in disney?
It's crazy that you guys unironically like SAO.
You really should.
I wonder if someone will adapt this one day. I love SAO but I wish AW and this would get more love.
Idolbux is too strong unfortunately
I'll be using this then
Key confirmations for the NEW ALICIZATION GAME:
Lycoris is used with its second meaning, referring to the hurricane lily flower, not the greek word "Twilight"
"Faithful to the original work" - Take this with a grain of salt, there already appears to be major differences between this and the main canon
1-Player, Offline, JRPG
Aquria has been confirmed as the developers for the game, the studio behind Hollow Fragment (includes RE:HF and Infinity Moment) and Hollow Realization
>HOLD ME ANONS, AQURIA IS HEREEEE
>AQURIA
HOLY SHIT IT'S THE FUCKING PREQUEL TO HOLLOW REALIZATION
Did I miss something with Quinella? I remember people saying Kirito killed her in a brutal fashion. I was expecting more
the anime skips a lot of shit.
>AQURIA
YEEEEEEEEEEEEESS
How does he kill her in the LN?
Quinella better be saveable in there
Doubt it
Why is Kirito so handsome looking?
They didn't deserve what happened to them lads...
Eiji is shaping up to become Eugeo 2.0
Hopefully not. She shouldn't get a pass just because she's a girl.
The combat looks pretty shit desu
Was hoping they'd figure out a good formula by now
It still has until next year to be fully developed
There's an alternate universe in which Eiji was the one who died instead and was the one who got recreated as an A.I with Kirito losing his memories instead of Asuna.
Holy fuck that sounds interesting to read. Any user talented enough to be able to write this Alternative scenario?
True
It just look like it lacked any impact in the trailer
Yeah I agree with you on that one. I suppose they'll release a CGI Cinematic trailer to build up hype sometime before the War of the Underworld Arc starts with fixes in gameplay and perhaps even looking even more flashy.
Anime only here and I have a question concerning ONLY those who read the LN of Alicization:
Which parts are better? The first part whose adaptation ended now or the upcoming part, the ‘war of Underworld’ sub-arc??
based aquria being wasted on a canon timeline run-through
'its the exact same story you know the beats to by heart, have read multiple times and now also watched, but this time its /BIDEOGAMS/!!'
tip: im so fucking mad
I just bought Hollow Fragment when it was on sale and honestly I have no fucking clue what I'm doing. It feels like a really ambitious game in terms of all the shit they throw at you from the start
Also not sure why there's an option to make a character when you're just Kirito still anyways
It already looks like it's diverting away from canon;
Eugeo got slapped in a field instead of the hall, the wings around the Blue Rose Sword indicate that Eugeo didn't merge with it and what's more is that Kirito is welding a not broken Blue Rose Sword instead of the Red Rose sword, in addition to all of that Alice intervened against their fight against each other. All of which indicating that this is canon divergent game.
doing some different things in the canon timeline isn't the same as a gameverse timeline title set in underworld.
with the trailer advertising it as 'faithfully following the events of the anime series' we can't say any of the artistic license in the settings and cutscenes is anything more than superficial
the last time the games touched canon was the opening cutscene of infinity moment six years ago, and they've been better for it
Will the clown finish off Quinella, or will we get the chance to do it this time?
I don't remember musician girl. Who is she, again?
Yuna. That's actually her SAO avatar.
I prefer Yuuna being an SAO Survivor, she and Eiji are together, and loves to hang out with Asuna and the girls. Also a gifted musician then forms a band.
>change some things from the LN because especially since Ordinal Scale
They already did, Augmas are canon now as is the Kamura Corporation and thus pic related
This could be a BIG possibility.
A lot of people dislike the latter part for any number of reasons (lots of fucking silly story elements, it kinda shafts a lot of the first sub-arc, some of it is pure fan-service, etc), but I feel it's the more "fun" part of Alicization, mostly because it doesn't drag (as much) as the first sub-arc.
Also, it has these two, so of course it's great.
What episode was she featured in?
They are cute
CUTE!
Too bad they named their daughter after the Goddess of Jobbing
>look for news on alc game
>that same old fuck, you know the one, on twitter has collected a lot
>but screencapped, watermarked and reposted, no links to official site or official twitters
>trailer yt link is to a watermarked reupload on their profile, description has no link to original upload
every time, it's like clockwork
i know they're not claiming it as their own but what's so hard about dropping a link to say 'here's the official places where i got this stuff from'
why do people insist on doing this shit, it makes me so unreasonably mad
Her first appearance is from the Ordinal Scale film.
How about Cherry Rock
baka harem joins Kirito to defeat the bad ones...uhg...I hated this, and also I hated Asuna became so weak and so passive
Oh, the movie. I guess I should've paid more attention when I watched it.
Why does she remove her clothes?
I want to be Eugeo to have a bed scene with Kirito...please AQURIA make it happen ;_;
This is the last chance to do it and I will be extremely disappointed if this doesn't happen
YES, because cannonically they slept together so if Eugeo is a playable character since he is the deuteragonist... I think it would make more sense to have a bed scene
Aincrad but Asuna loses her chances in hooking up with Kirito because Argo intervened with his self destructive tendencies after his guild got killed.
To be honest the only possible timeframe anyone could've hooked up with Kirito is during the deterioration of their relationship sometime before or during the events of Floor 25 and before Asuna recommends Lisbeth to Kirito as a blacksmith.
Holy...this animator-kun's room is amazing
why does Kirito have boobs
Drawing issues I guess
uh no that is his elbow
oh you're right
but it really looks like boobs
oh fugg I know who I'm romancing in HF now
Madwoman can actually join Kirito in eating spicy food
Might as well add Red Rider there too
Cherry, Rider, Taker and a bunch of "dead" Duel Avatars are ambiguous cases. Because in some senses they aren't dead due to being fine IRL. But if hundreds of years of life experience are deleted that might as well be the death of a particular personality because the child that's left in the real world is probably a very very different person.
But you can always just add Saffron Blossom to the list, he had a terminal illness 7 years before the story started so she's almost certainly dead IRL as well as in VR
Rest in peace quinella
There’s a reason why Purple Thorn is thoroughly pissed off at KYH.
Her death was certainly more peaceful than Cardinal's:
Yes because "Red Rider" is gone, but there is no indication that the Burst Linker who was Red Rider died in the real world. Thorn is mad because her boyfriend was assassinated and she probably doesn't know his real identity and even if she did he wouldn't remember her. So he's gone from her life forever. But he isn't dead for real as far as we know
The count is up in the hundreds, and that's not even with the Aincrad casualties included.
God she had such a fucking horrid way to end
It looked painful.
More like thousands
If you include the Aincrad, yes. NPC:s and AI:s don't really count.
You forgot:
>XeXeeD
>Usujio Tarako
>Garett
Remember, Death Gun killed two people before Kirito even heard of GGO, and killed one more person while Kirito and Sinon were hiding in a cave as Kirito dealt with Sinon's PTSD and tried to puzzle out Death Gun's secrets.
>Those fucking Genga
Please stop...
Their soul cloned by AW server are dead in the same sense Alice Schuberg is dead.
Potentially good fanfic material. Some user needs to do this
Why do people hate her?
>>For as many times for you..
This line reads a bit weirdly in English, "for you" what?
They have shit taste
Best girl of Alicization.
Did you forget Sugu had screentime?
>Sugu
>Best anything
Might as well have called Asuna best girl of the series
You won't win this debate. Sugu is so far ahead of the others, only Shino could even hit her from behind.
Depends desu, they have very different pros and cons. I'd say the first half is generally considered better, but it depends on who you ask
The first half was mostly carried by Eugeo and his bromance with Kirito, both suffered pretty signifigant cuts in the anime.
The 2nd half is good for the very varied PoV's, the ultraviolence and Kirito becoming the embodiment of suffering.
She's only good for her body and even then Quinella is better.
Nvm pick this it's much better
Seriously, you wanna start posting evidence to prove your arguments by all means do so.
>Punished Bard: Denied of her childhood
What evidence do I need? It's all subjective aside from her having an extremely bland personality.
>Kawahara Casualty
Sounds like a VN/manga title.
The spirits of the dead characters that he killed off get isekai'd into the real world and he has to write alternative endings for each of them to appease them.
>Kirito becoming the embodiment of suffering
Life is never easy for a Kawahara MC
Life is never easy for a little sister in the Kawaharaverse
I wonder if there'll be yet another little sister with an inferiority complex in Isolator.
Inb4 Kawahara makes "Only in your eyes" about a little sister who can see her older sister's VR ghost.
Not gonna lie that would be great
Sauce?
Anyone else watched the SAO Seiyuu live stream?
Had to stop watching because Tsugutsugu kept crying over Eugeo. Too painful.
What a fag
He probably thought of what would happen if Zakki died on him during his performance of the episode
I shouldn't have re read Volume 14.
I told myself I shouldn't and wouldn't cry but I can't stop.
Eugeo stood in a dark corridor unknown to him.
However, he was not alone.
Gripping firmly onto his left hand was Alice, smiling, in a blue dress.
With just a little strength in his grip, Eugeo talked to his female childhood friend.
“This is… all for the best, isn’t it?”
The large ribbon binding Alice’s blonde hair shook and she gave a resolute nod.
“Yes. Let’s leave the rest to those two. I’m sure they will lead this world to how it should be.”
“I guess you’re right. Well… shall we go?”
“Let’s.”
Though he didn’t know when it happened, Eugeo had turned young as well. With his hand strongly holding and held by that of a girl at the same age and height, Eugeo began walking towards a white light visible on the far end of the corridor.
In that moment—
The durability of the human unit assigned the ID, NND7-6361, became zero.
Receiving that signal, the programs controlling the Light Cube Cluster issued a command to the light cube storing the corresponding fluct light.
Accepting the command, the interface diligently reset the linked praseodymium crystal structure.
The hundred and tens of millions of photon qubits stored within left behind one final sparkle and diffused—
The soul named Eugeo that had not even lived a subjective twenty years was eternally deallocated from the small cube.
At nearly the same time.
Another cube, stored quite a distance away from Eugeo’s light cube, performed the same operation.
The fluct light, in possesssion of the memories separated from a soul named Alice Schuberg, produced through irregular methods was also deallocated from its crystal cage.
No one yet knew where the collection of photons that formed the two souls would go.
Can we please not
>the light inside has broken but I still work
where is that quote from, user?
I stole the meme, so I actually have no idea. Maybe some anons can help.
What's your favorite expression?
Poor Kirito, poor fucking Selka
Looking down at me
Kawahara shouldn't be allowed to kill any more cute girls in all of his series.
What did my boy do to deserve this?
Being Batman
Was this from Volume 18? I don't remember this.
Yup. Beginning of V18.
>Parents get killed
>become emotionally distant
>has to battle with his own demons
>become a force of good
>denounces his epithet after he killed someone
>gets bitches like crazy
Kirito is Batman
Kawahara needs to be stopped, who knows what is he planning to do to Kirito in UR...
Torture
I want more KiriAsuna in the anime
Quinella was the only one who deserved it.
I want more KiriYuji in the anime
It's sad that there were so much content that were either rushed or cut.
Kawahara has realized that Kirito is at his best when he's suffering from deep emotional trauma.
I don't trust A1 or Ono to have any of these scenes. But I'm sure there will be a lot of Alice vs Asuna.
Maybe I need to be less jaded.
I will start to hate both of them if that comes to happen...
Pretty much this
I will actually get real angry if that happens
Yes
Kek
Would Quinella have worked better as a tragic monster or the completely evil monster we got?
Tragic monster would be interesting but I don't think Kawahara would've pulled that with Alicization.
Tragic would be better. I would have highlighted that she was an okay person (no saint, of course, but morally ambiguous rather than flat out evil) before becoming admin.
Kawahara seems to want to show her as tragic, for some reason.
He background is pretty ambiguous and Cardinal is not completely unbiased since Bercouli contradicts her story on Quinella. He never outright states if she was always bad or just became bad after attaining Godhood and burning her morality away.
Jesus
Ouch
>Eugeo
Why did he have to die?
Do you guys think Eugeo's death affected Kirito more than the deaths of the Moonlit Black Cats?
>Mfw just watched the SAO Yea Forums sings
Not bad SAOchads
I mean, the moonlit deaths changed him from being a pretty normal autistic guy, so its hard to top it
He will overcome the system for his husbando and everything will be fine! Just watch it happen!
Not quite sure honestly but I know that it caused him the most amount of grief and anguish.
Honestly surprised on how many femanons there are. Like why SAO of all series?
Fujos and Asuna self inserters
What would an OT3 of those 3 dorks be like? And who'd be in the middle?
Kirito is the one in the middle if it's S30, Kirito and S32. Kirito is still the one in the middle if it's regular Eugeo and S30. But if it's Zuberg, Eugeo and Kirito then Eugeo is the one in the middle.
Eugeo is bi for Kirito and Alice Schuberg, you can't convince me otherwise.
what the fuck is this from
official translation?
i wasn't going to try convincing you otherwise
same user, ignore this post. i'm a retard.
thread didnt want to update before i could make this post
I mean it's the truth
I love how Kirito looks ever so slightly uncomfortable in that picture
I would like the OT3 to happen. Perhaps a copout ending with two Kiritos existing. One for Asuna only and the other for Alice and Eugeo.
Star King for Alice and Eugeo while Asuna gets Fleshbag Kirito.
These threads are a goddamn goldmine for SAO writing prompts.
This has always been an incredibly dumb idea: Star King has spent 200 years married to Asuna. He probably has a much stronger attachment to her (or at least AI her) than meatspace Kirito does. Just cause the Star Queen was delet doesn't mean he goes gallivanting off with his childhood friends.
Any version of Kirito is going to be Asuna-sexual. But SK is probably king of that mountain by a landslide
Could always double copout and have Kirito split ala Alice style. Kirito as the childhood friend of Eugeo and Alice while Asuna gets the original Kirito.
Star King is essentially a widower. Him remarrying would not be unreasonable or unusual. The bigger hurdle would be that Alice is not quite 20, and SK is in the vicinity of 200. Which would be quite a gap in age and experience to overcome.
you said that last thread